Rangers Banter Archive June 26 2020

26 Jun 2020 23:03:54
Wouldn't now be perfect opportunity to give youth a go when no fans in stadium less pressure.

27 Jun 2020 07:17:34
Once we've stopped 9 3/ 4 titles crack on pressures off untill then best team no matter what age.

27 Jun 2020 09:28:44
What about getting the fans behind the players no matter what age they are? Take the pressure off by supporting the whole team even when playing poorly or are inexperienced or when they make a mistake?

If you are suggesting that the fans are a negative pressure on any player we have a big problem!

27 Jun 2020 10:45:44
How about the players giving 100% so that the fans don't need to criticize as they certainly weren't giving their all at the end of the season. They get paid huge amounts, so therefore I'd expect 100% commitment.

27 Jun 2020 11:53:46
yes DK fans do cause negative pressure. opposition teams know simply that if they frustrate the team at Ibrox for 50-60mins our so called fans will get on the teams back.

27 Jun 2020 12:21:25
I'm with you all the way on that Stuck mate, but it seems we are not allowed to express our feelings on our players poor performances.

One in particular knows who they are, starts with a "J" always slagging off other dedicated fans opinions thinking only he / she is correct.

27 Jun 2020 13:31:15
I am nearly 70 years old and in my time of watching, playing, coaching and writing about football I have hardly ever seen a professional player who deliberately doesn't try. It is just not in the nature of the beast. Sure, criticise when a player is off form or sluggish or has simply lost it (it happens) but don't ever believe this rubbish that they are not giving 100%. They are. It's just that their 100%, like yours, differs from time to time, as individuals, as a group, whether you or on a high or a low, occasionally the pressure and, the most debilitating of all, thousands of people who are supposed to support you give you grief and abuse week in week out.

27 Jun 2020 14:10:41
I've been watching football for years and there are definitely times when players are not giving 100%. This results in substitutions then perhaps being dropped. Rangers certainly did not give 100 % towards the end of the season.

27 Jun 2020 14:17:58
DK would say that this year will be the worst for fans pressure. Right or wrong the fans will be more anxious than ever for the league title. Pretty sure it happens at all big clubs.

27 Jun 2020 15:44:48
Thinking calling people"so called fans" is a bit out of order tbh. Sometimes, criticism is due. If not at times towards the end of season, it would have just been accepting mediocrity.

27 Jun 2020 17:05:45
Think conflating different aspects of preparation and performance of the modern footballer with statement “trying 100pc”. A number of our senior players have not been mentally prepared, motivated and focused to do the job required of a rangers player, and have let us down On matches. Does that mean they are not “trying 100pc” what ever that means?

27 Jun 2020 17:17:32
Herewego, what you are saying if correct, noone is above criticism, however negative criticism by its definition is not supporting. "Fan" by definition is fanatical supporter, supporter by definition is someone who champions, promotes or advocates. Criticism isn't there in any of those definitions. So i am correct in saying its so called fans who are booing and criticising a team or individual during matchplay. it doesn't not make the person play better on the park, indeed the opposite effect is true. A person being criticised on the park will usually hide, not want the ball for fear of further criticism. Of course after the game there is adequate time to criticise but often you will find a good player will be self critical anyway.

27 Jun 2020 18:07:34
Herewego55 who said that? Can't find it here. Are you adding something that isn't there just to suit your narrative?

27 Jun 2020 18:10:24
The Stuck, what nonsense! Loss of form or making mistakes does NOT equate to not giving 100%!

27 Jun 2020 21:15:34
So to summarise what a few are saying.

It’s ok to cause one of our players or even the whole team to lose confidence and therefore lose form (and potentially lose matches) so long as the fans can have their say and shout their opinions?

My view is that the fans should be the extra man that helps the team when we are not playing well right through the final whistle. Encourage and support anyone who is having a poor game, boo the opposition.

27 Jun 2020 23:29:07
Covenanter, what nonsense, read my post, I never mentioned players making mistakes. My post is about players not giving their all, not giving 100 %. Wake up, it happens my friend and if Rangers players continue to give less than that they are not good enough for Rangers. I can certainly mention a few. Morelos being 1, fantastic player when he tries but on occasion his head goes down this not giving 100 %. As I say Morelos is just an example, he's proved he can do it.

27 Jun 2020 23:51:24
Covenanter, geesadod said"our so called fans will turn on the team" maybe read before you accuse me of twisting things mate 👍.

27 Jun 2020 23:56:34
I get you're point geesa, I'm not a half time booer, never have been, but I also understand the frustration of others, when being served up what can only be described as dross the last few games mate.

28 Jun 2020 01:02:03
To an extent dk, those players are paid money most people can only dream of to handle the pressure of the jersey. They can't be immune to criticism, that's not realistic mate.

28 Jun 2020 10:36:12
55 it’s not realistic for fans to expect a player low on confidence or form to react positively when his own fans boo him every time he gets the ball.

If fans want the team to win, they should get behind the team no matter what. For years Liverpool have talked about the Kop being the 12th man but our fans (not all) prefer to share their opinions on poor form whilst the team are on the pitch.

Last season you could see Kamara shy away from the ball because of the abuse he was getting when his form had dipped.

28 Jun 2020 13:32:57
It shows how far we've falling, when people just accept mediocrity. That's my only point dk. Hamilton beat us at ibrox now, people think folk aren't entitled to voice that it's not acceptable.

28 Jun 2020 20:12:47
DK I don't think booing your own players is what anyone is suggesting nor was I. The problem with being a fan is it's ruled by emotion so a bad pass when were under pressure will be met with a sigh or more from the stand. Good play the reverse. Point I'm making is it means even more this year as they are going for 9 and 3/ 4 I'm sure passions will be higher. We need to find a way of shifting the pressure on to the Celtic as early as we can and hopefully watch them crumble.

26 Jun 2020 20:59:00
Here is something for comment. Following the reconstruction failure and based on self preservation for clubs finding themselves in the bottom eight following the six-eight split. They would lose out on nearly £200,000 through the loss of a home game against Rangers, hence they kicked out our proposal.
We should boycott away grounds as they are money grabbers.

The loss from any successful court action by Hearts and Partick Thistle would be far more costly to them all bet Doncaster and co didn't tell member clubs that they are liable if appeal successful.
Time for action 1,000 tickets only for away games.

26 Jun 2020 21:35:46
You mean, our team should do without our support because of some bitter and twisted complaint?

I’m pretty sure our manager would rather hear our fans cheering on our players than simply be goaded by the opposition fans.

We are better than petty boycotts.

26 Jun 2020 23:59:44
Definitely boycott for me every time. If we can go to the chamber and win with 700 fans then what"s the problem?

27 Jun 2020 08:25:59
The problem is seeker when it comes to semi finals and finals as we always moan about hibs hearts aberdeen getting half the allocation. Do we just take 1000 tickets for a semi final against that mob.

27 Jun 2020 09:45:17
Fauldhoose, at least in semis and finals the money is split evenly is my reckoning.
Filling all of these stadiums to the max, only puts money into their coffers.
8 out of 10 stadiums even with only 1000 tickets, we will still be heard.

27 Jun 2020 11:49:46
Correct Baz72.

27 Jun 2020 19:19:24
So we just give the money to the sfa but not any clubs. I don't get some of our fans sometimes.

26 Jun 2020 19:48:23
Thoughts go out to everyone involved in today's events in Glasgow, also massive well done to liverpool fc on winning the league.

26 Jun 2020 21:16:38
Here here kaikai, god bless all the people in hospital and hope and pray they all pull through 🙏.

26 Jun 2020 21:19:19
100%. Some folks hate the police and on the back of the tragic events in the US some have used that as a vehicle to abuse our own police. Whether you like them or not somebodies son or daughter was on scene within 2 mins tonight UNARMED to take on an knife wielding murdering individual. Hats off to all our emergency services.

26 Jun 2020 23:08:41
Absolutely TJBB, the abuse of police officers in recent weeks has been sickening. I doubt any of the people complaining about them would have the bravery displayed by the now critically ill officer who was at those horrific scenes in Glasgow today.

As you say, hats off to all our emergency services.

27 Jun 2020 00:01:04
Agree 100% guys. Well said.

27 Jun 2020 16:13:47
100% behind all of our Emergency Services, the Police in particular did a great job last night, and, in my opinion have been wrongly abused in recent weeks.

28 Jun 2020 01:03:33
Couldn't agree more lads 👍.

26 Jun 2020 19:20:23
First time post any thoughts on jack Wiltshire on a freebie if he lowered his wages. also I believe Alfredo will stay with us this year. finally some of the names people on hear suggesting like shankland and Cosgrove and a few others. come on really these guys are never rangers class they might be ok with there clubs there at now . but the rangers Jersey is to big for these guys.

26 Jun 2020 20:01:08
Wouldn't touch Wilshere with a barge pole mate, what a player when fully fit but keys be fair he's been hoovering up 100 plus grand a week whilst injured for the best part of 8 years now.

26 Jun 2020 20:08:19
If jack wiltshere could stay fit, i'd love him at ibrox! He's a terrific midfielder who does like our club as he's stated a few times before.

26 Jun 2020 20:50:31
Awesome talent but far too expensive a risk unfortunately.

26 Jun 2020 22:07:03
Pay as you play would be only way most clubs would touch him now I'd imagine.

26 Jun 2020 22:11:25
He's not called Jack Wheelchair for nothing. In the past 5 years he has averaged 15 games a season. Good player sometimes, ridiculous wages, second day he'd hand in a sick note. No chance, we can't afford that size of risk.

26 Jun 2020 22:34:30
If he stayed fit then yes but you can’t guarantee that so it’s a hell no from me too much of a gamble.

26 Jun 2020 22:41:22
Even pay as u play we would be lucky to get 10 games a season out of him.

27 Jun 2020 00:00:37
Means he would only get paid 10 games a season then, he's some player if he's fit.

27 Jun 2020 00:02:38
Gets injured putting on his boots.

27 Jun 2020 08:59:50
Mer expensive Rossiter?

27 Jun 2020 09:46:52
Like most of above it would be too big a risk, even taking a massive wage cut he would still probably be our highest earner and with his injury record I think it would be a gamble to big to consider.

26 Jun 2020 18:26:41
Question for my fellow Bears. Was listening to the radio following Liverpool winning the EPL and the playing of you will never walk alone. I thought to myself some clubs have iconic songs/ tunes that most folks even non footballing would link them with. what's ours? In Sco I would have to say simply the best. Always makes the hairs stand up when you here the first note, no matter where I am.

26 Jun 2020 18:40:39
Also the roy orbiston song the penny arcade TJBB!

26 Jun 2020 19:50:41
We have never really had a proper anthem like YNWA, Nothern lights of Aberdeen, sunshine on leith etc. As much as we dislike they tribes, the slow ballads sung by thousands are phenomenal sounding. We have some great songs to sing but some of our match day versions are terrible. I much prefer the slower traditional versions. The blue sea of Ibrox and every other Saturday match day versions are not great. They are to fast at points and the crowd lose it!

26 Jun 2020 19:57:43
Totally Coops! Oh and BTY my lad spent some of his xmas money a few weeks ago and bought 2 retro tops of the internet Addidas Mcewans lager Luadrup n011. He was in a shop today with it on and a group of bears were well impressed. The other top was a plain blue from the 60s. Both really good quality and look great on my lad.

26 Jun 2020 20:17:16
C of Ibrox that's what I was thinking listening to YNWA and I have to admit a bit of jealousy over sunshine on Leith, over to you Mrs MacDonald, get a balad written.

26 Jun 2020 22:35:53
Sooner we win the league sooner we can get back to singing championees 😆.

27 Jun 2020 16:18:03
Love the blue, blue, blue sea of Ibrox.

27 Jun 2020 16:23:35
I just wish we would drop all the crap we sometimes sing, as it has cost us in the past, Penny Arcade or simply the best for me (without reference to (HHTP and the IRA), nothing to do with Rangers, and yes, in my younger days, I've sang a few of the wrong songs, I just feel it's time for us to move on.

26 Jun 2020 18:10:02
Not to sound too pessimistic but does anyone actually see us buying any other players without selling some. A bit concerned that the money we were supposed to have as investment hasn't arrived yet has anyone heard or know anything? With regards to the accounts have they been announced for submission? Reason I ask is it gives a bit of realism for the season.

26 Jun 2020 18:23:00
IoM2?

26 Jun 2020 18:48:09
I want to see some players heading out - for money. Goldson, Kamara, Barker ( unlikely to get money for him) and a few others. I do not want to see us paying players to leave, again!

26 Jun 2020 18:55:53
😂 I'm Isle of Rum his long lost cousin. Not being negative only reason I ask is Gerrard said he would be backed if it made financial sense to do so. So are fans right to expect the players we are linked with? Or is it a case of be happy with what we have?

26 Jun 2020 15:58:33
Hand on heart coop and coldo honest question what makes yous think that kamberi and dykes are the answer this season?

In all honesty a think there decent bench options but need a higher calibre player to take the title.

Not a dig coldo but Kent got to come up big this season same as aribo, Kent should be versatile enough in the modern game to play a number of diff attacking options so give me the 'Gerrards fault wrong position nonsense'.

Most likely we will sign a range of players that go undetected and if we do sign kamberi, dykes, shankland, tapias Dutch doppelganger hopefully they prove me wrong and prove their gers quality.

26 Jun 2020 16:43:11
I never mentioned dykes, I said he'd be a gamble and this season we can't afford gambles.

Kamberi was a breath of fresh air to our starting 11. Kent kamberi and hagi tore braga apart over there. Kamberi's goal against st johnstone was class and him and morelos in a 442 looked really good.

Shankland not good enough.

Aribo i have my doubts.

Kent has tore celtic apart on numerous occasions, mostly played out of position, I'd be pointing the finger at gerrard gazza. Gerrard has a lot of learning to do hopefully he has. Big season for him. 👍.

26 Jun 2020 16:48:53
Gazzaloyal, if you read my posts regarding us possibly signing lyndon dykes you would know the answer without asking me again mate. No dig here whatsoever. Imo i want us to sign lyndon dykes because in certain games, if all isn't going to plan, the big man gives us a totally different option up front, to what we already have in morelos and defoe.
For CERTAIN games in scottish football big dykes would do a job for us, again this is my honest opinion! I never once stated by signing dykes, that he should be a regular no.1 striker, up top for us. I also stated before that IF we sell morelos, by signing dykes i don't think he would be the class striker replacement for alfredo. I hope i've let you understand what i'm meaning regarding why i would like us to sign dykes mate. I can't answer about kamberi, because i've always said imo we shouldn't sign him permanently, but that's not to say he's not a decent striker, so coldo would be best answering your question on kamberi pal! 👍.

26 Jun 2020 17:42:04
Shankland, kamberi, Ferguson, dykes, for me would be decent acquisitions for improving the bench and would be decent coming on to give us something different in games we're struggling as you say coldo like kamberi vs St Johnstone or say dykes getting brought on late on but none of them are first team material for a season like this.

As much as I hate to say your right coldo - EVEN though Kent did not have a great season we can all see he will be a big player for us this season and i think he will flourish if we sell morelos as I don't think they have a great relationship.

I also think there's a player in aribo and I think hel b a big player for us.

Wouldn't b upset to sell kamara or Goldson, barker has to go 🙈🙈.

One things for sure the core of our team for last year will remain with a few areas been strengthened, we've seen on the park in Europe and vs the unwashed we can boss them so i'd say the attitude and mental side have to be improved to believe we're worthy winners this year.

26 Jun 2020 18:05:04
Think all the players mentioned would strengthen our squad and would allow us to change it up a bit more rather than the current plan B being plan A better none sense - I know that was the bread man but Gerrard is much the same.

Kent is a player that frustrates the life out of me. Yes the boy has talent but he needs some serious coaching to be a success at our club. And Gerrard needs to take most of the blame for this. The boy has been with us for 2 seasons now and he isn’t any better when he came. He doesn’t know when to pass, when to cut inside or when to take it down the line. His stats for an attacking forward are nothing less than shocking. He contributes almost nothing.

Yes he scored great goals against Celtic and Hamilton but that’s about it.

I wonder if we have ever had a player that loses possession as much as he does?

Hopefully The coaches and Kent have used this time off to really analyse his game on a tactical level. If he doesn’t improve fast then it will be up to the next manager to sort him out ship him out!

26 Jun 2020 18:30:23
100% spot on zikos, that season there for me I thought he would kick on but seems to have taken a step back.

So frustrating can clearly see there's a player there but I think he's a lot like Alfie with a petulent attitude I. e turns his back if a pass doesn't go his way, doesn't know when to cut in or take a man on, sometimes looks disinterested.

Can only hope something changes as he should be 1 of our big hitters and right now as you say his stats are shocking.

26 Jun 2020 18:49:55
Guys i honestly think ianis hagi will be a massive creative player for us, in this penultimate season of all seasons! This young man has everything and i was pleased to hear gerrard saying they're bulking him up a bit, for the rigours of scottish football! Young hagi is equally as good with both feet, so doesn't have a so called weak side.

26 Jun 2020 18:54:32
Hope the boy comes good, but I remember having the same thoughts on Windass, and tbh I think windlass probably edges Kent atm.

I will try and keep positive though and say he does have talent, is still young and has time in his side.

26 Jun 2020 19:29:50
Agreed sgl hagi going to be big for us, majority of man's I've spoke too are split 50/ 50 but I'm most definately looking forward to seeing him play more this season, think he might be special for us, then again I still think aribo will be big for us 🙈🙈

In all honesty I think it's going to click this season, got to be optimistic.

26 Jun 2020 13:34:50
An "coworker" is banging on about how we should have at least 1 historical title less - Dumbarton in the 1890s should be awarded the title? - that this should be looked at by the SFA/ SPFL. Bearing in mind he is one of them, what is the/ is there any issue here?

26 Jun 2020 13:45:43
Tell your Tim co-worker to stop trying to justify an unearned tainted title that wasn't WON on the pitch. 👍😷👀
Rangers title with Dumbarton was shared due to the football rules at that time.
And Rangers have never hidden that fact. We've always had a footnote as a reference point. 👍
The Tim's on the other hand are claiming this year's title ( Lennon ) as one of their greatest achievements. Embarrassing. 👍😂😂😂.

26 Jun 2020 13:49:59
No issues. Not being looked at.

26 Jun 2020 13:52:14
No issue we finished on the same points. I thought we both got it.

26 Jun 2020 14:13:07
Both teams finished on the same points with Rangers on an inferior goal difference.

Goal difference wasn't in the rules then, so instead a playoff took place and the teams drew so the league was won by both.

Tell your workmate nobody can go back in time and rewrite those rules, not even Peter Lawwell.

26 Jun 2020 14:15:36
Dumbarton had a better goal difference and a better head to head than Rangers but the rules stated a play off game should be played to determine the champions.
The play off game finished 2-2 and the league title was halved.
Rangers were in the driving seat with 2 games to play but lost 2-1 to Celtic at Ibrox.

26 Jun 2020 14:18:20
Tell your pals if we didn't claim that one will they claim their awarded one for this season and bust their 8.75 in a row? Wonder what the response will be 🤔.

26 Jun 2020 14:59:35
Nothing like empowering a fellow bear.

26 Jun 2020 16:51:26
Do we count the titles that we won under Bill Struth during the war years?

26 Jun 2020 18:30:28
the title wasnt halved it was shared. you don't get shared 2nd place and no first place, you get shared first place and no second place. it is still a shared title not a half a title.

26 Jun 2020 20:18:43
6 and half a dozen. 😂.

26 Jun 2020 12:36:39
What do people think of Sekou Gassama? A know videos can make players look like world beaters but he looks as if the Scottish game would suit him with his physicality, knows where goal is aswel.

26 Jun 2020 13:00:21
Rangers have strongly denied yesterday, that they're not even remotely interested in gassama and the story is total rubbish! So the answer Deano1872,is a honestly don't care how good or bad he is, as he's of no interest to rangers pal!

26 Jun 2020 15:01:45
Coops, clear you don’t believe they protest too much.

26 Jun 2020 15:14:41
So coop if we don't sign dykes this window we can all come on and have a go at you for all your polls and 'IMHO' posts regarding dykes😂😂😂😂😂how do u even know we have concrete interest in him coop just like anyone?, what about bassey or mclaughlin no one knew we had interest in them .
Guys asked a question and as usual you snipe, sound like a bitter wee boy, about time you and coldo started your on forum of polls and thumbs up 👍👍👍👍.

Deano not seen him play pal so can't comment except watchn YouTube vids or reading fan posts on him.

26 Jun 2020 15:28:47
Strange you call coop bitter, yet your whole post is clearly bitter. Did someone give you a fact that you couldn't handle gazza. If we started our own forum gazza we wouldn't let you play😂😂👍.

26 Jun 2020 15:49:12
Was wondering when coops cheerleader would pop up again, u better watch you don't get banned again coldo for your persistent kamberi and Kent wrong position best 7 million we will ever spend in fantasy land posts 👍👍👍👍👍👍

Rangers Forum for mostly fans and a few Tim imposters and all yous 2 do is slate fellow bears and make yous 2 are always correct 😂😂😂😂jeezo coop even told posters on here the other week he'd seen players play against us who were clearly on the bench (tapia👍👍😬😬)

Yous 2 are like the chuckle brothers.
'to me coop, to you coldo'

26 Jun 2020 16:52:07
You clearly can't handle it gazza😂😂😂👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍.

26 Jun 2020 17:05:37
Wind your neck in Gazzaloyal and take a breath! 👍You probably thought tapia was a pudding, just like yourself! 😂Have a good day my friend, jesus loves you!

26 Jun 2020 17:35:21
A bit of ganging up going on there and take a step back boys and you don’t always need to have the last word lads.

26 Jun 2020 18:15:54
Chuckle brothers! 🤣🤣🤣.