Rangers Debates

24 Mar 2026 21:01:32
Hi guys looking for a wee bit of information what was gers points total on 33 games pre split las season.

24 Mar 2026 22:27:24
66 points, I believe, SB12.

24 Mar 2026 22:42:45
Correct, bbj, it was 66. Had to check though. 😉 We can get 69 this season if we win last 2. No point, just a fact. Wouldn't have got us anywhere near title last few seasons. Shows how far Celtic have fallen.

24 Mar 2026 23:17:47
They are so far off what they usually are, and I, for one, am delighted. :)

25 Mar 2026 08:02:37
I agree. We wouldn't be in it if they weren't, but every team has a natural down point, and unless you continually refresh (not rebuild) then you eventually go over the curve.

I was surprised to see we were around the same mark, though, given all our draws and Russell Martin.

24 Mar 2026 13:49:39
Naderi should be our #1 striker. there are quite a few players who can give him back up in the area. that includes Aasgaard, Chermiti, Moore, Gassama, olsen, Antman, Miovski and Bajrami. but for me Gassama always on the left wing and Naderi always a striker. that's why he was signed if i remember correctly.

24 Mar 2026 16:05:07
Fever, so u want our no1 striker to b someone who has yet to score a league goal.

24 Mar 2026 16:44:37
What if he is already seen as our number 1 striker by Rohl, or both are considered equal? How do you know who is the number 1 striker? It seems you are saying the furthest forward is number 1 when that might not be the case.



As John says, he hasn't scored yet despite fans on here saying he gets in better positions. Surely that makes him worse?

24 Mar 2026 17:00:23
His hold up play and effort is better than Chermiti.

24 Mar 2026 17:12:01
I see Chermiti as a level up from Naderi right now, Trevor, definitely a better footballer imo.

24 Mar 2026 18:34:58
Trevor Naderi's pass success on Saturday was under 67%, Chermiti's was 86%, so he may hold it up better (possibly?), but he doesn't find a Rangers player when he lays it off.
In their time at Rangers, Chermiti is still 3% better over much more games (and that includes under Martin), at 66 to 63%.



Chermiti wins 62% of his aerial duels whilst Naderi wins 40%.

Stats for running aren't available in SPL, so can't comment.

So, the stats (ignoring goals scored) suggest that Chermiti is actually more effective than Naderi.

Don't let the facts get in the way of an opinion though.

24 Mar 2026 19:22:49
You angling 🎣 for a job with the BBC, hope you paid your licence.

24 Mar 2026 19:40:04
The mark of the beast ⬆️ in posts, up there. 😇

24 Mar 2026 19:45:34
My star and Angus I bow to your statistics. 👍

24 Mar 2026 19:52:28
I ain't saying Naderi should be main focal point, but there was a massive debate on the other page about Chermiti John, you said he scores in big games. He didn't score in the cup game, that was a big game. He didn't score in the last two league games that were big games, granted we won, but they were still big games, like the next 7 are. I ain't hating on the guy, I had said he is improving, but his goals at this stage aren't good enough and never will be for a number one striker at Rangers. Dessers 52 goals in two seasons wasn't good enough for number one striker, so how is 9 now acceptable?

Also, the excuses are getting worse time they are getting asked to drop deep to make space etc.

How do people know this? They don't, the same way as I don't know they are getting told that.

Angus, why do you use stats when it suits your argument, but when they don't you say stats ain't all that?

For Rangers striker, the main stat that matters most by far is goals, and none of our strikers have done it.

I'll say it again, if they could score the league would be over by now and we wouldn't have drawn 12 games.

Also, don't come back with others need to score also, as I have always said that too.

24 Mar 2026 19:58:00
Careful Storm, you've formed an opinion, don't think you're allowed to have one, mate. 😇👍

24 Mar 2026 20:10:00
Storm, I have my opinion on Chermiti and I'll stick to it, at no time have I ever mentioned him dropping deep.

My opinion, he needs to score more, but at present he is best we have.

24 Mar 2026 20:24:18
Fork, that isn't true, but I suspect you are stirring it with the angel halo.

He is allowed to have one; he just doesn't normally spout one; just has a dig at posters or agrees with others. I also choose to challenge the obvious posts where they don't make sense. My opinion is surely allowed to be made as well though, and even if it isn't I am going to. 😉

Storm, I think that anyone who reads my posts will know I use stats all the time to prove both sides of a discussion depending on what I think. So yes I do use stats to back my opinion. Why would I not? I could just constantly spout that the strikers don't score enough, which is bl**dy obvious, and I agree with. I am trying to think why they play that way.

The main stat for fans, it seems, is goals for strikers; well some anyway.

The main stats for the manager, the club, Andrew Cavenagh, me, and a good few other fans will be results and whether we win the league. I can't see anyone at the club saying about last Saturday. Yes, we won 4-1 but a striker didn't score. Yet fans have gone on and on about it since.

btw, when someone says he scores in the big games, they don't literally mean in every big game.

But ask yourself why Rohl continues to play Chermiti at all. That is the easy one, possibly. So then ask why he continues to allow him to play the way he does, by dropping deep and not getting into the box. And then ask yourself if it could be because that is the way he wants him to play.

24 Mar 2026 20:25:59
Sorry, hit send too early and not sure if I put this, but good enough evidence to use twice re dropping deep; it comes from what Rohl says:

"A striker can play on the last line in the box, but he is also a link player between the lines.

When he drops, he creates a lot of spaces for teammates. This is really great."

So, he views the striker's role as a tool to manipulate the opposition's defensive structure rather than just a fixed point in the box.

Who am I to argue with him. 🤷

24 Mar 2026 20:29:24
Me? Stirring it, nah wrong guy. 🤫

24 Mar 2026 20:37:49
Yes, I know. Little Lord Fauntleroy of Rangers Rumours. 😉

Sorry, Storm, as well. It reads a bit snarky, and I possibly was, but it wasn't meant with any bad feeling towards you. It is just that there are a limited amount of ways I can say what I am saying, but want to give the poster a reply. 🤷

24 Mar 2026 20:41:52
Arsenal's top goal scoring centre forward has scored 11 goals this season.

24 Mar 2026 20:44:31
Are replies allowed now, when did that happen? 😉 👍

24 Mar 2026 20:47:11
I'm only interested in the league this season, if Naderi and Chermiti only score 15 goals between them, and we do win it, that won't enter my head when I'm celebrating.

24 Mar 2026 21:20:56
Fork, you are right as it's getting that way on here from the select few. It really is getting boring, same people replying the same rubbish you have already heard.

Angus, that's a totally lie that I just agree with others or dig I put opinions on all the time and agreeing with someone is also an opinion. I don't write war and peace like you and others to basically say what another poster has already said when I can just say I agree. 👍

Angus, you don't use stats both ways either.

Angus, you post a lot of blah when it doesn't need to be that long and I aren't having a go, I just get bored very easily reading big posts.

How do you know Rohl is asking him to drop deep all the time? You don't, so please stop saying it like you do.
He isn't a goalscorer, will never be a goalscorer imo and we need our strikers to score more, plain and simple.


It's just excuse making for the sake of it.

Ms, you only care about Rangers in the league but then quote how many goals an Arsenal striker has scored. 🤣 Absolutely brilliant, there is no end to your talent. 🤦‍♂️
What happened to your famous saying you don't care what happens at other clubs? 🥵

John, I never said you did about him dropping deep I was talking about scoring in the big games.

Angus, we shouldn't say he scores in the big games then if he actually doesn't all the time.


Last, I am going to say on this as I ain't going round in circles like a few of you love to do on here. He probably is the best we have right now but that is a sad state of affairs that our 3 strikers we have spanked over 15 million on can't score goals.

24 Mar 2026 22:11:14
Chermiti could become a very good goalscorer. Some obviously can't understand he's in his first proper season. Rakes of young centre forwards never even scored what he has in the first season. League is all that matters. He scores a dozen and we win it, that works for me.

Arsenal was used because they have a cf with a couple of more goals than Chermiti, and very likely they will win the league.

He is clearly getting used the way his manager wants him playing, or he wouldn't believe in the team, surely that can be hard understanding.

24 Mar 2026 22:24:44
Best example who is imo, the best cf in the world right now, Harry Kane, go look at his early career stats, has a good few loans, he never hit double figures once.

24 Mar 2026 22:52:33
It would seem that opinions are only welcomed if they meet with what fans are saying in criticising the team we support. It seems okay for that voice to put the same points across in every email without it being an issue. It is only when someone tries to put an opposite view.

I never say I know what Rohl thinks, but that if he didn't want it to happen he would either drop players or stop them from doing what they do. I put forward that if he isn't doing that then he must at least accept it is okay.

And sorry, you can't say that players don't score in big games unless they score in every big game.

Do you really think that? So if he doesn't score in all the games versus the smaller teams, can we not say that either? Wow, just wow.

It is a sad state of affairs that we have a team who are possibly in a position to go top at the weekend despite our strikers not scoring and all some fans do is complain. If it wasn't strikers then it is Tav or Butland.

Btw just a thought:
A fan is an admirer who enjoys watching a team for entertainment and follows them, often conditionally based on success. A supporter is deeply committed, offering loyal support regardless of results.

24 Mar 2026 22:59:09
Fork, I understand your point, but since this is an open forum, anyone is welcome to weigh in. Ultimately, the editors have the final say on what gets published; it's out of our hands. I personally enjoy the back-and-forth of a good discussion, but because some of us hold different views, it sometimes feels like there's a bit of pushback there more so than the consensus.



Going to give it a miss now as it does get a bit wearing when all it is meant to be is a bit of fun. Sometimes I have to really try to remember we support the same team.

25 Mar 2026 06:22:26
You say pushback, I say an opinion that differs. When an opinion is different from "some", it leads to a barrage of posts. These posts that are fired out 2 or 3 at a time, are they trying to convince themselves that they are right, and the other persons' perspectives don't enter into it? That's how it appears from 'some'.

You say it's an open forum and anyone can weigh in, I disagree, it's a forum where you offer a perspective, and it gets castigated when it doesn't fit others' narratives, as they think theirs is the only one that matters. It's not, there's room for both sides, it's time "some" learned that.

23 Mar 2026 17:09:54
i would just like to say hello everybody i'm home again safe and well although my wee liver took an absolute tanking, and it's not a bad looking table to come home to, haha because i'm not telling lies that Rangers were never really in my thoughts on holiday but now i'm back in Scotland they are.
Cheers everyone 🥃😄.

23 Mar 2026 18:12:04
Welcome back. Three cheers.

23 Mar 2026 19:40:21
Great to have you back, cheers.

23 Mar 2026 19:49:33
Welcome home bud. 👍

23 Mar 2026 21:11:19
Welcome back.

23 Mar 2026 21:11:25
There he is, welcome back mad yin. 👍

24 Mar 2026 04:44:49
Glad having you back, Three Cheers. 🍻

24 Mar 2026 10:40:42
Three Cheers, welcome back. 🇦🇺🇬🇧

24 Mar 2026 12:28:14
Were you away, Three Cheers??? We never noticed. 😁

24 Mar 2026 13:07:29
Athole, I was going to say the same but just thought nobody would be that cruel to say it. 😂😂

btw, Three Cheers, welcome back. 👍

24 Mar 2026 13:59:28
Welcome back, bud.

24 Mar 2026 16:47:38
Great to see you back Baldy. How many odd socks are you coming back with, bud? 🦶

24 Mar 2026 23:37:31
Thanks people, it's good to be back. Cheers. 🥃

Big Nose, I have come back with zero odd socks, not because I was careful this time but because I came back only wearing the clothes on my back haha all my gear is currently sitting in Beijing. They never put my bag on the plane in China, and I should have it back next week, fingers crossed.

Every cloud has a silver lining, right enough, and at least yesterday I never needed to humph a big bag of dirty washing around the pubs in Glasgow with me. Who knows, maybe they will put it in a Chinese laundry first before they send it back to me.

22 Mar 2026 18:34:22
This is when DR can take his career portfolio up a notch by sealing #56. All the hard work has been done by him and his staff under the most difficult of situations after Martin packed his bags. Now its time to put the icing on the cake. He must know that winning this title will put him in the status of being a wanted man down south just like Ange was. changing the subject to Naderi and Chermiti. I like Naderi a lot. Chermiti I go in intervals much like his goals. Miovski did himself no harm with that cute finish yesterday.

Maybe time to try them both as strikers and Chermiti as an impact sub. he does have those big time moments but they are few and far between - we should get at least 15-20 M in the summer for him. Take it and run along with Aasgaard and olsen --Gassama has potential but only on the left much like kent had. This summer will be a huge window especially if we are in the CL. Christmas came early today. enjoy it lads and ladies.

22 Mar 2026 19:37:35
Deecee, do you really think someone is going to pay £15-20M for a player you only see as good enough to be an impact sub?
Perhaps someone sees what else he adds to the team, like Danny Rohl does, which is possibly why he continues to start him ahead of Miovski.

22 Mar 2026 21:06:06
I'd try Miovski and Naderi too.

I think Chermiti is a good player and will get even better next season for us, but I'd like to try Naderi's work rate with Miovski's poaching style.

22 Mar 2026 21:46:20
Really like what I'm seeing from Naderi, but not a chance I'm talking Chermiti out of my team for him. Chermiti is a level above him.

22 Mar 2026 22:27:30
I'd equally try Chermiti and Miovski, mate.

We need to find a best solution in partnerships and not just play the ones who cost the most or are in more wages etc.

22 Mar 2026 22:47:38
Stevie, I actually believe Chermiti and Naderi will be a cracking partnership very soon, mate, both cover some ground, both very good with the ball on the deck.

23 Mar 2026 00:04:11
I like both of them too, mate. I just feel they're both workhorse strikers and we need something different to complement them.

Don't know if that's a Boyd or a Novo type. Above my pay grade, but we need something different as an option that we currently don't have.

23 Mar 2026 00:27:30
Say Naderi is more of a workhorse, Stevie, just loving big Chermiti, mate.

23 Mar 2026 06:29:24
15-20m for an impact sub? In Scotland? How do you get to that figure?

23 Mar 2026 07:22:30
He's not a level up, he may be later, but he isn't just now, and I like him. Naderi does more for the team as I said earlier.

23 Mar 2026 08:02:21
Fork, cool, I'm saying he's a level up, level up on ability, you think not, which is fair play, I'm thinking a younger player with more ability right now.

23 Mar 2026 08:20:21
Both strikers must do more for the team though, otherwise Rohl would be starting Miovski, wouldn't he?
We're trying to pick a team and criticise tactics without knowing the manager's actual plan.

Is he asking strikers to drop deep to create midfield overloads? I know centre-halves hate it when they have nobody to mark, so is the goal to create confusion and leave space for players like Moore to exploit? If that isn't the plan, why isn't Rohl fixing it? Why isn't he on the sidelines screaming for them to get further forward?

23 Mar 2026 08:29:19
Who is critical of tactics? Both work for the team, as I've said all along. Naderi does more, imo.

23 Mar 2026 08:44:14
Fork, my comment about the team was a general thought, not a dig at you or anyone else with a different view.
Also, in case you haven't seen it, the BBC lineups now let you click players for individual stats. Naderi had a shot on target and an assist, but his passing was lower and he only won 1 out of 3 tackles.

Stat-wise, he and Chermiti were actually pretty similar - they might work well as a pair, but the data doesn't really show Naderi doing 'more'. It's a shame the SPL doesn't track distance covered; I'd love to see if Chermiti actually is 'lazy' like some people say.

23 Mar 2026 08:53:37
Could turn out a great partnership, Angus, that only improves with game time.

23 Mar 2026 08:58:45
I'm talking in general terms, Angus, Naderi has, imo, done more for the team since he's been starting, emphasis on the team. Both lack goals, consistency and positional sense, as our revered striker reminds us. Not arguing with him on that.

Both gd players, but not all that as some say, not yet anyway, imo. Getting ridiculous in here, you're not allowed a differing opinion without a brow beating if you deign to offer a different perspective.

23 Mar 2026 09:03:22
Fork, Clearly you must see that is my opinion, I ain't trying to change anyone's opinion.

23 Mar 2026 09:08:12
Answered on the other stream.

23 Mar 2026 09:20:29
Fork, sorry if it appears a brow beating as that wasn't my intention. I like a debate on football and only replied earlier as you seemed to take my post on tactics as a personal slight.



Not saying you aren't right about Naderi doing more, just showing a new place for stats and what they said. You know how I like a good stat. ; )

I will gracefully bow out of the chat here though.

23 Mar 2026 16:53:38
Star, I hope they click very soon. Happens for our next league game; we need our strikers scoring goals. D.Utd at Ibrox would be a chance to see Miovsky, who had more shots on target in his small cameo than the other 2. I get Naderi is a worker for the team, so why not try him and Miovsky?

23 Mar 2026 18:14:30
OWS, he had same shots as Naderi (two) if you count the one chopped off. And the same as Chermiti (one) if you don't. Get what you mean though in that he didn't have a lot of time. But the other two had tired the Dons out first for him though. 😂 All figures from BBC, btw.

23 Mar 2026 21:12:04
If our strikers scored more goals, we would be walking this league.

22 Mar 2026 14:51:58
I love that song, Beautiful Sunday great wee song. If we win on April 3 we go 5 ahead of them and top of the table. The fixtures are falling in our favour, we cam certainly do this.

22 Mar 2026 17:47:44
I'd love Hearts to drop something by the time the split starts. We may need to go and win at Tynecastle and Parkhead, something that will be tough.

22 Mar 2026 19:02:44
Need to beat Dundee United. Thats all ficus we should have.

22 Mar 2026 14:26:31
Big twist in the title race, just need to keep winning now, that mob are rank rotten and wouldn't surprise me if they dropped more points in their next game after break at Dens Park.

22 Mar 2026 19:03:28
Just beat Dundee United.


It's about us, nobody else.

Dundee United onlyy focus.

23 Mar 2026 11:09:43
Do our job properly and the rest won't matter.
Single focus, tunnel vision, let them (both) worry about us.

22 Mar 2026 13:56:38
We are truly in this title fight.

We can do this!

22 Mar 2026 14:06:36
Could be looking at a new helicopter Sunday btw. Even goal difference is tight.

22 Mar 2026 14:11:46
Pragmatic disciplined performances and we win all 7.

22 Mar 2026 14:27:29
Aphelion, Celtic's luck has to run out, mate, what a Sunday, Sunderland beaten that lot and them losing.

22 Mar 2026 14:31:34
What a result.
Setting it up perfectly for us. We can do this.

22 Mar 2026 14:37:33
Feels strange being positive, Hertha BSC winning today also, delighted.
Now onto the most important match of the day, hoping we kick start our league campaign by beating an outstanding Tromso side.

22 Mar 2026 14:41:13
We will never have a better chance, keep winning, keep believing.

22 Mar 2026 15:33:05
Great result, but we just need to concentrate on what we do one game at a time and keep ticking the wins off.

22 Mar 2026 19:03:51
Again, Dundee United only focus.

22 Mar 2026 19:38:51
Unlucky with the Brann result, Aphe. Long way to go though. Thought you were being a bit greedy wanting every one of the teams you like to win. 😂

22 Mar 2026 20:03:24
Maybe Angus, 🤣 although I am devastated the one defeat this weekend is the one I have to deal with in the office tomorrow.

One thing that I will say is running a football club is easy when you're winning.

23 Mar 2026 09:44:06
I can only imagine as unlikely to ever be in that position. I imagine that everyone will be down, as all efforts during the week will be on that 90 minute period, and when it doesn't go well, then it must seem sometimes like all that effort didn't end up being what you wanted.

The good thing about football is that it gives you the perfect opportunity to try to rectify matters.

It is still a relatively new manager you have, and a few new signings in this and last transfer window, so it will take a little while for things to settle to allow the team to reach their potential. Difficult though when you were good last season and challenging to the end. I suppose it just meant that everyone else would strengthen as well to combat that.

23 Mar 2026 09:59:30
Yes, my friend, big thing is all our rivals have managed to keep hold of their top players for the first half of the season.

We have lost Eivind Helland and Emil Kornvig after our valuations were met.

23 Mar 2026 15:54:08
Dusting off the Big Marv T shirt now.