Rangers banter 6

22 Apr 2024 13:48:01
Here's a stat i've just had a text message sent to me regarding and i'm sure the king of stats on here MPH, will be able to confirm 🤔I'm informed that big dessers is only now 1 goal behind jelavic's best scoring season for us and already scored more than alfie's best scoring season for us 🤔Well done big dessers and i wouldn't have thought that like many because a lot of focus is always placed on the chances he misses and that's probably why his good goalscoring record is overlooked 🤔I realise big cyriel probably should have been over the 30 goals mark but let's give the big fella credit for the goals he has scored for us 👌👏👏.

22 Apr 2024 14:46:06
There is a piece on the BBC website by Tom English:-

If you looked at the bare numbers of Dessers' time with Rangers, you could only conclude that this guy is one of the most prolific strikers the club has had in the last 20 seasons.

Taking out their years in the lower leagues - where goals were a whole lot easier to come by - his tally is only bettered by the single-season totals of Alfredo Morelos, Kenny Miller, Kris Boyd, Nacho Novo and Dado Prso over the last two decades.

With six games left to play - five in the league and the cup final against Celtic - he's already scored more goals than Antonio Colak, Kemar Roofe and Jermain Defoe ever did in one season.

Over the past 20 years, he's outscored Daniel Cousins and Jean-Claude Darcheville, Peter Lovenkrands, Shota Arveladze and Michael Mols and many other Rangers strikers in that timeframe.

Nobody is saying that Dessers is the second coming of Ally McCoist, but he only needs one more to move ahead of the best season Nikica Jelavic ever had at Ibrox.

Jelavic only had one full one, but Dessers has matched him so far. His numbers defy some of the evidence of our own eyes.

22 apr 2024 15:03:48
its in tom english peice today, yes coops one behind jela, nobody could ever compare him to jela, but he's on course for highest rate in 20 years.

22 apr 2024 15:06:52
yes, that's english take, good numbers, but missed multiple chances, winning trophies is what counts, and its the on, y thing that counts, you should be scoring plenty at rangers or celtic imo.

22 Apr 2024 15:14:24
Mph good numbers but he's not got ability to hold the ball up or link the play if we are to become successful dessers can't bd the no1 striker.

22 Apr 2024 15:34:15
I think its important to consider the amount of minutes played between Dessers, Roofe and Colak. If Roofe and Colak played as much minutes as Dessers I'm absolutely confident that they both would easily out score Dessers. Dessers misses too many crucial chances for me and is not a natural finisher.

You're right though if you watch him play, at times you think he's horrific but then you look at his goals scored and it doesn't quite add up.

22 apr 2024 16:00:53
absolutely spot on blackadder,

22 Apr 2024 16:31:04
If if if. Roofe has not managed the same minutes in three seasons as dessers

Colak consistently feigned injury hence we git rid off.

22 Apr 2024 16:54:28
I’m hoping he continues to score for us this season and surpasses the names mentioned above. We would then get a very good fee for him at end of season. I’ll back him while he wears our jersey but we need better.

22 Apr 2024 17:39:51
I’m also sure he’s scored more goals from open play than Shankland.

Certainly not an outstanding centre forward but he can score goals and I think he’s reputation is still hindered from his performances under Beale.

I hope he’s not leading the line week in and week out but I think there’s a space in the squad for him, he’s rarely injured as well.

22 Apr 2024 17:42:40
I agree with storm totally regarding big cyriel dessers, as he's been prominent on here on backing the big fella constantly and that's why i've mentioned storm in particular here. 👍 As i've said before, i back every player that dons our famous rangers jersey whether they're my favourite player or not, because i'll always want them to do superb and i'll back them to the hilt.

I've known supporters who sit near me at ibrox who want dessers to fail because they don't rate the big fella and want him out, i could never be that type of supporter 🤔👎I'm not going to state here that dessers is the best rangers striker we've ever had or that he's superb, but i'll tell you something he's nowhere near as bad as some would have you believing. 🤔

The big fella gives his absolute all and even if he missed a few easy chances within a game, he never hides and comes back to have a go at the next chance, that comes his way 👍He undoubtedly has the correct attitude i would expect/ want a rangers player to have👌He definitely has the mentality required to play for rangers. 👍

Too much i feel is focused on the easy chances undoubtedly he's missed which obscures the good goals and goal tally, he currently has for rangers 👌He has good attributes no doubt and should be given more praise by some of our own supporters who just constantly berate the guy 🤔 Good luck to big cyriel 🙏.

22 Apr 2024 17:58:47
Totally agree Scotty, I however would not be surprised if clement keeps him as backup, remember roofe will probably leave, sima May go, Danilo coming back from long-term injury,

20 goals and 9 assists always available.

22 Apr 2024 18:13:31
Correct Scotty.

22 Apr 2024 18:14:54
If roofe played 😂😂😂😂 all ifs and buts.

Dessers link up play is hands down better than shankland, but shankland's finishing is hands down better than dessers. Dessers ain’t been nearly as bad as some panty wetters think on here.

Am I right in saying only 5 strikers have scored more than 20 goals a season in the last 20/ 25 years? If so it puts to bed the bs that rangers strikers should be scoring bucket loads.
People been crying out for 20 goal striker a year for years. They get one and still not happy as he ain’t good enough 😂.

22 Apr 2024 18:20:29
Am sorry but prolific?
13 goals spl
1 europa league
1 champions league qualifying
1 league Cup
3 in sfa cup
0 v celtic
You would think he was a goal away from 30 with words like prolific getting banded about, being compared to guys that won titles.
Our bread and butter is to win the spl, imo 13 goals is not good enough lots will disagree, fair enough, just remember Alfred morelos was posting around same numbers for 6 year, we won 1 title. Not saying he's hopeless, but his numbers don't defy my eyes.

22 Apr 2024 18:33:13
Spot on, John.
I’d rather have a striker who is fit and helping the team than an if, but, maybe couple of strikers.
Is he what we need long term? No.
But like Storm says he’s all we have.

22 apr 2024 19:52:26
all about winning trophies, nothing else matters.

22 Apr 2024 20:09:03
Dessers may not want to stay as backup but I think he may go if the right offer comes in and danilo comes back ok.

22 Apr 2024 20:53:44
Fgs just wow, guy gets us in a final, stats are gd, and it's a pile on, fecking joke, he's a big likeable fecker that gives everything and 19 goals isn't to shabby, at least the boy plays for his jersey.

22 Apr 2024 13:37:15
The blunt fact is that we lost the initiative in the league race by losing to Ross County and drawing with Dundee, undoing all the good work that was done to close the gap on the other mob. It's still doable but we'd have to win all remaining 5 games and overtake their goal difference. You never know I'm throwing the towel in yet! WATP.

22 Apr 2024 18:29:56
We dropped some stupid points in the last few weeks. the league is still doable, but going to be tough.

22 Apr 2024 12:30:01
Beating one of the 4 teams by a large score like we did against dunfermline years ago and beat them at the tin can and we win the league. that's what i call a miracle. but doable after yesterdays fine performance.

22 Apr 2024 12:41:43
Still think we would requrie a favour mate we miss too many chances to top league on GD imo.

22 Apr 2024 12:48:16
The only favour I see is Killie at this time. sure Derek Mcinnes will be up for that one.

22 apr 2024 13:15:24
one things for certain, we can rule out the last game
st mirren at parkheid, i remeber them beating saints 5 nil way back when hearts threw the league away.

22 Apr 2024 13:27:00
I still had hope after ross county. being in our own hands. After dundee i have zero hope.

22 Apr 2024 13:33:38
That's right Tom. Heard in the run up to the St Mirren game that certain members of the team were going to be downing tools resulting in a 0-5.

22 Apr 2024 13:39:57
Beating them away and killie taking something is our only hope. Plus we still need to win all our other games. Don’t see it happening unfortunately. Shame we threw it away. 😔.

22 Apr 2024 14:23:39
Correct Dado - We need at least 6 good chances a game to score 2 so going by current form doubt if we will outscore them from now till end of season so got to hope we are done favours by other teams - 2 wins from Ross Cty and Mwell (even allowing poor draw at Dundee) would have had us sitting pretty but we have to do things the hard way.

22 Apr 2024 14:32:11
Decee I honestly didn't think it was a fine performance, thought hearts controlled large parts of the game, albeit without looking like they could score. Better than last few, but still far to many mistakes, slack passing. Would have been nice to put on a performance, win was all that mattered.

22 Apr 2024 14:54:14
fine is all i had bb3 . but can be built on.

22 apr 2024 15:08:43
i know fir a fact 75% of that saints team were celtic supporters seeker, i knew most personally.

22 Apr 2024 15:16:07
I think we need them to drop points outwith our game and that's a tough ask.

22 apr 2024 15:23:15
im with bb here, i wasnt paricularky impressed but results good, i'm just sick that we aren't ahead in league.

22 Apr 2024 18:07:19
I think they will drop points. Hearts have beaten them twice in a row and once at bamhead. They are capable of taking a point in that game. Killie away is another opportunity. Neither of these games are going to be easy for them.

Celtic were poor again at the weekend and I don’t think they are a good team, regardless.

It then comes down to us and that’s where I have concerns. Can we win away to them, yes we can but we need to tighten up defensively and take our chances. I fear slipping up in the other games more than playing them away.

I hope yesterday brings back some confidence and we get some momentum to finish this season strongly. Injuries continue to be a worry, however.

22 Apr 2024 11:34:22
@ Tom the commentators also said they think he Silva dived
He thought the hearts player was coming in behind him and he gambled on the dive and made too look very silly
Wolves be lucky to get 5 million for him never mind 20+
I liked him when he came I thought he he would have been a great addition to the squad but he can forget it
We don't need nor want players like this at Glasgow Rangers absolute calamity all he had to do was side foot it into the net.

Butland made 2 outstanding saves yesterday one may have had the hearts player just off side but known our luck if he had scored it would have counted.

Souter had a couple errors in his game yesterday one which could have cost us.

what's the deal now with Goldson will we see him start another game? How will he himself be feeling now known he was officially dropped by the manager can he be man enough to come back into the team and play better if given the chance or will he now be looking for his exit?

Thought cantwell played well yesterday some decent runs and obviously the assists he had
Matondo a few wee good runs also at times

Sterling was solid very good utility player to have at the club.

Dessers couldn't fault 2 goals and should have had an assist for the diving Silva

Summer think we are all in agreement defence will need properly looked at along with midfield for me Lunny needs to go we need an upgrade for moving forward along with all the players previously mentioned across the forum that will be out of contract and the club looking to move a good few on

Think it will be hard to replace Butland in summer if he indeed does go for a big transfer

Said a few times already going to be a massive summer for us made easier if we somehow pull the league out the bag
if not, we'll maybe we shouldn't talk about if nots and think positively that we still have a chance and what a massive difference it will make for the club in a whole if we do it for moving us forward .

We all live in hope 🤞💙.

22 Apr 2024 12:24:22
In my view, Lundstram can leave. Especially with what he is demanding but more on his performances over his Rangers career.
I’d be quite happy with a youthful midfield of Raskin and Diomande.
Need a new striker - fingers crossed not Shankland as he failed his audition again in front of Clement.
He’s yet to impress me against Rangers.
I actually think a few of our players are needing a decent preseason without niggles and they might just do us a turn.

22 Apr 2024 12:27:30
Excellent post stigno. not worried about Butland . If he goes there
are loads of good keepers out there. more concerned about defence and a decent 6 yard box hitman. Dessers did the job yesterday and Ill judge him more against the our rivals
.

22 Apr 2024 12:32:07
But Big Phil has already stated he has 4 good Centre Backs and Goldson was rested which he was going to do against Dundee if Balagon was available but he wasn’t.

22 Apr 2024 13:07:31
Sorry stig but Matondo was absolutely horrible yesterday, worse than a man down. First thing he did was run the ball out of play because he can’t control a ball properly, last thing he did was fall over on the ball looking for a non existent free kick. Everything in between was just as bad. The awful thing is we are left with a choice now between him and Silva on the left side of attack. Out of the two I’d almost have to go for Silva just now as although he is also horrendous he can actually just about control a ball, occasionally pass to others and does work back and help out cover his left back. Matondo doesn’t even do any of those things. We are really struggling in forward areas now if Sima is out again.

22 apr 2024 13:18:57
matondo was poor yesterday, but the midfield hardly ever put the ball into the wide open spaces in front of him, he couldn't get into a groove, shankland was head n shoulders above the rest of his fellow attackers, they weren't on his wavelength, all in all hearts will be very disappointed they didn't do much, rangers were comfortable winners.

22 apr 2024 13:41:57
stig, there isn't even a debate on silva cheating, instantly i knew he had, anyway, we need a seige mentallity now, , every game as many goals as possible, i hope pc gies fir it now, no point in pussyfooting around,

22 Apr 2024 13:54:33
You’re right Tom but Matondo needs to be able to offer more than the occasional run when in open space or his new found ability to cut in on his right and hit a shot. He’s useful as an impact player in the last 20mins or so when teams tire but if he’s going to start then he has to be able to offer more. He doesn’t track back well, he shirks out of 50/ 50’s, he can’t beat a man from a standing start (or is afraid to even try most of the time) . His crossing and passing is poor. Yesterday isn’t the first time he’s basically been like a man down.

22 Apr 2024 14:31:42
Matondo is usually poor let’s be honest he done well when he came on against Hibs and Celtic but that’s about it.

22 apr 2024 15:11:17
he disappointed me yesterday, i expected it to righ5 up his street, granted the midfeild couldn't play to his strengths, but very poor otherwise.

22 Apr 2024 15:11:39
Both wingers don’t produce the goods regularly. Apart from goals against Hibs/ Celtic Matondo either runs the ball out, falls over it or passes it back. As for McAusland don’t see anything in his game worthy of a place.

22 apr 2024 15:23:51
it appears so storm.

22 Apr 2024 15:41:44
Raskin isn't good enough to be first choice.

22 Apr 2024 15:50:17
Id sell matondo to anyone daft enough. A terrible footballer.

22 Apr 2024 18:18:08
Me2 big dado.

22 Apr 2024 06:40:17
It wasn't the best performance.
But after a horrendous couple of weeks the win is all that matters.
Another chance to win a trophy this season.
Something we've all moaned about. Not winning enough domestic trophies.
Yes, the league is the main one but if we aren't winning that we need to be picking up Cups.
Great to see Dessers get a couple.
I was critical of the resigning of Balogun. But to be fair he was solid at the back.
And tactically I thought Clement was back to his best. 🔴⚪️🔵.

22 Apr 2024 06:53:08
TBH i thought it was a good, comfortable performance by us yesterday 🤔From the very start i thought we had much more energy and urgency within our ranks before dropping off a wee bit after 25minutes 🤔We then picked it up again and ran out comfortable winners and big dessers could have scored 5 yesterday. Thought butland,
tav, sterling, balogun, dio, cantwell and dessers all played well yesterday, with cantwell my motm👌🇬🇧.

22 Apr 2024 07:22:24
Great result after the last two calamitous matches - we stifled Hearts but apart from a few Souttar wobbles we looked ok at back - only concern is our wing play which was again lacking - just shows how much Cortes is missed ( direct running with pace) - Matondo again looked caught in headlights on occasion and you could see that PC was annoyed with him not being direct when man was there to take on - no point having blistering pace and not using it! - got to say the boy has never played well when starting - gut feeling is he is an impact sub at most.

Even McCausland looked for easy passes rather than committing his man (but hopefully that's just down to his recent injury and lack of fitness) Its one area where Celtic give us headaches in pacey direct wing play and an area where we need improvement if we want to kill off teams.

Great to have a final to look forward to - but this is time to turn up and show than we CAN beat them👍.

22 Apr 2024 07:55:44
It was a better performance than what we have been delivering in the league, recently, but that wouldn't be hard. Balogun and Dessers were the standouts, with Diomonde playing his part.

Even though we won, the usual suspects do what they always do, and start to get carried away. A cup semi, at Hampden, against a team we regularly, and comfortably beat, is a total different ball game (pardon the pun) to playing them away in the league. Some can't help themselves!

22 Apr 2024 08:03:57
We certainly weren’t at our best but in the breath I never thought we were in danger of not winning.

I hope the squad take a bit of a confidence boost into the final league games and now the final.

22 Apr 2024 08:46:56
I agree with that SWS OBE.
I felt we controlled the match in the most part.
We can now concentrate on 5 cup finals in the league before the Scottish Cup Final.
The League’s a marathon and we’re entering the home straight faze so let’s kick the legs and hope that they blink next.

22 Apr 2024 09:00:22
I never thought we looked like losing because Hearts were terrible, Dado.

22 Apr 2024 09:39:11
I’m sure nobody’s getting carried away Raisetheroofe.
Nobody said winning the league was going to be easy from my recollection.
We never won 56 league titles loosing heart when the going got tough though.

22 Apr 2024 10:01:00
Yeah fair point MPH.

22 Apr 2024 10:14:33
CO2 i did, because the football we were playing was improving up until the start of February and never seen us only talking 2 points out of 9 the three previous league games, but if we can win the last six games we win the treble.

22 Apr 2024 10:41:09
Fair play, My Star, holding your hands up. Oh, and by the way, you weren't the only one.

22 Apr 2024 10:44:32
My star, 6 wins is a big ask. 2 of those wins need to be against a Celtic team we haven't beaten all season.

22 Apr 2024 10:53:11
We also need to improve our GD MyStar or we are relying on others talking more points off Celtic.
Can we do it?
Course we can. Until the table tells us differently.

22 Apr 2024 11:00:25
Yesterday showed me 2 wingers this summer and imo matondo won't do McCausland shows promise but needs to add more.

22 Apr 2024 11:44:56
Every goal we score against them in the league will count double.

22 Apr 2024 12:15:27
Fair enough my star.
I knew you were super confident but couldn’t recall you stating it would be easy which was my point.
I do admire your confidence though.

22 Apr 2024 12:25:59
Good point Seeker.
3-0 win and match their other results and we are Champions 🥳🔴⚪️🔵🥳
The Treble is on!

22 apr 2024 13:21:46
young ross was much much better than he has been recently imo.

22 Apr 2024 06:35:28
Well a good result yesterday after a very disappointing week and that's putting it mildly, let's hope we can kick on now and win all remaining games, I for one don't believe the leagues over just as I stated when beale left the club, will it be difficult? Absolutely but if we can put on a real show and beat them at Celtic park it will throw the cat amongst the pigeons and hopefully they panic, it's very disappointing that we have blew so many points of late, motherwell was bad but Dundee and Ross county was especially frustrating, but in all honesty we didn't deserve to win we were far too negative and lethargic, really need to get behind the team and hope they repay us with a winning run to glory, as big mar said " keep believing ".

22 Apr 2024 00:17:08
Diamonde comes back, we win. simples.

22 Apr 2024 07:53:13
He was playing against them a few weeks past and we never won. How do you explain that?

22 Apr 2024 09:50:55
Sorry I don't believe it's that simple I find it a strange post.

22 Apr 2024 12:20:38
First game against them can be a shock, I just mean we missed him.

22 apr 2024 13:23:09
if only, i felt he was quiet but had nice touches,

22 Apr 2024 09:16:06
Not buying this one, I'm sure he played in the Motherwell. The biggest difference was Balogun playing because he covered Soutter who was woeful again.