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07 Mar 2026 21:00:02
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07 Mar 2026 16:17:43
A question for the guys who didn't see the stv news last night. When was the last season one of the Old Firm didn't win a trophy?
07 Mar 2026 17:31:00
1871. 🤔😉😇
07 Mar 2026 19:06:40
1954-55 season. I'm sure I heard it on the radio during the week, but I may have picked it up wrong.
07 Mar 2026 19:13:03
3 times it happened, apparently: 1894-95, 1954-55, as Storm says, and the other is early 50s, I think. 👍
07 Mar 2026 19:38:04
It's unbelievable it's been that long. I read that too, Fork.
07 Mar 2026 19:48:15
Does that show how poor others are that it doesn't happen often?
07 Mar 2026 20:46:24
😂😂 Brilliant Fork.
07 Mar 2026 20:57:21
Tbh, winner tomorrow wins the cup given who's left in it.
07 Mar 2026 12:18:21
Graeme Souness apparently appearing on Off the Ball shortly. Much as Stuart Cosgrove bores to death haivering on, I will give this a listen.
07 Mar 2026 10:10:14
Curious for debate here, what's everyone's thoughts on this mentality excuse that seems to get thrown about all the time. I know some people feel strongly that it's an issue in the team but personally I think it's a lazy excuse to throw out and only seems to occur when we have a bad run of form.
Personally I don't believe the mentality stuff, I don't think it's an issue. If it were we wouldn't be in a title race right now and wouldn't have beaten Hearts or Celtic at parkhead. To me it just seems to be an excuse we throw at our team whenever they don't win a few games.
I know some will disagree strongly with this as well but I think we as fans need to change their attitude towards the team when it's in adversity. Sunday the stadium was rocking and rightly so but when they got their first, it went flat and there was no encouragement from the stands just criticism and moaning which I don't think helps at all.
Folks please feel free to fire away!
07 Mar 2026 10:34:29
Winning culture is something that has not been at Rangers in over a decade.
Mental fragilities creep in when, as you say, the atmosphere flattens, and the nervous energy from the fans visibly affects the players on the field.
When we are winning comfortably, the atmosphere remains comfortable, but during tight matches it is a very negative, uncomfortable atmosphere.
07 Mar 2026 11:34:53
I don't know how it can't be a mentality issue, although not in terms of we have a block and can't win the league. It's more that we're comfortable and just switch off, then application drops.
I think too many are happy to coast here. Look at our recent results: 2-0 up at half time against Celtic, and coasting. Players believed the game was over, and it was written all over the performance. The Motherwell game was the same. Their numbers were reduced, and we assumed the game was over, and plenty more of the same all season.
I agree there are games we've not been at the races, but too many times we've been ahead and dropped stupid points because players have assumed the game is over. For me, that has mentality written all over it.
I wonder if it's been managers who don't get the pressure and need to win every single game, then that bleeds into players. We also sign a lot of players from clubs who don't play with that added pressure, and it's obvious people crumble at first.
07 Mar 2026 11:41:47
If anyone is bored, read up on the bell curve and the role of the minority in driving a winning mentality.
The short summary is that you only need a small number of leaders to set the standards, create the culture and provide the drive.
If you have these, then the majority raise their performance.
If you don't, the opposite happens, and you become the metaphorical rudderless ship.
For too long, we've lacked any real on-field leadership, and it shows, year after year.
It's why I believe that Rohl has started to get so many ex-players more involved in and around the current squad.
07 Mar 2026 11:46:17
Ehl, you are 100% correct. That is the very reason I am willing to overlook this season in the expectation that this will be addressed in the off-season.
07 Mar 2026 13:48:54
So, fans can have a negative, nervous mentality, but u don't believe players can? Fan atmosphere can have an effect, but as Ehl says, the real difference comes from having one or two real leaders who can help stir others. Our supposed leadership group has been weak for years, crumbling when they come under pressure.
07 Mar 2026 15:05:53
Completely agree with that Ehl.
07 Mar 2026 16:09:01
Rangers FC have no leaders on the park.
07 Mar 2026 17:46:16
Definitely, Ehl. No leaders in the squad, and it has been the case for a while.
07 Mar 2026 17:48:13
Correct, John.
07 Mar 2026 19:08:19
We haven't had any leaders for a long time, and I don't know how anyone can say it's not a mentality thing, it's that obvious.
07 Mar 2026 20:08:06
Sad to say, leadership is one quality we have lacked for around a decade. Ehl is spot on. Only 3 or 4 leaders are needed, so not too many to recruit in the summer.
06 Mar 2026 18:57:00
Unfortunately i will be unable to watch the match on Sunday due to travelling to the far north to begin our domestic season in the 4th round of the Norwegian cup.
Enjoy friends but most importantly stay safe.
06 Mar 2026 20:36:47
Best of luck Aph. 👍
06 Mar 2026 21:02:11
Thank you, my friend.
06 Mar 2026 23:52:28
Safe journey, Aph.
07 Mar 2026 09:13:57
Thanks Flb, Tromso is a beautiful calming part of the world.
07 Mar 2026 09:21:56
Have a good time, Aph, and hopefully both results go our way.
07 Mar 2026 09:27:55
Thanks Me2, results are what truly matters, and we need to throw everything at supporting the team.
07 Mar 2026 10:26:18
Spent a lot of time in Tromso myself, aphelion
06 Mar 2026 11:30:23
I'd like to say I am looking forward to Sunday, but I'd be lying. I can actually see this going to penalties, so good luck guessing the winner.
Look, whether some like it or not, if we go out to them, especially after last weekend, and after them overtaking us in the league, then Ibrox is going to be 9ne hotbed of toxicity. We need to beat them!
Would I rather have taken 3 points against them last Sunday at the expense of a cup defeat? Yes! I would rather we won both, but as our league form is up and down like a cheap brass's knickers, the cup is our last real chance of silverware this season.
If we end up trophyless, again, then real questions need asked.
Again, this is going to hurt the more precious on here. This would be DR's record this season, if we get beat on Sunday.
League - Failure after getting back into contention.
LC - knocked out by our biggest rivals, so another failure.
SC - if we don't beat them, then knocked out again by our biggest rivals, and another failure.
Europe - An absolute failure with no positives.
We can only blame RM for so long!
For a team who have spent considerably more than any team in the league, four straight failures, from 4 competition, is not, and never will be, acceptable at Glasgow Rangers.
Over to you DR to prove me wrong.
I await the incoming rage! 🤣🤣.
06 Mar 2026 12:35:37
Yes, Ss spent more than anyone else, but remember who was spending it and on whom. Yes, we can't blame Rm forever, but it is still basically his squad, one that resulted in not only him getting the sack, but all those responsible. For all Celtic have been poor, they are still mostly a squad of champions, while we downgraded from being runners-up, and you're expecting success? Making some of them look like professional footballers, let alone challengers, has been an incredible achievement.
He still also has the best record since his arrival, despite that. Have there been mistakes? Undoubtedly, but they were bound to happen. We only lost the final because of disgraceful decisions, and we are still in a position to win the double, so maybe let that sunshine break through the clouds. ☁️ 🌥️ ☀️ 🌞
06 Mar 2026 12:36:51
Sunshine, you're on the button.
06 Mar 2026 12:45:03
Rohl is still inexperienced. All he will do is learn from his experiences. He's building something that will never be built in 4/5 months. Patience is the key part, but, as we all know, Rangers fans have very little of that.
06 Mar 2026 12:49:15
I would love to say you are right, Kaiser, but you are not!
Out of the 11 starters on Sunday, only 3 of them were Rm signings. Explain that? Also, out of those 3 Rm signings, 2 of them were our best players on the day (Chermiti & Moore). Again, explain that?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
06 Mar 2026 12:54:00
Perhaps Celtic having their own debacle mid-season, allowing us back into the race, has created a false impression that we're suddenly better than we are. Rather than just seeing the gradual progress, suddenly there is an expectation based on position, instead of where we really, realistically are.
Is it fair to say a team that was struggling between 8-10th should be winning trophies? Just a slightly different take on things.
06 Mar 2026 12:56:08
I agree, Mystar. However, you know Ibrox and how quickly things can change.
After strong starts for Gio, Beale & Clement, it didn't take long for things to change. Add to that that Gio won a SC, and took us to a European final, while Clement won us the LC.
Then Rohl is under severe pressure if he wins nada.
Yes, Kaiser, we could still win a double. If we do that, I will hold my hands up as usual. However, I don't think I will need to.
06 Mar 2026 13:00:45
And the reason why we will never win more than one trophy in a row is that attitude. Everyone and every team has failures, but the best learn from those and improve.
Fans, and I include the last board in this, want instant success, so when we have failed every season we change the manager, who wants to change the players, and we go back to square one again.
Yes, it is unacceptable for Rangers not to win any trophies in a season, but we have won only 3 major trophies since the financial crash in 2012.
Perhaps a change of strategy is needed, as that one patently hasn't worked. So perhaps now is the time we change the tune and give a manager a bit more time to build that squad and team, however this season ends.
He revitalised our worst start ever season to get us into a position of being serious contenders in a really short time period, and given us stability. So perhaps he warrants time to build a side during a summer transfer window, and making a judgment based on this season's final position would be premature, imo.
06 Mar 2026 13:18:20
Angus, well worded, and I agree entirely with that.
Danny Rohl has done a great job changing results so far this season, but culture takes longer to change.
Us fans rightly demand trophies, but unfortunately the culture within is perennial failure.
Steven Gerrard took 3 years to win 1 trophy, and yet those who so desperately wanted his return cannot give Danny Rohl more than half a season before calling for his head.
06 Mar 2026 13:22:05
I will probably reserve my judgement to the end of the season. Still a few issues. Rohl, I feel, has made mistakes tactically and in personnel (in my opinion). If he learns from them, great.
At present, the league and cup are still possible.
06 Mar 2026 13:43:19
Who's "calling for his head"?
06 Mar 2026 13:57:07
For me, any season where Rangers don't win a trophy is classed as a failure.
No matter who is in charge, and when they took over.
The issue is, I like to take a look at the season as a whole at the end.
Was there improvement in the squad?
Have we managed to move on those continually underperforming?
Have we replaced those who are always injured?
Were there positives throughout the season?
Will we learn from the negatives?
For me, what's gone before with other managers is irrelevant, as they have all worked under different constraints.
06 Mar 2026 14:07:56
It was still the squad put together by Martin and Co, though, Sunshine, made up of his dozen or so players and those from before him he wanted to keep. And, as u point out, most of his signings weren't good enough to make the team. That's my point. Gio Clement and even Beale never took over teams languishing in the bottom half of the table either, so their strong starts came from far better positions. When RM and Co left, please tell me honestly, did u think we should expect to win something this season?
Will he be like them next season? Who can tell. I do have my doubts if we'll win, but you can only judge him on what he's done so far, and you have to take into account what he has to work with.
Also, if you're in a race and the favourite stumbles, it might increase your chances but doesn't mean you're able to run faster. Celtic had a mid season collapse, but that didn't mean Rangers players suddenly became better. He's doing the best with what we have, and there were bound to be mistakes along the way, unfortunately. I'm not one who says we should just keep managers because it's not good to keep sacking, but let's hope he can still pull something off this season and judge him properly next season.
06 Mar 2026 14:26:39
If I could ask it another way. When Martin left and we were in a mess, what would your expectations have been for any manager for the rest of the season, whether Gerrard, Muscat or whoever? I don't remember many other than maybe Mystar, with his mindless optimism, believing all are great (sorry mate 😜), saying yes the league or cups are ours now.
06 Mar 2026 15:19:26
Sorry, MPH, if I'm misreading this. I agree the season would be a failure, but are you saying the manager is too, regardless of when he came in and what went before? I think he was given a sow's ear and managed to make it get close enough to a silk purse that now some people think he'd be a failure if he doesn't do it, forgetting, at the end of the day, it's still a sow's ear.
06 Mar 2026 15:25:28
You are spot on, Kaiser, and expectations, like the team, were in the gutter.
However, a mixture of DR getting us back on track and the Tims experiencing their own horror show got us back into contention. Regardless of where we were, DR has had us in a position to win every domestic trophy.
To then finish up with nothing will be a sorer one to take than winning nothing if we were never in contention. That's all I'm saying!
Not once have I called for DR's "head"! I can't think of any of the regulars on here calling for his "head"?!
06 Mar 2026 15:39:03
Sunshine, there were double-figure posts in recent weeks of posters stating they don't believe Danny Rohl to be the right man.
Not a direct statement calling for him to be sacked, but it is not difficult to come to that conclusion based on that one phrase.
06 Mar 2026 15:57:09
No, not the manager, Kaiser.
More the club.
But you still have to review Rohl's role in the season.
Has the team performed better?
Are we tactically better?
Do we feel confident going into next season under Rohl, with a transfer window to revamp the squad further?
Right now, it's a yes from me. But that can all change over the next 9 games.
06 Mar 2026 16:21:35
Sunshine, you are right. We would all be severely disappointed if we ended up with nothing after getting this close. There are calls for his head, not many, but, as you say, people are starting to doubt him for the same reasons other managers started to lose support.
I think you have been unsure as to whether Rohl had the experience for the job, and I can understand that given his lack of manager roles.
Has, or would, your opinion change if a) he were to win a trophy, or b) he keeps us in the race till the end?
Would you now say his getting us this far deserves a summer transfer window and a pre-season to take us further forward?
06 Mar 2026 16:55:59
Cheers, Mph. I get what you're saying. Ss thinks it's a good discussion, and can see both sides. Maybe it's the sunshine outside making me more positive than the sunshine here. 😂🌞
06 Mar 2026 18:30:19
Angus, he isn't calling for his head, mate. He's rightly pointing out that the season will be disastrous if we finish with nothing. He's bang on. In a season with no silverware, questions will be asked, rightly or wrongly. I'm one who really backs Rohl, but my concerns with him are that, apart from one game against Hearts and 1 half v that lot, we have been horrendous to watch all season.
Since Rohl came in, he did inherit a team that was all over the place, so I'm willing to look past that for now, but we really need to start seeing a style of football at some point. He is young and will make mistakes, but that'll only carry him so far at Rangers. He's been well backed, so, as Ss says, over to you, Danny.
06 Mar 2026 18:48:26
BB4, read what I said, though. At no point did I ever say that Ss was calling for the manager's head. I said there were a few others who had been.
I also knew from past posts that he thought the manager was too inexperienced, so I was asking if he thought that getting this far changed his opinion.
I was interested to see what he thought now, depending on what we did for the rest of the season.
Trying to not be so confrontational by asking questions on others' opinions rather than giving my opinion, as people don't like that on here, it seems. Seems even that approach doesn't work on here. 🤷
06 Mar 2026 18:52:38
Bb4, I think he concentrated mostly on trying to sort our defence, then, more recently, bringing a more attacking style with 2 up front, showing what he wants for the future. Unfortunately, our defence has shown it still can't be trusted.
06 Mar 2026 19:03:00
Kaiser, I think defence is also a full-team thing, though. When we were playing more pragmatically, it was working. I want us to find a balance, but agree we still probably need better defenders if we want a more progressive style.
06 Mar 2026 19:48:07
Ah, Ok Angus, got you mate. 👌
Kaiser, I just posted a post on banter pointing that out exactly, that when he came in he must have been focused on us losing so many goals and making us hard to beat, taking away from him being able to put his style across.
06 Mar 2026 21:38:56
Aye right Angus always on here causing trouble, even calling folk idiots yesterday. 😜😂
06 Mar 2026 22:34:20
No problem, easily done. I think it was agreed on here that the first thing any manager should do is make us difficult to beat. Now, the difficult bit is finding a way to not concede goals and be more attacking and entertaining.
Personally, I think it will be into next season before we see the best of that. If we can win this season by being boring and pragmatic, I will easily accept that.
07 Mar 2026 07:38:44
I know, Kaiser, you're using quotes from ancient philosophers to hide it. I was speaking about myself as well, remember, though.
07 Mar 2026 17:34:10
Ancient philosopher, Angus? Mark Twain was a 19th century author, pal. Oh, the irony lmao.
04 Mar 2026 21:52:03
There seems to be a misconception and persistent attack line being used recently.
Let's clear this up once and for all.
I have never Recommended, Raved about or otherwise treated Theo Aasgaard as a star player.
I do not think irrationally about players because they are "from my neck of the woods".
I always think objectively about all players regardless of where they are from.
And most importantly Thelo Aasgaard is from Merseyside, so certainly not anywhere near my "neck of the woods".
04 Mar 2026 23:17:32
Aph, I've said before how much I respect you as a person for your support of my grandfather's homeland and your decency as a human being, but my god, you have a drama almost daily.
You need to grow a thicker skin and not feel the need to defend every point of yours that is challenged to death.
Your opinion is your opinion. Your truth is your truth. You won't agree with everyone, nor them with you. Accept that and you'll be better for it.
Please take this advice in the spirit of friendship it is intended.
05 Mar 2026 00:39:40
Asa, I feel you are being your own worst enemy now. I have stood by you and we have shared the same vision for Rangers on the takeover.
I have learned not to rise to bait.
You hold a high position within the Scandinavian world of football, and must get a lot of flack within that position. So why let a faceless page bother you, my friend?
05 Mar 2026 01:30:42
Aye, Asa, just let it be water off a duck's back, mate.
I don't know who's made
The latest comment that's been mentioned, but it doesn't matter.
If someone annoys u, just say aye, ok, whatever, n move on, bro. 👍🏻
05 Mar 2026 06:08:56
It's not about having thin skin.
I can take the flack, but I am of the opinion that it is easier to explain something in a post than write the same replies to multiple people.
I wanted to clear a misconception, as I have been made aware that I have not been the clearest recently.
05 Mar 2026 06:30:14
Athole, this post is not about defending anything I have said, my friend.
Unfortunately, and stupidly, I have reacted to some coldo-style posters who repeat falsehoods. Unfortunately, some respected posters then repeated that false information.
I felt it necessary to clear it up, so these falsehoods can be shot down when applied for the sole purpose of attempting to destroy the well educated discussions that we have.
It is not drama I intended. I intended this post to be about negating drama and squashing troll posts.
05 Mar 2026 06:46:28
Just read the stream u spoke of, ignore the poster; it bugs them more. Let him rant away, as no response saves u engaging. As White Horse says, why let it bother u.
05 Mar 2026 08:14:56
Aphe, to be honest I can't remember what you said about Aasgaard and it doesn't matter now anyway. Today's chip paper, as they say.
It is very annoying, I agree, when the same people say the same things over and over against you rather than argue against the points you make, I know that.
However, by opening up another thread all you do is give them the opportunity to do it all over again. I often wonder why others can't see the 0-0 count and the same rubbish being spouted, but they are perhaps more involved in the discussion.
That 0-0 poster is saying what they do to cause that discord amongst the regulars, but there is no real benefit to them for doing that.
It is anonymous; we don't know each other, and in an hour's time something will come up where those posters all agree and the old discussion has been forgotten.
Just ignore the flak where you can; argue your point, but then see the discussion is lost and just stop posting in response to that poster. The topic will come up again another day very soon as the breadth of what we can chat about on Rangers is limited.
Now, if I can only follow my own advice we are on to a winner. 🙈
05 Mar 2026 08:29:39
Feel free to correct any misconceptions and post what u like, but as others have said, sometimes it's best, when it's like that, to ignore or scroll on, as it's going nowhere and you're butting heads (I know, coming from me) and only going to get u more annoyed.
If I may comment on the debate without making it worse, I think sometimes it's some difficulty not being able to separate 2 debates from one that causes issues. Eg, is he a good player, but is he worth the supposed high cost and wages? One focuses on price, the other on ability.
This can lead to some rather over-the-top, exaggerated comparisons from both sides, like "He's only had one good season" or comparing him to Jake Hastie and Michael O'Halloran, which only adds to frustration and, unfortunately, leads to wild, unfair comments and accusations being made as things boil over.
Like we said yesterday, it's better to leave it and move on, or u will just end up having another bad day with annoyed thoughts lingering, while the other person is happy going about their day. I hope I've put this across OK, mate.
05 Mar 2026 10:14:49
Kaiser, come on now, he is never as good as Jake Hastie no matter the price. 😉
Your point, though, is valid. We can't influence the price, or even know if it is a truthful one. Does he improve the team? Can he get better? And, how is he performing now, whilst not at his best.
Chermiti went through the same on here, and people are starting to move even slightly to being on his side.
05 Mar 2026 10:42:47
Good God. Drama, drama and more drama. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
05 Mar 2026 11:44:04
Just ignore them and don't even give them the time of day with more posts, mate.
05 Mar 2026 13:02:01
Better off just ignoring them, Aphelion. It took me a while to realise that, to be fair, but better just to let it slide like water off a duck's back, as Stevie said, or just give it a thumbs up and say cheers. 👍
05 Mar 2026 13:08:27
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Mark Twain.
05 Mar 2026 13:20:57
Thanks, guys, and I agree.
To answer your questions about it bothering me, in a sense it doesn't bother me in the way you think.
In football, as in business, I am challenged and given flack a lot; in both, I have the ability to use the data available to me to defend my decisions. I offer accountability and transparency with other shareholders.
On this site, I still, wrongly it seems, stick to the habit of explaining my position.
That is all I have done here due to certain persistent lines of false information.
I have attempted to remove all doubt and explain myself clearly.
05 Mar 2026 13:22:23
Hahaha, lighten up, Asa.
I remember you saying that Antman was 'excellent' once and that Aasgaard will come good and was a victim because of his transfer fee.
I disagree with all of that, but it doesn't make a blind bit of difference what you or I think. Our opinions aren't that important. Just chill, mate, post away or don't, but either way, just relax.
05 Mar 2026 15:54:04
Excellent, Fork, and equally apt for this discussion: Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.
05 Mar 2026 16:08:34
Thank you, Angus. I deserved that. I have been an idiot. 😂
05 Mar 2026 16:43:27
Bit like Groundhog Day, tbh.
05 Mar 2026 17:52:40
Aphe, there are a few of us on here who it would apply to, and I include myself in that right at head of the queue. Don't always get the chance to quote Cicero on a football forum either, so thought I would take it. 😉
Take the flak as it will come, but know that your opinion is right to you, but please don't give them the easy hit of having another dig at you.
I like you and your posts; we don't always agree, but one isn't exclusive to the other. I think we have that mutual respect, and it is there with others, which allows us to be that way.
05 Mar 2026 17:54:18
Aphe, you are too polite and respectful for the many a******s on this site, but, to me, you're definitely one of the best posters.
Keep posting, bud, your info is invaluable. If these people can't see that, that's their loss.
05 Mar 2026 18:24:59
It's 100% Angus. I really appreciate that we can respectfully disagree; sometimes we can be abrasive in tone, but I don't believe we stray into disrespect.
Jim, thank you very much for your kind words about me personally.
I would disagree entirely with your judgement that my information is invaluable.
The site managed without my information for years before I joined around 5 years ago, and I am sure it would be perfectly fine without my information now and in the future.
05 Mar 2026 18:34:37
Aphelion, we all know you are not going to leave the site. What I would suggest is having a look at yourself, if I'm honest. This is the 30th time we have read this thread in one form or another. It's very tedious, and it's never about Rangers.
05 Mar 2026 18:48:55
Okay YokeTheJoker
I have done as you asked and had a look at myself. I see success.
What do you see when you do likewise?
05 Mar 2026 18:50:47
Yoke, simple solution, though, is to scroll past and don't comment. No-one asks anyone to read any thread on here.
If those who did continually have a dig at Aphe as a poster, rather than at what he writes, perhaps he wouldn't need to continue talking about this other than Rangers. Just a thought.
05 Mar 2026 19:42:34
Angus, you need to tell that to yer pal Star about the idiot comment. 😬
05 Mar 2026 20:08:04
Storm said there were a few who should take the advice, including me.
But, I am not getting involved in your back and forth, bringing up old comments.
btw, it is an anonymous site, so there aren't any 'friends' on here in the way I would count them.
Sorry to everyone, there are a lot I like, but friends would be pushing it. 😉
05 Mar 2026 19:44:04
But they don't constantly have digs, Angus, and who asked you? Are you his bodyguard, lol? Maybe you could take your own advice and also scroll past.
05 Mar 2026 20:14:48
Well, Angus, I have got to say I am disgusted at that comment. 🤣
This site is binary. Friend or foe.
Your choice. 😉🤣
05 Mar 2026 20:19:02
Zero chance of that happening, Yoke.
05 Mar 2026 22:36:35
Aphe, I don't have friends or foes on here. I just come on to have a chat about football and voice my opinion. It doesn't matter to me who voices the different opinion, and we have, as I said, had differences over the time I have been on.
Always happy to be challenged, but the agreement responses on here tell me who isn't up for that challenge. 🤷
05 Mar 2026 22:47:42
Of course, Angus, I was just having a little joke at your comment.
We have had our differences in the past, and I am sure we will have many in the future.
I personally feel the way our disagreements have been conducted has been with respect.
06 Mar 2026 07:58:00
Aphe, I knew you were, so don't worry about it, and they have been respectful. Sorry, my post was a little narky. 🤷 It wasn't aimed in any way at you.
Cuillin, I misunderstood your post in another thread, and I apologised for that at the time on there.
However, my apologies again, as it clearly upset you, and that wasn't my intention. My intention was to defend a positive post from another poster.
06 Mar 2026 12:40:12
Alph, 'ignore' the main culprit, I took a very difficult decision to 'ignore' someone and I'm now starting to enjoy site again.
U keep posting, as you're one of the reasons I stick it out. Last 12 months we have lost too many good posters.
06 Mar 2026 13:19:31
John I am going nowhere my friend unless the Edd's ask me to remove myself.
Unfortunately in terms of ignoring, I suffer the Gemini effect.
I ignore 1 and 2 more pop up.
06 Mar 2026 15:43:51
Aph, good man. Just keep posting.
Back to football, Aph (and all).
What does the top 4 look like come season end?
Mine, I'm sorry to say, is.
1. Hearts
2. Celtic
3. Rangers
4. Motherwell.
06 Mar 2026 16:25:38
Athole, I see it as Celtic, Rangers, Hearts and Motherwell. I still think Hearts will lose more points than us and Celtic. Celtic also have that experience of getting titles over the line, and my worry is that will be the difference.
Does the cup result on Sunday change it for you or anyone else?
06 Mar 2026 16:43:53
Motherwell.
Hearts.
Celtic.
Rangers.
😉 🎣 🤣
Seriously now.
Rangers.
Hearts.
Motherwell.
Celtic.
Tall order but here's hoping. 👍👍
06 Mar 2026 16:46:37
Athole, I do feel we will finish second now, as culturally the club needs to change.
Angus, Sunday's result will not change my opinions.
A derby is a 50/50 at any given time, and losing won't change my opinion that Danny is the right man for the job.
That being said, I will go into Sunday desperate for a victory and will be bitterly disappointed if we are unable to achieve that result.
Following the huge errors at the start of the season, personally, I have taken stock and I am now thinking beyond the current form.
06 Mar 2026 16:58:07
Aphe, I didn't word it particularly well. I was wondering if winning on Sunday means people think that the team/squad will have more confidence going into the later league games. So does that confidence from a cup win give people more hope that the team will adopt a more winning attitude.
06 Mar 2026 17:15:50
Personally, I don't think it will, my friend.
Both sides of the Old Firm have forgotten how to act in a close title race.
Players feed off the high energy and slightly lower expectations in Europe, but likewise they feed off the persistent, negative, nervous energy from the stands domestically.
Unfortunately, it appears that both sets of supporters feel they have a divine right to dominate, and any slip up is one step closer to Armageddon.
Hearts continue to perform, in my opinion, due to the constant, high, positive energy at Tyncastle, which pushes a team on in the late stages of a match.
Compare that to Rangers, when a close game leads to the entire stadium having a nervous breakdown.
06 Mar 2026 17:28:39
Angus, I am back and forwards on this but I'm basing Hearts 1st on the fact that they probably only need to win 5 of their remaining games, and I think that'll be enough to get it done.
Don't think cup game result alters anything for us or them, Angus.
Obviously, I am hoping we're 1st, but I'm still absolutely gutted about the result last week.
06 Mar 2026 18:55:28
Athole, I agree and think they are in the driving seat. They have been having close and sometimes edgy games, which is my hope for us. However, that is all it is, possibly a forlorn hope. The plastic pitch at Killie always gives me hope against any team, and Motherwell won't be easy, but if for some reason they win all 4 it is done and dusted, I think.
They also have a good record vs top 6 clubs, but just a small glimmer.
I just hope the cup game, if we win, gives us that boost to go on a run of wins rather than the draws recently. Again, hope beyond hope.
If they only need to win 5, did last week make such a big difference to that? It keeps us above Celtic, but are Hearts too far away anyway for it to matter?
06 Mar 2026 19:00:44
Aphe, your post made me smile quietly, as these are thoughts I have voiced before. Mental fragility is what has stopped us from winning, and yet we still boo at half time, and groan at every misplaced pass. Should the players be stronger? Of course, yes, but Hearts fans are showing how effective that backing can be.
For everyone else, no, it isn't all the fans' fault. However, we all have read about that 12th man effect, so do we not see there is an opposite effect when the atmosphere isn't supportive.
Sorry, getting desperate probably, as I really want to win a title soon. Leaving it to the players hasn't worked so far. 🤷
07 Mar 2026 09:11:42
Angus and Aph, 100%.
Never have and never will understand booing a player who's already short of confidence.
I had hoped that when we're at this stage of a tight season that the penny would drop, and we'd have a concerted effort as a 'support' to scream our support to lift the players no matter what.
It's Our club long after the players are gone. We'll be left with the legacy of failure or success.
03 Mar 2026 11:18:25
Can't believe on what Olsen has shown so far that people are thinking of buying him for 8 million and he's on what 45k a week. The guy has shown the appetite of a lamb, forgot how many times I was shouting at him to have a go on Sunday not turn back and pass the ball 2 yards.
Look at how well Rommens has done in comparison. We need to be ruthless we need fighters and winners, perhaps if Olsen scores a hattrick on Sunday and helps us to win the double ill change my mind.
03 Mar 2026 12:55:04
Same Olsen that set up both goals, aye? He's certainly capable of a bit more, but to discredit his impact so far is slightly shortsighted. He has 6 league games, 3 goal contributions (should be 4; it's his cross for Chermiti's second against Celtic), and he has, in reality, only played the minutes of almost 4 games.
That's consistency and good numbers for a January signing so far in my book.
03 Mar 2026 13:27:47
Forza, I agree, and perhaps we might just be expecting too much at this stage for him.
Also, I am never 100% sure whether the inflated figures we see on salary and fee are ever correct. Personally, I wouldn't pay £8m for anyone, but I think all transfer fees are over-inflated.
03 Mar 2026 14:46:52
Forza, you are 100% correct.
03 Mar 2026 16:33:49
BT, a goal involvement every 90 minutes, we r told, is very good.
03 Mar 2026 17:05:14
John, if every one of our attackers had that average, we would be in a much better place.
03 Mar 2026 18:18:40
When put like that, Forza, then that's reasonable over approx 4 games. 👍
04 Mar 2026 09:14:41
Good post, BT. He's been total mince imo mate.
04 Mar 2026 09:25:33
I think he has the talent, but I absolutely don't think we've seen enough yet to pay £9m for him.
It may be wiser to ask for a 6 month loan extension that works in the club's favour, ie it's our choice to sign for said fee and not an obligation.
04 Mar 2026 09:25:35
Olsen is a class act. He has not played much football prior to joining us and will come good, hopefully sooner than later.
He is exactly the type of player we should be recruiting in order to improve the team.
He shows intelligence, good ball retention and can create 'big chances'. I believe we will all be raving about him soon (Sunday coming would be a good time to start. 💪).
04 Mar 2026 10:36:36
Can we stop talking about him. Just in this thread, his price has gone up £1m. 😉
04 Mar 2026 11:48:20
The situation with Olson is that he was brought in to win the league this year. Since he left Belgium he's not done much. Is he worth 8 million? Not on his form so far. Does he have enough time left in Glasgow to turn that around? That's the question. 🤔
04 Mar 2026 13:09:40
Carson, I don't think the club have said that, though; that is coming from fans.
I also think that people see his goals and assists for Brugge and position and expect him to be a Willie Johnston type of winger, and he isn't. If, as said, there is an agreement between the club and player in place, then it may be happening.
04 Mar 2026 13:21:12
100% Angus. The club's expectations on a specific player do not align with some fans' perception of what should be expected.
04 Mar 2026 13:35:24
Agree, Aphe.
I also think we need to look at his outputs so far. He has 3 assists in 6 games (not all starts). The top in the league so far for the season is 7. That is in 27/28 games.
He creates 3 chances per 90 minutes of football. If you consider Kiziridis of Hearts is on 2.9/90 minutes, then is that so bad? Just and Slattery of Motherwell have 7 assists each, but only 1.8 and 1.4 chances created every 90, respectively, and fans are raving about them.
So is he just unflashy, and fans were expecting something mind-blowing and wizardly? So perception is the issue rather than what he is giving when you look at figures.
I do expect him to get better as well, though. :)
04 Mar 2026 13:46:10
If he wasn't bought in for the league run-in, why bring him in at all? It's pretty clear the club thought at the time we were in this title chase and brought Olson in to make a difference. The club don't need to come out and say, 'aww, he's here 2 help us 2 win the league.' That's only my take on it.
04 Mar 2026 13:52:16
Why bring him in? Is that a serious question?
I honestly don't know how to answer that.
In my experience, every window is an opportunity to improve the playing squad.
Not just in the short term, but long term squad planning.
04 Mar 2026 14:04:15
Angus, I expect him to continually get better, but if he continues at even this underwhelming-to-some average, he will blow anyone we have out of the water.
04 Mar 2026 15:31:13
Angus, that was a good post, mate. Well done with that.
I think he'll be a good signing for us, as I fully expect us to sign him full time, whether it be summer or in January next year.
04 Mar 2026 16:20:58
100%, I wouldn't be buying him from what I've seen so far. Maybe we're all expecting too much from him. He's not had a lot of football, so maybe another 6-month loan with an option would suit. Get a full pre-season in him, then no excuses.
04 Mar 2026 17:12:39
Carson, there's a big difference between being signed to win the league and being signed for the run-in. He's come in and added a bit of strength and depth, same as the other new signings. It also lets Rohl get us playing more like he actually wants, possibly.
So yeah, we can probably all agree the new boys were brought in to give us a better shot in the second half of the season - whether that's pushing to win the league or at least making sure we're competing at the end.
But, like Aphe said, he's also a long-term signing. The club has to think beyond just this season. Players always need a bit of time to settle, and by next season they'll all have half a season under their belt, settled in, and ready to kick on.
04 Mar 2026 19:31:24
Has he made the team better? That's the question, and has he shown he's worth 8/9 million on his time in Glasgow, not Belgium. His overall play leaves a lot for debate. Some of the comments are over the top — all this "he's class." He's far from that, or he wouldn't be at us on loan.
I don't think he's a bad player, but I'm judging on time at Rangers so far and not his history, no matter how many times Asa likes to use his past glory.
04 Mar 2026 20:08:20
Oh Carson, you really are trying so hard to have a go at me.
It is not past glory I am basing my opinions on. He is currently performing at a level where he is making us better, and his numbers show that he is contributing more than anyone else.
If he continues in that vein, he is likely to far exceed the numbers of any other Rangers player in a comparable position.
04 Mar 2026 20:14:59
We have been desperate for a creative, intelligent right midfielder for years. As soon as we have one, we attempt to write them off after the equivalent minutes of 4 matches.
We talk about Cerny being the benchmark. Skov Olson has better numbers in the same comparable start.
Sima is exactly the same.
04 Mar 2026 20:36:25
So you think we should pay 9 million for him because he might get better next year, maybe if he didn't pass the ball back 90% of the time and tried taking on a man. So, I'm sorry if I think 8/9 million for a player who's crossed the ball well for a couple of goals is not worth the money, especially when there's a boy at Motherwell who's beating everyone's numbers but you don't rate him.
🤔 🤷
04 Mar 2026 20:43:46
Yes, Jake Hastie was doing well at Motherwell also.
I have never said I do not rate him, but the valuation of Keiron Bowie's move in January shows middle Scottish clubs that they can command higher fees.
I 100% would rather spend the fee and commit to the principled agreement we have with the player than risk a huge outlay on a player that has done well at Motherwell during 1 season.
04 Mar 2026 20:53:56
Carson, he creates 3 chances every 90 minutes more than any other player in the league. He has 1 goal and 3 assists in 6 games (352 Mins), when the top assister has 7 over the whole season. 87% successful pass rate, 78% successful long balls (so they aren't all just back to FB). 75% successful dribbles. He has only been dispossessed once.
He has made 11 recoveries of the ball and 8 clearances.
So, his stats show he is decent just now, but will improve. The point is, he hasn't just been bought for now but for the future as well.
You seem to be looking for that old style winger rather than the right sided playmaker he is. You won't see that winger, though.
04 Mar 2026 20:54:08
But, of course, you ignore all that has been said about him not being a Chris Burke type, and complain about him not taking on a man.
Why take on a man and lose the ball, when you can cross it for your striker to score and overhead kick to lead the derby.
I know I would rather have intelligence and vision over a sprinter.
04 Mar 2026 20:58:51
Aph, really? Jake Hastie, when was that? So you're saying he had the same numbers as the boy then and now, and one season apart from Belgium? What has Olson done? Nothing. So what's the difference? Been a one-season wonder in Belgium, then Scotland.
You had the same stance as Aasgaard, and he's flopped as well. But that's right, any player from your neck of the woods is brilliant.
04 Mar 2026 21:08:11
Angus, it might just be me, but crossing the ball in well isn't worth 9 million plus wages. Keep asking, apart from Belgium, what's he done? Absolutely nothing. Even dropped from the national team because he was poor. But because he set up 2 goals and scored one, he's class again because Aph says so.
04 Mar 2026 21:12:39
So his skill is crossing the ball. That's well worth 9 million. Can he take throw-ins as well?
04 Mar 2026 21:31:16
Carson, if you knew anything at all, you would know that he had 3 successful seasons in Denmark and 2 league-winning seasons in Belgium.
He struggled for numbers in Serie A, playing backup to Ricardo Orsolini.
He struggled for game time in the Bundesliga behind Patrick Summer.
So, yet again, you argue against hard facts.
04 Mar 2026 21:33:12
Wingers we have had that fit the profile you look for recently.
Michael O'Halloran
Rabbi Matondo
Daniel Candieas.
Once again, I reiterate, I would always prefer intelligence and vision over a sprinter.
04 Mar 2026 21:44:18
Were any of them valued at 9 million? Not one. As for Daniel Candieas, he had great numbers, so that argument isn't very good.
04 Mar 2026 21:46:49
If i new anything. 😆 🤣 Here we go, where your opinion is somehow more important, as you said the same about Aasgaard, or don't you like them? Cold hard facts.
04 Mar 2026 21:47:23
None of them were anywhere near the standard of Skov Olsen.
04 Mar 2026 21:52:56
Aph, who do you mean? None? Who are you talking about? Are you really Olsen's dad?
04 Mar 2026 21:54:13
Again, you're wrong. It's becoming a recurring theme with you.
I have never raved about the Merseyside native Thelo Aasgaard.
04 Mar 2026 21:56:46
Aph, maybe if you knew anything, you would remember Candieas won Rangers player of the year in his first season. You might not have been following the team that year tho.
04 Mar 2026 22:02:00
I don't forget, Carson, but forgive me if I'm wrong. Did we not have a team that were of far lower standard?
04 Mar 2026 22:02:24
Carson, so I give around 8 sets of stats and you choose one. Can you tell me when you were at the meeting as well, where the fee was discussed? Did you get the salary figure as well?
Difficult to have a discussion when you are just ranting.
04 Mar 2026 22:03:48
Brilliant. Using a Rangers player of the season with great numbers, goals and assists, cost 7 hundred thousand pound, compared to Olson at 9 million. 😆
04 Mar 2026 22:12:57
Angus, my point was and is, Olson not worth 9 million on what he's done so far, that's it.
04 Mar 2026 22:23:35
I really liked Candeias. He was a cracking player for us, and in a better team would've shown even better. Great assist numbers in his time with us. Underrated by some fans.
04 Mar 2026 22:27:36
Carson, how do you know he will cost £9M? In this thread alone he went from 8 to 9.
You are still ranting even now. Calm down, and have a discussion with me. So, what about the other stats, rather than just the crossing? Ignore the price, and say whether those stats, which are among the highest in the league after 6 games, would make him worth signing.
The price isn't relevant to what we are trying to achieve on the park. We can't do anything about the price, and whatever is said in the press will be wrong anyway.
So, if the club think they can afford a price, whatever it is, do you think the stats I quoted make him a decent option for the team? You are hung up on the price possibly, but look at whether those figures make us better on the pitch; not as a flying wing wizard, but as a playmaker.
Just trying to have a discussion without comments about the people who make them. 🤷
04 Mar 2026 22:33:29
Stevie, my friend, I really liked Candeias whilst he was at Rangers, so please don't take me wrong.
He would have had the chance to play in a better team, but he did not have the character to stay and fight for his place in the team.
04 Mar 2026 22:29:58
Carson,
Aasgaard is from Merseyside.
I am objective about every player regardless of where they are from or which country they represent.
I have answered questions about many players from Scandinavia that i have responded by stating they are not good enough.
04 Mar 2026 22:32:38
Angus I have reached that same conclusion.
Very familiar pattern of posts, ranting about anything against me.
04 Mar 2026 22:44:36
Angus the last thing a want is to argue with people its only my opinion so far he's not worth 8/9 million that fee came up as his parent club paid 12 for him but are happy 2 take the loss. That its self says a lot a 100% think the money would be better on the boy from Motherwell who isn't going cost anything like that sort off money yes a took the nip with aph because of his stance that 3 assist and 1 goal is worth 9 mill or what ever the price tag is as a keep saying on what he's done so far isn't worth the gamble is 27 shortly he's not a young boy
05 Mar 2026 01:36:07
Aphe, not at all, mate.
u make a point nobody can argue with about him refusing to stay and compete.
He's since admitted it's the biggest regret of his career.
Loved him to bits as a player and character. 👍🏻
05 Mar 2026 08:08:26
Carson, so the price you mention is a guess by the press, saying that they won't accept too much of a loss, so I don't get hung up on price. Maswanhise might cost the same after the Hibs lad went for £6m. Olsen has also performed for a good few years at a decent level. This is Maswanhise's first good season; there are lots of differences to try to compare.
On the stats, those are over 6 games. We have played 29, so let's just assume that if that is the rate he will stay on, then he would have 19 assists by now and 5 goals. He might not be at that, granted, but let's assume this is his average rate.
Do those figures make you more interested in the player in our team?
He has only been here 6 games and isn't fully match fit yet, as he was out for 3 months. So those figures are decent for him at this time. As I said, I expect improvement. At the moment, he gives us something on the RHS we didn't have until he came.
So same advice to you: don't rise to a post you don't like and chat like this. I will do it all day every day. Granted, says me who takes the bait as well. 😂
05 Mar 2026 08:32:17
Angus the problem is Olson's stats are pushed as 2 why he's a good Player and worth a big fee and wage but when u use that logic on the boy from Motherwell and his stats you get he's a one session wonder so if the bar is set at stats surely they should also include other players in our league?
05 Mar 2026 16:12:53
Carson, I am not comparing them, though; I just said that Skov Olson had performed at a high level for several seasons at different clubs, and Maswahise's is his first.
I am trying to say that the player we have isn't as bad as others are saying, and his stats show that.
No-one is denying that Maswanhise's stats are excellent, although he still does seem to be well over his xG, i.e. he is scoring chances he wouldn't be expected to. I often compare the players in the league to show where our players are good or bad.
Motherwell either didn't want to sell, or we didn't want to buy, so I suppose, but we might want him to show this isn't just a one off season where he is scoring everything. That is all I am really saying; not that I don't like him.
Sometimes as well, the manager or club don't think the player fits into the style we want to play. So his play as a CF doesn't offer what Chermiti does, or he is more a flashy winger when we want a playmaker like Skov Olson. That is all, really.
05 Mar 2026 17:31:44
Mate, I 100% don't have a problem with the boy I hope he scores a hat trick on Sunday. My only point is on what we have seen so far is he worth the money?
05 Mar 2026 18:56:31
What money? That is the point, I don't care about that part; I only care about the club getting the best players they can to join us.
So my question would always be: have we seen enough on the pitch to want to make the loan deal permanent? tbh I am a little undecided after just 6 games, and would want to see more of him.
Also possibly more from him, but his stats say he is contributing even now. The price never ever comes into my equation.
So ignore the money (it can be hard), but do you see a player who you think will make the team better for next season? We have him till the end of this season, which is why I am not asking about that in this chat.
05 Mar 2026 19:59:32
Ok then without the price so far no i don't think he will make us any better. But that can change my original post was has he showed enough and dose he have enough time left. That was it but as a said a got all the stats.
05 Mar 2026 22:31:13
Carson, that is fine. We have a different opinion, and hopefully at some point along the line we will both agree. Most likely it will be one end of the discussion or the other. I know we both hope that is with him being successful.
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