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21 May 2024 15:27:11
Liam Kelly to Rangers apparently?

Surely that means Butland is off if it's true?


1.) 21 May 2024 15:30:37
Heard this in Jan, he’s back up and home grown.

2.) 21 May 2024 15:32:04
Mccrorie and Mclaughlin both away so makes complete sense to bring a HG qualified GK in as 2nd choice. If Butland is going we would go and sign a number 1.

3.) 21 May 2024 15:37:07
I seen he’s coming back mate but I don’t see him being number one.

4.) 21 May 2024 15:37:48
Kelly is a number 2 keeper at best nowhere near good enough to be butland's replacement.

5.) 21 May 2024 16:37:12
So is Kelly coming back as no2 because he's not good enough as no1.

6.) 21 May 2024 16:42:43
Boot in the baws for young McCrorie.

7.) 21 May 2024 17:50:03
McCrorie will be away.

8.) 21 May 2024 18:28:35
Sir Walter I think Mccrorie needs to look after himself, criminal he got no games, even Dumbarton in cup.

9.) 21 May 2024 19:15:12
8 keepers in the B squad maybe 1 good enough for back up? , you would hope .

10.) 21 May 2024 19:41:20
Cairn hill. Like who, with exception of Mccrorie none played first team, majority not played b team.

11.) 21 May 2024 19:50:43
Agree John, league cup was always a competition the 2nd keeper played, hasn't been the case for some time.



22 Nov 2023 17:54:00
Reports saying that we are back in for Ryan Kent on loan?


1.) 22 Nov 2023 18:17:54
It didn't work the first time, I'm not sure why anyone would think it would work this time. it's a massive no from me.

2.) 22 Nov 2023 18:29:22

3.) 22 Nov 2023 18:34:37
Praying this is not true. Would be an utter embarrassment for the club. Cannot see this happening.

4.) 22 Nov 2023 18:48:07
Can't really see this one happening when we have Sima, Cantwell, Matondo, McAusland, Wright that can all play there, never mind the likes of Lawrence, Lammers and Hagi (hopefully we bring him back in January! ) that could fill in.

5.) 22 Nov 2023 20:45:24
Don’t want him anywhere near our club.

6.) 22 Nov 2023 20:58:43
It must be in PC s thoughts so it’s okay with me.

7.) 22 Nov 2023 21:11:45
How’s its in PC thoughts. I’ve now seen him anywhere stating he wants kent, scrambled.

8.) 22 Nov 2023 21:14:31
Absolutely no chance of Kent coming back.

9.) 22 Nov 2023 22:54:55
Maybe PC has a pet crocodile and wants someone to look after it.

10.) 22 Nov 2023 23:51:19
Lol still blue, don't we all?

11.) 23 Nov 2023 00:34:05
Sorry John227 but only going on reports that we are back in for Kent only PC could agree to that.

12.) 23 Nov 2023 07:31:46
I'll leave it to philippe clement ?
If he wants and thinks he can get the best out of ryan kent then i'll back our manager ?.

13.) 23 Nov 2023 08:11:31
It’s paper talk tho egg so John is correct PC hasn't said anything of the sort.

14.) 23 Nov 2023 09:49:51
If clement wants kent i'd be very concerned re his judgement.

15.) 23 Nov 2023 10:15:04
Yeah sounds like paper talk to me, Kent had his chance; didn’t take it.

16.) 23 Nov 2023 17:00:32

17.) 23 Nov 2023 22:32:06
Absolute nonsense. Kent is not coming back on loan. ?‍♂️.



24 Aug 2023 22:16:28
Guys got sent this. Prob BS

Tav had moved into his new flat when it was finished. So work could be done in his house. 3 weeks earlier than meant to be finished he's now moving back into his house because the club has asked him to rent it out to club cause a major signing is coming. Hazard has been at Murray park today after team had all left to meet Beale. Castore are pushing and apparently paying for it ;-) French winger signing and we are in advanced talks for loan of Harry souttar. All from Tav and from players liaison officer. Hazard might wait till after PSV next week for outcome but he is here and in talks. American guy is involved also apparently new director a lot going on big time ?‍♂️.


1.) 24 Aug 2023 22:47:14
I swear that had more twists and connections than a Christopher Nolan film, I’ve got a migraine just thinking about it. Are you saying you’ve heard a rumour that Hazzard is signing? And Tav is moving?

2.) 24 Aug 2023 22:58:56
Are people falling for this?

3.) 24 Aug 2023 23:00:22
Would love to see him at Ibrox can't see it though.

4.) 24 Aug 2023 23:07:29
This rumour is a choking hazard ?.

5.) 24 Aug 2023 23:08:49

No French winger and Hazard is close to confirming his retirement.

6.) 24 Aug 2023 23:29:40
Dunno weather to believe this or not as I've seen to many posts about hazard today ?.

7.) 24 Aug 2023 23:31:20
Sorry but that's no happening.

8.) 24 Aug 2023 23:37:38
A lot of iinfo to digest in the one post. The type of rumour you love to see late on a Thursday night!

9.) 24 Aug 2023 23:43:19
Where to start with this one ?? "Tav get out yer flat till we rent it oot for Eden Hazard" James Bisgrove. Probably ?.

10.) 25 Aug 2023 00:30:12
And another whopper.

11.) 25 Aug 2023 00:32:31
?? you've lifted that straight from twitter. RVP on the way with Alan Smith as well.

12.) 25 Aug 2023 01:03:53
Well he’s certainly got the injury record to fit in lol
Can’t see it personally but u never know in football.
Think he’ll end up in the MLS.
As cheers for sharing mate ??.

13.) 25 Aug 2023 02:03:50
Jester is back.

14.) 25 Aug 2023 02:14:35
Can’t believe I’m having to write this. Hazard will not be a Rangers player. My info that there isn’t a French winger coming in either.

The day one of these WhatsApp rumours is anything but a windup is the day Scotland win the World Cup?.

15.) 25 Aug 2023 06:18:57
Hazard would be another Aaron Ramsey never fit and an unwanted distraction for Michael Beale. Hopefully the H Souttar rumour is correct and Rangers take him on a 12 month loan, Michael Beale said at his last presser that there is a possibility of one more coming in and this player would go straight into the starting 11.

16.) 25 Aug 2023 06:43:44
As1974 you were slagging Harry Souttar off yesterday.

17.) 25 Aug 2023 06:57:46
More chance of signing Bo and Luke Duke.
Twitter has a lot to answer for.

18.) 25 Aug 2023 08:38:28
Superb NRD, one for the oldies.

19.) 25 Aug 2023 09:09:52
Celtic fans creating these rumours at the same time as greeting about needing players themselves. ??.

20.) 25 Aug 2023 09:15:58
Baz if ye know ye know. ?.

21.) 25 Aug 2023 09:32:17
Shame you can't post GIF's because the wee boy crying "bull" would getting posted numerous times.

{Ed033's Note - You can post gifs by submitting the url location of the gif in the posting forms. What is the www url location of this gif?

22.) 25 Aug 2023 11:39:13
Book line and sinker ????? lol what age are some of the posters on this page ?.

23.) 25 Aug 2023 11:44:42
u saying scotland won't lol. ?.

24.) 25 Aug 2023 12:44:17
So, we are signing Hazard and a French winger, so we`ve gone from not needing wingers to bring in two and now including Matondo in the squad . After Ramsey two seasons ago, I`ll never say never, but it would the same problem to me, Hazard is never fit. To be fair to Ramsey though he was always trying to get fit, by all accounts Hazard disappears into MacDonalds to eat away his problems.

25.) 25 Aug 2023 17:09:27
More whoppers than a BK drive through.

26.) 25 Aug 2023 17:37:31
Let’s try this GIF thing.



01 Apr 2022 14:41:41
Looks like Alfredo is out for Sunday. I'd start Sakala, Roofe and Kent up top.


1.) 01 Apr 2022 15:01:20
Sakala through the middle Kent ramsey aribo behind him.

2.) 01 Apr 2022 15:23:22
Ramsey for me 👍.

3.) 01 Apr 2022 15:26:47
Not a chance Sakala will start on Sunday imo.

4.) 01 Apr 2022 16:53:43
John sakala probably won't start that is just what I'd like to see. Roofe was crap the last old firm I'd like to see us really hit them.

5.) 01 Apr 2022 17:20:34
Livi I Lao doubt he will start aribo and Ramsey.
We need to be physical imo
I’d play Ramsey worth the gamble.

6.) 01 Apr 2022 17:26:49
Why not John? He's direct with pace. Sonething thier backline couldn't cope with. Roofe is more intelligent with no pace. So that's why I would play Roofe off Sakala. I keep saying he's wasted on the wing.

7.) 01 Apr 2022 18:20:01
Sakala is more of an impact player for me and there's no way i'd start him against celtic 🤔It would be Ramsey, Roofe and Kent for me 👍.

8.) 01 Apr 2022 18:21:58
To be fair to roofe in the last old firm game he got absolutely no service from our standoffish midfield and most of our team had stinkers that day tbh 🤔.

9.) 01 Apr 2022 18:50:54
Sakala not starting it will be roofe this was always my worry if Alfredo got injured no other striker that can hold the ball up.

10.) 01 Apr 2022 20:24:08
Roofe has other strengths and attributes we can play to stormtrooper 🤔I don't/ wouldn't want to think we're a one man band!

11.) 02 Apr 2022 00:16:05
Just like Ross and Robbie McCrorie before them I think we should surprise them on Sunday and have either Tony Weston or Rory Wilson up top it's worked in the past for us and they know where the goal is.

12.) 02 Apr 2022 07:24:58
Alb why would you play a 16 year old who has not played for b team yet.

13.) 02 Apr 2022 14:18:21
I would certainly have Weston on the bench before Itten. Poor decision bringing him back from loan!

14.) 02 Apr 2022 20:12:19
Berkshire not really it was cover for international call up
Certainly not good enough imo.

15.) 04 Apr 2022 00:02:55
John, they might as well have signed me and I haven't kicked a ball seriously for about 30 years, than bring Itten back. The guy is a liability. Just one of many poor players signed in the past two years.
Its been a very frustrating day in a very frustrating season and my worry is that I don't see next season being any better unless there is a fundamental change at the Club starting with the removal of Parks, Graham and Wilson and somehow I fear that all three will still be there showing their incompetence and causing us more embarrassment next season.

16.) 05 Apr 2022 05:53:04
Starting to worry about gio he's got to drop aribo and send a message give youth like Lowry a run to end season. For me this nonsense with goldson kamara aribo Kent all wanting out not helping us . to be fair to kamara did sign a new deal so we get money.

17.) 07 Apr 2022 13:26:07
Go for. Lowry is carrying injuries and is having issues recovering from C.V..



30 Jan 2022 12:03:28
QPR have supposedly placed a big for Simpson. Take Lundstrum too for free.


1.) 30 Jan 2022 12:52:32
Makes sense also with his wages saved use them to help sign Soutter especially if there's any doubts over Heilanders return.

2.) 30 Jan 2022 13:06:15
1974, why would we give Lundstrum away if clubs would pay money for him?

3.) 30 Jan 2022 13:18:38
So who has came in for him DeBoer? Have you seen the wages he's on?

4.) 30 Jan 2022 13:22:04
Heard a lot of rumours about off field issues with Simpson, so hopefully a fresh start will help kick start his career again - as it's clear he doesn't have much of a future with us.

5.) 30 Jan 2022 13:41:17
De boer because no one wants to put for him.

6.) 30 Jan 2022 14:27:25
Seems good idea buy one get one free.

7.) 30 Jan 2022 14:51:13
Gers58, that deal is only on a Tuesday mate. Dominoes oo oo.

8.) 30 Jan 2022 16:22:05
There will definitely be a fee for lundstrum he was a 7-10million player last season n folk talking about giving him away for free 😂.

9.) 30 Jan 2022 16:50:01
7-10 million pound player? On Championship Manager maybe but he's never been worth that. If we could get 2m that would be outstanding business but I think it will be a loan if anything tbh.

10.) 30 Jan 2022 17:17:05
He's 4.5 million on transfermarkt. Not exactly science but still shows he has a value. Who knows who has made enquiries for JL.

11.) 30 Jan 2022 17:42:51
MoC Sheffield United turned down 7 million offer from Crystal Palace last January.

12.) 30 Jan 2022 18:02:55
Well maybe the bread man can try another offer, I'm sure he'd get him a bit cheaper this time.

13.) 30 Jan 2022 19:55:37
Quick somebody phone crystal palace and offer them him for 4 million bargain deal 🤣.

14.) 30 Jan 2022 19:57:51
Simpson supposedly struggling being away from home.

15.) 30 Jan 2022 22:10:32
John his proved he can play in the epl even as a squad player he’s prob worth 3/ 4million to a prem team or top championship side.

16.) 30 Jan 2022 22:14:33
Simpson isn't a bad player but for months I have heard that he is finding it difficult to settle in to life away from his family. remember he was at Bournemouth for pretty much all of his football playing life. As for Lundstram, the sooner he is away the better. He was never going to have the right mentality having played for teams that were always on the back foot!




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26 May 2024 08:07:49
Now the dust has settled it's harder to take these defeats but to be honest it's getting the norm now.

I think we have to sell Butland if we want to invest in that team.

Tav has been a great servant but if he's anywhere near that team and also captain next season Phil can collect his P45.

Id give big Leon another year. Very solid. i'd give Davis a mention too. Came in to the team and done well.

Yilmaz i'd sell too. Far too injury prone.

We need to build the team around Sterling and play him at RB.

Diomande looked good yesterday. Raskin did well too.

I like Cantwell and to be honest at this moment he's our only creative player in that midfield.

Id be getting rid of Dessers, Matondo, Wright, Dowell, Jack, Lundstrum, (Barasic is going) and Goldson.

Would I sigh Sima? Yes but only at the right money.

This can't happen again next season.

We need to but well to have any chance of winning anything next season.

On to the ref yesterday. One word. "Joke! "

Tough times the now bears.


1.) 26 May 2024 10:25:01
I hate to say this but we are now a spent force, we have no real serious investment channels, very limited money to bring in new players. I am old enough to remember the 79-85 times when had attendances under 15k …. yes under 15k we sat mid table then came the glory years. And regardless of your opinion of Sir David without him that would never have been achieved, he brought in Souness, Woods, Butcher and a raft of others and we yearn for those days to return, however these are now ancient history and whether we like it or not regardless of our relegation or not we sat back and basked on those years failing to properly invest and look to the future. And now onto recent history, many managers have come and gone and not achieved success so what do we do?
IMO Phil is a decent manager and has an eye for players, but not all players can fit into the physicality of the Scottish game, O fear some dark times ahead for a couple more years then we will come back.
Sit down, hold on and believe ‘we are the people’.

2.) 26 May 2024 10:25:23
I really am sickened mate. Honestly they are becoming a real drain to me on a daily basis. Not sickened at the performance just the inevitable kick in the balls. Its almost cruel. i'm very glad of the break now get my mind off it.

3.) 26 May 2024 10:52:14
It’s getting rid of guys like matondo that’s near impossible, he’s on big money, he’s a poor player and he’s regularly injured.

4.) 26 May 2024 11:44:34
Was it not David Homes that brought in Souness?



24 May 2024 08:06:39
Heres a question lads.

If we get beat tomorrow is PC's position under the spotlight?

Personally I think if plays the same way and with the same personal then I think yes.

If we fail to win against our biggest enemy no manager can survive that.


1.) 24 May 2024 08:45:42
Bit early for that considering the mince he has. Got to win first auld firm next season.

2.) 24 May 2024 09:11:33
As1974 I don't think it will mate but if he loses then he starts the new season under pressure.

3.) 24 May 2024 09:14:07
I don't t
Think he has any leeway with personnel, even a few of those who play will not last more than 60 minutes.
Playing style?, again we are limited because of what we have on the pitch.
Let's be realistic lads!

4.) 24 May 2024 09:19:28
Our biggest enemy is fans like you that think every time we lose a few games we change the manager. We need to support the manager and give him the resources to create a winning team.

5.) 24 May 2024 09:33:10
Sense at last simababyjive.

6.) 24 May 2024 09:35:57
Pep wouldn’t make a good team out of our players and all our injuries ?‍♂️.

7.) 24 May 2024 09:50:02
That's pure single fish, Storm. Behave!

8.) 24 May 2024 10:27:27
Cant expect PC to accomplish much given the players he has been saddled with.

9.) 24 May 2024 10:41:58
Very well said sima.

10.) 24 May 2024 10:48:09
@Sima. What you on about? It's a simple question. We can't keep playing the same way against Centric and expect a win.

11.) 24 May 2024 11:12:46
It took Gerrard 3-years and it might take Clement 2-years but he's a strong leader and everyone must support what he's doing.

12.) 24 May 2024 17:00:13
PC will be given time to bring his own players into the club, and reading the media news Jefte will be the first one through the door.
The way forward is not to constantly change managers.



19 May 2024 09:52:12
Having watched the game again here are my thoughts.

Dessers isn't clinical enough. I like him and don't get me wrong he runs his heart out but misses too many chances. Needs to be sold.

Cantwell is our only creative midfielder which is worrying and btw scored a great goal.

Young Ross Mac scored a great goal and has played well the last couple of games. Also scored a great goal.

Having watch Diomande in every game he goes missing. I wouldn't pay anywhere near the money he's valued at. 4.5 is it?

I know we have a makeshift back line but jeezo.

How much have Tav fallen away over the last couple of weeks?

How high are our defenders sitting? First goal is one pass from the midfield and Shankland is through.

2nd goal is actually laughable. Either Silva or Yilmaz not picking up thier man at the back post.

And the 3rd. Think it's Yilmaz doesn't go with the runner.

We play that high up next Sat and we are in for a drubbing.

This team certainly knows how to put thier fans through the ringer!


1.) 19 May 2024 10:53:22
It's not just been the last few weeks with Tav he's never been a good defender.

2.) 19 May 2024 10:56:24
Don’t see any advantage in selling Dessers, he’s always fit, runs all day and scores loads of goals. I agree that we should be purchasing another forward to potentially be our number 1 striker but having a guy like Dessers in the squad is a real strength for us.

3.) 19 May 2024 12:41:47
I'm with you Cammy regarding Tav but over the last few weeks especially he can't even pass!

I get you Dado but he misses too many chances and think we should cash in. He won't be out number 1 striker next season.

4.) 19 May 2024 13:15:46
If he can't pass the ball why is the manager still allowing him to take all the free kicks and corners, it's a shambles from top to bottom at present.

5.) 19 May 2024 13:18:52
I agree AS, can’t see him being first choice but we’d need to get good cash for a guy who has scored 20+ goals, first in years to do so. I can’t see somebody paying crazy money so I suspect he’ll be here fighting for a place in the team. We’ll see, I’m rarely right on these things ??.

6.) 19 May 2024 14:15:10
I’m kinda for dessers staying but if someone were to offer us our money back would you take it? Probably yes.

7.) 19 May 2024 15:55:33
Yes, gofor, would have to b money back t least.

8.) 19 May 2024 16:41:24
I also think/ want big dessers to remain part of our first team squad, but not as our no.1 striker ?We absolutely need a better no.1 striker than dessers ?.

9.) 19 May 2024 18:41:32
Dessers to stay? Did you see the chances he missed?

The one were the ball was squared it to him was actually harder to miss than score, but somehow he manages it. Time and Time again.

10.) 19 May 2024 18:58:10
Dessers get slaughtered by some on these pages, despite his efforts and more than reasonable goal return. The problem is that we've no viable striking options that are not or have not been available to rotate with Dessers. Our main issues are a poor defence and a midfield that doesn't score anywhere near enough goals, it's unreasonable to expect Dessers to bail them out all the time.



14 May 2024 21:28:52
Where has this 2nd half performance been?
Cantwell stopped his diving and played out his skin.

Btw hats off to Cyril. Yip he misses chances, but what would we have done without him?

Great to see some of the young lads come on.


1.) 14 May 2024 21:33:59
Yes they did a lot better I thought silva wad more dangerous on the right and teamed well with cantwell.

2.) 14 May 2024 21:53:16
What a comeback! amazing. That's why I love the rangers.

3.) 14 May 2024 21:55:23
Didn't see any diving from Cantwell at all, he got kicked off the park 1st half.

4.) 14 May 2024 22:35:54
Didn't see any diving from Cantwell. I seen multiple players leave one on him though.

5.) 14 May 2024 22:35:57
TJ he goes down too easy.

6.) 14 may 2024 22:38:23
wilkins, after the past 3 weeks, there's really no answer to that,

7.) 14 May 2024 22:41:16
TJBB you were writing off McKinnon on the live chat because a Dundee player beat him to the ball ?

Then we wonder why more youngsters don’t get game.

8.) 14 May 2024 23:02:30
Bang on the money TJBB56? Absolutely no diving from cantwell tonight the dundee players were trying to kick cantwell off the park and he came in for very rough treatment from the dundee players, with little protection from the ref, so i don't know what your talking about As1974? no diving from cantwell this evening pal!

9.) 14 May 2024 23:03:29
Cantwell diving jeez… there’s a new one. Kicked and kicked, not sure you appreciate the affect on your body during the game and the following days of getting kicked repeatedly while moving.



10 May 2024 17:26:52
Can't believe Phil just said we can still win if we draw tomorrow. That's worrying.


1.) 10 May 2024 17:34:09
Technically he is correct but he said we are going for the win.

2.) 10 May 2024 17:55:45
How's he correct? It's a win or the league is done.

3.) 10 May 2024 18:12:30
What he says to media and what he thinks are two diff things. Everyone knows.

4.) 10 May 2024 18:21:45
Any dropped points tomorrow, the league is gone.

5.) 10 May 2024 18:33:44
C. mon he's trying to calm everyone he said we will. be going for it and has to manage expectations we should know by now he's offensive.

6.) 10 May 2024 18:49:11
Unlikely but factually correct.

7.) 10 May 2024 18:54:45
I have a resigned feeling for tomorrow. We couldn't beat them at Ibrox last month when there were none of they're fans and they should have been 4 or 5 up at half time. It certainly is hide behind the sofa day tomorrow. Last time we won at Celtic Park was 2020 - 4 years ago!

8.) 10 May 2024 19:23:24
As with 2 games left? And 3 point gap.

9.) 10 May 2024 19:26:18
He is 100% correct in what he says tho as Celtic could lose their last two games. It's not going to happen but you can’t have a go at someone for saying that.

10.) 10 May 2024 20:38:15
So Jack Butland does an interview before it and says it's a must win. Then Phil says we can still win the league with a draw? Come on. Everyone knows it's a must win. If you think otherwise then you're kidding yourself!

11.) 10 May 2024 21:35:10
As our manager can count mate, two games to go 3 points ahead, it's not hard. We all know the league is gone if we don't get 3 points manager included. I'm not sure what you were expecting him to say there? You want him to say yes, the league is gone, then someone will say but there 6 points to play for, he'll look like a right idiot, chucking it before it's mathematically impossible. Let's not look for things that aren't there, he was asked a question answered it best way he could.

12.) 10 May 2024 22:21:59
As1974 are you for real, he’s trying to keep everyone’s stress and anxiety in check we all know it’s a must win game but we’re not the ones trying to get all the players in the right frame of mind. No sportsperson plays to their true potential if they walk onto the pitch full of fear. Cannot believe this needs explaining.

13.) 10 May 2024 22:37:43
Our record at Parkhead is not good but Hearts record was worse and they won there same with Ross Co record against us but they beat us. The game tomorrow is going to be hard but never write off the Rangers.

14.) 10 May 2024 23:19:56
Come on if Beale had said that you wouldn’t be saying he’s technically correct he would be getting dogs abuse it’s a must win game and a strange comment from the manger in my opinion.

15.) 10 May 2024 23:37:26
I want him to be honest and stop talking Bs! Simple.




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28 May 2024 09:54:36
Lundstrum stays in that team then Phil would be better leaving with him.




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23 May 2024 23:21:39
It's Saturday mate.




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01 May 2024 07:52:21
People are giving you some fact rather than BS. Have a bit of respect.




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30 Apr 2024 22:17:34
Meant to be Brazilian. My wife's friend was at the Ibrox tour and it was cut short apparently.




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21 Apr 2024 11:29:12
If we get Shankland on a free then it's a no brainer. Forgot trying to negotiate with Hearts. They'll want stupid money.





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28 May 2024 09:56:24
Balegeon is a great back up. If Goldson goes as well as Davis then he's needed. i'd sell Souttar also.




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26 May 2024 10:35:12
As you wouldn't keep Cantwell or Balegeon?




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24 May 2024 11:49:53
If he starts then it's game over.




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24 May 2024 10:48:09
@Sima. What you on about? It's a simple question. We can't keep playing the same way against Centric and expect a win.




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22 May 2024 22:52:14
Lundstrum shouldn't be near that team. Nor should Tav.

No Cantwell?




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