07 Sep 2025 10:39:55
Ask yourselves this for anyone on here who doesn't rate big john souttar ?Why is it this guy continues to play well and excell playing for scotland, in a structure that allows him to defend properly and the way he knows how ?Also under clement big soapy performed superbly well in the majority of games, when he was our manager ? It's Russell Martin's highline risky defending not to mention playing big soapy on the left side instead of the right that's not only leaving him out to dry, but leaving our defenders in general out to dry ?Souttar without a doubt for me is a really good centre half ???.
07 Sep 2025 10:46:26
My friend people are allowed alternative opinions.
I would not look to renew as i feel we need better and the only box he ticks for me is homegrown quota.
I think we could get a tick box signing on lower wages and influence.
Quite rightly he is at a point in his career where he can demand to play consistently and for us to progress I believe it would be better for both John and Rangers to amicably part company.
07 Sep 2025 10:58:51
Why have we been speaking about john souttar for a full weekend ??.
07 Sep 2025 11:05:13
Agree with asa, we need better.
07 Sep 2025 11:10:09
Asathor he is still a better cb than Djiga right now, play the best and he is currently the best Rcb.
07 Sep 2025 11:18:33
Its glaringly obvious that we need better. The only reason he stays as a squad player is because of the quota. If there was no quota he would be nowhere Rangers.
07 Sep 2025 11:21:11
Sir, But he is still Rangers best Rcb right though, I would love getting better but that doesn't come keep, hopefully a out of contact will be lined up, Souttar should definitely be offered another contract.
07 Sep 2025 11:32:30
I agree, I think Souttar should be moved back to the right, why move him to the left to accommodate a loan signing who we won't be signing on a permanent basis.
07 Sep 2025 11:33:23
Why I was surprised when like with Chris Mepham he is good cb but he wouldn't put Souttar out the line up.
07 Sep 2025 12:08:20
Asa who would you recommend to replace Big John, As you have posted we could get a tick box signing with more influence. ?????????.
07 Sep 2025 12:15:31
Currently we don't have better and that's why he's a first pick, having said that last season we saw numerous errors in big games that cost us, also concerned if we are playing a higher line as he is out his comfort zone.
When we come up against a physical forward then he's good to turn to, so their will be games when he's needed then others when he may drop out.
07 Sep 2025 12:17:09
One Walter why I want Souttar replaced, we constantly sell goals, him included, if we want to win league we need better players, if not be content with second.
Walter where does Souttar sit in order gough butcher crueller amorouss bougnerra.
07 Sep 2025 12:28:28
Ask yourself this, when teams park the bus against us do you want souttar standing on our 18yard line?
07 Sep 2025 12:30:10
John you're forgetting Boumsong, what a class act he was.
07 Sep 2025 12:30:54
Easy one this for me John because imo richard gough is the best centre half i've seen in my time of going to see the Rangers mate ?The centre halfs you mention although i liked by amo he made a good few mistakes in big games mate ? So in order of the ones you mention it would be gough, butcher, cuellar, bougherra and amorusso and yes souttar isn't better than any of them, but doesn't make him a bad centre half and the best we currently have at Rangers mate ?.
07 Sep 2025 12:57:25
Amo did make some howlers Sws, still a top cb mate.
07 Sep 2025 13:07:40
Souttar is being exposed more in this system and the fact he's playing on then left doesn't suit him as much. However the fact remains that he isn't a top drawer CB and has other have stated if we're serious about being champions we need better.
07 Sep 2025 13:12:10
That's like saying where does miovski sit in comparison to hately, mols, mcoist and boyd. Miovski would be last in that order, should we get rid of him for that? We don't have anywhere near the quality we used to have, probably won't ever again.
07 Sep 2025 13:12:23
Cuellar was incredibly solid for us in his short spell, almost faultless. Has calm authority was a pleasure to watch.
07 Sep 2025 13:16:08
He's a great defender in terms of "park the bus" like he was at hearts and Scotland or siege mentality like in Europe cause Clement knew you needed to defend like that at times unlike RM but he doesn't excel anything individually. Look at Vickers and Balogan both are physical, decently fast and they are massive, Souttar doesn't have any of those qualities. His timing in blocks and tackling aren't great either unless it's in front of the attacker and he's facing them, look at the lyon game last season and you'll see he dives in to block for at least 2 goals and the lyon players wait then pick the spot. There's better out there and in Scotland, some might laugh but Gogic and Bushiri are better and we missed the boat for Bushiri on a free. Souttar is a great sub or back up but shouldn't be starting, problem is other than the Canadian (cause he's not played) I think we're weaker defensively than last year.
07 Sep 2025 13:25:26
I'm not saying get rid of Souttar but the answer to the question of why he looks better for Scotland is obvious . He is good " siege" defender, defending deep and making blocks and headers in his own box . Even before Martins high line its fair to say we don't play that way, we don't sit deep and invite attacks except maybe in Europe.
You see guys like Hanley look good on Friday night but in games where Scotland open up he is exposed.
07 Sep 2025 13:31:49
Lets see how he performs in his natural position on the right before judging the lad.
07 Sep 2025 13:37:17
Richard Gough the best.
Funny thing is, if we had Rangers Rumours page back in 1987, some would have been against signing him because he played for Scotland. ??.
07 Sep 2025 13:37:36
We can't win the league with Souttar - yet Celtic can win countless leagues with Scales.
Interesting.
07 Sep 2025 13:41:48
Madness not to give him a new deal in my opinion. Even more mad to suggest bushiri and gogic are better players ??♂️.
07 Sep 2025 13:52:51
The difference between Souttar for Scotland and Rangers is the way they set up. Clarke plays anti football and we don't. Soapy can be a decent last ditch defender at times but we without doubt need better than him.
I'd give him a new contract if he was content with being back up as we have a huge defensive rebuild in January/ next summer.
07 Sep 2025 14:34:06
Asa - as previously mentioned by another poster, who would you consider as a better option than Souttar at RCB?
To be honest he has been an excellent signing for Rangers.
07 Sep 2025 15:09:15
Yes boumsong was class.
Ehl, thing is it's a fact we have not won league with souttar
Will be very interesting view on souttar when he heads south.
07 Sep 2025 15:10:25
That's why Hanley was best defender on pitch, siege defender.
07 Sep 2025 15:33:31
I'm with you on this one Shakeypeg.
07 Sep 2025 15:35:55
John, I believe, and history tells us, that the winning team is built around a core of Scots with higher quality foreign players complementing them.
It not only cost effective, but it's also proven to be help ensure that the values of the club and connection with the fans remain paramount.
Unfortunately we seem to be an alternative path.
07 Sep 2025 16:24:59
I would offer souttar a contract but it would be to be back up going forward from Jan/ next summer. It's not just the high line that's making him look poor he has been a liability last two years also costing us goals maybe some don't see it because they have blue tinted specs on but it's true. He will have some good games no doubt but there is always a mistake or two in him.
07 Sep 2025 16:26:02
My Star
Bad comparison. I'm better CB than Dǰiga.
07 Sep 2025 16:38:11
So John with your info john souttar is definitely leaving Rangers and heading to england to continue his career ? No chance of being offered a new contract ?.
07 Sep 2025 17:01:18
And some are just clueless storm.
07 Sep 2025 17:10:16
Strikers win you games. Defenders win you titles.
07 Sep 2025 18:34:30
Mark does winning games not win you titles?
07 Sep 2025 19:15:47
Not sure if ever win a title with soutar but will never win one with Martin.
07 Sep 2025 19:19:14
If allowed, i would like to say i said at the time if Rangers had paid hearts the cash wanted for soutter to come half a season earlier i always believed Rangers chances of winning that title would have improved 10 fold
btw i have always like bushiri and still do, a very very honest and good defender who can cause havoc up front too,