Rangers Banter Archive January 28 2020

28 Jan 2020 20:37:00
Read an article today and don't know if it's just paper talk but we are looking to move on jones and Barker. Also stated Barker is on 10k a week. Surely this can't be accurate. If it is the no wonder Allen left the club. Think Jones before his injury showed he could be a dangerous player for us.
Heard from a friend that there could be 2 players coming in if all players SG and Wilson want gone are away. Both attack minded players. Guy also said there may be trouble in the summer if club sell players SG wants to build team with.

28 Jan 2020 22:29:23
It's paper talk.
Barker is not on £10k a week or even close.
Jones is a bang average one-trick pony with an attitude problem.
It's 95% certain no players will be arriving in this window.
Gerrard and the board have already agreed some players will be sold in the summer to finance future ambitions.
Sorted.

29 Jan 2020 10:49:18
Covenanter my understanding is Barker is on 5k basic with further 5 k if in match day 18.
Same deal as Flanagan.

29 Jan 2020 13:04:04
So for more than half the time he is on £5k a week.

29 Jan 2020 13:41:53
Yes that’s what I understand, same as Flanagan.

28 Jan 2020 19:51:01
Are we getting rid of players and others going out in order to pay definitely wage who will be the highest earner for sure.

28 Jan 2020 19:26:42
Dont know if this would be a shout or not. But Abel Ruiz of Barcelona. Young striker and can play both wings. Don't know if he's playing for the team but seen him play for the under 21s for Spain looks like a good player. Loan to buy might be an option.

Thoughts?

28 Jan 2020 20:46:22
Have you been playing FIFA or football manager fifaguy?

28 Jan 2020 21:43:28
You have not seen him for Spain u21s you’ve signed him on Fifa. I’ve signed him on Fifa. We’ve all signed him on Fifa! Your username has knackered you.

28 Jan 2020 17:58:28
some people coming on here slating alfredo for being sent of twice, if my memory serves my correctly one of the bookings against motherwell was never a booking and the foul against brown in the old firm again was a laughable booking, they refs were out to get him in both games.

28 Jan 2020 18:36:04
Ian problem is he puts himself in a position where ref has to make decisions.

28 Jan 2020 19:37:49
So is he just meant to make no contact at all to avoid the non bookings dished out to him?

28 Jan 2020 20:04:30
The booking in Celtic game wasnt just gor the foul on brown it was for persistent fouling for the ones gone before👍.

28 Jan 2020 16:25:15
Is morelos attitude still a liability? Would seem so. People saying we badly miss morelos, yet he is in the stand because of his attitude. 🤷‍♂️👍.

28 Jan 2020 16:41:24
Oh coldo what can of worms here mate! I do agree with you be stunned if he gets to end of season without another stint in the stands.

28 Jan 2020 16:43:27
Bad attitude or not we do badly miss him and I'd rather him in the team over Defoe anyday of the week.

28 Jan 2020 16:54:16
A wee bit better management of him at times as well. At park head the last 10 mins I could see a red coming for him, it would have been better just to get him off n out the firing line.

28 Jan 2020 17:21:00
GMW bad attitude or not? Surely you see that unless he sorts his attitude you'll be seeing more of defoe👍.

28 Jan 2020 18:28:35
Spot on both Herewego an coldo, but unfortunately that's just our opinions an Stevie don't seem to see it that way.

28 Jan 2020 18:32:25
You've done well coldo. It's nearly the end of January before you have started to moan about Morelos 😉 strangely quiet about the indifferent form of Kent and kamara though🤔.

28 Jan 2020 18:54:28
Problem is, I've just heard he is one more booking away from another suspension, so if that's the case he will be missing again pretty soon as he is a marked man. I'm rapidly warming to the idea of another striker coming in.

28 Jan 2020 19:05:36
Maybe we should swap him for a RF👍.

28 Jan 2020 19:09:40
Could you Herewego55? That’s some crystal ball you’ve got!
I take it you hadn’t polished it properly before the Motherwell game and never predicted that sending off?

28 Jan 2020 20:07:49
Difnt think he should have been sent off at motherwell, the 2nd booking was a joke. Deserved thr one at park head soon as he's booked you could see the red coming, as s good few posters on here said after gsme. Hardly need s crystal ball to know he struggles to control himself st times 👍.

28 Jan 2020 22:18:10
Pacman 👏👏👏😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

RF👍RF👍RF👍RF👍RF👍.

28 Jan 2020 15:43:17
Ed My first poll request on Ryan Kent:
Criteria as follows;
Ryan Kent enigma is he;
- Cameo-man (last 5-10 mins of match)
- Super-sub ( Fairclough-type 15-20 mins)
- Good for full match
Still unsure on him from my perspective.

{Ed033's Note -


Ryan Kent Poll

28 Jan 2020 18:03:52
Why would you play one of our best players in the last 5 10 15 20 mins of a match. The mind boggles 😱👍.

28 Jan 2020 19:12:56
Best players? He has the potential to be one of our best players but is currently a bit part player.
Isn’t as influential as Morelos or we wouldn’t all be talking how we miss him when he’s suspended.
Time for the £7 million misfit to step up and play! 👍.

28 Jan 2020 21:47:21
Coldo you clearly see a different game than everyone else. You slate Aribo but love Kent but in all honesty there’s been very little between them in the last few games.

28 Jan 2020 14:31:00
Dykes and Eaves being touted on here as possibles - if this is the case then I would rather we just played our u18s, as what's being mentioned is not up to Partick Thistle or Alloa FC (no disrespect intended) standard never mind Rangers.

If we want an impact player we need to pay for it. SG has tried the mediocre route and it has failed which is why so many are going out on loan. He knows what he wants just a matter now if we can afford it, and if we don't, well watch this space, because SG will be off.

28 Jan 2020 15:28:04
Those are good options as. an alternative option. Dykes would have posed more problems to that hearts back line than Defoe did without doubt. sometimes it is nt going to work for Defoe if we can’t provide for him, big strong bullies will occupy defenders a lot better than Defoe if that’s the way a games going and offer more of a threat from balls into the box and opportunity to work of second balls etc, it’s just another option not Alfie’s replacement.

28 Jan 2020 16:58:43
Aye mate dykes has 11 goals slread, ripped the Tim's to bits caused us all sorts of bother every game. But he's not good enough for partick or alloa mate, okay 🙈 I'd have been happier with dykes up front sunday wee defoe is close but away to Aberdeen hearts celtic etc he's just not got the legs.

28 Jan 2020 13:44:37
Without Alfie, we've struggled, not against teams in the top half but stranraer and hearts. HM.

28 Jan 2020 15:40:56
Now now, your not allowed to say things like that. Ed, red card and 3 match ban Rossco!

28 Jan 2020 12:36:53
hate to slate Gerrard but to say that Ojo is better than the two wingers he's trying to get rid off is a joke . Jones hasn't really had a chance yes he was stupid in the old firm game . but seriosly hasn't had game time or barker hasn't really had game time either .

28 Jan 2020 13:03:06
Ojo is 100% better than barker. Barker is junior level player. Really bad. And reported on 10k a week. Get rid pronto. Jones i think has more to give.

28 Jan 2020 13:17:28
Agreed, but JJ won't be allowed to as Gerard has clearly made him the scapegoat for OF in September and doesn't fancy him anymore. Yes, he was stupid and got injured making that tackle but it was team selection/ formation that lost us that game. There's got to be more to it, getting rid of so many players - do we not have the money? Getting rid of JJ will come back and bite us.

28 Jan 2020 13:25:36
Sir Struth I believe issue is jones attitude.

28 Jan 2020 13:28:13
SirStruth, it has been common knowledge since October that the oversized squad of 30-odd would be drastically trimmed before the end of this window, it's that simple, no 'skint' theories required. As for Jones, he is a waster and will never come back and bite us, he hasn't got that ability.

28 Jan 2020 13:32:50
Struth!
Are you really suggesting the JJ is not played because SG holds him accountable for the Celtic defeat?

IF SG thought JJ would improve our team based on his attitude, skill and effort in training, he would start!

28 Jan 2020 13:45:10
Thecovenator, we better hope jj doesn't sign for killie, as he himself took the points from us with his goal v killie mate.

28 Jan 2020 13:48:27
Badly need a RF👍.

28 Jan 2020 13:56:30
Jones had nothing to do with losing to Celtic struth as when he made that tackle in was 2-0 in stoppage time. He isn't impressing him clearly in training or whatever but to say he is being blamed for losing to them is total nonsense.

28 Jan 2020 14:13:56
I do recall 99% posts on here after cup game or St Mirren . can’t mind what one . demanded we got rid of jones
( not me I may add )
Stevie reads these posts and duly obliged . now youse have changed your minds and blaming him
🥺🥴. What’s to do Stevie?

28 Jan 2020 14:24:42
Coldo we just brought one back, hastie.
Also reading a poster mentions a guy Luis from Portugal, heard this last week, till then never heard of him.
Can play rf or anywhere across midfield.

28 Jan 2020 14:51:08
JJ is just another O’Halloran. Pace and nothing else, couldn’t cut it at a higher level and stinking attitude. Good riddance if he goes. Led to believe there’s nothing wrong with Barker’s attitude, he’s just rubbish 😂.

28 Jan 2020 15:28:29
if hastie can't cut it at rotherham john then we can hardly be optimistic about him producing the goods for us? Never heard of luis either, do you know what team he play's for? 👍.

28 Jan 2020 16:22:58
Agree re Hastie, don’t think we can loan him out again as he has played for us and Rotherham this season
Luis is with sporting Lisbon played ten times this season. Including three Europa league games.
Also plays Portugal under 21s

Described to me as very muck like arteta when we signed him.

28 Jan 2020 11:27:45
Lots of comments about how much we miss alfie. Imo our 3 poorest performances of the season have been our last 3 games ( forget the first old firm game as we just got it wrong on the day ) . Yes alfie has missed them. But Defoe scored in 2 of them. I believe we miss tav as much as alfie as the whole shape changes without him. Thoughts welcome!

28 Jan 2020 12:00:13
Agree newblue i think tav is the greater loss the majority of our attacks when he's playing come down that side, people complaining about his defensive side but f$@k me the attacking threat in overall balance to our team certainly out weighs that.

28 Jan 2020 12:18:39
Morelos far more influencial than tav. Morelos does a lot more than score. Gives defenders an absolute nightmare for 90mins. Defoe just there to stick it in. He cannot effect a game the same way morelos can.

28 Jan 2020 12:19:32
Newblue u could be right re tav in an attacking sense.

28 Jan 2020 13:06:27
Think the question is if Alfie has played in he last 3 how much he would have affected performance . Fair enough Defoe scored against st mirren and a penalty against Stranraer but it’s the other things that we miss when Alfredo’s not playing . I think we saw against Hearts that if Defoe doesn’t score he’s pretty much a passenger.

28 Jan 2020 13:55:04
Paul i agree, in regards tav we have players at club that could do as well as him, but in alfie we have a player that would cost millions to replace, even then we won't get another alfie .

28 Jan 2020 14:20:08
Hearts was out of the ordinary day . They had millions more than us to prove . and they did . They were simply the much more fired up team on day.

28 Jan 2020 14:23:05
We like wee Defoe as does Gerard hence gets little stick. He's 37 and slow. Generally no real threat against Hearts. Morelos in different league, a real handful for 90 minutes plus. We need another quality Hitman from player sales. Defoe is a good guy but merely a stand in for the no 1.

28 Jan 2020 09:42:30
Is Morelos's suspension now up and can he play tomorrow night?

28 Jan 2020 09:53:52
Yes free to play again. I think if he is ruled out through suspension between now and the end of the season his time is up. This is one of the most important seasons in our clubs recent history and he is costing us.

28 Jan 2020 10:08:24
I agree C. I know we shouldn't have to rely so heavily on one player, but he is exceptional. Maybe he can make it up tomorrow night with a hat trick!

28 Jan 2020 10:46:33
Take away his goals and hold up play in the first half of the season and we would’ve been nowhere near the top of the league wait till he is not here anymore he is what he is souness, Gazza, diouf, Big dunc the list goes on the refs are at they pick our best player out and book and send them off to try to get the suspension count up leading to a ban coming up to a big game for us look what they done to Ryan Jack when we signed him all over him like a rash the moved on to Alfredo a don’t care what he does he gives his all for this club alright some daft things come out now and again so what that young guy is exceptional talent and will make us a lot of money when he does go and for what it’s worth I have seen a lot of strikers in my 60 years watching the bears stein, DJ, parlane, mcoist, hately, MO, moles and this wee guy would hold his own in that company he’s one of the best we have ever had he gives his all when he pulls that blue jersey on a wish we had more like him if we win the league it will be because of him were we are at this moment is because of him you couldn’t buy a player like him anywhere else in Europe for at least 50m he has it all get behind him don’t fall for the media crap rant over! 🇬🇧.

28 Jan 2020 11:01:17
The problem with saying ‘if he’s ruled out with suspension again his time is up’ is that he’s only 1 booking away from another suspension. Do you really expect any player to go through the rest of the season without another booking?
I agree that we really really need him, Defoe is a brilliant finisher but he’s a totally different player to Morelos and the team don’t know how to alter their style of play to suit when Defoe is playing, hence he ends up looking pretty ineffective at times.
I love Morelos as a player, always have and have always stated his pluses far outweigh his negatives. However I was still absolutely raging after the last old firm (even though we won) as I could see what the consequences of two of the most stupid bookings ever were going to have for us, and so it’s been proven. Dropping points to Hearts (again) and the likely hood that he’ll soon be suspended again as he’s likely to pick up a booking sometime in the next few games.

28 Jan 2020 11:08:47
I love him as much as the next person mate but he is costing us. He can score a million times for us but if he is suspended at crucial times of the season then his goals will end up meaning nothing again. Money brought in for him could pay for dare I say it an Edouard who could light up the league and not cost us when it matters. Not hating on Morelos. Like I said I love the guy to bits. The problem is I love Rangers more.

28 Jan 2020 11:55:02
Defoe has scored the same amount of league goals as Morelos.
What more do you want from a back up striker?
We’ve only scored a handful of goals less than the Tims and have played a game less.
Suddenly we’re back to blaming Morelos for all our woes after one dreadful league performance where not player deserved pass marks.
Surely it’s up to the rest of the team to step up and play in his absence? Kent, Jack, Davis, Aribo, Kamara etc. All posted missing on Sunday.
But let’s all take the easy option and blame the guy that was actually missing.
The irony of saying a couple of weeks ago the Media were trying to chase Morelos out of Scotland and and ONE bad result later some of you lot have turned on him.
You should hang your heads in shame. 🤡.

28 Jan 2020 12:30:29
Hang your heads in shame for telling it like it is? Let's do the easy thing and blame the guy that was actually missing. Because it wasn't his fault he was missing in the first place. We need our strongest team available for EVERY game. If you are not available for a run of matches because of stupidity then ofcourse you are partly to blame! 🤡🤡.

28 Jan 2020 13:58:58
I'm thetinman, yes matey, nail on the head, in regards alfredo.

28 Jan 2020 14:30:13
You don’t think our team on its day, with our back up striker who has scored the same amount of league goals as Morelos should be too strong for a Hearts side who have been rank rotten all season?
But you think it’s Morelos’s fault? When everyone in the Rangers team on Sunday was rank rotten!
Did Morelos make them all play bad?
As I said easy target for the failings of the full team.
No wonder Kent, Jack, Davis, Kamara, Aribo etc can all have off days without any comeback when they know you and others will all quite happily blame Morelos. 👍🤡.

28 Jan 2020 15:04:12
Maybe I am wrong in the way I see the sending off at the midden it was full time Alfredo broke away he was knackered tried the old cutting across the defender and go down for a pen we have all done it if it came off and we get the pen nobody would’ve slated him he gets the yellow surprise surprise time wasted game over the next time the Manks play wee Johnston swan dives at st. boo and not a card in sight no moaning nae greeting it happens in a game since a wis a boy he is treated differently by the refs no doubt about it.

28 Jan 2020 15:27:28
Not once did I say it was Morelos' fault. I have said he is party to blame which he is. Him and 7 or 8 others!

28 Jan 2020 15:29:57
Pacman, do you think we would've had a better chance of winning if Morelos had played?

28 Jan 2020 15:47:07
Yes, but only if the rest of the team turned up. 👍
Do I think we would have won with Defoe in the team if the rest of the team turned up? Yes, that was obvious by the quality of our goal, the only time we really cut them apart.

28 Jan 2020 20:54:35
If we fdo not sign a striker before Friday the season is over 1game away from next suspension system not suitable for an aging Defoe needs biģ man up with him to upset defenders midfielders need to stop trying to walk it into the net oji not consistent jj full o rubbish and nae football see if man city Will take barker for ball boy duties saner ha a dog that barks.

28 Jan 2020 09:14:43
Just as an aside, Drew McIntyre WWE wrestler is in line for next WWE world championship belt. As my youngest says "Mon the Claymore"
Good luck mate, he is a massive bluenose btw.

28 Jan 2020 11:21:35
Thanks for the panto update.

28 Jan 2020 07:58:46
Awrite people . I don't really post on here much so here goes. I think gerards biggest mistake pre season was letting candeias leave especially for next to nothing. He worked well with Tav and offered us something we don't have now . He was certainly a better option than ojo, Barker, Jones.

28 Jan 2020 08:50:29
Agree with you but most on here didn’t rate him.

Simple case of you don’t know how good he is until he’s gone.

Watch for Tav, Goldson next season if SG listens to the experts on her 👍.

28 Jan 2020 09:46:41
Candia's wanted to leave though didn't he?

28 Jan 2020 10:12:31
Grumpy, yes apparently because he would not be first choice due to incoming players.

28 Jan 2020 14:12:31
Deniro72, candy didn't want to stick around as he wasnt garenteed he would be dropped, so byebye to anybody that thinks there too good to be dropped.

28 Jan 2020 07:37:52
It's clear that Stevie G has his favourites. For eg Goldson, Kamara, tav etc.

I believe the coming weeks are coming to be SG most important time. Still can't believe we lost against Hearts.

So. looks like we are trying to get shot of Brandon Barker, JJ (if we do I will be raging) possible recall to Jack Hastie.

Problem is it's late in the window and it's going to be tough to move these guys on. Hand on heart I think we had a very slim chance to win the league but now I dont. We lack quality in our squad. I said it months ago that we need to start rotating the squad. What do people see in Kamara? Yes he has some nice touches but he's too lightweight and isint the type of MF we need. I don't want to just single him out but we need strength and pace. Not one of our MF's has that. Striker wise too. We've bough so many duff MF's that we haven't even looked at a striker. We rely on a guy at 37 to run the channels etc when Morelos gets suspended. Never going to happen.

So. SG you've done great up until now but you have to start giving people chances. By that I mean don't do your usual like bring in them for one game and then bench them. Get Dochery in the team for a start. he's got pace and power and can score goals. Davis can't play week in week out. Nether can Defoe. CB you also need to start introducing Edmunsson. I know Hellander is injured but he's too slow and probably more suited to European football. Leave Polster where he is and don't let Flannagin near that team. Let JJ back in team. he's pacey and direct. Other than Kent we don't have that. A Striker on loan has to be a priority. I hear Shankkdnd mentioned which will never happen. we should have signed him before he went to Dundee utd. This is when the pressure is going to start to increase big time. Another thing get OJO back to Liverpool. he's not interested.

28 Jan 2020 09:41:33
Well said AS1974. Agree with all of this although I still believer we can win the title. It’ll be nip and tuck and both sides will drop points. Would like to see the game in hand played sooner rather than later although that doesn’t look likely.

28 Jan 2020 09:51:11
Ibrox for me. I think if we had more depth then I agree but we dont. It's clear we are trying to cut down the wage bill but we have the likes of Halliday etc taking a wage for nothing. Murphy could have been pivotal to the run in. We can't let Doc go or JJ. it's either that or SG is coming to bring in some youth which I can't see happening.

28 Jan 2020 00:16:42
it's all very well praising and or criticising Morelos again, yes he scores goals, yes he is valuable, but YES again second season in a row his hot head has cost us valuable points at a critical time, so what is the answer? SG said he had sorted himself out, but the evidence is still there, he IS a menace both good and bad. Maybe we need to replace him with a proven goal machine and then sell him for mega bucks before his value plummets downwards again?

I remember Alex Ferguson and Jock Wallace once said, one man does NOT make a team, time to pay attention to that and the bigger picture.

28 Jan 2020 07:16:42
He will be sold in the summer mate.

28 Jan 2020 07:30:42
I’m sure Morelos is off in the summer so you will get your wish then, but although Alf loses vital game time through suspension he is never out through injury which means his time on the pitch is probably better than many. We could throw millions at a replacement and not get the goals return that Alfie boy gives us. Honestly the problem is not Morelos it’s a lack of attack minded midfielders with the ability to hit the back of the net, a quality right winger which hopefully SG is about to address. No money to play with to build on what we have is a big part of the problem not Alf.

28 Jan 2020 07:33:12
Unfortunately, given the last 3 performances, it would appear that 2 players do make a team.

28 Jan 2020 07:45:14
Here are some facts to support my comments: premiership goals scored this season by midfielders: Jack 4, Arfield 2, Aribo 2, Davis 0, Kamara 0, so it’s easy to see why Morelos is vital and over relied upon. Take Jack and Morelos out as happened against Hearts and we are unlikely to win against any team that scores 2 goals. Other interesting facts: Ohno 1, Barker 1, Jones 0. We are carrying far too many passengers.

28 Jan 2020 07:59:43
Gerrard transfer spend £11million, Stendel £178k, yet we were played off the park hats off to Stengel.

28 Jan 2020 08:56:16
One swallow does not a summer make muppet.

28 Jan 2020 14:26:12
Ritchie1., wait until we sell alfie, people on here will be shouting we should have done all. And more to keep him, we won't get another alfie, for 15/ 20 million, I've followed rangers over 60 year, and have never seen a more prolific goal scorer in that time.

28 Jan 2020 16:38:41
i am of s similar age, Ally MzCoist, Jim Forrest, Colin Stein, Jimmy Millar, Ralph Brand Dado Prso, Nacho Novo, Mark Hateley and Marco Negri would all disagree with your view on prolific scorers.

28 Jan 2020 00:06:21
McGregor, Polster, Goldson, Katic, Barisic, Kamara, Davis, Arfield, Aribo, Morelos and Kent, Assuming Ryan Jack still injured.

28 Jan 2020 05:45:19
Hopefully he is fit. About time kamara had a spell out the team.