Rangers Debates 3

20 Mar 2026 20:25:47
Honestly I am sick of this players don't get time nonsense! It's becoming such a redundant and silly point scoring tactic.

Players are doing the job I'm sure 99.9% would love to be doing and getting well paid for it too. Boo hoo that the people who help pay their wages might give them some stick because they don't set the world on fire and don't perform as expected straight away, but using it as an excuse to berate our own fans is silly and pretty narrow minded.

I honestly wasn't aware that it was us fans' opinions on player form that decided whether they stay or go, I thought that was down to the owner/manager to make that decision. So a player will get as much time as they decide and not us! If any player feels he has been getting some stick fairly or unfairly, then show some mental fortitude and prove the doubters wrong.

I slated Dessers when he first joined and even called him a donkey but even though he wasn't great at much, I came to accept and appreciate that he scored goals and that's what strikers are paid to do. So even though my opinion and a fair few fans wanted him gone early, he won me round by doing what we as a club signed him to do!

Ps if that was the case, anyone remember Matondo? He is still at Rangers getting a fat wage and seeing out his contract and has had plenty of time to impress numerous managers but he just doesn't have it but he has had all the time in the world.

Sorry rant over lads.

20 Mar 2026 20:52:50
I agree with the 'not getting time' excuse, it's just an excuse for poor form. If the player starts playing, he will get plaudits. It's pretty simple.

20 Mar 2026 20:56:28
How would you feel getting abused by someone who is paying for the privilege of watching you work.

It is unacceptable to think you can abuse a young man because you paid to sit your rear on a seat!

If you want robots to do your bidding, play a computer game!

Imagine that was your son on the field the next time you abuse a young man.

20 Mar 2026 22:09:59
Aphe, honestly, where in my post did I say "abuse"? That's your words. I said it's okay to vent frustration as a paying customer, you know, since fans are the lifeblood of any club.

Now, I saw what you put earlier, and you are usually respectful even when we disagree, so I'm going to ignore your comment this time.

But don't put words in my mouth again, and say I'm abusing anyone!

20 Mar 2026 22:12:48
It's not abuse I am on about, Aphe, it's criticism, and these days some would not allow criticism. It's really simple: if you play well, you get plaudits; if you don't, you get criticism.

You do it with Souttar, so I don't see why you get all defensive because people are criticising ASO, who has been piss poor.

20 Mar 2026 22:13:36
Ps Aphe, if I was getting 45k a week, then people could basically do what they want to me or say what they want.

20 Mar 2026 22:15:05
Unless u choose to work somewhere that you know involves people shouting things at you, of course. 🤔

20 Mar 2026 22:32:04
Kaiser. 😂😂😂

20 Mar 2026 22:41:57
bbj, The time it needs to settle has been the topic of studies. The University of Manchester, in 2019, looked at it. Whilst based on the EPL, the principles will be the same. The analysis suggests that a new signing might take as long as half a season to truly "settle in" and find their feet, contradicting fans' expectations of immediate success. The time it takes depends on the nationality, and often the position, of the player, but data-driven analysis showed it was in fact true.

Using Dessers, who you came to like, as a case study: he scored 3 times in his first 10 games and 5 times in his first 19. He went on to score over 50 in 2 seasons. Surely that shows it takes time to settle, and then win fans over to some extent at least.

The alternative is that the club only buy poor players. Surely that can't be true, as our structured scouting and data-driven analytics would identify players who have the skills we require.

But the one part we can't get from that is predicting how players will adapt to the pressure of playing for a club with the demands of winning every game. Look at the difference when the crowd is behind the team, to see the difference it can make.

So you may not believe fan opinion influences performance, but severe, ongoing criticism from fans can hinder a player's ability to settle in and perform at their best. This phenomenon is supported by sports psychology, which shows that high-stress, hostile environments break down a player's confidence, concentration, and cognitive abilities.

Not a criticism of the fans, nor a defence of the player, but just an explanation of the facts that experts have discovered over years of research and analysis. So vent all you want, but science has shown it isn't the best environment to get the best out of a player, I suspect especially if they are struggling for form.

20 Mar 2026 23:29:15
Angus, I think you misunderstood my post, bud, as I was basically saying the players will get time to settle as it's the manager and owners that decide that and not the fans. So regardless of fans' opinions over the first 10-15 games, etc., the board and manager will allow them the time if they're putting in the work.

Regardless of what the studies and such say, they can do nothing about criticism due to technology, and it's not just fans, remember, there are pundits that have slated players for years and years.

I get what you mean by it's not the best thing for them, but it can't be changed, I'm afraid. For anyone who decides their life is any sport/movie/music etc, then they need to accept it's part and parcel of it all.

As Storm said, if I'm getting good money then it wouldn't bother me and would spur me on to prove them wrong, but that's just me.

21 Mar 2026 02:59:08
This is just a simple fact. Some players will settle faster than other players; nothing is being made up. Some players need longer to adapt than others, same in every walk of life, Bigbluejim, and if you think that nonsense, fair play, man.

21 Mar 2026 07:32:57
Studies have shown that 90% of studies are made up nonsense. You're right, Star. Some settle quicker than others, but at the same time you don't buy players in the summer and say don't worry about winning till October. Or similar in January.


As u say, same in every walk of life. If u get a job, u don't get 3 months to start performing, and it's not like they're learning a new job. You can still improve with time, but you're still expected to do your job.

21 Mar 2026 08:24:58
Bbj, I agree that fans have always reacted to players, but social media and our long-term lack of success have made it much worse.

I am trying to highlight that players need time to adjust to new fitness levels, tactics, and teammates. When fans harshly criticize them during this already unsettled time, it only makes things harder. Being highly paid does not make players immune to that pressure. I doubt knowing this will make fans react differently, but I wanted to put it out there.

Comparing a footballer changing clubs to a normal employee starting a new job is inaccurate.

Footballers face intense public scrutiny and are expected to perform instantly, while their performance depends on how well they work with teammates they are still getting to know.

Some do settle more quickly, and I was surprised that can depend on where they come from as well as what position they play. But it isn't about not performing at all; it is about performing at optimum levels. ASO is a good example - he is playing and hitting some sort of level, but we all think he can play much better.

21 Mar 2026 08:57:01
Certain things would be expected to take time, like building connections, knowing how and where your teammates play, so passes and runs may be mistimed, and chances missed or mistakes will happen, but what u can't dismiss is application and effort. Rommens is a perfect example. While errors may happen, from minute one, he has demonstrated the desire to make it work.

Whilst things haven't yet come off for Naderi, no one is questioning his effort and u can see something is there. Same with Chucky. Unfortunately, not sure the same can be said of Aso, who, whilst he has had a couple of good moments, has appeared lax and disinterested.

21 Mar 2026 09:51:37
The reality of life is that thousands of people are abused every day at their work, thus the zero tolerance policies. They are sworn at, spat at, and assaulted. They are being paid a lot less than Olsen. He is in a high-paying, pressurised job, and he isn't performing.

Customers are venting their frustration. This isn't tennis, rugby, or golf. It's football. If he has a cognitive issue, then the club, coach, and sport psychologist should resolve it, as he has a better avenue than most. Abuse is wrong, but a reality.

21 Mar 2026 09:53:17
Kaiser, I agree with everything you say, but suspect their games are based around that application of effort as the base to express their talents. I don't think Olsen is that type of player. Is he more someone like Bajrami, who drifts and picks up pockets of space? Bajrami was called lazy initially, not surprisingly, after McCoist made the comment in a European game about not tracking back.

Not sure what it needs to get him performing, but I too expected much more from him.

21 Mar 2026 11:01:56
I agree with that, Kaiser, good post.

No one is saying to abuse the player. If he gets criticised on here, it has no bearing on his life in any way, shape, or form.

In all walks of life, if I ain't performing in my role after 3 months, I won't be sacked, but my contract could be terminated after 6 months, as there is usually a probationary period they can look at.

But that doesn't happen in football unless on loan. You can't compare all walks of life to football. That is just wrong.

21 Mar 2026 11:53:22
Oh dear. Can u imagine paying £8m+ for another Bajrami? No thanks, and he's had plenty of time to settle. Anyway, he's going to be amazing from today and make us all look foolish, I'm sure.

21 Mar 2026 12:00:15
Kaiser, that's correct, but we've got players moving to a different country; some settle faster than others. It's more the point of over-judging players who have played a handful of games. I know I've said he will need to improve before we sign him.
Angus, that's the reason why Ally was doing my head in earlier in the season.

21 Mar 2026 13:34:32
Not sure it is just settling in which is causing him to not perform as he can. I think most of it is match sharpness after a year out and lack of conditioning. Nothing would please me more than him starting to show his Brugge form from today. I suspect he may miss out as he has missed 5 days due to sickness.

21 Mar 2026 16:00:48
That means he will only have 7 games to prove his worth now, Angus.

I think he won't improve enough for fans, and if Rangers sign him, all hell will break loose.

21 Mar 2026 16:48:06
Storm, the good news for him is that it isn't you or the fans who will decide. And all hell breaks loose if we get a draw, so not sure how the owners will be able to tell what the all hell breaking loose is for this time. 😂

21 Mar 2026 20:15:54
What absolute. 💩 I suppose every time you start a new job, you're the butt end of it all from the very first minute you start. Not including moving to a new country, different foods, etc., and trying to get settled, but ohh wait, I'm still going to 100% my job lol. Surely the original post is a joke.

20 Mar 2026 18:52:18
Bit of fun folks, I asked AI to name the best 11 footballers for each position over the last 35 years, it came up with a 433 and the below, I had 8 out of the 11 before the search. I didn't have Ramos, Iniesta or CR. Need to have Ronaldinio in at Left wing instead of CR, couldn't make my mind up with the other CB or midfileder. I really miss proper enertaining football.

GK Buffon
RB Cafu
CB Paolo Maldini
CB Sergio Ramos
LB Roberto Carlos
CDM Sergio Busquets
CM Zinedine Zidane
CM Andrés Iniesta
RW Lionel Messi
ST Ronaldo Nazário
LW Cristiano Ronaldo.

20 Mar 2026 20:40:02
Personally I would have.

GK Casillas
RB Cafu
CB Ramos
CB Nesta
LB Maldini
CDM Pirlo
CM Xavi
CM Zidane
RW Messi
CF The Ronaldo
LW Cristiano Ronaldo.

20 Mar 2026 20:45:41
No Rothwell? AI is rubbish!

21 Mar 2026 07:40:59
Ramos out. Cannavaro in. Maldini definitely in, but can't decide between Carlos and Nesta? Makalele for the Makalele role (CDM).

21 Mar 2026 08:20:44
Diego Maradona probably just passed his best 35 years ago.
What a player, mind you, I'd probably find a place for him.

21 Mar 2026 22:07:53
I'd go.

Goram

Lamb
Ramos
Maldini
Carlos


Makalele

Gerrard (cap)
Zidane

Messi
R9
CR7.

20 Mar 2026 18:02:12
Aph going on the 7 game arguement. Would you sign a player if they had a good 7 games?

20 Mar 2026 19:59:45
A scout watched a player having seven good games in a row. His advice would be positive, Orange.

21 Mar 2026 10:44:38
Categorically no.

21 Mar 2026 12:03:55
What I am getting at, Aph, is you are right. We judge players too early here. But, let's forget Olsen's first 7 games. He now only has 8 games from now to impress. Apparently, he is out for tonight, so that leaves 7. So, starting from today, even if he had 7 good games, going with your answer, it wouldn't be enough to automatically warrant a move for him? And the fact he is on loan means he goes back after these remaining games, and we need to make a decision? So surely the answer isn't to buy him next season.

The answer is to loan him for another season to give him more time to earn a perm move.

21 Mar 2026 20:18:46
Even if he plays well, I wouldn't buy him. Another loan at best. No excuses then. You want the contract to go out and prove you deserve the contract.

20 Mar 2026 16:57:02
Stig it's not just this site that's lost the ability to properly debate and discuss issues without people getting upset. It's a general problem in society. No one is allowed their own opinion now without offending someone. You can no longer have opposing views with someone and move on it has to be "I'm right so you're wrong and we can no longer be friends and I need to convince as many people as I can to join my side and turn agaisnt you" patter.

It's a sad indictment of the modern world.

20 Mar 2026 19:08:34
Molsmeansgoals, nail on the head, mate, nail on the head.

20 Mar 2026 19:14:44
Very true, MolsGoals.

Social media really does have a lot to answer for.

20 Mar 2026 20:26:48
I strongly disagree, 😜 (actually I don't).

20 Mar 2026 22:51:54
Kaiser, I believe you do disagree though.

We regularly, whilst we debate, disagree, and often quite heatedly in the past. I don't deny I am trying to persuade you to shift your opinion to mine, but I am not trying to gather others to back me to make you change your mind.

I also respect you and your opinion; it doesn't offend or upset me, and, whilst we may be temporarily frustrated during the discussion, we reset and begin again with, I think, no long-term ill feeling between us.

I always have thought you would be the same as me in this, and your posts would suggest this is the case. I feel we are similar with most, if not all, posters we interact with.

I do agree that a large part of modern society may be like this, but to paint everyone with the same brush is the point I am arguing about. Also, my apologies for bringing you and our discussions into this.

21 Mar 2026 08:09:48
Angus, I'm confused now, I don't even know if I agree or disagree with that. 🤔😂 Unlike some others, like Mols said, I find that our discussions/debate are always done with respect and no ill feeling afterwards, even if our points are strongly opposed. We both feel able to give and take, and are able to move on.

So I am in complete agreement with u about our chats, and not entirely sure what u say I disagree with? 😳 Or are u just using us as an example of friends who can still disagree? Even though u said before we aren't really friends. 😭😭

21 Mar 2026 08:37:16
Sorry, you seemed to say you agreed with the fact that all society has lost the ability to debate a topic and then put it behind them. So, as you say, I was using our debates as a way to show that isn't the case.

I honestly don't think it's possible to build true friendship in the deepest sense of the word through the short, curated interactions we have on social media. You never get a complete sense of a person that way. I definitely don't mean that as a slight. I'm sure if I met most people on here in real life, we would be friends or at least very friendly.



I do know that if I put strong points forward to certain posters on here they will take it as debate, rather than 'having a go' at them. You are one of those who takes it as debate, and that is how my IRL friends would react to me, so perhaps I am being too harsh by saying we aren't friends. 😉 So, I apologise, mate. 😂😂

And I need to stop posting at night so late when I am tired and rushing to get to bed.

21 Mar 2026 09:02:09
Maybe not all, pal, but it is becoming rarer, u can debate freely as we do, so I kinda agreed with that. I'll take mate, tho, that's good enough for me, buddy. 😂👍

21 Mar 2026 09:54:16
Since we are friends now, just raise your eyes to the sky when I make my points and laugh. It is what all my mates do anyway. 😂

20 Mar 2026 15:31:40
Who do we all fancy for the world cup guys 🤔 I'm going for spain as again i won money betting them to win the euros 2 years ago 👍With the team they currently have, i can see a period of dominance again from espana 🤔

20 Mar 2026 16:20:58
I would say France. Depending on what France turns up.

Spain is a good choice also.

Never rule out Germany and England either.

I do believe the winners will be European.

20 Mar 2026 16:25:30
England, sws. 🇬🇧

20 Mar 2026 16:34:59
I can't honestly see how anyone can see past Scotland. 😉

20 Mar 2026 17:14:51
Anybody except England, sorry, but I don't care. France, as some say, if the right ones turn up.

20 Mar 2026 17:39:52
Fork, I agree, and I am always a bit like with Celtic. I always say I don't care but then sit hoping they lose.

20 Mar 2026 17:40:17
Haaland to fire Norway to glory.

20 Mar 2026 17:46:10
Fork, it's England, my friend.

20 Mar 2026 18:22:14
It's not the team, John. They can, and do, play great football. It's the commentators n punditry that drives me daft, and I end up missing a gd game. It literally turns my stomach, bud. Yes I know there's a mute button.

20 Mar 2026 18:33:22
Put my money on Brazil a few months ago. Just has that feel that it's their turn.

20 Mar 2026 18:46:47
Fork, I get that. I will definitely be supporting them unless Scotland get to the final.

20 Mar 2026 19:30:44
Fork, I'm 100% behind you in that lol.

For me,
Spain
France
Germany
Argentina
Brazil

All potential winners - should a very good competition.

20 Mar 2026 19:36:13
Watch, probably, support, just naw. 😉 😄

20 Mar 2026 19:40:46
tbh, not sure I will be able to stay awake until 2 in the morning anyway to watch any of it.

20 Mar 2026 20:28:27
Morocco will be awarded it in October.

20 Mar 2026 20:51:35
With you, Fork. Will never ever support England. The sooner they get put out the better, and save all the fake hysteria, media cringe fest and constant references to them winning it a long time ago even though they cheated.

20 Mar 2026 22:13:13
Brazil for me. Spain top European team.

20 Mar 2026 20:54:44
I hope it's not England anyone but them and I am small part English but I hope they get pumped left right and centre

21 Mar 2026 08:13:25
I'm the same, Storm. My poor mum is English, but I can't bring myself to support them. When Scotland drop out in the semis, I'll switch to France for my Dad.

21 Mar 2026 10:41:38
All good views. U will all be stressed when Kane lifts cup.

21 Mar 2026 13:16:55
I just hope it's Portugal for Ronaldo. That would be great to see.

21 Mar 2026 20:20:40
I'm saying Scotland, and if not, I won't be watching.

19 Mar 2026 18:09:19
Listen guys I know this is a football site but stig touched on something earlier and it got me wondering. Food prices are ridiculous at the minute and fuel is going to be up there soon. On average and for how many would you say you are now spending on food and supplies (toilet roll, cleaning stuff etc) per week? I've noticed a massive difference, even in the last 4-5 weeks.

I'm about £150 for the four of us. It's actually disgusting how much we are getting taken for a ride in this country. I'm fortunate to be able to afford this but my heart goes out to those that aren't as blessed. It's a crying shame what this country has came too.

19 Mar 2026 18:21:52
Agree 100% Orange T, between the government and all the big shops, they all try to rip everyone off.

19 Mar 2026 19:17:14
Trump hasn't exactly helped things. 🙃 🥴

19 Mar 2026 19:58:48
Politics in political forums is never a recipe for success either. But I agree, his point is valid.

19 Mar 2026 20:20:47
My post looks silly now. 🤔

19 Mar 2026 21:07:45
Orange I'm about 120/150 for a family of 3, but my biggest price hike is electricity, that's gone up around 40%.

20 Mar 2026 04:59:49
I'm about 250 pw for our food shop, for a family of 4, including dog food and cat food, and cleaning products. Just bought a car last week, just in time for the fuel increases. 😁

20 Mar 2026 06:34:05
About 130 a week for a family of 4. Gas and elec are going to go down dramatically, as I just bought a new build house which is energy efficient.

20 Mar 2026 07:45:52
Prices really are crazy now. Between household essential bills, gas, electric, phone, Internet, TV licence, council tax, travel, you're left skint, and that's just to survive.

20 Mar 2026 07:56:42
I have oil central heating and the price increase is mental.
Fortunately, I filled my tank just before it kicked off at 64p a litre. Now it's about £1.30+!

20 Mar 2026 08:04:58
Great post, OT, and guys, the prices worldwide are soaring, to be honest.

For a family of 4, on average it costs around 14, 000 NOK per month for groceries.

20 Mar 2026 08:14:02
What's a TV Licence? 👀

20 Mar 2026 08:22:18
Fork, we abolished the TV license in 2020. Denmark followed in 2022. Hopefully, that is the trend and Britain can abolish it by 2040. 🤣

20 Mar 2026 08:25:00
Renovated our house 5 years ago, and tried to make it more energy efficient, but still paying nearly 3 times as much on energy than 5-6 years ago. Bought an electric car 18 months ago, which is part of it, but going to have to start paying road tax, etc., so no real benefit overall financially. 6.5% council tax increase this year.

Food is over £200 pw for 5 of us. I'm fortunate to be able to cover it, but know there are so many out there who struggle.

I always buy a few extra things in the supermarket and put them in the food bank bin to help out a little.

It has been my dream to go to a World Cup, booked for the Haiti game for 4 of us, 4 nights, which was extortionate, and I'm not ever going to tell anyone what I paid for tickets. Should be happy about going and taking the kids, but so annoyed and stressed about how much it has cost, I'm not even sure I'll enjoy it now. We better win!!

20 Mar 2026 08:32:57
Agree, Fork. Not paid TV licence for about 5 years.

20 Mar 2026 08:43:55
I refuse, Paul. If they want money, go to subscription; they won't because they'd lose a fortune. Just a forced tax because you own a telly or phone. Aphelion's right, it should be binned.

20 Mar 2026 09:19:57
MPH, you are in an unfortunate position in that the markets dictate your costings.
I do think that the drive for green energy is the driving factor, though.
Prices in Britain would drop if they were to allow for the extraction of oil and gas from the Rosebank field.

20 Mar 2026 10:18:47
Orange, thanks for picking up on my post.

It's certainly something we all need to worry about.

I'm roughly £250 a week, sometimes more, for the 5 of us, and it's going to go up if this carries on.

It's shocking, folks, and I'm pretty sick of it.

I'll leave it there.

20 Mar 2026 10:30:41
Talking about the TV licence, I got a letter through the door, as they're coming out to see me for not having one. I don't watch BBC One, only Netflix, Prime, Paramount and the football.

20 Mar 2026 11:35:42
Open the door, say no thank you, n close the door. Say nothing else.

20 Mar 2026 15:24:52
Me2, don't let them in, but it's not just the BBC; if you watch any live TV, then they say you need a TV licence.

20 Mar 2026 17:53:08
It's not possible for everyone. I grow all my vegetables, a lot of fruit, and have hens that lay plenty of eggs.

What we can't use, we leave out for anyone who wants to help themselves.

My good lady makes bread, butter and cheese.

20 Mar 2026 19:19:48
John, I'm moving into yours, pal, lol.

19 Mar 2026 10:05:17
I mentioned the other week I'm a window cleaner. Well, Spring has well and truly sprung and going by my EK run I can confirm pigs can actually fly. Either that or someone has trained ostriches to.

19 Mar 2026 15:30:41
Chuffed you're managing to get work now, Kaiser.

19 Mar 2026 16:00:13
The weather has been brilliant to get going again, but the birds certainly haven't, Flb. 😬

19 Mar 2026 17:27:26
Kaiser, I did that between the ages of 19 and 24 with the local council. Used to finish at 9.30 in the morning. Mad.

Couldn't believe those guys who jumped from window ledge to ledge. I never had the bottle.

19 Mar 2026 18:29:48
Kaiser, if it wasn't for the birds (and rain) I might not need to get my windows cleaned. Sorry, forgot about dog drool.
I am just grateful for guys like you who prevent me being nagged by the wife to do it every time.

I know you don't do mine, but a big thanks to you and others for doing it. Saves me a real ear bashing; well for that anyways.

19 Mar 2026 19:00:12
Stop licking the windaes, Angus 👀. You're supposed to use a furrit n scrim. 😉 😇

19 Mar 2026 20:52:39
I have stopped Fork after the last time my lips stuck to them in January frosts. It took 2 burly firemen to separate me from it. I almost said something else which meant the same, but realised the mucky minds on here would pick up on that right away. 😂

19 Mar 2026 21:17:32
Lol, I don't know who would possibly do that. 🤣

19 Mar 2026 22:10:39
Neither do I. btw, my thanks to Kaiser and his peers was meant to be heartfelt, and I wasn't meaning to be condescending, as I truly am grateful that someone does it for me, and much better than I ever could. Wife not nagging is the added bonus.

19 Mar 2026 23:25:00
Thanks, Angus. Glad we can help prevent domestics, but there's far more important jobs to be grateful for. I wasn't expecting to turn into an appreciation post, and was just having a joke.

😂 But I've worked quite a few areas, and never had anywhere like my EK run for being in the flight path of what I'm sure must be herds of flying ostriches in March / April.

20 Mar 2026 08:24:29
Kaiser, I did appreciate it, but chose to add my thanks. Probably a lot of people on here who do jobs don't get the level of appreciation that they should get. Possibly a bit odd, but it just came into my head.

Lots of room there.

Imagine EK where no-one can see out to the street as their windows are all covered in bird poo. Don't know EK, granted, so that might be a good thing. 😂

20 Mar 2026 10:35:45
Really does my head in when people look down on people doing certain jobs. They are out there working, doing their best for them and their families, so no one should be made to feel belittled. At least they're contributing, unlike some who like to sit on their arses (not talking about people who can't work, but those that can and are too lazy).

20 Mar 2026 11:37:34
Who is looking down on anyone, not seeing it in this stream.

20 Mar 2026 12:02:46
Nobody, really. Just read Angus' post about some people doing jobs that are not getting much appreciation, and I thought I would throw in my tuppence worth, as I have seen people mocked for their employment.

20 Mar 2026 12:10:48
Never seen that either, Fork. Window cleaners make some cash now, we'll certainly see some do. My friend started a window cleaning business in Bo'ness years ago, Gibson's; he has millions now. I never knew him until about ten years ago.

20 Mar 2026 12:39:13
No worries Me2. 👍
Aye Star, there's cash to be had, bud, can be lucrative with decent contract work. 👍