Rangers Debates 2

15 Aug 2026 14:51:57
Bring back Philippe Clement 😜

15 Aug 2026 16:10:10
Another one who got No time.

15 Aug 2026 16:33:56
Clement was let down badly in the transfer market and never got the funds others did. However, the day his side crashed out of the Cup at home to Qp, there was no coming back.

15 Aug 2026 17:25:20
If he'd had the previous season's Scottish Cup in the bag (lost in last minute) or that season's League Cup in the bag (lost on pens), maybe he'd have had more credit in the bank.

Or if Tav had indeed just scored that last min pen v Queen's Park anyway.

15 Aug 2026 18:11:33
Maybe if we had some patience with a manager, we would have lived with a bad defeat and given him time and money to build further. Football teams lose matches, but yet we think we have this divine right to beat every team who we have a higher budget than, but then refuse to be defeated by Celtic who have a higher budget than us.

There must be a logic in there, wait no I can't actually find it.

15 Aug 2026 19:31:57
Don't go trying to bring logic into these pages, Angus, it's not on sir.

15 Aug 2026 20:03:55
BB4 given up trying as it isn't something which works on here. 😂

16 Aug 2026 01:02:03
He doesn't bring logic, though he just goes against the grain, that's all he ever does.

16 Aug 2026 06:47:18
You have a point, Storm. Angus does do that, but I'm with him with that comment, and in particular with Clement.

16 Aug 2026 06:48:56
All ifs and buts Madrid bear.

16 Aug 2026 08:46:17
And maybe if he'd been willing to play more than one tactic. Another who was fine as long as other teams didn't have the audacity to set themselves up in a way that didn't suit us. He still had a squad that could and should have done far better than he did.


Gio was the one who was most let down imo, after taking us to a Euro final, ending up having to play the likes of King, Sands or Lundstram in defence.

16 Aug 2026 10:18:21
Or perhaps I just say what I think and have enough intelligence to form my own opinion. But, Storm, if it makes you feel better to believe otherwise, then please continue.

I'm actually quite happy to have a different opinion from those who seem to think that sacking managers simply because they have the audacity to finish second and not win every available trophy is somehow the way to get the club back to challenging for the league every season.

I think the right approach would have been to give any of those managers, Martin aside, another season to develop the squad, improve the team and work out solutions to the low block. But apparently that's not the way we do things. We lose a game, fail to win the league, sack the manager, change half the squad and start again.

And then we wonder why there's so much chaos and upheaval every year, while hoping that eventually we'll stumble across a manager capable of winning despite it all.

15 Aug 2026 12:01:18
Club brugge interested in Rommens, would sell for the right fee, good player but injury prone

15 Aug 2026 14:46:04
If no one comes in for Raskin, Fernandes or Aasgaard, then we may look to raise funds elsewhere. This might be Rommens.

Penrice on way, and believe we had a bid rejected for Fraser also.

15 Aug 2026 11:32:08
Now we are after two young players from Aston Villa on loan! Just when u thought things couldn't get any worse we're a complete and utter shambles of a club!

15 Aug 2026 12:55:58
Why does that make us a shambles? Aston Villa are a Champions League team who have recently won the Europa League and finished 4th in the EPL. Looks like folk are just looking for a pile on and moan at everything.

There are a few reasons why our club is a shambles at the moment, but signing talent on loan from a top team is not one of them.

15 Aug 2026 13:11:09
We have been looking at the young right back for weeks now, so hardly a new story, so then not a shambles either. Fans think we need a new RB and this lad seems decent. Also, we are trying to make it with an option or obligation, but Villa need to be convinced on that as they see him as a first team player in future.

15 Aug 2026 13:24:24
You'd need to know both players and have watched them a fair bit for it to be a shambles. How about we firstly see if they sign and give them a fighting chance?

Seeing everyone on here, or most, think our recruitment team is rotten, do you really want them signing more players on good money on a permanent basis? Probably not.

15 Aug 2026 14:09:41
What players?

15 Aug 2026 16:33:29
Are they better than what we have whoever they are?

15 Aug 2026 18:15:29
Big Slim, every player we have is rubbish, aren't they, so can it even be possible they are worse?

Agree with Iron, if not for same reasons. No recruitment team so far has managed to buy players fans like, so surely the best business sense for the club is to loan every player firstly, and see if they fit and can handle the crap involved in playing for Rangers.

If not, then don't buy, if they can handle it then buy.

15 Aug 2026 19:52:48
Good point, Angus. 👍

15 Aug 2026 11:09:36
I know these sites are Rumours and Discussions. However I can't sit back and listen to some of the drivel that is being spouted on here. Why is it always the Managers fault. Players get paid vast amounts to play football and should be able to adapt to any style and formation. As kids we all did it every game we played. These players have all forgot what it means to play for Rangers. L Shankland stand out for Hearts did nothing so far. C Devlin stand out for Hearts done nothing. Nobody having a go at them. Its all the Managers fault.

How many managers do these so called fans want Rangers to go through, they all can't be wrong. let me remind you all of another Manager who went to a club and was written off within 7 games of that Club. However the same manager went on to be one of the most successful mangers that club ever had. Sir Alex Ferguson. So why don't these so called fans get behind the manager and the club, remember we don't do walking away. I agree the players have not gelled they need time and a leader. Last season all these guys were signing Fernandez's praise this year they slate him, he was never Rangers quality and never will be. Open your eyes with fans like we have just now slating players and managers and the club no wonder nobody want to come to us. We are starting to sound like that other mob in the east end. Get behind the team cheer not boo and maybe the players will respond.

15 Aug 2026 11:55:59
Go on my man, let it all out.

Can I ask you a question about "nobody" having a go at the players you mentioned. Can you read? And if you can, have you been reading the posts on here, and every other Rangers forum?. 🤣

15 Aug 2026 12:38:23
Tbf if u read this forum everyone's getting it in the neck. 🤣

15 Aug 2026 13:41:13
Jesus wept. 🤦‍♂️

15 Aug 2026 10:47:05
Reading the rumours page and seeing the exchanges involving the likes of Lundstram Loyal and John.

John, more specifically, as you post a lot more content on here.

Do you know what, to everyone really

But I'd genuinely like to say this to you, mate, and I hope you take it in the way it's intended, because there's absolutely no dig behind it and I'm being completely genuine.

John, genuinely mate, I think sometimes you take this place and what people say on here a wee bit too seriously and personally.

You absolutely shouldn't stop sharing what you hear. I think the vast majority of us enjoy reading the snippets of information you bring to the forum, whether they eventually happen or not.

There's probably hundreds of people who read this site every day and never post a single word, and they'll be looking out for information from guys like yourself just as much as those of us who contribute our opinions, Banter, discussion and rumours (try anyway)

That's what a rumours and banter site is supposed to be about.

Things change in football constantly. Deals collapse, players change their minds, clubs move the goalposts and information that was 100% accurate on Monday can be completely irrelevant by Wednesday. It doesn't automatically mean somebody was talking rubbish or pretending to know something.

So try and take it a wee bit more lightheartedly mate. If someone disagrees with you, questions something or has a wee dig, don't let it bother you so much. You don't need to defend every bit of information you've ever posted or prove yourself to anybody.

Keep posting what you hear, let everyone discuss it, and if it happens brilliant. If it doesn't, we move onto the next one.

I've certainly appreciated plenty of the information you've shared over the years and I'm sure I'm far from the only one.

At the end of the day we're all Rangers supporters on a rumours and banter forum talking about the club we love.

It's supposed to be enjoyable, John.

Again, I hope this doesn't sound rude or whatever, I love reading rumours and checking out potential players

So please, everyone just keep posting up what you hear, it's what sparks discussion and debate.

Don't let one poster offend you, to stop you posting, whoever they may be. me included 🥰

15 Aug 2026 13:06:53
Stig, I totally concur with your post. I, for one, look forward to the guys ITK posts, as you say, whether they come off or not. Nobody can be 100% correct all the time, also look forward to EHL's take on the games. I was a bit taken aback from the comments relating to Lunstrum.

I thought a lot of guys jumped into "put the boot" into his post. As you said, Stig, it is a Rumours page, meaning an unofficial story or piece of news that might be true. To finish off, John, or any of the guys ITK, keep posting as I, for one, appreciate your input.

15 Aug 2026 17:17:07
Good post, Stig. Yes, I'll stop sharing my choice.

Certainly not rude.

15 Aug 2026 09:37:09
I think some people pine for mediocrity when they reference the return of some players of the recent past but I think the exceptions would be cerny and sima. A quick net search suggests they would be feasible if we sell Raskin and they appear to tick all of the boxes in my opinion.

Hoping the PSV debacle this week may lead to at least 1 of these coming but very aware of what John's mentioned about downsizing and don't think these two would fit that narrative.

15 Aug 2026 07:57:03
Angus first of all good to have u back again after. Genuine question mate. Down the pages somewhere u said the owners had put the foundations in place to get us back to the top. Where do u see it? I honestly can't see it mate. We're built on sand and crumbling. Apart from the obvious initial takeover almost everything since has been a mistake. We don't seem to have the right men off the park, DOFs etc and more rumours of fall outs and change going to happen.

And on the park is just a random mess. It not like we even have the basis of a good team that just needs time to gel and click. We joked about only having 5 defenders and now don't even have that. What kind of foundation is that to build on? Again I'm not judging McInnes yet as he's not been given any of the tools to work with

15 Aug 2026 09:58:28
Hope you enjoyed the short sabbatical. Angus 👍
Nothing has changed in here. 😱😱

15 Aug 2026 10:27:34
I think when people talk about "foundations" or "building blocks", it doesn't necessarily mean we've currently got a great team or that everything behind the scenes is working perfectly. There have clearly been mistakes and we've had far too much change.

But there have been building blocks put in place since the takeover: fresh investment, changes to the board and senior structure, greater use of data and recruitment/scouting, investment in the academy and infrastructure, and generally trying to make the club operate in a more professional and sustainable way; and not making knee jerk reactions to sort something just that week. Whether they've got all the right people in those positions is obviously still up for debate, but that's different from saying nothing has changed. But those changes will long-term improve the club and the team. So foundations being in place and adjusted don't necessarily mean the results on the pitch are instant. I think as well that the owners realise we need stability to build the club/team/squad so I hope they are able to keep that stability if fan unrest becomes louder.

Hopefully that time is short to get to the stage of winning, but it is needed as every iteration results in a lowered bar to start from.

All of the frustration is around not winning and recruitment at the moment. And on recruitment, I think we need to be careful about judging something we don't actually see totally. If the recruitment team are identifying players that most Rangers fans would be happy with, then surely that's evidence that they're at least identifying the right sort of targets.

So yes, we are unbalanced but I think even from reading the press and what is leaked we have been trying to improve that unbalance. If we were winning whilst that happened then frustration would be less.

So I can see the reasons for your frustrations but I am equally as frustrated as we never give time to sort these things out. I don't mean until close of transfer window, although that is the first stage, nor till October, but to actually allow the club to build us back to where we are. Surely you see that can't be instant after the last 15 years.

15 Aug 2026 11:58:19
The constant need for changes in staff show we haven't even got good foundations in place to build on yet. I agree McInnes needs time. When u look at even top clubs like Klopp or Arteta, etc., and even under Gerrard, they didn't get success immediately, but u could see the plan of what they and the clubs wanted straight away. We've made 9 signings so far (which should never be needed unless you've made a mess of things) without any clear idea of a structure, on top of all those signed last year, with 3 managers all with totally different styles of play.

As much as there is anger and frustration at bad results, it's not having the reason to believe in what they're doing that makes it worse.

15 Aug 2026 12:56:30
Kaiser, I think the constant change in players is more to do with trying to satisfy a manager and their demands than the players not having the ability; possibly the mentality, but think that needs to be developed over a period of time here. They never get that, and think that is one of the things McInnes will be trying to work on.

I agree we should never need to sign 9 but they are to replace the 16 or so we lost due to end of contracts and loans. Those were down in part to timing of takeover not allowing the time to identify and sign the players we needed; oh and lack of cash to do every deal at one time.

So we still don't have that cash but this time I think the plan was to replace a large section of that by getting deals for OOC and a few others who wanted to come over the line early.

The other quality players have proved more difficult as we seem to have been fairly strict on our valuations. That to me is a good thing as it means we aren't stuck with high earning overpriced players if they don't work out.

I am as frustrated during games and with results, but we still have time to get the right business done before start of September. That isn't perfect but this is a longer 'journey' than first month and a bit of a season. This is about finishing those foundations and winning for a long time in the future. I think Cavanagh now sees it needs time and patience with a manager and will give McInnes that.

15 Aug 2026 21:12:34
Angus, yea, I completely agree with your assessment in above post, that's been the logical way I've thought of it also, but unlike yourself I don't know how to write/post it like you've done, as I jump ahead of myself when typing, I end up making a cent of it, so I end up deleting my post as I don't want to because anyone or myself confusing, so yea, well in mate.