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07 Mar 2020 23:17:48
Let's face people tav has been here through the last few years and it's been hard to take. I think the pressure of being captain is too much for him. Plus he's not the same player since candaise left.
08 Mar 2020 09:52:55
Exactly mate. Captain has been too much for him to handle. Its poor management to let him continue.
07 Mar 2020 22:20:58
I'll drink some of what your having. Leverkusen a top class team and celtic who knows what team will show up. 2.0 tomorrow.
07 Mar 2020 22:19:05
Well never win the league with players like Boyle we need guys who know what it takes to win titles or cups. Fergus on I like but we need to spend any money we bring in to have any hope next season. A quality centre half a must and a striker to replace morelos. Build a team through the spine of team.
07 Mar 2020 22:46:06
U cannot say we won't win leagues with lads like boyle but in same breath say you would take lewis ferguson.
08 Mar 2020 09:44:54
Yep Boyle better than ferguson.
08 Mar 2020 10:33:17
Not saying any are the answer but I think Ferguson is the better player and has more room to improve. Would quite like to see him at Rangers.
08 Mar 2020 12:39:37
Totally different players, csnt even compare them.
07 Mar 2020 21:15:47
Just want to put my tuppence in about Tav and the whole captain thing. If anybody seriously thinks by putting the arm bad on someone else will make any difference then what planet do you live on. Tav is and always has bee a scapegoat for our performances as a team. Most of the time when we loose it because of slack midfield play but don't see anybody criticizing arf, Davis or Jack. Also Shagger is good but has been culpable on many occasions including poor discipline. We just need better players and its as simple as that. We are very close but not quite there yet another 3 to 4 quality players we see us level with Celtic. If it wasn't for Pedro then it would be this year where we pulled level so if you want to point fingers then point it at who TF employed him.
07 Mar 2020 23:05:57
Tav has no heart did u see him whinging and his face against Hamilton. Just wanting to get off the pitch. Never a gers captain and u know and I hate saying it the rat sutton was right pernial loser.
07 Mar 2020 23:12:11
Plus he's been here nearly 5 years and he's never looked like winning anything.
08 Mar 2020 00:23:34
He's a coward him and goldson letting haliday take that press conference.
08 Mar 2020 07:32:21
I agree TJBB. Its failure at board level to appoint the correct men. Caixinha was the worst decision in years and it set us back 2/ 3 years. We will get there eventually lads. We all just want it to happen quicker lol.
08 Mar 2020 09:47:03
Yip Tavs a failed captain as is Gerrard a failed manager.
08 Mar 2020 09:54:39
If you think taking the captaincy off of Tav will make a difference then you clearly livenon planet earth. These problems we have are entirely mental. We need a real leader on the pitch. Clearly Tavernier is not that person.
08 Mar 2020 11:48:24
Mikeger, i recon tav done his job getting us up the leagues, but once we got back to top league, tav should have been sold. never rangers premier league quality, in saying that he would do okay further down our league, killie or that bracket.
09 Mar 2020 11:24:26
Tav has been flogging howlers and getting ripped apart defensively since we were in the championship. So nothing he does surprises me any more just frustrating.
07 Mar 2020 20:27:21
I've been absent posting on here for a while but have been reading the posts with despair and pain in my heart.
To watch us crumble so fast after such a good start before the break and see the absolute rage expressed by out support on here and at recent games makes me despair evn more.
Lose again tomorrow and be 16 points behind celts will be too much for me and I will not be able to bring myself to read the horrific posts that will be on here.
07 Mar 2020 22:17:19
Welcome back with a heartfelt sensible post, some of the posts of late have been vitriolic. To keep it within bounds of decency, before you post, ask yourself “saying this to a stranger on sauchiehall St would I get a sore face“
If it’s a yes don’t post it
Bottom lines we’re all fans and all hurting but now ain’t the time for division.
08 Mar 2020 07:34:58
Some of what is said is hard to read but surely we can all understand it. Its been hugely frustrating. The hope built up and the team just pulled their pants down.
07 Mar 2020 19:59:58
tavernier has kind of put his foot in it,
jack will be better.
we should have good money from European football, even with virus thing!
wdw.
07 Mar 2020 21:48:57
Listen folks. Let’s be objective here. What tav said is stupid but right. What Beal said is right. What Kent said is right. For example Kamara wants to much time on the ball, Aribo is a good player but in the wrong league. Other players can’t handle or don’t get the need be successful to earn a crust. Our coach is saying, what Stevie is thinking. My tactics are rubbish in this league unless we play Celtic. Remember when we drew against Barcelona at Ibrox, Messi said it was “anti football the way we played. Some players, coaches and managers just don’t get the poor standard of our league or how they like to play. So we need a manager and players that do.
07 Mar 2020 23:09:47
Wilkin, any money made from Europa games would go to pay of some of our debt, i'd imagine . Apparently we still owe to Close Brothers and to L/ pool for Kent.
08 Mar 2020 09:48:27
Morelos and abrasives and probaly Tavernier will be sold so money from that will beinvested.
08 Mar 2020 11:55:03
The stuck, maybe the close bros, even of thati'mnot sure, but kent v liverpool that's under control,3 mill down, the 2 mill each of next two seasons, problem solved.
07 Mar 2020 18:44:52
Every SPFL team tries harder against us because they hate us based on the david murray years of spending and our success. The league and sfa along with the most of media and a lot in political power also have an agenda but that's they way it is in 2020.
07 Mar 2020 20:35:08
Right so every team tries harder against us because of all the success we had almost a decade ago now going backwards, when the majority of these players weren't professionals yet and there will be plenty gers fans amongst those squads aswell? As opposed to trying harder against a team that has dominated whether we like it or not for the last God knows how long? The problem is we lack the winners mentality, the easy end mob don't, lot of tosh pal.
07 Mar 2020 20:50:59
They up their game against celtic too, they just know how to handle it. Just like we raised our game in Europe against better opposition.
09 Mar 2020 11:22:04
Ger88. Where you think its a lot of tosh or not its my opinion and i'm entitled to it having watched scottish football and rangers for 60 years. i'm not your pal and like it or not there is an agenda that goes way beyond football. However that as i say is my opinion.!
09 Mar 2020 11:23:47
Sorry Ger88, forgot to add that in support of my agenda based comments look at the Griffiths stamping incident the throwing of tape into the crowd the wiping of nose on our corner flag and lennons behaviour all of which goes unpunished along with the refereeing 'mistakes' in league cup final and other games. Lots more but I rest my case.
07 Mar 2020 18:43:20
Read a post earlier but had no time to reply to the poster so thought I'd put it here as not sure how far back it was now
Gerrard Has not being doing it anyone else's way.
He is doing it his way, with his own players all being it they have let him down, no doubt about it
But his stubbornness keep playing the players who's letting him down instead of using the full pool of players at his disposal
With the likes of Jones, polster hastie Stewart Halliday, hindsight should have kept docherty and Murphy
And maybe when things where going pear shaped players losing form whatever you want to call it, he could have tried using some of those players and gave them a proper run and benched some of the ones who have let him down and freshened it up a bit
Listen you would think with some of my posts I hate Gerrard, I really don't I hate my team losing that's what I hate and I hate players coming out with stupid comments when it's not there place to do so and do there talking on the pitch
And think at times gerrard has been his own downfall with keeping playing said players
Listen if he's still here next season I'll get behind him and team to go fresh and hopefully we get foot on gas and not let up until the very last game
That's what a supporter wants to see his/ her team playing and fighting right to the end and then you can say, know what those players played there hearts out whole season and gave it a right go even if we lose league again then they can hold there heads high, right now they can't.
That's all I want to see is a team wearing the famous jersey playing highest standard as possible showing a fighting spirit and hunger to win
Not coming out and saying, well when we're pressured we seem to crumble. WTAF 😂
Bolt pal your not wanted at club as big as ours where it should be a privilege and honour to play
Gerrard has a big task this coming season the question is will he rise to it and whoever he brings in better we'll be well scouted and know exactly what's expected of them
Fighting Spirit every game through a full season
Not much to ask?
Gerrard change things when you see it's not working and have no besties that you feel you can't drop and get a few different tactics up your sleeve to be able to change things and catch opponents off guard.
😊.
07 Mar 2020 21:19:36
Right mate. Polster did well when tav was out and as soon as he was ok polster was benched or not even in the squad. jones has been banished even though he's a million times better than ohno. Patterson even did well for his game and can't even get the bench either. Tav and goldson repeat the same mistakes constantly, but play all the time. Magic had a rubbish game and was immediately benched for ed.
07 Mar 2020 18:42:28
Hey guys, Going forward:
Out of current crop of players Who would you want to keep?
Who can we sell for profit?
And who do you think we could entice to come in to the team and stand up to the pressures of everyday life in the fishbowl?
And whether you want gerrard to stay or not
What's your gut feelings on he stays or goes end of season?
And any thoughts on how much money we may have for transfers come the summer?
Hard to know I know but opinions appreciated 😊.
07 Mar 2020 19:01:22
we can definitely make profit on Kamara and Tav as they were bought for very little. maybe squeeze few mill for both. break even maybe on goldson and make healthy profits on Morelos and barisic. could be a lot of ins and outs come the summer. also expect firth Wes jones Ojo barker flanagan steward all to be gone.
07 Mar 2020 20:41:33
Gerrard said he wanted depth and balance in the team, at the moment guys like Jones Ojo Hastie and Barker are nowhere near good enough to be near the starting 11, so we need proper competition for those attacking places, Murphy deserves a chance when he comes back to compete with Kent and if we sign Hagi permanently and Hastie hasn't progressed then we need better quality to compete than what we've got.
07 Mar 2020 16:23:28
14 years ago today we faced villrreal in 2nd leg of last 16 champions league. Still cannot believe we never won that tie. Although we got knocked out its probably still my best euro away day. Was like a home game that night. The spaniards could not quite believe it. There team bus rolling into front of stadium had to navigate thousands of bears in full voice. What an atmosphere. Great trip.
07 Mar 2020 18:11:30
Yes was there Paul. Sitting with Goram and Roberts surrounded by Spaniards.
07 Mar 2020 18:14:42
Only downside was the train station not opening until 7am next day and us with nowhere to stay. Was cold night with just a tshirt on. (Idiot) .
07 Mar 2020 20:02:23
We stayed in Valencia.
07 Mar 2020 16:11:03
the team that pumped us twice recently is getting beat 1.0 by motherwell at home -just putting things in to perspective as to how much teams play out of their skin against us and then its back to normal viewing a week later.
07 Mar 2020 16:26:39
I’m not sure they do play out of their skin against us, they just know how to play against us and then can’t believe their luck when we gift them goals! I’m sure there’s an element of raising their game but I’d suspect they do that for both sides of the old firm and the mhanks seem to cope fine. As Tav says, they just smell the blood with us. 2 ways of dealing with that, 1. Write a letter to the head coach asking if he wouldn’t mind telling his players not to try so hard against us. Or 2. Don’t think because we have more ability we’ll automatically beat them, have as much, if not more fighting spirit, determination and work rate and hammer teams like we should be doing.
07 Mar 2020 16:27:43
Pumped?
We shouldn't need the excuse that teams play out of their skin against us. We should be capable of adapting our approach to these teams.
Improvise Adapt Overcome.
07 Mar 2020 16:31:49
Or maybe we just haven't played well enough with a top scorer in a strop and a bottler for a captain?
07 Mar 2020 17:02:38
Do they play out their SKIN😢🇬🇧.
07 Mar 2020 17:25:31
Don't think it's a case other teams play out their skins against us (bar Aberdeen), think it's more a case that we're just not very good, play a system that's easy to play against, and every other team has figured us out. Not to mention, our "captain" saying we can't cope when teams have a go at us. Expect another struggle tomorrow.
07 Mar 2020 18:40:25
Yately01 pal. Where did you hear that rumour about macron possibly going to become our new kit makers mate?
The reason i'm asking is because i've heard it was some celtic fans who started it as a rumour, to try and wind up all the bears, because they're signing a mega deal kit contract with adidas! It was to try and kick us while we're down and meant to make us feel so inferior to them! I personally will never feel inferior to them mate because we most definitely are not!
07 Mar 2020 18:45:53
Id make our lot sit and watch recording after recording of the east end mob celebrating their wins especially broon and bitter lemon to try to get a positive response. However i fear that they don't have the fight in them.
07 Mar 2020 19:32:43
I would think that the majority of our players heads would go down even further if they were made to sit and watch that mob celebrate. They've proven they don't have the fight in them. Look at the players when Hamilton scored, all the heads went down, Tav, our captain, rather than rally the players just stood and looked at the ground. The only one to come out shouting was McGregor and he seemed to be shouting at the wrong player.
07 Mar 2020 16:08:57
Been reading this from afar recently as I don’t really know what’s went wrong so don’t feel right I spout about it on here.
The Tav quotes in the program notes are unforgivable and it’s my opinion he never wears the shirt again. Coincidently I’ve just seen a video of Lee Wallace talking about Rangers, the set up, facilitys and what it meant to him to be a Rangers captain. Call it what you like but during tough times part of the captains role is to rouse the squad, show no fear and drive the improvements. Don’t get me wrong the editor should never have allowed his words to be printed but they were and now the world knows our captains mindset.
07 Mar 2020 16:08:39
Just reading the post about £25 Million for Barisic, no way, he's not good enough for that sort of fee. If we did however get decent money, we won't be spending £Millions on so called top players, we can't afford to spend loads on players again, we've already spent more than enough for this season, so, Dukes, Ferguson, and let's say Boyle from Hibs, and recall Murphy, NcCrorie, and Docherty, that's our limit financially guys, again, just my opinion.
07 Mar 2020 16:42:00
what utter dross of a post, why not 25mill for borna, don't compare him to other players he is a rangers player and we should be digging in for top dollar, the tic don't sell cheap why should we, as for the other players you mention, dykes not any better than what we got bench warmer, boyle blows hot and cold, ferguson i don't think is consistent enough, murphy should not have went on loan, mcrorie just have to wait and see, he might come back as a right back who knows.
07 Mar 2020 16:50:49
Reckon we will get between 12-15mill for him.
07 Mar 2020 22:28:55
Truebluesotrue, your response is a bit curt to say the least, I did say it was my opinion, which I'm entitled to. We have no winners in our team, that's why Celtic command higher transfer fees than us. We all want what's best for our Club, but, times have changed, and we no longer can go and get the Gascoigne's and Laudrups of this world. I think you're wrong when you say that Dykes is no better than those warming our bench, I personally think he would improve us up front as it stands, again, my opinion only.
07 Mar 2020 08:53:14
What's the bettings we struggle against ross county tomorrow . and we win again both leverkusen and celtic?
07 Mar 2020 09:03:58
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest Igglepiggle!
07 Mar 2020 10:38:16
I would take that any day!
07 Mar 2020 10:45:10
That's football! We will beat Celtic against the odds. Draw with Leverkusen. On we go.
07 Mar 2020 13:40:50
Yes I would take two out of three
As well.
07 Mar 2020 14:39:05
Igglepiggle,i'dbe glad enough with that mate.
07 Mar 2020 14:54:19
Igglepiggle You could well be right. But I for one is looking for 3 wins. 🇦🇺🏴⚽️👍😎.
07 Mar 2020 08:52:56
Came on here yesterday saying as long as tavs captain i won't be going to the games.
Well it was actually one of you guys that's made me see sense and do a full u turn . (Every Saturday We Follow)
07 Mar 2020 09:16:38
Glad to hear it mate it did read of frustration shows you care never a bad thing 🇬🇧🇬🇧.
07 Mar 2020 10:49:09
Glad to hear it Iggle, we need all the support we can get in the circumsrances .
Hope Wee Alex on the discussion page does the same and changes his mind.
07 Mar 2020 11:09:55
Good Iggle. Remember it’s only a game, very frustrating all be it.
Think off people all over who lose a kid, loved one parent, believe me there is nothing worse.
07 Mar 2020 11:49:14
That’s the reaction I’m looking for mate. Well played.
07 Mar 2020 13:53:39
We need all our supporters especially just now. Glad you've changed your mind igglepiggle and are going to continue following the glasgow rangers, chin up pal, we'll get there! 👍.
07 Mar 2020 14:40:25
Igglepiggle, hear, hear, mate
07 Mar 2020 08:52:39
Ed, could you run a poll, If Rangers went for the type of striker Rangers need for certain games, who would you prefer we signed, lyndon dykes of livingston, or sam cosgrove of aberdeen? Cheers!
{Ed033's Note -
Dykes / Cosgrove poll
07 Mar 2020 09:07:19
Can there not be a third option for "both are dug meat" 🤣🤣.
07 Mar 2020 09:13:27
For scottish football and with better players IMO Snell lyndon dykes Would excell at rangers.
Everytime i've seen big dykes i've been impressed with him. He would also improve further at rangers. Tell me snell for the scottish league ie. horses for courses and all that what is it mate that you don't like/ rate about lyndon dykes? Only asking because of course you're entitled to your opinion! 🤔🤔.
07 Mar 2020 10:10:18
I just see him as a big lump mate that won't work when we face the standard two banks of four. Could be wrong of course, just feel the days when we used to snap up the best of the rest aren't there just now. Premier League was a stronger level then top to bottom and don't see anyone in the top division with a striker I'd take.
07 Mar 2020 11:22:10
I’m with Snell.
07 Mar 2020 12:13:51
I get where you're coming from SGL but the manager doesn't play that way and I don't fancy watching it every week either.
It only gets you so far or Livi would be further up the table. 👍.
07 Mar 2020 12:59:36
Sometimes you just need a battering ram though. Hamilton last game being the prime example.
07 Mar 2020 13:27:29
I think dykes is a better player than he gets credit for.
07 Mar 2020 14:16:07
Sorry, SGL, got to disagree. Playing a 'battering ram' type of striker just wouldn't work against banks of 4-5 or 5-4. Guile and not brawn is required, as per Liverpool against such defences. Dykes is a slightly better proposition than Cosgrove, but then again Ojo is a slightly better proposition than Barker. Doesn't mean a lot when neither is the answer.
07 Mar 2020 16:09:45
the problem is with rangers he would be red carded every 10 minutes.
07 Mar 2020 18:34:15
Although I'm not keen on these 2 . if I was to choose between them I'd take dykes all day long.
Far better player than he gets credit for.
A real workhorse with plenty of courage.
And big Julie👠 is scared of him 😆.
07 Mar 2020 18:41:57
Both are woeful.
07 Mar 2020 08:40:01
Why do people think bringing in butcher, gough will help us. If they don't take heed to Gerrard arguably 1 of the best leaders and football players of a generation.
07 Mar 2020 13:00:43
It's nothing to do with not listening. There is just a mentally weak spine to the team. Goldson and Tavernier, captain and vice. Both mentally weak. Problem starts there.
07 Mar 2020 13:02:42
I know we all hate home but I don't think anyone can really deny that Scott Brown is an excellent captain. We don't have anyone like that. You could argue McGregor but i view him as more of a moaner than an authority figure.
07 Mar 2020 13:55:49
MikeGer, i think ryan jack would make an excellent rangers captain! So would scotty arfield right enough!
07 Mar 2020 15:04:22
Ryan Jack would certainly be better that Tav.
07 Mar 2020 15:10:58
Agreed, SGL, and there are others who, for me, would be better choices than the two we have at present. Jack, Arfield, McGregor and Davis would all be better as a short term option, but of those, Jack is the one who could really grow into it. Sadly, I'm of the opinion that we still have to sign our captain for next season, whoever that might be. You know, it might also suit Tav and Goldson to have that weight removed from them and allow them to concentrate on their game.
07 Mar 2020 16:53:16
Surely the above mentioned should be playing their part already?
They are experienced pros. They are at a big club ( some previously ) so they should know what's at stake.
07 Mar 2020 08:21:45
I know the comparison has been made on here before but the great Alex Ferguson didn't win silverware for Man Utd for four years after joining as manager and a further three years before winning the league championship. Gerrard has had two seasons and has brought us much closer. Yes, the form after the winter break has been a big disappointment but we must give Gerrard one more season to bring home the silver. There are still 10 Premiership games to play and we are still in Europe. Let's see if Gerrard can restore some pride between now and the end of the season, then some of the underperformers will have to be shipped out.
07 Mar 2020 09:14:32
With you totally DOIGER! 👍.
07 Mar 2020 11:13:46
Been saying that since last year. What's going to happen though if we lose to Ross county? People are already pssd off. I'd happy enough to beat the Gerries then beat them on that side.
07 Mar 2020 12:31:39
So if we apply the Sir Alex story to us, Gerard potentially won't win a trophy for another 2 season's and potentially another 3 before we win the league so that would be 14 in a row for them and some more trebles. I can't think of any rangers fan, even you SGL who is the most optimistic amongst us who would accept that in the name of "progress" for us.
07 Mar 2020 14:00:44
SirStruth the reason i'm optimistic is because i've got a helluva lot of experience over the years with rangers, in really bad times and of course absolutely amazing times. I honestly don't think gerrard is that far away, with consistency as well as some players with mentality problems costing us big time! I think gerrard has without doubt improved our club and deserves IMO, a 3rd year as rangers manager. I still think gerrard will win the league as our manager! 🤔.
07 Mar 2020 14:19:40
Because of the massive difference of the quality in the two leagues, I would say that 'Fergie time' of 7 years would be about three seasons up here for Rangers. Steve G knows he's got one more season to deliver trophies.
07 Mar 2020 16:17:26
the older ones of us will remember far tougher times at ibrox where coming second would be a dream. the difference this time round was that they got a 5 year lead as a start and that puts pressure on us to stop the 10. to me its important too i couldn't bear listing to the bragging rights over and over. but we have to stop this sacking managers every 2 years or less. a) we can't afford it b) it brings no stability to us and makes us look less favourably to sponsors and investors and c) i would rather lose 10.11 or 12 in a row to ensure we are financially safe. which true fan would want to see 10 in a row stopped and in a year we are liquidated again.
07 Mar 2020 08:09:37
Morning everyone let's hope we get back to wining ways starting tomorrow. IMO, SG is staying no question he has to talk the players up get them going again especially for the Europa game. But privately he knows there has to be big squad changes. For me nobody is safe players like Tav, Goldson, Barasic, Kamara, Defoe, Morelos, squad players like Haliday, Stewart, Barker, and loans players Ojo and Haji. I wouldn't blink an eye if any of all of them went some for descent money I hope. We need big athletic types in we've all got our opinions who that would be and pace is a must I'd keep Kamberi from Hibs I'd love to see us get Martin Boyle right wing speed merchant . And give Jake Hastie a run please. What do you think.
07 Mar 2020 14:45:48
Robbie, not a bad post, mate, but i think martin boyle kicks with the other foot mate, would never see him in a rangers fc strip, ever.
07 Mar 2020 07:15:08
From what I took from Gerrards presser is Golsons still not going to be dropped sl what does that say to everyone else no matter how bad him or the team is playing or how he makes mistakes that cost us the game and points he'll never be dropped!
07 Mar 2020 09:26:54
Yip - Gerrard certainly has his undropables. I'd drop a good few of the regulars and play some of the youngsters. Nothing to loose.
07 Mar 2020 12:17:51
Except a possible hammering from Ross County and another week of greeting from the usual suspects on here.
Then the throwing of the toys out the pram when not everyone agrees with their opinion. 👍.
07 Mar 2020 12:47:14
His stubbornness will be the end of him.
07 Mar 2020 14:04:44
SirStruth, most manager's are stubborn and will do it their way and that's what happens. If he or any manager fails, then they've failed doing it their way, which has to be the way, although us the supporters have different opinions at times.
Gerrard CAN'T lose his job doing it someone else's way, when he believes in his own! To you see where i'm coming from mate!
07 Mar 2020 15:14:20
SirStruth, no it won't.
07 Mar 2020 01:47:07
I've said we should have signed lyndon dykes from livingston in january there! A good few of us bears have stated that a dykes type of striker is what we're needing for certain games (horses for courses)!
Big sam cosgrove of aberdeen is another striker similar in style to dykes that we should be looking to sign. ED, could you run a poll here mate, if you don't mind pal? The poll being if rangers went for this type of striker,
who would you prefer we signed, lyndon dykes of livingston, or sam cosgrove of aberdeen? Thanks ED, much appreciated as usual pal! 👍.
07 Mar 2020 08:33:45
dykes or kamberi all day long over cosgrove coop
seen milk turn quicker than him!
07 Mar 2020 12:19:44
As soon as Cosgrove puts on a Rangers top he would get sent off!
I've never seen a player get away with fouling opposition players as he does.
07 Mar 2020 00:34:14
Just a wee note to SGL, I've noticed in your last couple of posts that you've actually accepted and understood that we all don't share the same opinion as you my friend. Its healthy to have different opinions, that's what makes a team in any environment strong. Bottom line is we're all Rangers supporters/ fans, some longer than others. I enjoy reading most posts but not the ones who criticize.