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20 Nov 2024 19:38:05
Heard yesterday at work that Propper is heading back to Holland in January and we have another CB lined up on loan until the summer.
The lad had mixed information about Propper being a loan with obligation and another saying loan with option.
1.) 20 Nov 2024 19:59:11
Hearing loan with obligation, small profit.
2.) 20 Nov 2024 20:19:45
Hopefully it's a left footed cb and just hope he's a good as his partner on the right side then I'd be well happy.
3.) 20 Nov 2024 20:25:50
Heres hoping. he's been very very poor.
4.) 20 Nov 2024 20:58:26
It's a shame it's never worked out for him but at least they are not wasting time and moving him on. He's not looked comfortable in the spl at all. If he only cost the reported 1.2m and we're making a small profit then it's not the worst outcome.
5.) 20 Nov 2024 21:09:08
Simply hasn't worked he's not suited to our game.
6.) 20 Nov 2024 21:13:43
Thanks for the info bellshill, hearing any incomings?
7.) 20 Nov 2024 21:40:29
Wasn’t he the captain at his previous Dutch club?
I think that the SPL doesn’t suit him like a few others that clubs have signed.
E. g. Lammers, Itten, Alvez,
8.) 20 Nov 2024 21:41:13
He looked like a stop gap, and hasn't improved our starting 11, so would be happy enough to see this happen. I worry about how many loans we're relying on though. Particularly the one where we don't have any control over next steps as seems to be the case with Cerny and Kasawanijro.
9.) 20 Nov 2024 23:39:10
Signing hasn’t worked out, shake hands and move on.
10.) 20 Nov 2024 23:40:51
Yo kimbo there's is an option to buy kasanwijro I beleive. Let's just hope he hasn't torn his ACL or hell now be out for the season.
11.) 21 Nov 2024 06:22:31
We must be looking at getting another cb in then.
12.) 21 Nov 2024 08:54:50
It’s reckoned in football about 40% transfers are deemed a success. Only at our club do we expect 100% successful.
13.) 21 Nov 2024 09:58:32
Agree. With Johns point about most transfers don't work out but would also add that since the sales of Kamara I don't think we've had any success at player trading unless I'm forgotten someone.
14.) 21 Nov 2024 10:31:14
shame he was one that i thought would do well but alas no. clement has noticed that and not played him unless he has had to, says it all.
15.) 21 Nov 2024 12:14:35
Propper always looked like a panic signing due to Goldson going near the start of the season . It hard to believe we could find anyone worse than Connor was in his last season but we somehow managed it. You can`t win tough games in Scotland with a centre back and a centre forward with no physical presence.
Just hope they can move him on and bring in an actual left sided, physical centre back with a bit of pace .
16.) 21 Nov 2024 14:39:17
Didnt know anything about the guy before he signed. But surely koppen and clement are aware that a slow defender won't cope too well up here. Especially against celtic. We need legs all over the park.
17.) 21 Nov 2024 14:56:24
We don’t expect 100% John we would like more than 5% success rate tho which is the way it’s been since Gerrard left.
18.) 21 Nov 2024 14:56:31
Not an issue depending what u expect him to do. Weir was very slow.
19.) 21 Nov 2024 15:07:08
Didn’t he treble his wages by coming to us or something? Why would he leave unless it was to one of the top Dutch teams?
20.) 21 Nov 2024 15:19:25
Wishy 5% lol, Bajrami for 3.5m great singing, Diomande 4.5m can see flashes in him that really impressed me, Jefte for 800k unbelievable signing for that fee, Cerny very good signing, Propper get out money back, Kasanwirjo liked what I seen from him, Igamana 1.8m, would love to hear your opinion on these if we only get 5% correct.
21.) 21 Nov 2024 15:36:49
Wishy gerrad signed over 40 players in 3 years how many where a success?
22.) 21 Nov 2024 15:37:27
Wishy, Gerard signed over 40 players how many where successful?
23.) 21 Nov 2024 15:43:08
Signing even.
24.) 21 Nov 2024 16:00:35
Im sorry, I'm just not seeing anything in Igamane which makes me think he's going to be a success.
Goes without saying, hope he rams those words down my throat! And I'll fully support the boy whenever he's on the park.
25.) 21 Nov 2024 16:25:44
Asked about today to see if I could get any info on Proper, but there doesn't seem to be any chat about him potentially leaving.
26.) 21 Nov 2024 18:42:48
My Star, Bajrami may turn out to be a good signing but hasn`t shown much up to now . Igamane is a raw youngster and never worth the money we spent on him, Nsiala struggling in the B team, Diomande has been a dreadful signing, he doesn`t create, doesn`t score, constantly gives the ball away and generally lacks the discipline needed to play in a holding role. What does he do well and more to the point what did we see in him to spend £4.5 million. Add in Silva who was an awful signing, likewise Propper, a reserve goalkeeper who contributes nothing and Cortes who is always injured and Mr Koppens success rate drops dramatically, maybe not to 5% more like %33 but that's still not good.
27.) 21 Nov 2024 21:01:03
Igamana has potential wslgers and Rangers wanted Cortes before Koppen was even here Brown scouted him around a year previous playing for his club in Colombia, Nsiala no one knows about him yet but supposedly impressive in b team, Bajrami will be a top player for us and 3.5m is very cheap for a player with his creativity, see plenty of potential in Diomande, wait a few months and see about your 33% success rate and 50% I'm well happy with but in my opinion it will probably be above 50% with they players mentioned, hopefully Propper goes in January and a left footed cb signs.
28.) 22 Nov 2024 11:51:44
All these successful signings mystar this summer how are we 9 points behind Aberdeen?
29.) 22 Nov 2024 12:37:22
Let see where we are at the end of the season wishy, remember we lowered our wages budget by millions in the summer,50% of they players will be a success which is very good going.
30.) 22 Nov 2024 12:58:01
The reason we're 9 points behind Aberdeen is because out of the 11 league games they've won 10 and drew once a great record for old firm clubs that is why wishy.
31.) 22 Nov 2024 13:10:14
My Star, the original comment was about successful so far and for me that is 33% at best. Igamane is as raw as an onion, potential or not to pay £1.7million for a player who should be no nearer a first team place than Lovelace or even Gentles is a criminal waste of money at this time. Nsiala has struggled in the B team, have a look back at the goals they have lost this season, and you are in a very small minority if you can see anything in Diomande.
I would love you to tell us what you see that we don`t. Don`t care who scouted Cortes last year he was signed on Koppens watch, twice. At a time when money is tight and we have lost a lot of experienced players, success is measured by players making an impact in the first team which is only Barron, Jefte and to a lesser extent Cerny.
32.) 22 Nov 2024 14:11:54
Mystar a successful rangers signing is someone who wins trophies and beats Celtic. So far we have 0 successful signings from the summer and until we stop being 2nd and 3rd best it will stay that way. Take your standards off the floor your embarrassing the fanbase. Also stop making excuses about being 9 behind Aberdeen lol. They spent less than us and have managed to win 10 and draw one so why can’t we with all our succcesful signings?
33.) 22 Nov 2024 14:23:41
Lesser extent but Cerny is one of our best players this season, I can see many positive things in Diomande and clearly you can't wslgers, Cortes was impressive in a couple of games last season they players signed in the summer will have a higher success rate than 33% let's just wait and see.
34.) 22 Nov 2024 20:58:31
My Star let's not wait and see, we are talking about who has been a successful signing now.
Once again I challenge you to tell us all what are the positive things you see in Diomande .
Cerny has been good at times and terrible in almost equal measure, his miss against Lyon was Van Vossenesque, he has taken a long time to settle, far longer than a youngster you say we are all getting carried away over .
As for Cortes, he impressed in a couple of games last season then got a bad injury, off the back of which we have committed £4.5 million. He has now been injured a further twice, so there is no measure by which you can call him a success.
35.) 22 Nov 2024 21:18:20
Wslgers the positive things a see in Diomande are the way he just drops his shoulder and loses his man very easy and gets out of most situations and always has a killer ball in his game and a very good range of passing and also like digs and he covers back very well heard some say he's a lazy player but he's far from it in my opinion how many times has he won the ball deep in defence.
There you go mate.
36.) 22 Nov 2024 21:24:06
Let's see where Diomande is playing when he's 25 certainly be a better league than where he is now.
37.) 23 Nov 2024 12:23:05
My star, interesting viewpoint, I think I can remember him playing one killer ball ( which Dessers missed) and in fact I would have said his passing is poor, his assist numbers are very low if any at all.
I have seen him drop his shoulder and get away but its is usually followed by running into the next man or trying a Cruyff turn back to an opponent. His decision making is terrible.
I would agree that I would never call him lazy but I just don`t see what his main assets are and what position he would hold down in a midfield.
Hope you`re right about him and will hold my hands up if you are but a success so far, definitely not.
38.) 23 Nov 2024 12:39:57
2 Assist this season wslgers, just wait and see mate.
39.) 23 Nov 2024 17:08:46
We are Aberdeen so much better than us if the squad is brilliant?
12 Nov 2024 22:10:18
Any truth that we watched poku from Peterborough? Seemingly scored a hat trick in their last win.
1.) 12 Nov 2024 22:53:00
if his stats are anything to go by he looks good, be a good option to add to the right hand side.
2.) 12 Nov 2024 23:36:33
Doubt we could afford someone from posh, they’re players go for £5m+ normally.
3.) 12 Nov 2024 23:37:28
Looks like his contract is up next summer. With stats like his, I imagine English clubs will be lining up for him on a free.
4.) 13 Nov 2024 07:29:46
StevieG he is a free agent in the summer so would not need to pay anything apart from his wage.
5.) 13 Nov 2024 07:46:55
Stevie given his age and the fact he is English trained we could get him for a development fee. We've done it before.
6.) 13 Nov 2024 07:50:30
^seems like he's still just under 24, so I think English clubs would need to pay a decent development fee whereas we could get him for very little (like we did with Aribo) .
7.) 13 Nov 2024 07:53:35
StevieG2 contract is up end of the season so will be nominal fee I think.
8.) 13 Nov 2024 08:22:40
Brentford and Bournemouth type clubs be after him.
9.) 13 Nov 2024 09:05:43
They won't get him on a free, they would need to pay a development fee which would probably be a few million between English clubs, we would only need to pay a nominal fee due to cross border rules.
10.) 13 Nov 2024 10:22:28
You r correct ger.
11.) 13 Nov 2024 10:56:04
I posted a while ago about this but I got mixed up with him and a other with the same name. It's Kwame Poku not the poku from az that I had mentioned.
12.) 13 Nov 2024 11:13:37
Cool outsider.
13.) 13 Nov 2024 13:06:35
Peterborough are always quoted as wanting big fees for their players but they rarely get it and apart from the odd exceptional one that goes to the EPL the rest move on for a lot less . If this boy can be had on a pre contract and he`s any good we should move for him early in January. This is the kind of project signing that makes sense to me.
14.) 13 Nov 2024 16:04:51
English clubs in for him so we have no chance in our current state.
28 Oct 2024 18:27:13
I had a conversation at work today with a service user and he gave me the following information
We have 2 a bit down the line as stated by EHL I think. CB and CDM.
We have identified 4 players for pre contracts. He is under the impression that 1 is shankland, I personally don't think he is the answer. Never gave any other names.
He did say we could move for 1 possibly 2 should fees be low enough in January.
1.) 28 Oct 2024 19:34:20
From what i heard the pre-contract that are most likly be as these have been scouted a few times over the summer and season.
Lyall Cameron
Lawrence Shankland
Jack MacKenzie
Danny Armstrong.
2.) 28 Oct 2024 19:54:59
We’ll be lucky to be top 6 with those four.
3.) 28 Oct 2024 20:08:32
That’s paints a grim picture.
4.) 28 Oct 2024 20:14:06
God help us if that's the standard we want.
5.) 28 Oct 2024 20:19:38
Dado, we'll be lucky to be top six with our current players ?.
6.) 28 Oct 2024 20:23:26
Utter pish.
7.) 28 Oct 2024 21:01:42
I get Shankland isn't our first choice but we need a squad and on a free Shankland would be a great addition. Right now we have Danilo, Dessers and Iganame and all three are not decent 2nd choice options from the bench.
8.) 28 Oct 2024 20:52:44
Yeah you’re not joking SWS, I can just imagine PC trying to put a positive spin on top 6, I can just see the lap of honour on the last game. Tav doing to press conference saying ‘we’ll learn from this, trust us we’re hurting’. Christ I can just see it now mate.
9.) 28 Oct 2024 22:03:22
The 'story' will get better he says.
10.) 28 Oct 2024 22:22:13
Did we not get a KB from Dundee after bidding for Lyall Cameron on transfer deadline day? Reason being they wanted top dollar after selling to the east end lot earlier in the day. If so it would make sense that we would approach him at end of contract….
11.) 28 Oct 2024 23:18:51
Lyle Cameron is a cracking young player.
Jack McKenzie would be a great addition.
Danny Armstrong is a really good SPFL winger.
Shankland will score goals for us.
12.) 29 Oct 2024 00:03:56
Those 4 improve our team/ squad.
Armstrong is a very good player and would get plenty minutes for us.
McKenzie is meant be going to England.
Shankland would be in our 11 imo. He’s also a good back up for next season if we sign a better striker as 1st pick.
Cameron is a good young prospect.
Look at the guy Celtic signed he’s doing well.
Football snobbery to write players off when our squad is teri le.
13.) 29 Oct 2024 07:06:23
Its what we are missing. Players that know the league and what is expected at Rangers. Shankland on a small fee or free is a no brainer. Will Danilo ever be fit?
14.) 29 Oct 2024 07:11:21
How will the hearts striker score goals for us, oh aye its all the chances we create? he's scored loads this season?.
15.) 29 Oct 2024 07:37:28
Lyle Cameron has stood out every time we have played Dundee over last year and half, no brainier.
16.) 29 Oct 2024 07:40:20
I think we're keen on one of that list - Cameron, not so sure about the rest.
17.) 29 Oct 2024 07:41:57
Armstrong would improve our team currently, we don't have many wingers and go a few out injured
Shankland imo is better than dessers
Lyall Cameron is a good player also
Not 100% on McKenzie tho but if true you would think yilmaz would be offside as jefte not long in the door.
18.) 29 Oct 2024 07:52:52
From the 4 mentioned I think Cameron could have similar impact as Barron has had this season
Mckenzie is a solid LB that would provide good competition for the jersey and would add some height.
Shankland could score goals but I'm thinking squad player as I'm hoping for better
Armstrong decent spl player but again I'd be looking for better as i think he would just be another Scott Wright.
19.) 29 Oct 2024 09:05:03
Would take cameron and mackenzie if it meant selling ridvan and dowell.
20.) 29 Oct 2024 09:08:42
snobbery has got us no where in recent years!
21.) 29 Oct 2024 09:44:56
Would definitely try a punt for lennon Miller the boy's a top talent ?
Re shanks definitely upgrade n will get us needed much needed goals
All this not good enough is guff as we ain't scoring enough as it is
On a pre good buissness
Scottish knows our league
Top striker ? we look weak at times.
22.) 29 Oct 2024 09:45:48
Cameron would be a decent signing ?.
23.) 29 Oct 2024 09:46:40
We need more of a Scottish core to our team as think this is why we are struggling in our own league ?.
24.) 29 Oct 2024 10:46:42
Sell ridvan and sign Mackenzie… gear must be banging where your from!
25.) 29 Oct 2024 11:22:36
Did the original post say that the four players we are looking at signing pre contracts are playing in the SPL? I don`t think it does, so there no reason that they couldn`t be from England or Europe.
Personally I quite like the look of Cameron, Shankland would score more goals than our current strikers, not sure about the other two and definitely not sure that signing all four would improve our squad.
26.) 29 Oct 2024 12:30:49
Cameron and barron are midfield partners for scotland u21 and they have an amazing partnership, if we can also get Lennon Millar that would be an amazing midfield group as they know how to play together as work well on u21 squad.
27.) 29 Oct 2024 12:37:24
Say we do sign those 4 on pre contracts, lower spl style wages, won't be huge signing on fees and most importantly improves the floor of the squad. You can then spend what little money we may have on improving the first team.
It is painful at the minute looking at the bench and knowing there's only 3/ 4 players with any kind of look in at minutes no matter how the game is going.
28.) 29 Oct 2024 14:40:39
Very strong rumours today that the eastenders are courting lennon miller fs.
29.) 29 Oct 2024 18:40:53
Big tel he won’t be coming to us so it doesn’t matter
Fork remember 5 big chances every game we make ?.
30.) 29 Oct 2024 19:54:31
Yup sure do bud?.
31.) 29 Oct 2024 22:32:23
Storm your getting embarrassing man,12 against County 6 against malmo so 5 every game?.
18 Oct 2024 11:46:48
I'm hearing that we are considering a move to bring young Rory Wilson back to the club when his contract runs out at the end of the season. I personally think that this would be a great bit of business as he has progressed further at Villa and at 18 with a great knowledge of our club think he could be a perfect player for our current trading model.
1.) 18 Oct 2024 12:06:33
Unlikely I would have thought, he left for the lure of the EPL and money that he wouldn`t earn with us, that hasn`t changed plus Villa could probably sell him for millions before that. Even if he waits those clubs will be back in for him .
Can`t see him returning to Scotland unless his career stalls badly like Mebude and one or two others.
2.) 18 Oct 2024 12:56:43
Wanting over twenty grand a week from Villa to sign a new contract, says we have a 10% sell on and possibly that’s why we are mentioned.
3.) 18 Oct 2024 13:12:52
Would be lying if I said I had fully kept up to date on his development but has he not continued to bang in the goals down there?
Would be surprised if we got a look in if that was the case unless there are promises of first team opportunities.
4.) 18 Oct 2024 13:18:51
Host of clubs looking at him very doubtful he will be coming back to us.
5.) 18 Oct 2024 13:22:43
his agents are reportedly looking for more cash; amounts similar to what some 1st team players are getting. He can be got for a 6 figure sum of compensation from January so fee isn't an issue if he wanted to come back but the salary would be. don't think it will happen although he is a talent.
6.) 18 Oct 2024 16:53:35
Wilson to rangers won’t happen , when lerkusen and Milan want u, you are not coming to Scotland.
7.) 18 Oct 2024 17:03:34
Dias agree John boy might want first team football are you trying to say if he goes to rangers that Milan and other clubs still won’t be interested in him in a year or 2 after playing first team football at rangers.
8.) 18 Oct 2024 18:18:55
Boy would be our first choice number 9 now if he had remained at Ibrox. No chance of a return and nice to see being as loyal to Villa as he was to Rangers.
9.) 18 Oct 2024 18:26:48
RFC heis not returning to Rangers.
10.) 18 Oct 2024 20:09:32
Not a chance he is coming back to us.
11.) 18 Oct 2024 21:35:47
Hes asking for big money I think.
12.) 18 Oct 2024 21:44:10
Just isn't happening. He's being touted for bayern Munich on 30k a week.
13.) 18 Oct 2024 22:54:02
Unfortunately looks likely to leave out of contract in the summer so we'll miss out on any decent add ons.
14.) 19 Oct 2024 08:52:31
I'd love to see him returning, but unfortunately i just can't see it happening.
15.) 19 Oct 2024 11:58:39
Yeah he ain’t coming back, but hopefully villa get good amount of ? for him.
16.) 19 Oct 2024 15:21:15
Sure I read it would only be a development fee circa 230k as he's not for signing, may be wrong though.
17.) 19 Oct 2024 16:31:21
No way he is coming back up here!
Bigger fish to fry elsewhere and his agents are looking for BIG money.
18.) 19 Oct 2024 17:30:09
Fork, he would move for development fee, but other addons can be negotiated and added in.
19.) 19 Oct 2024 19:28:12
Cheers John?.
20.) 19 Oct 2024 21:31:45
Ain’t happening. This kid has multiple choices above and beyond anything we can offer. He will go on to score goals at international level.
21.) 20 Oct 2024 09:35:40
Scotty you are right. the issue he sees at the moment similar to when he left us is that he isn't getting a game. It will be the team who offer him the most plus promising him game time who win here. hopefully Villa offer him more cash and he stats there as that sell on is still in place for us if there was one.
24 Sep 2024 17:48:43
Anyone know who the trialist in the B team today was?
1.) 24 Sep 2024 18:11:06
Brando Williams.
2.) 24 Sep 2024 18:11:27
Brandon Williams.
3.) 24 Sep 2024 18:17:42
Need a cm before a fullback.
4.) 24 Sep 2024 19:06:23
He's a LB/ RB and going on trial for dangerous driving, apparently, has it been confirmed it was him?
5.) 24 Sep 2024 20:05:04
Would be a decent bit of business if it's Williams. Decent player.
6.) 24 Sep 2024 20:27:06
My star if they ain’t any CM available on a free that we want then we can’t sign one now can we.
7.) 24 Sep 2024 20:41:38
If it was him, how did he perform, what was the score.?
8.) 24 Sep 2024 20:59:53
he seemed to be listed at CB as Hutton and Devine would have been FBs can't be 100% though as no hints anywhere.
9.) 24 Sep 2024 21:13:43
Does anyone know if he played well?
10.) 24 Sep 2024 22:09:15
100% Williams one of the lads in our club showed me his picture. A good young player worth taking a chance on.
11.) 24 Sep 2024 22:21:59
Storm many cm still ooc.
12.) 25 Sep 2024 04:09:42
Yes they are but we may not fancy any of them.
13.) 25 Sep 2024 07:22:51
Haji scoring again what's big Phil not seeing?
14.) 25 Sep 2024 09:22:15
Storm your previous post you said if there is none cm available on a free we can't sign one can we, basically that post was bs then.
15.) 25 Sep 2024 09:28:59
Edouard Michut 21 ooc and he'd would play many games for us and we'll within our wage budget, probably under 10k. also
Marco van Ginken is still ooc.
anyway just glad it wasn't Williams.
16.) 25 Sep 2024 10:28:09
we hand him a contract and then he gets sent down ?.
17.) 25 Sep 2024 14:03:37
blue dreamer, you do realise the game was against Huddersfield u21s don't you. also 2 free kicks so not as if it shows he even played well, just can take a set piece. i'd imagine that PC doesn't watch these games but gets reports form his coaches if someone is doing really well, but that won't be Hagi.
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06 Nov 2024 11:05:47
John you seem to have a good knowledge of our B team just now. Was talking to a friend about the young lad Finlay Curtis and how well he's been doing this season. After last night I'm sure he is on 12 goals 2 assists in 15 games. I'm hearing he has caught the eye of first team coaches. Any insight into how close the lad is yo getting an opportunity for the first team?
1.) 06 Nov 2024 11:14:48
Bellshill, he is exactly same as guys like Wilson WestonDallas ure et al, they seem unable to step up a level.
Although I exempt Wilson as he left minute he was 16.
With the possible exception of Wilson who is being linked with moves to Germany and Italy the rest have disappeared.
2.) 06 Nov 2024 12:15:06
John, I honestly believe that some of the young players are trying to go up a level to English and European Football too quickly, sorry to say, but Scottish Football is probably better suited to them, until they get that extra bit of maturity in the SPL. I feel that if PC doesn't take a chance with them, and previous Managers, we'll never know.
3.) 06 Nov 2024 12:42:14
I`ve only had a couple of wee glimpses of the boy Curtis but he`s just turned 18 and he has already been away with the first team so he must be showing something.
Ure, Dallas and Weston stagnated in the youths too long because they obviously weren`t good enough but if Curtis has the talent and the right attitude then he he`ll get a chance.
4.) 06 Nov 2024 13:01:45
Curtis is same as the rest.
5.) 06 Nov 2024 13:02:36
Ure Dallas weston all played with first team,
6.) 06 Nov 2024 15:55:55
We seem to have had a variety of young players over the years who ripped it up at B Team level and then never progressed any further with us.
We all say they never got a fair chance at Rangers.
But in fairness like John says they haven't set the heather on fire elsewhere.
7.) 06 Nov 2024 17:16:20
MPH i feel that we hold onto them too long and ruin them, when they should be put out on loan so by the time they are 20 (we still think of them as youngsters) they have played 50-100 games.
8.) 06 Nov 2024 19:03:26
Curtis is the same as the rest? so we should just give up on youth football then as none of them are ever any good.
Ure actually got a couple of games and scored on his debut but never kicked on for some reason .
Weston got one sub appearance against Hearts at Tyncastle I think in the same game as McCausland and McKinnon also got on and they have got a chance so why not him? I think he was seen as being too lightweight and had a couple of unimpressive loans.
Not sure about Dallas ever getting a game but he`s made a good living as a VAR official (joke ) .
As you say though none of them have done anything since they left us.
9.) 06 Nov 2024 19:11:39
Good point BigDado.
I suppose it depends wha5 level the6 go to but any level in Scotland would be bette4 than the B Team as it would toughen them up.
10.) 06 Nov 2024 19:18:29
The lowland league was an absolute disaster for our youth setup. Good old jolly for board members and friends like.
16 Jun 2024 08:17:56
Just read a story about Garcia. His agent has come out and said its been known from the start that he was alwsys going to sign a new contract so the club get a fair price for the lad. It also says that even though the release clause is $10m he would probably go for less than half of that with the figure quoted as $4m. 3.1m in our money. From what I've been told about this lad if we can do business at that price it would be a great deal for both.
1.) 16 Jun 2024 08:33:22
Why put 10 mill if they allow him to go for 4mill? Strange?.
2.) 16 Jun 2024 10:20:40
Fork it's called negotiations mate they say 10 we say 4 then meet somewhere but I don't think we have the money to spend.
3.) 16 Jun 2024 10:30:45
The deal also means that he’s not going to move until January. That will be what puts the nail in the coffin. Maybe we bring him in then or buy him now and loan him back til Jan.
4.) 16 Jun 2024 10:51:21
Doh, I get that OWS, but the 10 release clause could put suitors off.
5.) 16 Jun 2024 11:40:39
Why would he not be able to move until January?
6.) 16 Jun 2024 12:08:10
I won't worry about it we ain't spending 4m on a guy we can't get till jan.
7.) 16 Jun 2024 13:41:15
Seems to be part of the agreement the release clause only applies after this window.
8.) 16 Jun 2024 14:40:06
Fork I think that was the aim to put suitors off. His extension is do his hometown club get a decent fee.
9.) 16 Jun 2024 15:15:35
Yeah Bellshill I thought that initially bud?.
10.) 16 Jun 2024 16:52:59
It’s not hard to understand why they have done it clubs all over the world do it.
11.) 16 Jun 2024 18:42:16
I did not, not understand why they done it for those that think I did, I just find it strange price thru the roof when interest is shown, christ you'd think I was thick??.
19 May 2024 22:02:22
Just read on a Facebook group that the young lad Fraser is out of contract in the summer. Surely we must be giving this lad a long term contract? as from what I've seen he could become a cracking first choice LB for us long term.
1.) 20 May 2024 12:52:30
He was for leaving even though he is a Rangers die hard for first team football. This has now changed, but so have his demands.
Work is ongoing at the mo.
21 Jan 2024 16:04:08
I was speaking to a guy at work and he was telling me that Clement and our new head of recruitment have identified 5 main targets they want to add at the end of the season. His info is a CB striker possibly 2 wide player and LB. Other incoming would depend on players going out.
1.) 21 Jan 2024 16:17:32
Bellshill, I heard on Friday that we had been trying to shift Davies, (one club mentioned was his old Preston NE side, but there is a significant financial variance in what we want versus what is being offered) . Also heard two top quality Bosmans of interest with discussions ongoing with them / their representatives. One is a centre back that we would try to bring in now if Davies can be moved on - but I suspect that this will not happen.
2.) 21 Jan 2024 16:17:34
Hopefully we can find a buyer for Soutter, Davies, Cifuentes, Cantwell, Dowell, Matondo and let a freedom of contracts leave apart from Balogun and Lundstram. There's far too much average on wages they don't deserve.
3.) 21 Jan 2024 16:42:08
Nice positive post Herbert ? 3 max will leave from that list.
4.) 21 Jan 2024 17:19:55
Herbert I doubt it. We pay wages few can match, so it is almost impossible to get rid of our transfer mistakes.
5.) 21 Jan 2024 17:38:13
Herbert agree most of them should move on but Souttar is more than adequate for back up centre back.
6.) 21 Jan 2024 17:45:42
As much as a like balogun a would let him go as well.
7.) 21 Jan 2024 17:56:04
Herbert1 - you would expect a couple of players to move on possibly.
06 Jan 2024 18:25:31
Just been talking to a friend and he thinks we will move for the lad from Vitesse and offer both Matondo and Lammers on loan until the end of the season with option to buy in summer plus 1m. Guy never talks about football but has family in Holland. Anyone heard anything as I think it could be a bit far fetched to be true.
1.) 06 Jan 2024 19:46:50
I read not long ago gers looking at somebody from them, can't mind his name or position tho.
2.) 06 jan 2024 19:55:41
cant do that, spyder sold lammers to sunderland and ran away with the cash.
3.) 06 Jan 2024 20:22:23
Spyder spinning a Web of deceit.
4.) 06 Jan 2024 20:37:59
My spydy sense was tingling when i thought lammers was away too. ?.
5.) 06 Jan 2024 21:07:33
Heard we are in for Manhoef however Leicester City in too. Lure of the premier league next season may sway him. Be a good one for us to get.
6.) 06 Jan 2024 21:27:14
TT ????.
7.) 06 Jan 2024 22:11:27
Another one that’s been posted on here for over 7 days, gaz ?.
8.) 06 jan 2024 22:37:56
gaz, are you a bluenose?
just tell us and you can ignore the noise, i think you are myself,
9.) 06 Jan 2024 22:54:45
Sorry storm I never seen that. I must have been in mass when that was posted. Thanks for letting me know and pointing it out to me ???.
10.) 06 jan 2024 23:07:07
i played a friendly v fc twente enschade, my pal kept calling them 20 embassy, il keep his name to myself as he is well known, he still calls them 20 embassy.
11.) 06 Jan 2024 23:14:52
I am TT I’m only in the silver category on my gers points mind you so please don’t judge me on that ???????.
12.) 06 jan 2024 23:37:33
il accept that, i am now proposing you for membership of this very elite and distinguished group of honorary and revered bluenoses,
as you will have notice we are very modern and aware of the need for inclusivity,
( you will already have seen our inclusivity, we allow the occassional bampot )
before i officially welcome you to acceptance i need at least 2 seconders, or a seconder and a thirder,
guys, is gaz being accepted and welcomed as a fully card carrying teddy bear?
13.) 07 Jan 2024 00:24:23
Thank you very much for your proposal TT. I hope I get the 2 seconders and approved for this loyal group. GSTK ??????.
14.) 07 Jan 2024 00:50:30
I’ll second you Gazgers ?????…don’t know what that gets you but keep up the chat and info.
15.) 07 Jan 2024 09:49:11
I believe Gaz to be a blue.
16.) 07 Jan 2024 10:00:28
Cheers lads. ????????.
bellshilllad83's rumour replies
30 Nov 2024 14:23:11
If we get a decent fee for Yilmaz I'd be happy to make that deal. I rate Yilmaz very highly and for me if he could stay fit he'd be a clear 1st choice LB at any club up here. Think the lad at Aberdeen would be another good bit of business for us.
30 Nov 2024 08:35:32
Zikos I totally disagree with Diomande and Cerny. Think both are talented players and more than good enough for us. Think both would not only perform well for us but would make us good money when they moved on.
Youngblue I would sacrifice Bajrami staying wide if it means we bring in Lennon Miller as I think he is going to be special. I really think if we pay the 4 plus add ons we will easily make a fortune if he keeps developing as he has done.
29 Nov 2024 12:41:56
Youngblue I think we have the start of what could be a great side. I think we bring in the right players in January and we could be further along than we think. Add to that getting our injured players back and fully match fit and we could be so much stronger. In January for me we must bring in a CB as I don't think Propper is the answer. I'd look at English championship or EPL youngster. A 10 gor me there should only be 1 option and tgat would be Miller from motherwell and lastly a 9 that will get us goals. Shankland would be the low risk low cost option but I don't think he will be the answer. My team come January would be
Butland
Sterling. Souttar. New CB. Jefte
Raskin/ Barron/ Diomande any 2 of 3
Cerny. New 10. Bajrami
New 9.
29 Nov 2024 08:31:25
I don't think all of the blame should land on PC. Look at our starting team last night only Souttar has been with us longer than 2 years. Even outside that you have tav that's got a few years with us and Hagi but we don't have the 8 to 10 players that have came in and had time to properly settle in and establish themselves. Look at celtic and Aberdeen they have a core of experienced players that have been at the club for a good few years.
Our board and prior management has done PC no favours. Prior management have handed out massive contracts to average players and the board has allowed our valuable assets to leave for nothing instead of taking good money that was offered. You can't lose 7 very important players for free in 2 years and demand the manager magically replaces them with a restricted budget.
26 Nov 2024 16:09:34
Story I heard it would be a loan only with no option to buy if there was any approach. I'm hearing we have 2 targets in progress, scouting and analysis currently happening for a new striker. Told that both Dessers and Danilo will be open to offers as far as club is concerned. New CEO has a lot of connections via the work he did st Manchester United and also committees he Sat on.
bellshilllad83's banter replies
04 Jul 2024 12:11:44
For me the problem when Clement came in was he wasnt able to give players returning from injury the time he wanted to allow them to fully recover as we had fresh injuries. In an ideal world players would have got more time before playing full 90 minutes and definitely more time before playing a run of games.
For me our squad didn't have the balance we needed to cope with so many injuries.
16 Jun 2024 14:40:06
Fork I think that was the aim to put suitors off. His extension is do his hometown club get a decent fee.
15 Mar 2020 15:04:17
Exact type of player we are missing.
02 Nov 2019 21:24:48
The main cause in my opinion is poor recruitment something like 30 million spent in past few years with most getting their contracts terminated by mutual consent. That has to stop. Paying millions in fees then same in paying them off. Secondly it will be the excessive legal fees caused by the sports direct twat taking us to court every time his dinner is cold.
I think with wilson in our recruitment will improve buying low improving and selling for profit with sell on clauses in the likes of morelos, kamara, aribo etc. Pretty much copy what Celtic have done with there players for years now.
07 Jul 2019 18:56:04
Youngster that's came through the ranks. Very good prospect according to my mate who is an ex player.