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19 Oct 2026 08:45:12
Moving aside from all things Rangers here, who do we all think will win the Champions League? ๐ค I also see that it's PSG V Barcelona the morra night and really looking forward to that game it should be some game and goals aplenty in that one. ๐
I think barca are the only team that can stop PSG winning 3 Champions League's titles in a row, just my opinion. ๐ค I've actually bet barcelona to win the champions league and what a final it would be if it was Barcelona V PSG. ๐ I see it's also El Classico this Sunday Barcelona V Real Madrid. ๐ Can only really see one outcome in that one with again a few goals to enjoy ๐.
19 Oct 2026 09:31:14
Never rule out Real Madrid. Barcelona and PSG are the two best teams at the moment, but the Champions League will always be synonymous with Real Madrid.
19 Oct 2026 11:38:54
PSG are best by a country mile, Great achievement if they win 3 on bounce.
19 Oct 2026 11:47:12
The winner the mawra wins the champions league for me.
19 Oct 2026 12:11:06
And everyone of them in debt up to their eyeballs likely and living above their means.
19 Oct 2026 12:16:22
The big teams start going on a roll after Christmas , that's the time you can usually tell who is going to win things.
19 Oct 2026 12:51:58
Barcelona are a fantastic team. their youth model is second to none. I hope this is their year. The game tomorrow means nothing as it is only a group game and both teams have plenty more group games to qualify but it should be a great watch.
Barcelona may have one eye on the Real Madrid game because if they win that then I think they are 9 points clear which I think even at this early stage, the league would be wrapped up.
19 Oct 2026 14:20:40
Totally Every Saturday, ๐ Barcelona have the best youth academy for me in world football it's called 'la maisia' i believe ๐I fancy barca to beat Real Madrid on sunday at Camp Nou by 2 clear goals and i'm putting money on barca -2 goals ๐คThey will have too much for Real Madrid imho ๐ค.
19 Oct 2026 15:00:50
Man City๐๐ค๐
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19 Oct 2026 15:09:24
Got to fancy Barca or PSG to win the UCL but you can never rule out Real Madrid but this season it might be a step too far for them.
Think the difference might be Lamal, and Raphina which might just give them the edge offensively and add four Spanish internationals in Rodri, Pedri, Olmo, and Cubarsi.
Tough one to call to be honest.
19 Oct 2026 16:10:11
Hala Madrid!
Write them off at your Peril!
19 Oct 2026 17:21:48
Foolmonty, i assume you think Real Madrid will beat Barcelona at the camp nou this sunday ๐คI just can't see it mate and i fancy Barca to win by at least 2 goals and that's what my bet will be barca -2๐คMy score prediction is Barcelona 4 Real Madrid 1 ๐ค.
19 Oct 2026 18:08:24
It's feckin Nou Camp๐ not Camp Nou๐คฎ don't care how many commentators or pundits say it.
19 Oct 2026 18:37:49
Camp Nou Fork ๐คช.
19 Oct 2026 19:34:14
After yesterday surely it's Separate Entity Fc๐ฅด.
19 Oct 2026 19:39:42
Lol Coops๐๐.
19 Oct 2026 07:39:12
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18 Oct 2026 15:31:48
Last night proved one thing for me. We still have an inability to unlock tight defences as the dominant team.
Fernandez and Neil far too slow and cannot seem to adapt mid game.
Gassama far too one dimensional.
We do not have a playmaking 10 so that position is completely innefective.
I think it was correct to change it up a little as we need to have more than one effective formula.
I have put a mock team and set up I would like to see in the debates section.
McInnes has done many things correct but last night was identical to the start of the season that seen us put out of Europe and start the league campaign slow.
I personally would be looking to offload Bojan Miovski at the earliest opportunity.
It has not worked out and he offers very little.
I honestly would recommend Daniel Karlsbakk as his replacement.
I think he has all the attributes needed to play alongside the other forwards as well as lead the line with his back to goal.
Friends have a good day and let's hope Hearts can help us lessen the gap.
18 Oct 2026 15:56:28
Agree NATO, also thought Fernandez destabilised the whole defensive unit and created a nervousness throughout the team. Naderi needs a strike partner to play off and Gassama needs to remember he had 10 teammates he is allowed to pass the ball to.
18 Oct 2026 16:07:08
Sorry mate but the change up was wrong imo, I think the scoreline tells you that, we were dreadful in that first half, could tell they just weren't used to playing that way. One of our biggest threats Naderi was a shadow of himself playing up there alone.
This nonsense of not any Celtic players gets in our squad has been spoken off far to early again, just like the last 5/6 seasons, same ones saying it season after season.
A bit of pressure comes our way to go top, we blow it as always, that lot go out and absolutely blitz hearts, they know exactly how to beat the lesser teams.
18 Oct 2026 16:10:48
Miovski has hardly had a run of games for that kind of comment.
18 Oct 2026 16:10:59
We don't need fancy football. We need to move it faster, keep getting the ball in the box, get bodies in the box and let opposition defenders make mistakes. We don't score enough easy goals or goals from set pieces. Oh. and run for 90+ minutes in every game. Starting from minute one. Easy. Stop thinking we are miles better than everyone else but use the fact we are a little bit better than everyone else then match them in concentration and work rate.
It has been a Rangers trait for as long as I can remember that we cannot go on extended winnings runs. We always seem to drop points when not expected despite playing well enough to win. We need to drop this arrogance and realise what it takes to win. More than football.
18 Oct 2026 16:24:35
Tbh last night was on McInnes. We played the straight ball to nadiri that doesn't work v hardier defences. I personally think Nadiri needs played against teams that play out through their defense.
His substitutes took the 2 best players off not sure why. Dan Neil is not effective yet against low blocks surely the dragon should have had a try boy loves a dig from distance.
That performance has to been out season so far bar Celtic games. We go again ๐ฌ๐ง.
18 Oct 2026 16:58:04
NATO my dear friend, in the second half we unblocked their defence several times and the Dundee keeper had some very good saves in the game i seen anyway ๐คIt was for me the wrong subs made by McInnes and the terrible dan neil mistake that cost us the 3 points because in that second half we had more than enough chances to have put the game to bed ๐ค๐ฌ๐ง.
18 Oct 2026 17:00:46
Cannot comment on Mivoski as he's never really had a run of games albeit he hasn't look great when he's played. Fernandez is a bomb scare- it seems that he could command a decent transfer fee then take it in January.
Dan Neill looks a very average player to me, nothing near the quality of Raskin. We're a long way from being a good team- it's no good beating Celtic if we struggle to beat the others.
18 Oct 2026 17:06:04
Don't think we dropped points due to a lack of chances created, it's the finishing of said chances that was the issue.
18 Oct 2026 17:15:16
I am with you on that Walter, thought the only time we looked good was when Dundee were sitting deeper. Thought we created a lot during that spell.
Our pressing for me was the main issue in first half with Kim in particular but also wide players not high enough to put them under pressure. On the flip side I think Dundee got their pressing spot on.
We have done well recently but we are still a young team who will have difficult periods in games. It's all about learning from and responding to these type of games.
We also need more numbers from Kim and Gassama, both playing well at times but neither look like scoring despite getting plenty of chances.
Despite all this, no soft goals and it's an easy 3 points and up the road.
18 Oct 2026 17:26:22
They blow Hearts away that after a midweek humping and a meltdown again we are getting suckered into mind games we did think we would be top of the league again we are playing catch up.
18 Oct 2026 17:27:03
BB4 absolutely spot on, too many getting carried away by a few decent results.
Why he felt the need to change yesterday from what had worked is beggars belief.
Compounded by them lot absolutely skelping Hearts, which will only help them build confidence. It's fine beating them but we need to beat the lesser teams and by all accounts (I missed the game) Dundee should have been out of sight that first half.
18 Oct 2026 18:29:45
NATO I think the biggest culprit slowing things down is Pandur. He stands with the ball until it's too late to pass it to anyone then humps it up the park for it to come straight back.
Hopefully Bouanani can provide a danger on the right and Minsu-Kim can provide a link up with both.
18 Oct 2026 18:47:21
Pandur is quality for me Bathgate_bear so not for me mate ๐ค.
18 Oct 2026 19:47:09
Bbj your right people go over the top after a few good results but be careful to not do the same after one bad result.
18 Oct 2026 20:16:28
Sir Walter I like Pandur as a goalkeeper but when his job is to integrate possession then he's slows it down too much for me.
He did the same last night and just launched it when he could have continued the momentum by passing it quicker.
18 Oct 2026 20:35:23
There is barely anyone bar about 14 players getting anywhere near enough regular football. Its going to end up blowing up in our face when we get more injuries and people come in from the cold not match fit.
I think the next match would be a good time to put Gassama on the bench.
At least bounanani can cross and shoot Gassama can do neither. Him & kim attacking from the sides would be good for me and bring Kelsy back in.
Id like to see Godfrey get some minutes for Fernandez too. Wont be long before a lot of the squad are unhappy imo.
18 Oct 2026 21:16:27
Big dado that is why I said it was the correct decision to change things up.
You cannot expect players to have an impact or be match sharp if you continue to only select the same players.
18 Oct 2026 21:26:55
My tuppence , it could easily have been 2-6 at least , many times we were unlucky and Dundee never stopped working but it was bad fortune that beat us imo , and Pandur is a fantastic signing.
19 Oct 2026 00:39:01
Said same about Pandur on live chat, slow the game down to much.
Look at good teams they move ball quickly , but we just pass about at back, then launch ball forward or get caught out.
19 Oct 2026 06:11:40
The dragon?
19 Oct 2026 08:30:56
We dropped points because of a couple of bad mistakes and failure to take chances , no player suddenly terrible or worth a hundred million either , we move on to next week.
19 Oct 2026 09:00:12
Having said that I'm of the belief that we really need to use the selling high plan well this year, I would like to see Fernandez and Makanya sold at premium price, they are far from infallible and now is the time to offload and replace with one or two guys who understand the need for winning, and find the next Makanya for next season, we mustn't allow anything to distract from the model, while also keeping our team ready and willing, both were poor imho last night and I worry about winter nights ahead but maybe they will surprise us, whatever we need to start bringing in serious cash soon imo.
19 Oct 2026 09:05:50
If pandur is holding the ball then the players. In front of him ain't moving like they should be, he's looking for a break from someone, players usually decide what a keeper's going to do with the ball, our midfield haven't been great on movement in a long time, I certainly wouldn't be blaming the keeper.
19 Oct 2026 12:54:10
NATO
How can it be correct to change it up a little if we never won? bizarre.
19 Oct 2026 13:39:56
It is correct for the reasons i have stated on multiple posts.
We need to have more than one successful format to win the league.
We also need to better utilize the squad during rotation so we are not overly reliant on the same 11-14 players each and every match.
Football is a squad game and we need around 20 match sharp players to carry us throughout the season.
19 Oct 2026 15:10:32
One thing I noticed was every time Pandur went long, Naderi hardly won a knock on ball.
19 Oct 2026 16:33:15
NATO
we never won the game so the reasons that you said are not correct, they are wrong.
if we won the game then fair enough.
19 Oct 2026 18:25:34
Pander will hold the ball until one of the opposition press moves towards him it either gives u the man spare or he go long to Nadri or Kelsey who have better chance of retaining the ball as opposition midfield moved further up park , if you ever watched the Argentina goalie who was at Villa ( Chelsea now ) he could stand on the ball for over a minute until he was approached , terrible to watch for neutral but reasons for it.
19 Oct 2026 18:43:30
Drawing the match does not make it wrong.
We never won due to player performances.
Sterling, Fernandez, Neil.
Completely at fault for the goals conceded therefore hold a large responsibility for the dropped points.
All we're played in previous matches and would have played in an unchanged side.
Bouanani - the only change scored the equalising goal.
So now tell me why it was wrong to change it up and what would have prevented the three players named as culpable for goals conceded making the exact same errors if McInnes had not changed it up.
19 Oct 2026 18:56:38
We scored two goals away from home, which should have been enough for 3 points.
Our set up and system was actually okay, as it showed when the team applied it properly in phases of the game.
Unfortunately defensively we were really poor and gifted them two goals through basic errors.
19 Oct 2026 21:04:46
Disagree on this EHL nadiri was the wrong option. Min su Kim whole first half too far away from Nadiri 2nd half sorted it. Didn't flood the box at the right times.
Took off 2 best players
If ever there was a game for a pure finisher this was it.
Id also like to see Godfrey and Makanya take the heat off Fernandez.
19 Oct 2026 21:57:42
Usual with us 1 step forward 2 steps back
18 Oct 2026 13:53:04
That Dan Neil error gets worse every time you see it.
2-1 up away from home is when all players, but especially our leaders on the park need to be switched on.
Complacency costs points.
18 Oct 2026 13:58:35
Really don't rate him. Surely we have someone else to. challenge him.
18 Oct 2026 14:09:46
Sterling and Ferdandez for the first, then Fernandez and Neil for the second.
Same group of players who cost us dearly at the start of the season.
18 Oct 2026 14:10:15
The desire he showed to win the ball back on that occasion and on another during the game when he gave the ball away needs working on. Simply bending over and putting your hands on your knees is what you would expect to see in the male sauna, not on a football pitch when you should be busting a gut to win the ball back and rectify your mistake.
18 Oct 2026 14:39:45
When did Sterling cost us at the beginning of the season, EHL? ๐ค๐ฌ๐ง.
18 Oct 2026 14:51:43
Three Cheers - what kind of saunas are you going to?
18 Oct 2026 15:01:19
Raskin also not totally blameless for the 2nd goal.
18 Oct 2026 15:01:45
Sir walter, Dundee United very 1st game.
18 Oct 2026 15:02:23
Bit harsh on Fernandes for the second, when you look back I was thinking where is he going, so understand the criticism but his teammate sold the jersey on that one. 99% Neil, 1% Fernandez for me.
Agree first one, both share blame as neither alert enough to deal with a nothing ball. We done a lot of that in first half but overall we have been good defensively, still some credit in bank imo.
18 Oct 2026 15:19:54
Good point in regards Raskin's contribution to their equaliser. a bit of a hospital pass although Neil needs, to more alert to his surroundings.
18 Oct 2026 15:41:47
Walter first game of season.
18 Oct 2026 15:43:44
Second half we were better but unfortunately the slip by Neil cost us the 3pts.
We have had a decent run of results up until last night v Dundee, but maybe it's time to start Kim at LW, and Dragojevic alongside Raskin, and Kelsy upfront.
18 Oct 2026 16:13:36
Score more goals and these mistakes don't matter - and opposition stop chasing us down. Should be on the front foot.
18 Oct 2026 16:24:38
Second goal-
Fernandez should play the ball forward rather than inviting them on top of us.
Raskin receives the ball and should pass to the keeper rather than Neil who had a player on top of him in a flash.
Ultimately Neil slips and makes a huge mistake to concede the goal but all 3 players sleeping.
Easy to diagnose on hindsight though.
18 Oct 2026 17:32:26
Neil is way overated, should be nowhere near team & fact he is captain makes it worse, he lose ball on numerous occasions or does not find pass & he looks around as if it is someone else's fault, still lack of leadership on field no-one taking responsibility, as for Sterling as good as defender he is, he is certainly not an overlapping FB.
Gassama another who does not offer enough how many times does he take on FB & get past him & put in decent cross.
18 Oct 2026 18:33:57
EHL can you give me your opinions on Kelsey & Naderi. I'm struggling to see why we've invested so much in them.
Naderi's work rate is phenomenal but I don't see the ball control required.
Kelsey hasn't impressed me either but people were raving when we got him.
I'm maybe missing the obvious but can you enlighten me what your knowledgeable perception is.
18 Oct 2026 21:32:10
This seasons scapegoat , Fernandez . Raskin gives an ill advised pass to Neil who makes an arse of passing it back to Pandur but somehow that's Fernandez fault .Last season Tav got the blame for every goal , before that it was Goldson now its Fernandez.
We always risk this when we play out from the back and Fernandez has done it in the past no denying that but this one was down to Neil , nobody else .By the way that doesn't make him a bad player and not worthy of playing for Rangers he just made a mistake like many better players than him have done n the past.
18 Oct 2026 22:20:41
Am losing patience with Fernandez , ball pace and decision making far to slow.
19 Oct 2026 00:25:20
Blue
Think Sterling, now fit, stand out captain.
19 Oct 2026 19:02:33
I think Fernandez is partially culpable for the second as the purpose of Raskin dropping deep isn't to receive a pass.
The way McInnes set the team up, this is a trigger to free Fernandez to take a risk, knowing he has defensive cover. So he's either suppose to drive forward or play the ball forward.
By passing the ball back, he kills the forward momentum of our attack and invites Dundee forward. As a result Neil has to drop deep to get on the ball - which isolates him from the forward players (a real theme from the start of the season) and it encourages the press from Dundee.
If calling him out for his repeated error makes him a scapegoat, so be it.
19 Oct 2026 19:19:24
The goal was Neils fault , all he had to do was play it back to Pandur and he couldn't do it . that's his fault . There is no way it was Fernandez fault unless you're doing the old Kevin Bacon thing and tracing every goal we lose back to the last time Fernandez touches the ball .Killies goal was Fernandez fault for going up for the corner , Falkirks goal was Fernandez fault for not marking Nedeljkovic tight enough, Hibs penalty was Fernandez fault for not stopping Dragojevic giving away a stupid foul and the second was Fernandez fault for not anticipating the deflection off Rommens and covering the post to clear it , although to be fair Dundee Utds goal was genuinely Fernandez fault .
19 Oct 2026 21:29:21
So much for a sensible debate.
18 Oct 2026 11:57:22
Hi,
Thought Rangers were a bit slow trying to go forward in the first half, and Naderi was isolated up front, Dundee are a club on the up.
The 2nd half we looked a lot better and went at them quicker and we should have won the game.
We gave away two poor goals, but scored two great goals, Raskin showed again why we need him to stay.
18 Oct 2026 13:19:24
I agree with going forward part, thought the 3 alongside Nadieri were far too deep the whole half. I also thought Dundee front 2 gave our CHs a torrid time, they did not handle it well. We also lacked intensity with Dundee getting first contact and second balls all half.
But the soft goals, like you say, are what cost us points. We have not been doing that in recent games so I am hoping it's a blip rather than a pattern emerging. Was disappointing because we scored a couple of belters to put us in a position to win after a terrible first half.
We ended a 7 match winning run, all about how we react to that and get on a new winning run.
18 Oct 2026 13:27:09
Last year or that we would of lost that game that was a hard point to win we are doing well but we can't depend on that lot dropping points we can clearly do well.
18 Oct 2026 14:03:04
After we went in front complacency crept in thinking game was won that when your captain needs to be driving his team on yes you can hear the bottle merchants cry allready we need to move on and learn from this.
18 Oct 2026 10:34:01
Key is not to get over excited with good wins, and no to go overboard with doom and gloom with a draw or a loss! This squad very patchy i think other than the Old Firm games.
WeVe struggled to put full 90 mins performance. Kim su on his day looks class act. got to remember he's only 20! If we had a 20 year old out of the academy like him, we'd be raving about him.
18 Oct 2026 12:53:09
100% mate. Well said. We as a fanbase are guilty of both my self included. Long season and our rivals aren't going to win every single game between now and the next old firm. Calm heads prevail.
18 Oct 2026 13:55:35
You could be right, Wishy.
But so far they have won 7 from 8.
We've dropped points in Dundee twice.
And lost at home to a terrible Hibs side.
Last night was all about keeping the pressure on them and we failed in that respect.
18 Oct 2026 14:59:06
We failed to put the game to bed should have started with Naderi and Kelsy as previous games. don't know what DMc was thinking with that line up.
18 Oct 2026 15:40:16
Dundee United and Hibs feels like a completely different team to the one we have now mate so many more players have came in so hard to judge them on that. Yesterday was the first real slip since the window closed.
We need to make sure we bounce back right away and go on another run. We must win this league cup no excuses they need to prove that they have the bottle to win when it matters most.
18 Oct 2026 18:13:49
Gary Stevens, some on here were actually gloating that they forecast the team that was chosen, obviously with no thought to the dangers of changing a winning side.
18 Oct 2026 09:56:09
Time to digest. I thought that was a real tough place to go. I am not saying its ok to drop points but I thought for a long spell in the second half we played some great stuff. I think Bounanni could be a real game changer for us this season.
My second take away was that if we are going to play Bounanni it may be better to have a full back with a better delivery into the box , several times he slid Sterling in and his delivery is possibly the worst I have ever seen.
I think Dujon has had a good start to the season but his performance last night had me remembering why I would have been happy for him to leave in the summer.
18 Oct 2026 10:25:49
Thought Bouanani was good but so one footed. If we play him like that then yes we need a better than Sterling overlapping. Sterling much better defensively but not going forward.
18 Oct 2026 13:33:06
Kaiser, the late great davie Cooper was so one footed, but what a foot it was ๐๐ฌ๐ง.
18 Oct 2026 13:51:45
And that's also why Cooper played on the left. And he was a genius. Point was if playing him on the right we need a better player overlapping.
18 Oct 2026 14:44:19
Kaiser, for the last time maybe, Sterling is the best right back in Scottish football ๐ค๐ฌ๐ง.
18 Oct 2026 19:15:20
Defensively yes but not in an attacking sense he's not.
19 Oct 2026 08:18:54
wouldnt even say defensively, if he is the best in Scotland then the rest are really poor.
who would you prefer, Sterling in his prime or Tav in his prime, i know my answer and even Tav in his prime took it in the neck.
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