Rangers Banter 2

18 Oct 2026 13:53:04
That Dan Neil error gets worse every time you see it.
2-1 up away from home is when all players, but especially our leaders on the park need to be switched on.
Complacency costs points.

18 Oct 2026 13:58:35
Really don't rate him. Surely we have someone else to. challenge him.

18 Oct 2026 14:09:46
Sterling and Ferdandez for the first, then Fernandez and Neil for the second.

Same group of players who cost us dearly at the start of the season.

18 Oct 2026 14:10:15
The desire he showed to win the ball back on that occasion and on another during the game when he gave the ball away needs working on. Simply bending over and putting your hands on your knees is what you would expect to see in the male sauna, not on a football pitch when you should be busting a gut to win the ball back and rectify your mistake.

18 Oct 2026 14:39:45
When did Sterling cost us at the beginning of the season, EHL? 🤔🇬🇧.

18 Oct 2026 14:51:43
Three Cheers - what kind of saunas are you going to?

18 Oct 2026 15:01:19
Raskin also not totally blameless for the 2nd goal.

18 Oct 2026 15:01:45
Sir walter, Dundee United very 1st game.

18 Oct 2026 15:02:23
Bit harsh on Fernandes for the second, when you look back I was thinking where is he going, so understand the criticism but his teammate sold the jersey on that one. 99% Neil, 1% Fernandez for me.

Agree first one, both share blame as neither alert enough to deal with a nothing ball. We done a lot of that in first half but overall we have been good defensively, still some credit in bank imo.

18 Oct 2026 15:19:54
Good point in regards Raskin's contribution to their equaliser. a bit of a hospital pass although Neil needs, to more alert to his surroundings.

18 Oct 2026 15:41:47
Walter first game of season.

18 Oct 2026 15:43:44
Second half we were better but unfortunately the slip by Neil cost us the 3pts.
We have had a decent run of results up until last night v Dundee, but maybe it's time to start Kim at LW, and Dragojevic alongside Raskin, and Kelsy upfront.

18 Oct 2026 16:13:36
Score more goals and these mistakes don't matter - and opposition stop chasing us down. Should be on the front foot.

18 Oct 2026 16:24:38
Second goal-
Fernandez should play the ball forward rather than inviting them on top of us.
Raskin receives the ball and should pass to the keeper rather than Neil who had a player on top of him in a flash.
Ultimately Neil slips and makes a huge mistake to concede the goal but all 3 players sleeping.
Easy to diagnose on hindsight though.

18 Oct 2026 17:32:26
Neil is way overated, should be nowhere near team & fact he is captain makes it worse, he lose ball on numerous occasions or does not find pass & he looks around as if it is someone else's fault, still lack of leadership on field no-one taking responsibility, as for Sterling as good as defender he is, he is certainly not an overlapping FB.


Gassama another who does not offer enough how many times does he take on FB & get past him & put in decent cross.

18 Oct 2026 18:33:57
EHL can you give me your opinions on Kelsey & Naderi. I'm struggling to see why we've invested so much in them.
Naderi's work rate is phenomenal but I don't see the ball control required.
Kelsey hasn't impressed me either but people were raving when we got him.

I'm maybe missing the obvious but can you enlighten me what your knowledgeable perception is.

18 Oct 2026 21:32:10
This seasons scapegoat , Fernandez . Raskin gives an ill advised pass to Neil who makes an arse of passing it back to Pandur but somehow that's Fernandez fault .Last season Tav got the blame for every goal , before that it was Goldson now its Fernandez.

We always risk this when we play out from the back and Fernandez has done it in the past no denying that but this one was down to Neil , nobody else .By the way that doesn't make him a bad player and not worthy of playing for Rangers he just made a mistake like many better players than him have done n the past.

18 Oct 2026 22:20:41
Am losing patience with Fernandez , ball pace and decision making far to slow.

19 Oct 2026 00:25:20
Blue

Think Sterling, now fit, stand out captain.

19 Oct 2026 19:02:33
I think Fernandez is partially culpable for the second as the purpose of Raskin dropping deep isn't to receive a pass.

The way McInnes set the team up, this is a trigger to free Fernandez to take a risk, knowing he has defensive cover. So he's either suppose to drive forward or play the ball forward.

By passing the ball back, he kills the forward momentum of our attack and invites Dundee forward. As a result Neil has to drop deep to get on the ball - which isolates him from the forward players (a real theme from the start of the season) and it encourages the press from Dundee.

If calling him out for his repeated error makes him a scapegoat, so be it.

19 Oct 2026 19:19:24
The goal was Neils fault , all he had to do was play it back to Pandur and he couldn't do it . that's his fault . There is no way it was Fernandez fault unless you're doing the old Kevin Bacon thing and tracing every goal we lose back to the last time Fernandez touches the ball .Killies goal was Fernandez fault for going up for the corner , Falkirks goal was Fernandez fault for not marking Nedeljkovic tight enough, Hibs penalty was Fernandez fault for not stopping Dragojevic giving away a stupid foul and the second was Fernandez fault for not anticipating the deflection off Rommens and covering the post to clear it , although to be fair Dundee Utds goal was genuinely Fernandez fault .

19 Oct 2026 21:29:21
So much for a sensible debate.

20 Oct 2026 12:29:51
The second goal can happen to any player at any time , Neil has been playing well.

18 Oct 2026 11:57:22
Hi,

Thought Rangers were a bit slow trying to go forward in the first half, and Naderi was isolated up front, Dundee are a club on the up.

The 2nd half we looked a lot better and went at them quicker and we should have won the game.

We gave away two poor goals, but scored two great goals, Raskin showed again why we need him to stay.

18 Oct 2026 13:19:24
I agree with going forward part, thought the 3 alongside Nadieri were far too deep the whole half. I also thought Dundee front 2 gave our CHs a torrid time, they did not handle it well. We also lacked intensity with Dundee getting first contact and second balls all half.

But the soft goals, like you say, are what cost us points. We have not been doing that in recent games so I am hoping it's a blip rather than a pattern emerging. Was disappointing because we scored a couple of belters to put us in a position to win after a terrible first half.

We ended a 7 match winning run, all about how we react to that and get on a new winning run.

18 Oct 2026 13:27:09
Last year or that we would of lost that game that was a hard point to win we are doing well but we can't depend on that lot dropping points we can clearly do well.

18 Oct 2026 14:03:04
After we went in front complacency crept in thinking game was won that when your captain needs to be driving his team on yes you can hear the bottle merchants cry allready we need to move on and learn from this.

18 Oct 2026 10:34:01
Key is not to get over excited with good wins, and no to go overboard with doom and gloom with a draw or a loss! This squad very patchy i think other than the Old Firm games.

WeVe struggled to put full 90 mins performance. Kim su on his day looks class act. got to remember he's only 20! If we had a 20 year old out of the academy like him, we'd be raving about him.

18 Oct 2026 12:53:09
100% mate. Well said. We as a fanbase are guilty of both my self included. Long season and our rivals aren't going to win every single game between now and the next old firm. Calm heads prevail.

18 Oct 2026 13:55:35
You could be right, Wishy.
But so far they have won 7 from 8.
We've dropped points in Dundee twice.
And lost at home to a terrible Hibs side.
Last night was all about keeping the pressure on them and we failed in that respect.

18 Oct 2026 14:59:06
We failed to put the game to bed should have started with Naderi and Kelsy as previous games. don't know what DMc was thinking with that line up.

18 Oct 2026 15:40:16
Dundee United and Hibs feels like a completely different team to the one we have now mate so many more players have came in so hard to judge them on that. Yesterday was the first real slip since the window closed.

We need to make sure we bounce back right away and go on another run. We must win this league cup no excuses they need to prove that they have the bottle to win when it matters most.

18 Oct 2026 18:13:49
Gary Stevens, some on here were actually gloating that they forecast the team that was chosen, obviously with no thought to the dangers of changing a winning side.

18 Oct 2026 09:56:09
Time to digest. I thought that was a real tough place to go. I am not saying its ok to drop points but I thought for a long spell in the second half we played some great stuff. I think Bounanni could be a real game changer for us this season.
My second take away was that if we are going to play Bounanni it may be better to have a full back with a better delivery into the box , several times he slid Sterling in and his delivery is possibly the worst I have ever seen.


I think Dujon has had a good start to the season but his performance last night had me remembering why I would have been happy for him to leave in the summer.

18 Oct 2026 10:25:49
Thought Bouanani was good but so one footed. If we play him like that then yes we need a better than Sterling overlapping. Sterling much better defensively but not going forward.

18 Oct 2026 13:33:06
Kaiser, the late great davie Cooper was so one footed, but what a foot it was 👌🇬🇧.

18 Oct 2026 13:51:45
And that's also why Cooper played on the left. And he was a genius. Point was if playing him on the right we need a better player overlapping.

18 Oct 2026 14:44:19
Kaiser, for the last time maybe, Sterling is the best right back in Scottish football 🤔🇬🇧.

18 Oct 2026 19:15:20
Defensively yes but not in an attacking sense he's not.

19 Oct 2026 08:18:54
wouldnt even say defensively, if he is the best in Scotland then the rest are really poor.

who would you prefer, Sterling in his prime or Tav in his prime, i know my answer and even Tav in his prime took it in the neck.

18 Oct 2026 09:55:42
This won't be popular with everyone on here but guys hand on heart it's my honest opinion. 🤔 What does bojan Miovski need to do to get a chance here. 🤔 Naderi absolutely isn't a loan no.9 target man but i think Kelsy is. 🤔

Naderi was lost in that sole role last night big time for me and i'm not picking on him and blaming him completely, as not many especially in the first half were on it last night. 🤔 Instead of subbing bouanani, minsu, i would have left those 2 on as they were easily our most creative players in the second half. 🤔

I would have taken Gassama and Naderi off and put Kelsy and Miovski on and with minsu creating with Bouanani and Miovski playing off Kelsy i honestly believe we would have got the 3 points. 🤔 Anything that Miovski would have had to feed off would have been put away with ease as he's a natural finisher. 👌

I hope he gets a club because it isn't fair on him and would be a very good signing for another club as he's only getting bit part minutes here and there at Rangers and his talent is being wasted sitting on the bench 🤔.

18 Oct 2026 10:05:12
I agree with most SWS. I said last night that the last 15-20 mins really should have been Miovski's time. If we are not putting him on then I am not sure the point of even having him in the squad.

18 Oct 2026 10:26:03
I don't think its necessarily that Naderi can't play the lone striker role, I actually think he's very good at it.

Unfortunately his strengths are in pressing and running the channels and given how Dundee set up last night there was limit opportunity to do either.

Last night, like the second half against Killie we were screaming out for Shankland or Chermiti- not Miovski who I think would have been even more ineffective than Naderi.

18 Oct 2026 10:36:53
Have never seen what a few seem to see in Miovski and the claim he's a natural finisher. For me a panic buy at the end of a poor window and his lack of game time suggest that's exactly what he is. I expect one we'll actively look to move on in January.

18 Oct 2026 10:59:10
EHL, for me Naderi isn't a target man mate 🤔Cooper 11 legend don't agree my friend but that's what this site is all about my friend, opinions 🤔When i give my own opinion i always give a reason why i have that opinion 🤔Miovski was no panic buy for me and let's be honest, the vast majority were delighted when we signed him absolutely no doubt about that 🤔 He's absolutely a natural finisher absolutely no doubt whatsoever about that, so i can't see what you see to think he's not a natural finisher 🤔The 2 most natural finishers at Rangers are without a doubt shankland and Miovski and i won't be convinced anything different 🤔🇬🇧.

18 Oct 2026 11:00:59
I would agree with you SWS, I am a Naderi fan but I woud have brought on Miovski.
The ball was in and around the box for me enough that he may have been on the end of one.
His subs always bewilder me for me not the right personnel coming off.

If it not working change it. Neil off, Naderi off.
I might have tweaked the formation went to a back 3.

18 Oct 2026 12:38:06
I disagree EHL and here's why my friend 🤔If McInnes had taken off Naderi and Gassama and put kelsy and Miovski on and with the creativity of minsu and bouanani especially in the second half and with Miovski having kelsy to play off, i believe we'd be down the road with the 3 points 🤔Miovski with any chance falling his way in the box would finish most times as he's a natural finisher for me 👌🇬🇧.

18 Oct 2026 13:07:19
I'm a big fan of Naderi but I don't think lumping high balls up to him suits his game and though, as usual , he worked his socks off last , he couldn't get onto the ball enough on the ground. Its hindsight I know but I think McInnes got the team wrong last night , he said himself he went with the system that we played at Aberdeen and if we are honest we weren't very good that day.

His subs and lack of subs baffled me , maybe Bouanani couldn't last the full 90 mins but surely the awful Gassama should have been off before Minsu .Sticking Miovski on late for a tiring Naderi alongside Kelsy might have made a difference and Neil was having a poor game so why no Dragojevic or Chukwuani , maybe even going to a three before they scored? He seems reluctant to use subs at times.

18 Oct 2026 12:19:18
Walter prove he is worth more than four minutes against them and five minutes last week

He has made it plain to Rangers he wants out. I'm very surprised your sources don't tell u.

18 Oct 2026 17:31:13
Miovski a natural finisher, since when? He has had one good spell in his career that's it.

18 Oct 2026 17:52:12
He's absolutely a natural finisher for me you can see when he's inside the box and scores that he's a natural very easy to see bbj 👀.

18 Oct 2026 18:51:01
He wants out because John 👂.

18 Oct 2026 09:37:35
I don't understand why Del changed our set up. I always believed that you don't change a winning team. The ball would not stick up to top and kept coming back. We couldn't get Naderi in the game and I think he is better with a partner up there with him.

Tinkering has cost us before and it cost us last night. Strange set up choice. We blew a big chance to put pressure on them.

18 Oct 2026 13:11:01
I know it was early in the season but weird team selections cost us 5 points in the first 2 games . He seemed to have found a formula that was working and he decides to change it and it cost us another 2 points. He needs to stop overthinking it and back the teams ability to beat the rest of the teams in the league.

18 Oct 2026 09:20:47
As much as we can't win every game , did we just turn up thinking it was a stroll in the park, or are we falling into the same mind set as last few years , them across the city are bad and are at top league and will only get better, we should be taking this opportunity to put the pressure on , I still believe, but some players need dropped and need to fight to the jersey once again .🇬🇧.