29 Aug 2025 09:46:42
Nico Raskin not involved in 1st planning for Sunday. Looks like RM wants to push out most of the squad from previous years.
29 Aug 2025 10:05:15
The 49ers are asset stripping us. Lining their pockets. Stewart will be getting a cut for the Chermitti deal from his old pals at Everton. A striker who hasn't scored in 20 odd games!
29 Aug 2025 10:10:43
In fairness that's from the Daily Record so we shall see on Sunday.
29 Aug 2025 10:12:08
De Boer, blaming the 49ers is not the answer. Hamza wanted to go.
29 Aug 2025 10:12:31
Sadly appears RM totally getting his way.
I could live with this, were we slaying all before us! However ripping an entire team (squad) apart and replacing it with new, often less experienced players has not worked. Some of the newbies look genuinely shell shocked and often overwhelmed by the magnitude of either playing at home or in a series of high profile matches.
And I fear regardless of Sunday RM will still be here.
29 Aug 2025 10:12:41
Unbelievable, before the season even started everyone said if Nico didn't sign a new contract we must sell him.
29 Aug 2025 10:15:39
They aren't asset stripping. Get a grip man.
29 Aug 2025 10:19:02
Scott, selling all our best players and replacing with loans from the EPL and championship. The squad was already not good enough and there about to end the window making it 10x worse.
29 Aug 2025 10:21:53
What is wrong with fans, asset stripping to line their pockets.
They are already loaded, deliberately weakening our team to earn a couple million is definitely not their model.
This is nothing to do with the 49ers, it's martin and thilwell stripping the team so it's full of yes men.
29 Aug 2025 10:24:43
We all said if Raskin doesn't sign another contract he NEEDS sold this summer, he has not signed another contract and WILL be sold, some now seem unhappy about things they wanted happening.
29 Aug 2025 10:27:59
Asset stripping? c'mon sir - we have had a pay-structure which has been running away with itself and nonsense for years and now the club is trying to align itself to something sensible and more manageable - yes results don't echo this at moment ( and this gives fans the fear) but those players on park should be doing much better so let's not dig at a business model which works well over the world but will take time to implement given our position in the food chain? Yes managers may come and go but the overall ethos and philosophy of club needs major surgery and this is part and parcel of change - have the faith?.
29 Aug 2025 10:29:04
They aren't investing very much and getting in lots of cash from sales.
It looks like an asset stripping exercise to me. There will be 5/ 6 loanees by end of the window. 3 or 4 in the back line and another 1 or 2.
Let's see what happens.
29 Aug 2025 10:29:52
Most asset strippers want to make a profit though ?.
oh and de Boer you will find Stewart wasn't at Everton but don't let the truth as they say.
29 Aug 2025 10:30:16
If we sell any1 then we need to replace thdm with better and that's not happening. We've went to much too fast and th bring in poss 6 loans is a club looking for short term fixes. Completely scunneted by the club and new owners.
29 Aug 2025 10:34:26
Selling good players and buying duffers and loans. How is that not asset stripping?
29 Aug 2025 10:35:06
Asset stripping is pure Tim patter. We slag folk for saying 1 in 9 trophies about Gerrard but now use the tim patter about asset stripping. It's embarrassing. I want RM gone but let's look at this rationally.
Before the window opened all this was said pretty much unanimously.
Sell Dessers he'll never be worth more and isn't good enough
Sell Tav he's past it, legs have gone, etc.
Sell Ridvan he's made of chocolate, etc
Sell Raskin if he won't sign a new deal
Sell Jefte he's rubbish
Sell Bajrami
Can we get out of the Cortes deal
Get rid of Davies, Dowell, Cifuentes, Matondo
Sell Butland he's rubbish
Majority of this has come to pass and we're raging about it and blaming 49ers.
We all knew Igamane wouldn't be here for long but now that's an issue. As for the signings most folk were buzzing about Aarons, Rothwell, Antman, Gassama. Most hadn't heard of Aasgard, Fernandez, Meghoma, Djiga.
The style of play has been terribly executed. The players can't play it. A better manager should be in charge. But the majority of the players we wanted rid of have gone. We always say we need players who have done it in this league. Sign Miovski. Aww that's underwhelming.
We are all angry but maybe we need to point out anger to the right place. Thelwell and Stewart for hiring Martin and Martin for his stubbornness. Players for their performances.
Asset stripping. Honestly lol.
29 Aug 2025 10:40:58
Mystar it's how Raskins been treated, why would he sign a new deal when he's been shunted out to left mid, then replaced by Rothwell?
It's not the sale of players, it's the snide remarks, the arrogance and the 3 days left of the window.
How anyone can be reasonable about this fries my brain.
29 Aug 2025 10:43:21
What utter nonsense ?.
29 Aug 2025 10:43:44
Well said Ayrshire!
29 Aug 2025 10:44:31
Ok maybe I'm wrong about asset stripping but we will see by the end of the window whether we are stronger or weaker. One of us is maybe wildly wrong but I'm pretty sure it's not me.
Looking forward to a big rebuild next summer.
29 Aug 2025 10:44:44
Selling your best players and replacing with loans what's that then lol. People wanted the players gone but they wanted them replaced with better not loans that weren't up to the task physically or mentally.
29 Aug 2025 10:49:10
De Boer because asset strippers want to make a profit. they paid £100m for the club. our squad was worth just over that so if they sold everyone (and didn't replace them) then they would make about £1.50. but they also spent £20M so that is why it isn't asset stripping.
29 Aug 2025 10:50:11
Very good post Ayrshire. I wonder and have for a while now though if it is the players choosing not to play that style and now why they are being sold and replaced.
29 Aug 2025 10:53:17
Agreed on selling Raskin if he doesn't sign a new deal. Like a few remark it's not so much him going as the way RM appears to go about handling those players he doesn't want to keep.
Replacements are being found (though their qualities are yet to come to the fore, if indeed they ever do), but the late nature of many possible departures means we are at the mercy of both buying and selling clubs, which is why I feel we are being overly dependent upon a loan market. More annoying when they come with no purchase option as I suspect they'll still be costing £1m+ for their time here.
29 Aug 2025 10:53:41
Can't believe he's treating Raskin and tav the way he is. The worst manager in our history.
29 Aug 2025 10:58:16
Exactly Ayrshire. The sales have all been players a lot of this forum wanted sold, and we seem to be getting decent prices for them.
In the long term hopefully their sales will be a good thing. The owners of Leeds done something similar, got rid of the players who were over paid / were valuable and replaced with cheaper but ultimately better players.
In the short term however this will be painful, high player turnover isn't great for a team gelling. And our current performances and tactics are not helping.
Player wise will take this and another window to resolve I think. As for the manager he will be given a chance with the new players I believe and not be sacked any time soon. Hopefully things turn around or that will change I'm sure.
29 Aug 2025 11:00:24
End of last season most people said we need a total rebuild, get rid of most of the squad, sell raskin if he doesn't sign a new deal now the club are doing that people are moaning, i'm not a fan of martin whatsoever, never wanted him and i want him gone but we can't say we need a total rebuild and then moan when it happens.
29 Aug 2025 11:01:15
Well said Ayrshire.
29 Aug 2025 11:02:45
Wildly wrong would be accusing a new ownership of asset stripping. Downgrading players isn't asset stripping. It's poor recruitment.
As for downgrading Cerny was never our player and didn't want to join so Antman is an improvement on McAusland who would have been our starter. Gassama is an improvement on Cortes/ Hagi/ Bajrami who all played LW. Djiga is better than Nsiala/ Davies. Miovski will score goals so will be better or equal to Dessers. Meghoma from what I've seen is better than Jefte and more available therefore better than Ridvan. Aasgard will be better than Bajrami and Hagi in my eyes but no proof yet.
We haven't signed a replacement for Raskin as Rothwell isn't the replacement. The team isn't performing and the manager isn't the answer for us but some seriously wild takes on here.
I'm sure EHL has stated he believes this is one of the best squads we've had in a while. The issue has been the system and coaching.
29 Aug 2025 11:03:07
Yes Angus, ie simply means the asset stripping hasn't finished yet.
29 Aug 2025 11:03:19
Angus I'm not sure they are choosing not to. I'm not convinced they have the ability or confidence to.
29 Aug 2025 11:06:23
Wishy that's called poor recruitment and possibly players we wanted not being available or not wanting to join us without champs league football guaranteed.
Could even be that players we wanted went elsewhere or were out of our price range.
We look from the outside in and only see a snapshot. For all I know yous are right and it is asset stripping but if that's the case they are doing an incredibly poor job at it. I think it's more realistic they've made mistakes in managerial appointment and recruitment which would be Stewart, Purdy and Thelwell no the 49ers.
Only thing you can say about the 49ers is that they've appointed Stewart and Thelwell as errors.
29 Aug 2025 11:08:40
Is it not though getting rid of players who don't want to be here. we need to be like Newcastle here and not just sell to Liverpool unless they meet our terms. yes we may be left short-term with a slightly disgruntled player but they then need to realise they won't get their way like last time and they need to do what the club wants. end of player power is a positive.
I am sure we have looked at replacements as I think this scenario was always likely if we realised from Clement and Ferguson that players didn't follow instructions. given the chance, still ignored instruction so get rid. we don't like Martin so every decision is just being used as another stick here.
29 Aug 2025 11:15:08
If we had a decent manager and we could see an inkling of a style of play that players could play then we would be all behind the decisions being made, you could implement these tactics on any team outside the elite few teams in the world and you would get the same outcome, our shots conceded shows us that we could score five goals a game and not win some of them and with the chances we make we will be lucky to get one Nevermind a few, Sunday could be the most toxic ibrox has ever been and it will be.
29 Aug 2025 11:15:27
Good posts Ayrshire.
29 Aug 2025 11:15:35
Ayrshire if u sell you best players and replace them players not as good for less money call it what you will for me it's gross mismanagement and this isn't what I recall we were being promised after takeover remember Marathie said we would be surprised by quality of signings well I am surprised how low in quality some are.
29 Aug 2025 11:21:41
100% mystar! If raskin doesn't sign new contract he gets sold. We cannot let prize assets run down the contracts again.
29 Aug 2025 11:38:39
OWS so he didn't lie you are surprised ;)
Ayrshire you may be right but I am then worried as I've said before that we have internationals and new players who aren't able to implement a playing style which League 1 players could. doesn't matter if the system is successful it is just that they don't have the ability to play it I am arguing. If it is lack of confidence only then that will come.
29 Aug 2025 11:43:54
De boer it may not be but if they sell every player and don't replace they would make a loss from the £100M they have invested.
Our squad is worth is 108.8M euros according to tranfermarkt which is around £95M when converted to sterling. So they would actually lose money before they spend the £20M they have.
If they invested in a fixed rate bond at 5% return they get £5M in interest every year from the £100m invested.
I feel I am wasting my time though as you like the idea that they are asset striping and no amount of actual proof will sway that.
29 Aug 2025 11:44:23
They may have spent money but the money in will be greater. Same thing at Leeds and they are not going to do much this season, probably fav's for the drop. The people they have installed to run the club here are clearly a problem. I'm sure they will sort it but it will take time.
29 Aug 2025 11:46:29
Yeah maybe more poor recruitment than asset stripping but no matter what way you want to frame it the squad needed to be drastically improved this summer and I don't think it is. Our back 4 will
Not be here next summer, as they are all loans, the midfield which was our only positive last season is now regressing majorly and we are talking about selling our best player. yes we said if he doesn't sign a contract sell him but situation has changed rothwell is no where near up the challenge and we have left it to late to find a good replacement. You can make an argument we have improved the wings but I don't think antman is better than Cerny but at least antman is here permanently. We haven't improved striker yet, miovski is decent but the young Everton boy to replace Dessers is wild.
I'm scunnered with it to be honest, Martin isn't the only issue, thelwell recruitment has been equally as big an issue. If he has failed to get the right players then that's a failure on his part can't just say oh they didn't want to come, it's up to him to find solutions or he is a failure.
29 Aug 2025 11:54:23
The players seem completely confused.
They either haven't the ability to do what Martin wants, or they're not buying into his ways.
29 Aug 2025 11:56:20
Interesting arguments being made.
I don't think anyone has ever said "sell x player and replace him with a worse player". I think the general sentiment, obviously, was that we needed better to challenge and/ or didn't want people's contacts running down.
I don't think we've replaced anyone yet with a better player, perhaps Gassama you could argue.
29 Aug 2025 12:01:05
OWS I might be picking the wrong conversation here but I'm thinking you might be misquoting Marathe.
What he said at the EGM was:
If we share who we're targeting that players becomes more expensive. It's best for you all if we surprise you with the players we bring in.
No mention of quality. It was about a lack of leaks prior to signing.
29 Aug 2025 12:02:54
Asset stripping, don't talk nonsense. It's going to take the 49ers time to evaluate the club and put business plans in place.
Is RM a mistake yes, does Thelwell shop in the only market he knows yes, which is a mistake.
The 49ers are going to be excellent given time.
29 Aug 2025 12:09:32
Angus, I think we might be just slightly at odds with the term asset stripping and if that is wrong and what I mean is really downsizing then I apologise profusely.
It doesn't change the concerns I have regarding the strategy that the new owners is following . I didn't mean to pick an argument with one of their fan boys who just can't see how badly they have started their ownership of us. Take care and all the best.
29 Aug 2025 12:03:25
We did want Raskin sold if he didn't sign but the way he is getting treated is a disgrace.
29 Aug 2025 12:16:25
The Americans are not asset stripping, that much is clear.
They have made a huge blunder in appointing Martin, though.
29 Aug 2025 12:17:06
My Star, there is a difference between wanting to move and being forced out. We don't know so the facts as yet.
29 Aug 2025 12:41:12
De Boer possibly but the term asset stripping has now just become a buzzword bandied around without actually understanding what it is. I agree more with downsizing but would prefer to wait a while to see how the players we have bought and are buying perform over a slightly longer period.
wow never been called a fan boy before so that is a new low (or high? ) for me personally. shown to not understand the term you are bandying around so instantly resort to insulting me. I think you will find the right term though is supporter. and yes I do question what is happening but people will know I just like to be a little more patient to see if it might come good.
29 Aug 2025 12:47:28
I was one of the Raskin has to be sold or he signs a new deal guys.
Clear from the way he's played that he isn't interested I don't care about the circumstances he's clearly a hard player to work with Clement, Barry and now Martin all having issues with him.
29 Aug 2025 12:58:28
Great posts Ayrshire well said sir.
29 Aug 2025 12:58:30
Angus you've ignore my point. Marathie said fans would be surprised by some of signings made in terms of quality do you believe we've signed real quality? .
29 Aug 2025 13:04:04
So what's your success indicators this year? A European place or getting to a cup final? If you can't look and see where this is going then you need to wake up to what WILL be the new low.
29 Aug 2025 13:20:22
OWS to be fair to Angus you've ignored the quote I've provided directly from the EGM. No mention of quality.
29 Aug 2025 13:21:58
DeBoer you're jumping all over the place a bit here. We've went from asset stripping to quality of player to now success for the season.
Success this season would be what we all demand. Trophies but mainly the title. It's been stated that players performances have been poor. It's been stated that the manager needs to go. Nobody is debating these things. This started based on an asset stripping claim.
29 Aug 2025 13:23:48
No OWS I was joking that he said we would be surprised and I think you are.
29 Aug 2025 13:30:48
Of course they are asset stripping and certainly not investing . They are selling players and not spending the money on replacements, instead loaning players. They talked about investing in the playing staff but if we sell the likes of Raskin, Butland and Dessers to add to what we have already sold and don't spend money on replacements then they will be in profit and invested nothing.
We may well have wanted some of they players sold but did we want them sold if we knew the replacements would be duff and a lot of them wouldn't be ours.
We did say Raskin should be sold if he didn't sign a new deal but we all question now why he isn't signing a new deal, why Rothwell has been brought in as a cheap replacement and why Souttar isn't being treated the same way when he hasn't signed either .?
29 Aug 2025 13:31:16
DeBoer - Success will be firstly getting the club financially stable - getting rid of the deadwood that many on here wish rid of and hopefully installing a manager who can work with the resources he will have on offer (as they prob see at present RM is a mistake)
Getting younger hungry assets who will improve the team and provide a sell on too - this will not happen with a Harry Potter wave of a wand but if we stayed as we were regarding inflating wage structures and allowing players to F off when THEY choose then there was only one way for our club to go and that would be up ?creek without a paddle - no one likes this low but a stable base allows for a superior build and unfortunately this will take time.
29 Aug 2025 13:35:20
CalR, Barry literally has an article today saying he had no issues at all with Raskin. He's opinionated and a fiery character.
He finished the season as our best player and he's been ruined by RM.
I can't say for sure if he'd have signed a new deal had a better manager came in and built the team around him in his natural position but as I've repeatedly said, I don't blame the boy for not signing up right now.
29 Aug 2025 13:55:20
Blue Floyd, it sounds like what you are saying is that you are happy to not win much for a few years which if that is your opinion, then you are entitled to it. You seem though to have a great deal of confidence that the new owners will invest further down the line. I hope your confidence turns out to be right and that I am completely wrong.
29 Aug 2025 14:17:14
Martin was a defender, so either he has forgotten the basics or he's never really known much about it?
Would we like Jose, did his badges here and once said ra sellic would be a consideration .
29 Aug 2025 14:27:34
Pauly you can have no issues with someone and still find them difficult to work with. Lol.
29 Aug 2025 14:42:58
DeBoer - Definitely not happy regarding winning things as that should be in our club DNA - but I am happy that our club hopefully will stabilise/ move forward, be here for many years for our sons and daughters and not end up like it did 10 years ago - and tbh financially and internal business structurally we were heading in that direction?.
29 Aug 2025 15:17:50
Mystar i think you are correct on raskin but. there is a huge difference if club is selling raskin and proceeds going back into club and selling raskin and money going into 49ers pockets think that's what some are getting at.
29 Aug 2025 15:25:39
Some of the most delusional takes I've seen on here. Great content.
29 Aug 2025 15:29:22
Personally i don't think people will have long to wait to find the answer we have until monday to add to squad if it is about what's needed for the team rather than money then you would expect to see at very leasts
A left cb
A left back
A midfielder if raskin goes
A striker if dessers goes
Id also urge people to remember these people are here to make money they are not here because they are Rangers supporters that want club to win at all costs.
Im good with this as long as they start moving away feom the loans with no options younger lower price or even free players i still don't mind if we do things right still good players to be had.
29 Aug 2025 15:41:23
If we sell a player with hope to bring someone better in then surely that costs more money than what we would get in the sale. so if that's the case why sell the player we have?
we are in the position that we sell for profit then bring in a potential that can sell again at a profit.
not sell our assets then spend even more money to improve. not going to happen i'm afraid.
29 Aug 2025 17:15:10
Gees - obviously if we sell someone for 10m we don't spend 10m or more on the replacement but the more money you make the more money you reinvest that's the point in a succesful player trading model. The more you spend the more chance of success on making a profit on the next one. Right now we are selling our best players and replacing them with loans that are no where near fit for purpose.