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10 Jan 2025 09:39:06
Finally watched the disastrous post match stuff and I have to say PC actually looked ill and defeated. That being said his constant excuses are now transferring to the players as Propper comes out and says we had injuries blah blah blah.
Feels like nobody is actually being held responsible for the mess we are in, let's not get it twisted. These players on the park last night are and should be by miles, able to beat Hibs, Motherwell, ST. Mirren and Dundee.
See folk saying we can't afford to sack him and that is nonsense, what club wouldn't sack a manager for failing. Soon enough the fans will stop turning up and we will have scenes or protests soon enough so they can't afford not to sack him.
Last point is that I see we need a manager that knows the Scottish game etc but that's a load of waffle IMO as Gerrard wasn't even a manager before joining us (u19s I know) but he got what it meant to wear that badge on your chest and commanded respect due to his career but he also had a clear game plan which the players bought into. So no having experience of our league doesn't matter, it's having the kind of aura where players buy into what your selling and getting them hungry enough to go away to Dundee on a freezing Thursday night and turn them over!
Rant over sorry lads.
1.) 10 Jan 2025 09:48:37
I agree that he is looking strained in interviews. It reminds me a bit of the end of Mowbray's time at Celtic where his mental health was clearly taking a pounding and it was sadly very obvious and dare I say painful to see.
2.) 10 Jan 2025 09:48:42
All points spot on mate.
3.) 10 Jan 2025 09:53:29
Gerrard was given time and money.
4.) 10 Jan 2025 10:00:29
From middle to front we had practically all our players available to pick from. They had almost an entire team out. Yes we had injuries at the back but that wasn't the problem. Consistently now PC has shown an inability to change or adapt to challenges or setbacks against teams built on a fraction of our budget.
5.) 10 Jan 2025 10:06:51
Everyone seen massive improvement year on year with Gerrard. There is no improvement after a year with Clement.
6.) 10 Jan 2025 10:10:28
Chenks give over man, the guy was different gravy compared to PC as a manager.
Bouncy honestly his mental health must be taking a massive hit and it is hard to see but he should do what's best and just resign to save himself and us.
7.) 10 Jan 2025 10:10:49
Kaiser what do you mean the defence isn't the problem. of course it is, they scored in 6 minutes which then dictates how they play going forward. we need to stop the goals against us.
we can't for some reason win games when we have such high possession. our midfield were devoid of ideas, too many backward/ sideward passes. frontline starved of any real service.
8.) 10 Jan 2025 10:13:54
I agree he is suffering mentally, it's visible in his demeanour, think your spot on DTB??.
9.) 10 Jan 2025 10:19:14
At this point in Gerrards first seaosn he was 3 points behind Celtic and had spent 5m less than what clement had spent in the summer, he also inherited a far far worse squad than what clement did.
10.) 10 Jan 2025 11:19:11
Remember when sterling showed a bit of character the manager shot him down. that's when he lost me.
11.) 10 Jan 2025 12:17:09
Geesa I meant it wasn't the big problem. Unlike Hibs where we played well but we're let down by defence. And also he had 2 of his first choice defence playing anyway. It's not that rare to concede one but how u react. Yet again it was going forward that we failed to score enough to win. And he failed to change things.
01 Jan 2025 12:52:04
Happy new year to you all and the Ed's for keeping this place going, hope 2025 is great for all involved.
{Ed001's Note - HNY to you too bbj.}
1.) 01 Jan 2025 13:15:47
All the best bbj?.
02 Dec 2024 18:31:02
Just seen PC's comments after the game at weekend and it goes like this.
"After a European game and a good victory, we need to stand up three days later and get the points here. We had to play good football and play the football we want to see and they did that, it is now about creating this culture with the group. "
So he is clearly stating here that we played good football in the lucky win over ST. Johnstone and this is what we want going forward.
This comment is enough for me to say that this guy does not watch the same games as everyone else. This is a bad period for our club and this guy steering us forward gives me the fear really bad!
1.) 02 Dec 2024 19:17:44
The problem you have is any press conference needs balance from any manager. It's a fine line between saying something meaningful and building confidence of the team.
All these issues fans have with stuff said in pressers is entirely down to the mess we have been in the last few years. It's understandable but at end of the day if we were top of the league no one would care.
For me yesterday was not lucky, it was controlled and a wee bit better than we have been with shoots of progress. No Dessers and Hagi playing the 10 properly for the first time this season.
After a hard Euro game it's difficult to raise your game again, not just a Rangers thing, many SPL and EPL teams suffer from that. For me we simply don't have the quality to rotate enough to overcome that. Just look at Cerny and Bajrami, they start every game even though there is an argument Bajrami should be dropped because he has been poor all season.
With all of that and our struggles getting domestic results I thought we were not bad yesterday.
2.) 02 Dec 2024 19:39:31
Hes deluded and clueless.
3.) 02 Dec 2024 19:47:57
He`s hardly going to come out and say we played crap and how disappointed he is that international footballers cannot make simple passes or finish chances when they only have the keeper to beat.
4.) 02 Dec 2024 19:52:30
I don't listen to anything he says.
5.) 02 Dec 2024 20:38:52
Lucky win? Thought Danilo had a chance?
6.) 02 Dec 2024 21:07:13
Correct Paul.
Yes red we were lucky to win.
7.) 02 Dec 2024 23:18:35
We were not bad yesterday Tommy we were woeful, awful, jimmy white whatever adjective you want to describe this bunch of clowns. Yes teams have hangovers after Euro games but we have been this bad of a watch for ages now. Let's just have this sink in for a second, we are now in December and have scored 3 away goals in the league, that isn't good enough but yet our clueless messiah says it's what we want going forward.
Sorry but no he can do one! Hope to god he is sacked before he wastes whatever budget we have!
8.) 03 Dec 2024 06:53:46
Lucky win haha. I'm sure anyone looking at the game stats not seeing the game would say it was an undeserving lucky win too. Some of you are quick to forget some of the absolutely woeful horrible football we played under Walter but 3 points was the only important factor. We had good spells in the game. A lot of the guys aren't used to 2 games a week. This sensationalised negativity must be some sort of fetish to some in the support.
9.) 03 Dec 2024 07:16:59
I know we were lucky storm, so does everyone else, but I was told Danilo had a big chance in the game so obviously we were not lucky.
10.) 03 Dec 2024 09:09:53
give it a break guys, it is obvious a lot of fans don't support the manager but to hang on to every word he says is tiresome. we were in total control of the game, how many chances did the opposition have?
i guess we need to get use to you guys just constantly moaning and berating as PC isn't going anywhere soon.
we need goals to calm the nerves and he acknowledged that what else do you want him to say in the pressers. that we are crap etc. then he will be accused of throwing the players under the bus.
11.) 03 Dec 2024 09:52:29
Well it's no surprise we are where we are especially if we have fans that are willing to accept these performances and accept mediocrity while making excuses. I as a Rangers fan am no willing to accept laziness as that's what we are, these boys show in Europe that they can run and move the ball faster. Also can we stop with the oh we played in Europe and they are tired, so did Celtic. Pumped 5 past Ross county. Arsenal pumped 5 past West ham. Liverpool and smashed City 2 nil. It's a tiring excuse honestly, all they would need to do is check their bank balance and I'm sure they'd feel better!
12.) 03 Dec 2024 10:07:50
Winning 1-0 and it being an own goal no matter the stats is a lucky win.
Red aw the big chances crap getting posted about it again ? 5 big chances we made against Lyon pity we got pumped and canny make that amount against st Johnstone and Dundee Utd ?.
13.) 03 Dec 2024 10:10:04
I can’t believe he is the Manager of RFC, it’s like a bad dream that never ends.
14.) 03 Dec 2024 10:38:00
Storm you and Coldo is a very good double act man.
15.) 03 Dec 2024 10:42:18
Its some laugh Storm ?.
16.) 03 Dec 2024 10:54:10
St Johnstone Keeper 10 saves Butland 1 save, yes were lucky ??.
17.) 03 Dec 2024 11:36:39
Spot on Azul, never ending nightmare.
18.) 03 Dec 2024 11:53:55
Were they spectacular saves or bread and butter saves? Bread and butter so not really saves as such. So your stats about "saves" means nothing.
19.) 03 Dec 2024 12:25:56
Rabbi agreed, but you do get them.
20.) 03 Dec 2024 15:44:56
Rabbi, people are negative cause we have had to go thru 12 years of being absolutely bitch slapped of off our rivals. Walter got away with it cause he consistently won trophies. I don’t think it was a lucky win but I can definitely understand why people are negative with another poor performance.
22 Oct 2024 12:02:49
I'm not always the most level headed person when it comes to Rangers due to my love for the club and I'll be the first to admit this.
That being said and after the weekend I see our fan base is split on whether PC deserves more time or not. So to those that think he should stay, can you give me reasons as to why? Apart from the we can't afford it excuse because long term if the fans turn and start not showing up it will cost our club more imo.
I want him gone and gone now and I will list a few of my reasons. Some are just a sense that I get no inside info or anything.
1. Our football is terrible!
2. What style of play do we have, I have seen more tempo from a senior citizens bingo hall.
3. His substitutions are terrible.
4. His press conferences are now like Tav after every Celtic defeat.
5. He keeps playing Tav when it's clear he is done.
6. Throwing 2 players under the bus after that defeat just riled me the wrong way.
7. If I have to watch another game where our defenders literally walk out of defence with the ball and pass it back and forth, I might have to gouge my eyes out.
8. He said we would be fitter after a proper pre season but this is the laziest squad I have witnessed in some time.
9. Re-read all points above.
Now I know all the board room stuff etc will not be helping matters and I genuinely feel for the guy that he's been put in this position but a manager is supposed to set the tone for the players and I just don't see it. Are the players actually doing what they are asked of them or just doing their own thing?
1.) 22 Oct 2024 12:32:28
Bigbluejim, can't argue with any of your points. The players must be playing to his instructions, otherwise he would have changed it or criticised the way they are playing and he hasn't done either. Cantwell was gone for disobeying him, and clement just seems happy if we dominate the possession statistics, that he always quotes.
2.) 22 Oct 2024 14:46:09
Yeah I agree Scotty, he at first filled me with confidence and now it's just dread.
05 Oct 2024 13:48:16
As many on here will know I have backed PC and said he would get us going in the right direction but after the start of the season and after Thursday I'm sure he isn't the man to take us forward on the pitch. Yes he is pointing the club in the right direction off the field etc but on the pitch we are getting worse and not better.
A blind man can see Tav is done, he gets targeted every game now and has lost 10 yards of pace. Cerny has been awful. Bajrami looks a touch of class and should be playing in the 10 role and nobody else. Our midfield gets over run every game and I know Barron was bad the other night but this boy wasn't a regular starter for the sheep but hasn't missed a minute for us. Worried he is getting a bit of burnout. PC should be having words with Dessers, I know he is our striker and should be as we have nobody else really but the amount of times he gets the slightest touch and goes down appealing for a foul/ pen is just sad. Refs will not want to give him anything as he is always moaning and even stops playing to complain.
Then we get to him bringing Dowell on who literally didn't do a damn thing, either Bajrami goes there and we put wee Ross on the left or he shores up centre mid with Raskin. Our football is absolute dire to watch and I can't see any style of play being implemented. I will back the guy but honestly feel his time will be up very soon as he seems stuck in his ways and won't adapt to anything in game. Being 1 dimensional will get you nowhere these days.
Bit scattered I know as I'm honestly still raging about Thursday.
1.) 05 Oct 2024 14:49:57
I have to say some of PC's substitutions are a bit baffling. Jury still out for me.
2.) 05 Oct 2024 15:12:57
I genuinely don't believe that replacing Clement with yet another Manager is the answer if we are to continue with the same Board that quite clearly lacks ambition and is either unable or unwilling to invest the funds needed to get us back on top and capable of progressing in Europe.
This is not a change of view, since the Parks family assumed control in the latter stages of Gerrard's managerial reign, we have been on a downward spiral.
While it is all irrelevant now, had we signed Sima ahead of the qualifying round of the Champions League and signed a quality centre back, and consigned Tav to the reserves, rather than what materialised, then things might be different.
We have signed some young players with potential but being blunt, they are unlikely to progress without the leadership and quality proven professional players to bring them on, and sadly, we simply do not have this at present.
Defensively we are poor. Tav is done, our two centre backs are mediocre and regrettably Souttar will not develop if Propper is the best that we have alongside him.
In midfield we have a number of good young players with potential but absolutely no quality experienced leaders to help them develop and to give us that extra bite both defensively and in an attacking sense.
As far as our wingers and attacking players are concerned, we have no quality fit wide players and I would question whether those out injured would improve things and the same as far as strikers are concerned.
We are badly in need of a Defoe, a quality player that young players can look up to and can learn from.
Like our Board, there is little to excite us currently on and off the park!
3.) 05 Oct 2024 15:15:29
Good post Big, agree and we are too lightweight, plain to see the other night the lack of quality we have at that level, even for Celtic games we need to b harder to play against, the manager is stubborn sticks mainly to the same players and system though it’s hard to know what the system is at times.
He isn’t going to change now.
4.) 05 Oct 2024 16:12:52
I want to like him baxter I really do as he speaks very well and appreciates that this is a huge job but results and performances are what makes or breaks managers and he has to improve and quick or we will turn on him soon and he isn't ready for that.
Berkshire spot on pal, we lack any leadership. Losing Defoe, Davis and Arfield etc and not replacing them was a huge mistake and will cost us dearly. Young players need guidance and I for one don't want that being Tav passing in his acceptance of failure.
I said when the window shut that this squad is much much worse than the one we finished the season with and many said I was talking nonsense but think it's very clear now this squad is lacking in quality all over.
Very lightweight Rosevale, that's why I'd like to see Raskin back in as he actually puts himself about and gets stuck in.
5.) 05 Oct 2024 16:37:27
Actually suggested Defoe a couple of days ago Berkshire, think it's a gd shout bud?.
6.) 05 Oct 2024 17:17:10
I don't get how an experienced coach like PC cannot see how teams target tav and when we lose the ball we are wide open especially in the midfield if I as a fan can see surely he must.
7.) 05 Oct 2024 19:01:07
Must be the captain factor Walter, he’s the weak link there yet he starts every game.
He dosent add a lot to the team now apart from taking penalties.
He hasn’t the balls to drop the captain.
8.) 05 Oct 2024 19:03:27
Bigbluejim - what is PC doing off the pitch that's impressing you?
9.) 05 Oct 2024 19:28:54
So our two chances early on for Tav and Cerny were created by a team with no style. The 4 clean sheets prior to that game were achieved with a poor defence and mediocre CBs. CCV at Celtic has developed with Scales alongside him who their fans unfairly think is poor.
Our players all say Tav is a great role model and always positive who unfortunately has been around the team when we down win titles so is tarred with being a loser. that means 99% of football players are losers as very few win anything in their career. Messi was considered by some to be a loser in the press until he won the WC recently.
Good young players will thrive and develop whatever, I give you Lewis Ferguson as the perfect example. Dessers, like a lot of modern players feels contact and goes to ground. When we were under pressure and he is alone up front he sees it as a way of buying a foul. Watch the game on Thursday and see how many times they went to ground and got a foul for little or no contact. no wonder he is frustrated. I think he does go down too easily, but they are given a lot.
Barron doesn't have burnout after less than 10 games in a season, behave. He was playing against experienced players who were better at this point than him. experience alongside him would help talk him through those patches, but we failed to bring in a few experienced number 6s.
We are in transition during a rebuild at the start of the season on here many were willing to accept that and give PC and the team time. Less than 10 games isn't enough time. Wasting my time I know here and I respect everyone's right to have an opinion, but some if this is just so wrong.
10.) 05 Oct 2024 19:57:33
Lamps for me.
11.) 05 Oct 2024 20:45:20
We beat Malmo, who many of our support didn't think we would, then we lose to a Lyon team who are way higher level than us, and panic breaks out. We are in a great position in this Europa league with some winnable ties to come, c'mon the gers.
12.) 05 Oct 2024 21:00:17
Dowell didn't actually do bad coming on. Not that I'm for him being a regular. I think the sensationalism from people who don't grasp that football isn't the way it was before 2012. Lyon spent £150 million over the last 2 windows.
13.) 05 Oct 2024 22:43:10
Role model Angus?
Look at it another way we have signed is it Kasawiro and we have Sterling, both have played right back for other teams and past managers of theirs have said how they were difficult to get past and physical in the one to ones, my point is both are sitting on the bench watching captain calamity being roasted at right back on a regular occasion, do you think they are happy with that cause he’s a good role model for the club?
They will be unhappy about it so I don’t see a lot of good morale from that situation.
Buck stops with the manager I get that but he has yet to show a willingness to adapt to different situations against the good sides and make big calls, lack of funds or a working progress is getting thin for me cause we are seeing the same frailties time and time again all over the park.
Respect it’s your opinion Angus but many don’t agree with you and not just on here in the stands aswell.
14.) 06 Oct 2024 08:11:04
Rosevale really don't care what people think about my opinion. I don't agree with many people on here and in real life about many things. doesn't mean they are wrong. I mentioned Tav as a role model as people were saying that there was no-one guiding the young players when we have a good few to do that: Butland, Balogun, Tavernier, Lawrence. you may not like them as players but they can guide younger players in the game.
those players will have had conversation with the manager about where they fit in and how they progress so I don't think there will be any malaise or ill feeling there. Not the dreaded next line from the press which fans will repeat of having lost the dressing room.
the manager needs time and 10 or so games into a season isn't enough. It is modern society that causes that in that everyone wants things instantly. Bizzbox is right we beat Malmo and I think we have won every game we can be expected to win at this point in rebuild. we matched Lyon on chances created and we just need to take those chances now. Re the fans it is the parochialness of the OF where fans are never happy if they aren't beating the other of the two. that has happened for as long as I've been a fan and will continue long after i'm gone.
17 Jan 2025 14:42:33
That's good to hear EHL, we really need to start getting rid of the players who contribute very little and are on silly wages.
EHL are things looking more like we are trying as a club to have a philosophy on playing style etc and that it will be Koppen bringing guys in to fit this?
Really makes sense that we have that identity as a club and then any future players/ managers would be brought in to coincide with this rather than the helter skelter style have been using.
14 Jan 2025 09:01:08
How great would it be that we didn't need to sack him and in fact made money off of him. Let's all email the Belgian FA today and petition this for ASAP.
14 Jan 2025 08:45:12
If we have learned one thing from Koppen and PC at Ibrox and their business to date, we won't be interested in any names being banded about in the media as they have tended to keep things in house and close to their chest.
13 Jan 2025 17:00:34
What a drain of a wage this boy has been, I don't care if we get any money for him. Just get him gone and let someone from the B team take his spot on the bench.
12 Jan 2025 11:30:04
The lad has played 48 mins all season so exactly how long would we have to wait till he's up to speed, the boy has hardly played in the last couple of years so it's a no regardless of loan or buying him. Not what we need and he's small.
17 Jan 2025 17:49:25
Yes it's still effecting us as a lot of those players are still here, are these stupid wages being paid on incomings going forward then no.
17 Jan 2025 17:46:58
Angus who said injury prone? He stated we have wasted 4m on a guy to sit on the treatment table, to which he is correct. The boys previous injury record means nothing as it's about his time at our club and he has been here a year now and hardly managed to string a bunch of games together. Missed more matches than he has started.
17 Jan 2025 17:37:15
Mystar and coops, I am of the opinion that he would 100% leave us. The man has stated numerous times that the job is not what he was told and has to work under really tight budgets etc he isn't going to come out in a presser and say "nah I'm not really focused on my current employment and just here as I'm getting paid" just my opinion as stated. The guy looks very drained and not to mention has witnessed first hand how fickle our fans are so I personally think if approached he would be away.
Personally for me it's a massive win if they approach him.
17 Jan 2025 14:50:01
Wishy this deal is looking more and more likely like some of the worst business done. We should have had obligation to buy upon the player playing in X amount of games.
There is a player in there no doubt but we just never see him play often enough and has been here a year at this point.
17 Jan 2025 14:48:04
Morelos wasn't on crazy money compared to the others mentioned but you are right Zikos, the wages compared to success was a joke and a gamble that failed miserably.
Why I want to see us move away from signing players from down south as we always seem to have to offer higher wages for them.