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02 Jun 2026 21:22:33
Kriss boyed by a mile.

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03 Jun 2026 16:30:37
Was the question who loved pies?

04 Jun 2026 10:00:56
Or who always came last in training runs?

05 Jun 2026 11:14:57
Random!

05 Jun 2026 11:40:03
It is random, Blue blue, only because he never responded to the post about Shankland and Boyd, not Geo, but Rab does my head in lol, he always creates another post.

02 Jun 2026 16:41:33
Has anyone om here or family member been offered a new Season ticket this week. I was just wondering what the my gers points drop off is as my son is due one?

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02 Jun 2026 18:59:43
Four lads found an article on club website where the limited number of STs (450-500) were to be offered to juveniles first as of 1 June. Then they would offer them more widely, with 24 hour notice of that happening and based on points. Not a direct answer to your question, but might be a few days before they get past juvenile tickets.

02 Jun 2026 20:04:16
Yeah Angus, thanks for that mate. It's a juvenile one I am waiting on for my son, as he is 10. He is on 395 points. I just wondered if any other member kids had been offered a ST and what threshold of points they had?

03 Jun 2026 13:09:38
Good close friend of mine, little boy just got one after being on the waiting list for years.

03 Jun 2026 18:25:08
Stig, that surprises me as juvenile STs are down from 13% to 7%. You would think that the club would be doing more to encourage young lads to attend as that is the future. I thought what they were doing with the 500 seats this season would be the norm. So kids on waiting list get first dibs.

04 Jun 2026 11:50:56
How many points did he have, Stig?

04 Jun 2026 13:03:40
I'm not sure, Four lads.
My friend's son is disabled - not sure if that makes a difference.
But he was on the list well over 10 years.

04 Jun 2026 13:34:32
Ok, Stig, thanks. My son has been on it for 10 years too. Hopefully get a call soon. 👍🏻

02 Jun 2026 15:22:17
We are still working on Akpe Victory.

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02 Jun 2026 10:45:18
Really hope we sell Aasgaard and Gassama both have Hearts of a mouse. Would like to keep Chermiti. 2 strong experienced CBs also needed.

Agree5

02 Jun 2026 11:50:41
I wouldn't mind keeping both Aasgaard and Gassama. There are a few others I'd rather move on first.

02 Jun 2026 12:50:41
I think all of them might perform better with fitness and a few experienced around them. We are far too quick to write players off as a club. If Rohl wants them and think they fit in with how he wants to play, then great; if not, they will be off but not because of what I think.

02 Jun 2026 14:06:29
Wouldn't be selling either, unless fees big enough.

02 Jun 2026 17:50:29
What happened to the Gassama of the first 6 games? I want that guy back.

I'd keep Aasgaard. Agree with Angus. With proper conditioning and experienced heads around, I think he'll be better next season.

02 Jun 2026 19:09:22
Mvg played LW those games, then had to play RW for the rest of the season, pretty & Martin coached it out of him too.

Aasgaard ended with 8 goals & 5 assists. Just, who people want & I think would be decent for us, got 7 goals & 8 assists. Aasgaard played a lot fewer minutes than Just too. I think he'll be better next season. Is he safe in the middle? But I think he's more of a midfielder in or around the box, like he is with Norway.

Could he do more off the ball & defensively? Yes, he's not bad at defending corners tbf. Gassama does put himself about, but goes down far too easy when he's in decent positions.

Sometimes we need to give players time to adjust & develop in a league/team, can't keep throwing every player away that doesn't hit the ground running in their first season or we'll never build a team.

02 Jun 2026 20:06:52
I would be keeping both. Both will contribute goals and assists next season. I think Aasgaard will do better next season also.

We have plenty other positions to fill first. We need 2 right backs, 2 centre halves and a left back just to fill the loans / OOC we had.

02 Jun 2026 22:05:02
DJB - Good post re the comparison with Just.

It feels like Aasgaard has been poor, but when you look at his 13 goal involvements, it's not horrific.

He just looks as if he has much more to offer.

02 Jun 2026 22:12:25
Athole, I think that is the issue half the time. If we don't see a player running around then we think he is lazy and not getting involved. Can he be better, then yes, but you would say that about most players on the planet.

He now has a season of knowing the demands, and to replace him with Just imo is simply madness (madness they call it madness) (sorry).

03 Jun 2026 10:09:55
Agreed, with all the changes that will happen, we need to keep some consistency. A team of all new players would be a total disaster. In my opinion, we can't keep replacing more than 50% of our team every window.

03 Jun 2026 14:09:50
Agree with Angus point for once. 😅

03 Jun 2026 16:32:38
Wingers should be able to play both sides.

02 Jun 2026 05:55:44
Hope so Butands weakness in distribution is shocking! His performance on corners is bery poor every corner against us is scary the PSG & Arsenal goalkeepers commanded their area with punches & safe collection

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02 Jun 2026 16:23:07
Sorry, what is it you're hoping so for?

02 Jun 2026 16:44:36
The PSG keeper cost £20M, the replacement they bought from Lille cost £47m. Raya at Arsenal cost £30M. So yes, with high price you get a better overall quality keeper, possibly, but we don't have that sort of cash. Can you name one in the zero to say £5m price range who is guaranteed to be the same quality?

02 Jun 2026 18:26:48
Stefan Ortega
Islan Messlier
Freddie Woodman.

02 Jun 2026 18:49:35
There's plenty of excellent frustrated back up keepers in EPL, just for example, who would jump at the chance and wouldn't cost the earth and are better than Butland. To be honest, quite a few up here already are probably just as good as him.

02 Jun 2026 20:04:48
Possibly, but the comparison was with GKs costing £20-£50m.

But, Butland successful saves 70.7% pass success 70.2% acted as sweeper 26, 12 clean sheets high claims 18.

Ortega such. Saves 66.7% pass succ. 69.1% clean sheets 1, goals prevented 1.01 goals from corners 2 acted at sweeper 1.

Messlier 53.8% saves passes 75.6% 0 clean sheets no other figures on Fotmob.

Woodman 69.2% saves passes 57% 0 clean sheets acted as sweeper 3 high claims 1.



Figures from Fotmob for last season. I was surprised by high claims and sweeper, but they are there. So I also think we need a change, but hopefully our recruitment team have a better idea of stats than the fans. 🤷

I know stats don't count if they disagree with you. But I haven't watched the other 3 often if ever, and I doubt anyone else has.

02 Jun 2026 22:27:19
Cheers Angus, for time and research. Think stats on GKs is one of the hardest to judge as so much is dependent on what's in front of them. Some at good clubs are more about concentration, with having little to do, so numbers not as impressive, while others at rubbish clubs make loads of saves but few clean sheets. Reading today about Jose Sa, for eg, at Wolves, is highly rated but I bet his clean sheet stats aren't great. Watching Butland 1st hand though can clearly see he's good at shot stopping (Tho not as good as some make out), which is the basic thing for any decent keeper but not much else.

However, he has major deficiencies which regularly lead to self inflicted chances, not just poor distribution, but also poor with crosses and command of his area. Our set piece record is terrible, and you can see teams target him for these reasons. Honestly, don't think he'll be hard to replace.

03 Jun 2026 10:13:17
Hi Kaiser, not sure what you are arguing here. Is Butland bad because of our poor defense (if that's the case, then many keepers will struggle)? However, if you are saying our defense is good, then we don't need such a good keeper.

03 Jun 2026 10:59:27
Geesa, I'm just saying stats for Goalkeepers can be very deceptive and don't give a good picture. A good GK's stats can look bad because of a weak defence, or a poor GK's stats can look good because of a strong def covering his mistakes. Watching him can tell a very different story from what the stats suggest. Ultimately, we need big changes in both departments.

03 Jun 2026 16:35:25
Stats for keepers can be deceptive because it goes against the point you make, Kaiser, you would say differently if it backed your point up.

Messlier is a terrible keeper and wouldn't want him anywhere near the training centre, nevermind Ibrox.

03 Jun 2026 17:20:40
Not at all, Storm. I'm just saying it's much harder to judge a keeper by just those kind of stats alone as they don't give a proper picture. Rayas probably one of the best but his stats are totally different at Arsenal than from Brentford and wouldn't show what type of keeper he is.

Not trying to push any point really. Personally I don't rate Butland that highly and think we could easily get as good if not better. Others would disagree.

01 Jun 2026 19:45:13
Was in Tesco there in Braintree and 2 wee boys walked by me in Rangers tops and I smiled and looked up and there dad just said WATP! Indeed we are! He's telling me they get a kit every year when it's released

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02 Jun 2026 03:50:49
We're here, we're there, we're f****** everywhere.

02 Jun 2026 09:43:30
We're certainly in Essex. 🔴⚪️💙

01 Jun 2026 14:59:01
Wishing all the best and a speedy recovery for Kevin Keegan.

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