21 Nov 2025 18:29:59
Here's a question to one and all fellow bears 🤔With the transfer fees in this day and age, how much do you reckon it would be to buy richard gough, going on how good a centre half he was 🤔.

21 Nov 2025 19:24:44
Wattie, silly question really mate, it e we old depend on how long he had to run at the club he was being bought from, like trying to buy him from Barcelona or hearts?, I will take a guess, if we tried to buy him out of his last 12 month at say Leeds he would cost maybe 8 or 10 million,

21 Nov 2025 19:56:46
It would depend ( as above )

21 Nov 2025 20:37:07
Gough on a long contract would cost around 50/60m sws, but saying that Madrid only paid around 55m for Huijsen and i know what one I'd rather have if it was a choice.

21 Nov 2025 20:47:24
For me the problem is his age. I reckon £10 might do it.

21 Nov 2025 22:41:41
John that made me chuckle. So dry.

Coops - Hold him up against Van Dyk for example. Both in their prime. Gough blows him out the water.

What's VD birth? 40m or so?

Loved Gough as a player and person. Epitome of a Rangers Captain.

21 Nov 2025 23:26:25
Van Dijk is a step up from Gough, loved Gough but that's going a bit far me.

22 Nov 2025 07:21:15
Depends if we were buying or selling him 😂.

22 Nov 2025 09:44:09
Lol well played John 👏.

21 Nov 2025 05:10:48
I'll kick this off first by stating i've always supported my country Scotland all through my life and i'm immensely proud to be scottish. I always want our Scotland national team to beat anyone and do well in every game they play. 👍

To get to my point i do believe the vast majority of us and Rangers supporters in general all support Scotland and want them to do well but i also get vibes that a minority of Rangers supporters don't care for Scotland and whether they do well or not and of course their entitled to their opinions but personally, i can't get my head around it. 🤔

I don't like the SFA one iota or a lot of the nuggets running the spfl etc but it doesn't and imo shouldn't stop anyone that's Scottish supporting their country. 🤔

For the Scotland supporters who wrongly boo Rangers players or any other player for that matter, playing for our national team shouldn't put anyone off supporting the team and should rise above those sort of people!

21 Nov 2025 08:12:33
whether people support as enthusiastically as you doesn't mean they don't hope they do well.

21 Nov 2025 09:36:12
Always have always will support Scotland. Soon as the boys pull the jersey on their playing for their country not their club. The boo brigade aka Celtic and aberdeen fans booing should be ousted by other supporters close by. Every1 is allowed their opinion but if your going to a national game and booing what's the point in going.

21 Nov 2025 09:53:52
Walter what about our lot that booed jimmy Johnstone dalglis mcgrain hay
Sadly all fan groups do it.

21 Nov 2025 12:52:59
Mainly halfwits that can't discern an international player playing for his country from his club team.

21 Nov 2025 13:53:09
Possibly the fact that back in the day you had 3, 4, 5 Rangers players in the Scottish team, now maybe? 1, and a sub if your lucky.

21 Nov 2025 18:09:20
Good post coops and fork.

Bar that's not Scotlands fault we don't have many good enough players to get into squad.


I don't know how true it is but apparently the most represented club fans that go to games is Rangers fans reed it the other day.

21 Nov 2025 19:02:17
Bar72, reading various posts about plenty of Rangers players playing for Scotland in the past made me think. I've posted this elsewhere, but as a wee exercise I took matches v England as a guide in the 20 years since my first Wembley in 1967 up until 1986. In that time there were 8 years when no Rangers player was selected, 5 years when one was selected (usually Greig or Forsyth), 4 years when 2 were picked and just 3 years (1968, 69 and 70) where 3 were selected.

It was never higher than that. In 17 of those games the mhankies had more players chosen than us. It's not a comprehensive study by any means, but this cameo seems to suggest a different outlook. Food for thought.

19 Nov 2025 02:28:05
Did anyone here see pele play in their youth? Genuinely
Seen him
As we seen Ronaldo and Messi now?

Played in Brazil and America.

Goals record is very questionable as wasn't on camera and a lot of dodgy
Stuff back then esp in South America.

I've seen clips and I don't get it

I just don't get it woth him.

19 Nov 2025 07:52:26
Hard to compare eras. Football was completely different. Could Ronaldo and Messi have played like that on those pitches with tackety boots and old balls against cloggers? Just appreciate what they are in their own time.

19 Nov 2025 08:04:21
What's to get?
Won World Cup 3 times.
12 goals scored in Finals.

19 Nov 2025 08:15:24
Was 7 when he retired in 1974 at 33, didn't play in Munich that year, seen him in clips playing for the Cosmos up to 77 and even had the strip.

{Ed001's Note - my cousin played against and with him in the States.}

19 Nov 2025 09:01:18
What a story for your cousin to tell the Grandkids, sharing a pitch with Pele, Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - these days the kids probably wouldn't be impressed as he has no social media presence!}

19 Nov 2025 11:14:12
Different days, defenders and half backs were killing machines! Crap pitches, heavy boots and laced up football. remember him being targeted in '66, was shameful.
However from old clips, I might have Di Stefano in front of him, the man could literally do anything on the pitch, and did!

19 Nov 2025 11:46:39
Is this post for real?

19 Nov 2025 12:20:13
Saw him live and guy was different class. Defenders kicking him all over the pitch, heavy pitches, lace up bladder ball that weighed heavier as game went on. Watch best team ever 1970 Brazil and Pele was best player in that team.

19 Nov 2025 12:25:08
Very true, Ed.

19 Nov 2025 14:24:42
Cheers lads, shanks I was he that good then mate aye?
I've just never seen him doing anything much impressive like u do with maradona cruyff even as someone said do stefano has some pressure clips.

I don't know if pele was your Brazilian type player with flair and skill or just a total goal machine.

I know his number of pals have been questioned

Scottw why is it not for real?

I think it's a fair question.

I've not seen much of the guy so I can't say he's what others say he is for certain.

19 Nov 2025 16:03:21
Search Pele waiting for Carlos Alberto in the 1970 WC, he doesn't even look he just knows, also have a look at jarzinho and revilino.

19 Nov 2025 17:04:46
Stevie check out his goal in 1958 World Cup Final, think he was 16 then. Big difference for me was that defenders in his time were assasins rather kick player than ball.

19 Nov 2025 17:48:06
I'll need to have a wee
Look at
More
Of his clips.

Just the ones we normally
See I'm
Not overly impressed tbh.

Not compared
To Ronaldo Messi maradona Cruyff zidane.

20 Nov 2025 02:05:43
I saw him play at Hampden in 1966 on a Saturday night. It was a 1-1 draw and Billy Bremner brutally kicked the s*it out of Pele. The guy also suffered during the World Cup in England when he was mercilessly targeted (as was Portugal's Eusebio) by assassins posing as defenders.
At Hampden, aged 15, I was with the snappers behind the goals at the Rangers end as I got in with my camera and a pass card from the Bureau of Photographers which I had sent away for after seeing it in a newspaper ad!
As several others have said, it was a different game then, an often brutal affair played with heavy boots, heavy balls and heavy pitches.

Most 21st century ball players wouldn't have lasted a full game, and that's not a criticism, merely an opinion. But Pele did, and in his era (look at other World Cups) he was by a clear distance the most outstanding player.

20 Nov 2025 02:20:21
Thornton. Thanks very much for that reply mate apreciate it.

20 Nov 2025 09:52:59
Thornton was at that game as well and remember one of Brazils coaches going round the track before the game chucking oranges into the crowd.

20 Nov 2025 15:40:23
Thornton was at that game. Bremner gave him a hard time.

20 Nov 2025 20:17:51
Stevie when he died I watched some of his clips and it was like watching a mix of Messi Ronaldo and R9 an absolute phenomenon.

20 Nov 2025 20:52:32
Wishy cheers mate

It was a genuine honest question, some folk just can't help answer people cheekily on here mate.