Rangers Banter Archive February 14 2020

14 Feb 2020 23:32:47
So who's in instead of Goldson?
Katic and Edmundson? That gives me the fear! Both raw and naive, inexperienced and still making mistakes.

And paired in a TEAM that aren't playing well.
This isn't a time for rash decisions. We still have a Scottish Cup to win.
A chance to progress in the Europa League and still finish strongly in the league.
And everybody wants wholesale changes to out in their favourites? 😳.

15 Feb 2020 07:57:54
Goldson is very naive and makes more mistakes than anyone in the team. So your point is.

14 Feb 2020 23:22:07
Not made my mind up about wanting sg sacked but I posted back when sg signed a new contract and I posted it was crazy to give him a new contract at the time as it would've been better to see how this season pans out and was slated for my views.

15 Feb 2020 08:36:58
I remember your post mate and agreed with u.

14 Feb 2020 20:18:42
looking back at the highlights of the Killie game, the ref got a few things wrong, but he also did us a favour too. Later in the second half Morelos went down in the Killie box and no matter how you look at it, it was a 70/ 30 case of another dive. He might score goals but he IS damaging our club. . He could, and probably should have been sent off. He has lost his way again and his hothead reputation is totally justified. Personally, I think we should sell him come the summer and invest in another couple of decent strikers, who? no idea but that's what we pay Wilson for.

14 Feb 2020 21:59:45
I was for keeping him, but I think it's time. If someone will buy him though.

14 Feb 2020 23:53:44
Marco C, that's the problem now. Every black mark against him and his value drops, we'll be lucky to get 10 mil at this rate, so on top of him losing us points, he is ALSO starting to lose us revenue. Don't get me wrong, he IS a good goal getter, but sadly his culture is not fitting into Glasgow, and his lack of English can't possibly be helping him to settle either.

15 Feb 2020 05:56:24
Last couple games morelos has been utter sh! te. he's trying too hard to promote this big money move he so desperately wants that he's making far too many mistakes which is costing rangers goals / wins. the chances he's has in the last few games he wouldve buried in the 1st half of the season. and the diving. just makes him look like an idiot. in his current form no team from the epl is going to go near him.

1st half of season he couldve played for any team in the epl and look like he belonged but right now he would be a bench warmer for west ham. IF he's LUCKY. he just doesn't look like he wants to be here anymore playing for us. on his good day he's amazing and bullies defenders with ease.

but right now even my 7 yo could steal his lunch money. yes i love the guy for scoring all the goals he did before end of december. yes he's won us games. But he's impressing no one atm and in his current form an offer of 15 mil would be enough for me to say BYE because right now he's a liability. don't agree with people on here calling him a hothead again. its the diving and missed chances i'm pissed about.

15 Feb 2020 08:21:47
He just needs managed better at times. As soon as he was booked for diving, I would have substituted him.
1/ because he is then a liability for the team if he gets sent off
2/ as a punishment as I personally hate diving in the game
3/ it gives Stewart / Kamberi a chance to show what they can do.

16 Feb 2020 09:34:41
Were you thinking that when he battered in all those goals for us. Most strikers dive every game, one touch on the back and a striker will go down to win a free kick. You are getting sucked into the media hype about Fred. he's no different from any other player in Scotland, the media are being RACIST, Cosgrove for example is a very physical player and if he was in Fred body the media would have a field day.

14 Feb 2020 16:25:43
Just going through the both teams at full strength. We have got 2 Scots in McGregor and jack. They have 5 Scots in taylor brown McGregor forrest grithiffs. Do you think having home based players who know what it means to play for both clubs makes any difference. I'm thinking back to goram brown Ferguson's durrant McCall mccoist.

14 Feb 2020 16:57:54
A huge difference. At the start of the season we also had Stewart, Dorrans, Docherty, McRorie and Murphy who were all Rangers fans who know what it means to play for the club and that you have to win every game. They were all moved on either permanent or on loan to be replaced by mental weaklings like Aribo and Ojo. Only Stewart remains and can’t get a game because Ryan Kent apparently MUST play even though he’s hardly kicked a ball all season.

14 Feb 2020 17:09:10
I'd count arfield, he's Canadian although he was brought up in Scotland as gers fan. It does make a difference but that's not the reason we're 10 points behind.

14 Feb 2020 17:18:59
Obviously they have to be good enough guys. Also missed out gough durie probably plenty others.

14 Feb 2020 18:13:59
Arfield was born and raised in Scotland. His father is Canadian. He plays for Canada because for some reason he wasnt getting a sniff at the Scotland team despite playing well for Burnley in the EPL everyweek.

14 Feb 2020 18:51:02
Kent and Aribo have more talent than Stewart, Docherty, Dorrans and Murphy combined!

14 Feb 2020 18:53:20
Look at the Eufa cup run and league success around that time. Not the greatest of rangers squads compared with others in the previous years, but a core of scottish players who know what it means to play for rangers.

14 Feb 2020 19:56:08
Tupac I instantly question that. Kent has done nothing at several loan spells across English football, Murphy had a long career at a good level in England. Aribo has done nothing in his career yet at 23, Dorrans had achieved more by that age. Just blinded again by the fact the celebrity brought them in.

14 Feb 2020 20:00:54
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you seem 'blinded' by your views on SG thewagsman.

14 Feb 2020 20:58:10
Aribo and Kent playing too much FIFA! Talented, yes . winners, doubtful. lazy, totally
Should be benched tomorrow.

14 Feb 2020 21:30:32
Mr grumpy, there are a few on here that seam to forget where we have been lately, how long are we back in the premier league, yet some think it should be a doddle to win it again.

14 Feb 2020 23:28:41
Nope, some just expect standards to rise after £11m+ investment over the summer, rather than a replay of this time last year.

Grumpy - Gerrard doesn’t have the class to manage this club, he never did.

15 Feb 2020 08:05:45
It’s about where we are the now, we lost against a team who had only won twice all season, lost against a poor Killie team, we struggle against teams who sit on their 18 yard line. And the way the board have backed Gerrard bloody right we should be challenging. So none of this crap we’ve only been back in the premier league a few seasons have a word with yourself.

15 Feb 2020 08:23:16
Scottg65, you must be having a laugh. Lazy? Kent is certainly one of our hatdest working players even when he's not firing on all cylinders. Aribo is also a hard worker and against Killie he was the main CM who was trying to get forward. Aribo is a bit soft in the tackle but he's certainly not lazy.

15 Feb 2020 08:30:32
As soon as Murphy and Dorrans reached the EPL with their respective clubs they were binned Swagman.
Plenty talk about ambition on here. If you're happy to big up 2 guys who couldn't wait to come back up the road to Rangers at the later stage of their careers rather than 2 young prospects - 1 who was going to Belgium for £7 million before we stepped in and the other who was Championship bound for £5 million then that's your opinion.
Nothing to do with your derogatory comments abouts our 'Celebrity ' manager.

16 Feb 2020 12:25:33
swagman, i they have had at least 200 million at least from champions league, that's part of the level playing field i mentioned, that you and others can't understand? It puzzles my head as to how you couldn't work that out for youself mate, you and others on here.

14 Feb 2020 15:21:34
Swagman you're now becoming irrational with this never ending tirade against our manager we've played 25 games in league won 19 drawn 3 lost 3 Scored 60 conceded 16 through to last 32 in Europe having once again qualified through the groups
Is that genuinely form that's worthy of ripping up and starting again?
I appreciate your entitled to your opinion but it seems a bit OTT.

14 Feb 2020 15:56:40
agreed blue blue sea.

14 Feb 2020 16:39:57
B B sea so u accept 2nd 2nd is nothing SG is not working out simple.

14 Feb 2020 16:43:38
I’m hurting just as much as the next guy but totally agree with the above post. Just out of curiosity swagman, say we bin gerrard (I still think he’s the man but needs to freshen his system up at times) who replaces him considering our serious lack of funds and be realistic?

14 Feb 2020 17:01:27
Serious lack of funds? I must be living on a different plane of existence from everyone else.

Here are the facts:

1. He is a rookie manager. That should never be acceptable for a club our size.
2. He spent over £11m this summer. Hardly “limited funds. ”
3. He has ONE tactic that he refuses to deviate from.

I’m just not blinded by his name. Glasgow Rangers is and always will be bigger than Steven Gerrard. He is lucky to be our manager, not the other way around.

14 Feb 2020 17:06:55
Dsgersfan it’s not case of acceptance of 2nd it’s a accept ance if where we are, where we’ve been the point i'm making is our form as listed genuine cause to sack manager? yet another massive pay off another rebuild inn the 10 in a row season I’m not saying there’s not problems but it nowhere near as bad as many on here are making out
It’s all about opinions I think at times we forget we’re all fans of this great club but we need to support at times like this all I’m asking is a sense of perspective.

14 Feb 2020 17:48:10
Fair doos but I can't see improvement from last year.

14 Feb 2020 17:58:05
Totally agree with you blue blue sea. Theswagman it is getting a bit full on regarding your tirade against steven gerrard. I'll state my opinion again. He deserves at least 3 years as rangers manager because we have improved a helluva lot under him, simple as that! I just don't know how a few of our supporters can see this. Of course gerrard has made mistakes, but he's done a helluva lot of good over the bad. Get behind the manager and the team for god's sake.

14 Feb 2020 18:47:12
Plenty of 'rookie managers' at big clubs over the years. Is SG good enough for rangers? Time will tell. I still think he can be a success. Think its easy to forget where we were before he joined us.

14 Feb 2020 18:54:27
The Swagman calls him a 'Celebrity' manager and his choice to succeed him? Gio! 4 years in Holland and 1 league title!

14 Feb 2020 19:18:37
In my last post I said that Gerrard had been sacked and that Theswagman had been appointed as Manager because he had all the answers. I obviously got it wrong as he is still hear condemning our Manager instead of supporting him. How many were saying he was the new mesiah when appointed, and who are now wanting him out the door

We all new he was a rookie manager when he was appointed by Dave King. What did you expect? winning the trebble in the 1st/ 2nd year? Get real guys he is a rookie. Do I accept being 2nd to Celtic or any other team? off course I don't. If things are much the same this time next year, then I will consider that it could be P45 time.

Shoot me down all you want. I have my opinions and you have yours.

14 Feb 2020 19:57:13
Nobody deserves more than 2 years and zero trophies at Ibrox.

14 Feb 2020 20:55:01
If you read my post again correctly and care to answer like I asked, we would have to pay gerrard off and it would cost a fortune to bring in a higher calibre of manager so AGAIN who would be brought in to do a better job? You are losing the plot with you’re hatred towards Gerrard. Must be quality sitting at you’re dining table.

14 Feb 2020 21:42:15
Blue blue sea, i agree with you mate, swagman of course none of us like finishing second to celtic, but once we are on a level playing field with them we will start winning the league again, with gerrard.

14 Feb 2020 23:30:32
I don’t hate him, I just don’t think he’s a good manager.

Level playing field? Please tell me their net transfer outlay and our net transfer outlay this summer?

16 Feb 2020 08:14:10
A bit over the top? Disgraceful posts after a couple of bad results if you ask me with still loads of games to play.

16 Feb 2020 09:33:54
Killie manager has peanuts at his disposal in the job a few weeks yet his team are able to bulldoze Rangers off the park despite gerrard having 2 years and £21 million to play with now tell me gerrard is a great manager.

16 Feb 2020 12:22:05
Theswagman, level playing field, celtic have had 8 years of spending more money than us, level playing field, when we have a decent pool of 20/25 players to choose from, just like deltic, tho i hope it does not take us 8 year to catch them, but it wouldn't surprise me, is that a good enough explanation for you to work out swagman?

16 Feb 2020 12:23:57
Oops forgot to mention celtic have outspent us the last 8 year, tho i don't understand how you couldn't work out what i meant, without me having to simplify thing for you.

14 Feb 2020 13:37:39
to put this present situation into perspective --its bleak, no doubt about that, 7 points back after we beat saints at ibrox ----we win the 2 games against celtic we are a point behind-----so the bottom line here is we have to win every game---no other scenario fits the bill---and the goal difference would mean they must draw a game ----it CAN be done but Gerard MUST change the system to 2 upfront ---give kamberi a chance upfront with morelos ---make other teams worry about us instead of the other way around----its not over until its over-------I remember helicopter sunday like it was yesterday ---.

14 Feb 2020 14:31:32
Except he won’t change the system. Because that’s not how Liverpool play.

14 Feb 2020 16:30:06
I think we will have to go all out attack in every game we have the players to do it I think we have made progress under sg and we need to give him the support I agree with deecee I remember Celtic beating us at ibrox and when i went to my local I said we would still win the league because their defenders were leaking goals every week and the whole pub laughed at me one even said he would strip naked if we won the league and do what we did (helicopter Sunday will live with me for ever) and yes he did strip off and he did go on the roof and he still talks about it to this day so as big marvin said that year keep believing 🇬🇧🇬🇧.

16 Feb 2020 08:11:43
I agree deecee. Until it's mathematically over we can never give up. i'm like the rest of you, totally disappointed at our form since the break but how good would it be to come back from this situation and snatch it on the last game. I remember helicopter Sunday to. I remember them opening the stadium up to fans as the team returned from the east coast. The atmosphere was amazing. Fans turned up in their thousands just by word of mouth. Never give up!

16 Feb 2020 12:24:12
The swagman, so if gerrard brought the full liverpool team up to ibrox do you think we would lose the league, no we wouldn't, it took celtic 8 years to build there team, how you thought we could win the league so soon really baffles me.

14 Feb 2020 08:59:27
I read Tav's comments yesterday, what is really concerning was what he told was said in the dressing room at half time, quote " keep a clean sheet we win the game " WTF, I bet you over at the midden at half time the quotes in the dressing room would have been score another 1 or 2 and put this game to bed. That's the difference, it's the whole teams mentality including the coaching staff, unbelievable glass half full, hang in there guys, that's our problem, look in the mirror Rangers, you must see this is where it's going wrong . fundamentally rotten to the core of the team.

14 Feb 2020 10:09:29
That’s part of the mentality problem right there! Coming straight from the captain.

14 Feb 2020 10:35:09
Bmf, when you look back at the performances even before Stevie's arival we rarely put games to bed and even lose when 2 or so up.

Someone somewhere in the coaching staff must have instilled that mentality in the squad.

Whoever they are must be weeded out and removed before we get humiliated any further.

As far as I'm concerned if true then they should be fired immediately without compensation for industral misconduct.

14 Feb 2020 11:52:06
said it on here before, but I think the occasional change to a 3-5-2 for example would be beneficial - other teams have the current system sussed.

14 Feb 2020 12:20:25
Been lurking on here for some time. Shamed into posting by Ed001 comments on those of us who prefer to read (nowadays) .
Good posts lads would just add on Tavernier that he is one of the more exciting footballers but he had a good relationship with our little Portugese winger who often moved back to fill in the gap the "captain" left surging forward.
A lot of criticism for young wingers like Hastie but being honest how much of this is due to the full back occupying the winger's (showing my age- wide midfielder) position?
Talented footballer no doubt and real attacking threat so why not move Tavernier forward and bring in Polster or young Patterson to right back?
Mr Gerrard in my opinion is the right man but if only he could get some help from someone like Walter then he might
- Make substitutions far earlier
- Appoint an inspirational captain
- Place in team on form not cause they are your favourites
- Use the squad more fully

And don't settle for one nil go for two, three and more

Its difficult at the moment but remember big Marvin - "keep believing"

14 Feb 2020 13:00:25
Bluebilly - “someone in the coaching staff”? ITS THE MANAGER! Get him fired!

14 Feb 2020 13:21:50
Wecome and good post Lurky .

Unfortunately don't think Stevie or the players come on here for advice.

Perhaps if they did and used some suggestions (no mine i don't have any experience) we would no be in the state we are in at the moment.

Cheers.

14 Feb 2020 14:47:37
Swagman, I was once a manager not in football tho but it's the same in every business, the manager is the puppet and scapegoat who is controlled by the directors.

I'm pretty sure Steve is the same and the coaching staff other than him have the main say in what happens, trust my experience mate.

14 Feb 2020 17:59:03
Do you say it's only the training coaching side the manager handles then bluebilly? .