Rangers Banter

23 Apr 2024 23:00:27
Heard today from a source very close to first team squad to expect the majority of this summers business to come from within the SPFL. Miovski, Barron, Miller, Watson, Cameron, McCowan, Strain and Beck all scouted.

23 Apr 2024 17:29:26
At work today myself and some fellow bears were talking about cyriel dessers and how well we think he's doing and the stats he has with us 🤔We then got onto the topic of who we'd prefer between him and lawrence shankland and who we rated the better all round striker 🤔So it was pretty close between the 5 of us and who we picked, so i'm throwing the same question open on here guys 👍So who do you guys reckon is the best overall striker between cyriel dessers and lawrence shankland and if it was only a straight fight between those two, which one would you prefer to lead the line for us and be our no.9 🤔.

23 Apr 2024 19:01:11
Shankland. Far far more clinical. Dessers misses alot, terrible composure, 1 on 1s not great. Although dessers probably runs about a bit more. Hoping he moves on in the summer though.

23 Apr 2024 19:32:53
Shankland more clinical. Neither should be rangers number 9 in an ideal worl so Hopefully danilo is the player we hope he can be and that we sign another.

23 Apr 2024 19:39:21
I think Dessers is on 19 in all comps with 6 assists. He has probably played more than Shankland in terms of appearances but he rarely plays the full 90 mins so mins in pitch may be similar.
Shanks also takes penalties which inflates his stats in comparison.
I think Shankland is a better finisher though would he be as effective when playing teams who sit much deeper than when he plays for Hearts?
Personally I think Shankland all round game and link up is better but Dessers is decent at holding it up.
I’d sign Shankland to replace Roofe and would consider Miovski to replace Dessers or Danillo if price was right.

23 Apr 2024 19:47:31
Shankland better all round player for me.

23 Apr 2024 19:53:26
SPFL only:-
Shankland goal every 137 minutes.
Or a goal every 1.5 games.
3.8 shots per match.
0.7 shots on target.
17% goal conversion.
Dessers goal every 144 minutes.
Or a goal every 2.3 games.
3.0 shots per match.
1.4 shots on target.
15% goal conversion.
Shankland has more shots on goal.
Shankland has less shots on target.
But is obviously more clinical with his shots on target.
Disclaimer. The above includes penalties.
Would I spend £2-£4 million on Shankland to replace Dessers? Definitely not. I expect better.

23 Apr 2024 20:03:29
Paul86, i'm not saying for one minute that we don't need a better striker than dessers but we have to give the big fella credit here imo 🤔We should be focusing on the goals he's scored, instead of continually putting the guy down and focusing more on the chances he misses 🤔 He's most certainly not as bad a striker as some would have you believe and we've had a lot worse strikers at rangers than big dessers, over the years 🤔.

23 Apr 2024 20:10:07
Miovsky iv heard is celtic bound but shankland is a better all round striker who I'd sign to replace roofe we need 4 good forwards danilo dessers shankland and 1 other.

23 Apr 2024 20:31:32
Shankland doesn't take hearts pens anymore.

23 Apr 2024 20:43:30
Shankland All day every day.
Shanks on course to finish with 30 goals, same as last year. Shankland also does something we have been crying out for, scores goals in spl (21) and scores very regularly v celtic- 9 games 6 goals. He has played more minutes than dessers, but you can't hold that against shankland that dessers keeps being dropped for playing poorly. We are in need of a scorer like shankland that's for sure. It's similar thing to ferguson, we look down on our own for some reason, why? I will never know, as scottish players have always been the spine to our success over the years.

23 Apr 2024 20:44:15
Shankland all day long by a mile.

23 Apr 2024 20:59:56
It’s a close call between the 2 but Shankland edges it for me.
I think we need 3 strikers in the squad and preferably 1 is association or home grown for Europe.
Danilo Shankland and another.
If we can sell Dessers and sign Shankland with the proceeds, then hopefully we can find a gem in the transfer window.

23 Apr 2024 21:00:31
Dessers for me, works his ass off and runs the channels well. His hold up play has got better but still not great.

Cracking goal return this season, he probably should be on 30 with the chances he’s missed.

23 Apr 2024 21:03:25
Shankland for me, think of all the chances that we create and if they fell to Shankland pretty sure he would be on more goals, also he’s done well against them when a chance has fell his way and that’s with Hearts.
It’s all hypothetical though.

23 Apr 2024 21:15:52
Dessers wouldn't even get double figures in a Hearts team. Shankland is miles better.

23 Apr 2024 21:17:37
I think with Shankland you need to play to his strengths and I’m not sure we’d do that. Dessers presses much better but Shankland probably more of a goal scorer.

23 Apr 2024 21:39:01
Good stats mph.
If dessers took pens he would be up there with shanks in terms of goals.
Dessers is the better all round player and it’s not close in my opinion. Shankland misses chances also you would think they way some go on about him on here he scores every time he takes a shot. He doesn’t. No striker does.

We need better than both.

23 Apr 2024 21:41:06
Agree MPH, we do need a finisher but given his age I don’t think would be a great investment. We should have taken a punt when his value was lower / free.

23 apr 2024 21:59:14
not even close for me, shankland should and could have fired us to the title, imo

not even close, a far, far better player.

23 Apr 2024 22:19:37
If if if. Shankland all day.

23 Apr 2024 22:26:55
Think it's the boy Barnes Paul86.

23 Apr 2024 22:27:40
Would rather have Shankland however going forward I also think we need better then both
Shankland pace worry’s me he doesn’t look the most nimble at times? Or am I wrong on this?

23 Apr 2024 23:51:38
Shankland 21 goals in spl
Dessers 13 in spl
Shankland 3 in Europe
Dessers 1 in Europe
Shankland 9 starts v celtic 6 goals
Dessers 3 starts v celtic 0 goals
Out performing dessers basically everywhere.

24 Apr 2024 00:01:05
Teams try and play different against us to hearts.

24 Apr 2024 02:09:05
No doubt Shankland is a better striker and finisher, but Dessers work rate is far superior. The way he presses off the ball for us is second to none.

23 Apr 2024 13:08:25
@Athole

Went into the season full of hope with Beale and the new signings, got very confused very quickly trying to work out what MB's game plan was and struggled to see how the players were any type of improvement. Have enjoyed the football more since PC took over as you started to see some sort of pattern to the play.

Dessers - I'm torn here. If someone offered his goal return at the start of the season, i reckon most would of taken it. That being said, he could and should of had way more. Don't think he is good enough. That being said, he has a great character and personality to come through the way he has done.

Tav - Rate Tav highly but do firmly believe he should be getting rotated a bit more and he is not captain material. Always thought that during the winger crisis he should of been playing further up the field with Sterling behind him. In my eyes it would of been worth a shot, let him focus on his attacking, which is preety decent.

Goldson - As much as i can understand the flack he gets, stats wise, we do perform better with him than without. Though it is time for a change and to upgrade the backline.

GK - Really hope Butland stays, concenred about the 5mil release clause that was banded about but if we can keep him for another season at least that would be ideal.

Defence - May be the best in the league but it still needs upgrading. Yilmaz and Sterling for the FB's and some new CB's. Keep Soutar for Scots allocation, Balogun for squad size, injuries etc. I'd also want to be promoting a few youth players when playing some of the (No disrespect) lower teams or cups.

Mid - Needs a revamp. Jack, Lundstrom, Dowell, Matondo, Wright and Lawrence to leave for me. Just not good enough or too injury prone. Really disappointed with Raskin and hoping he can come good. Diomande looks alright and a good run will do him wonders. Liked what i seen of Cortez so hoping the injury isn't a recurring one. Unpopular opinion, i don't really rate McAusland. There's nothing wrong with him, just don't think he is up to the standard we want. Not hounding him out, he is young and there have been glimmers. Maybe ai am just missing the type of winger who runs at players. He doesn't seem to want to take a man on. If the finances allow, i'd try and get Sima in.

Strikers - Roofe needs to go. Its a shame but it is what it is. We need someone new to come in alongside Dessers and Danilho. Both i believe should be kept for rotation next season but we do need an out and out goalscorer. Not overly enamoured with the names being bandied about so far. And Silva can go back to Wolves. I have been so disappointed with him.

Overall, i didn't expect us to win the leage after MB left so being this close is a bonus. The League cup win was nice and the SC Final will be a great game. Just hoping they can keep it going till the last game and get the wins we need. I do worry that Celtic have the ability to spend money and increase the quality of their squad better than we can.

23 Apr 2024 14:07:19
I pretty balanced opinion, I'd probably agree with you on most of that. If we have Davies, Hagi, Wright, Dowell, Lawrence and Matondo I think we could get about 8m for them without really weakening the team. Those out of contract will free up some wages.

23 Apr 2024 14:07:47
Could not agree more with everything you said in that post mate.

23 Apr 2024 15:11:38
There is no release clause on butland. Major surgery hopefully in the summer. And pray we don't entertain taking silva back.

23 apr 2024 15:38:55
theres surely no way pc will have silva back after that on sunday paul, surely he's read the room.

23 Apr 2024 15:44:33
Dowell and Raskin gives absolutely nothing for players so young. Both are just not good enough. If Soutter and Gokdson stays and are still starters next season it will be 2nd place again. Time for a new captain aswell.

23 Apr 2024 16:57:01
We are saving roughly 5.5m a year on players out of contract so there are players we can get without over paying. I like barron but nowhere near amount of games ferguson had.

23 Apr 2024 17:19:56
@dekeyras- fair and balanced points bud.

Id agree with most.

I don't think any of us thought we'd be in a title race by the end of Beale's tenure but still feels extremely bitter we've seemingly thrown away a great chance to win it.

23 Apr 2024 17:27:55
Silva won't be signed.

23 Apr 2024 17:58:28
Paul86, there may or may not be a release clause for JB, BUT, if he says he wants away back down south, we can't stop him and we will be lucky to get double figures for him, imo.

23 apr 2024 18:41:42
i can't have this best defence in the league business

a large percentage of teams don't attack at ibrox, hardly attack at they're own grounds and don't have anything close to the value of talent available to rangers

add in butland, , who has made many great saves when our defence has looked amatuer, i would love to see them all replaced myself but i'm sure that won't occur,

point is we can see its not the best defence, the proof is in the near constant criticism of goldson, soutter, tav, borna, and then there's davies, and even yilmaz, who i'm still nit convinced by but he has had some decent games, but they havnt kept out celtic, benfica even motherwell and aberdeen, so not the best defence fir me, our eyes tell us much more than stats when you take everything, into account, wages, ability etc.

23 Apr 2024 20:33:20
Well its certainly not 5 mill anyway as forest bid 8 mill in jan.