03 Oct 2025 11:34:16
I was saying on the live chat last night if people think it's just Martin that's the problem then think again. Our signings are woeful, a lot will say it's Martin's tactics and I'll agree to a certain degree. If you take gassa for example, now I know he's not been brilliant, but many times he's shown glimpses of his quality shining through under the same tactics as the rest of them, so why aren't we seeing even glimpses from the rest?
It's simple the quality isn't there. You can't play in that amount of games without something clicking at some point. Imo Thelwell is more to blame than anyone, he's the one that brought martin and his pals and his son and the players, he's the root of all this. Martin out, Thelwell out!
03 Oct 2025 12:13:45
Boy blue, I'm convinced with a better manager these players would be doing much better.
Martin is a huge problem!
03 Oct 2025 12:15:21
Under a better manager, as fans we don't even know the names of half the people filling these roles - in fact, we don't even know half these roles exist!
The combination of Martin's poor coaching ability and his arrogance in the face of the media has created a level of toxicity that's spilled way beyond anything I've ever seen before.
Personally I believe that the only person who needs replacing is Martin.
03 Oct 2025 12:15:55
Add Stewart to that list, agree think a new manager will improve us bad sadly not enough our signings look dreadful, anyone surprised going down the lower English route it's hardly been a success over the years, I'm now at a stage that I've lost interest and no longer look forward to our games.
03 Oct 2025 12:18:17
If Martin is forcing the players to play a certain way, a way that these players cannot then its never going to work.
A good coach/ manager plays to the strengths of the players. Martin hasn't got a clue.
He then throws them all under the bus saying its their mentality. what he is actually saying is that he is not a good enough coach to get through to the players and coach them how to do the tactics etc.
Its so hilariously embarrassing.
Curtis was playing well, scored a few goals and now he is nowhere to be seen.
03 Oct 2025 12:29:16
Bb4 I tend to agree our defence is a complete mess and worse than last year IMO souttar nowhere near good enough out of contract and every other one doesn't seem to good enough either.
Our attackers are not better than what we had last year either they are worse IMO.
But what I will say Martin has to go.
03 Oct 2025 12:34:39
Tottaly disagree boy blue, You can see clearly, Aasgaard, Antman have ability Not allowed freedom as attaching threats! Too many times we work the ball to them and the turn and look for the safe option! The strikers are starved we've tried, Dessers, Danny, Miovski and Chermiti up there NONE of them can get into the game because we play through midfield then the ball ends up recycled to the CBs that allows teams to set. This is a tactical issue the CMs rarely play forward to attaching areas or Run beyond. the organisation at the back is beyond ridiculous CBs being asked to act like CMs it doesn't work!
03 Oct 2025 12:39:58
Good post BB. Some of the players are not up to it and haven't been for a while. We can't judge the newer ones yet though IMO as it's too early and Martins system is dreadful. Stewart, Thelwell and Martin OUT ?.
03 Oct 2025 12:42:17
'Saying on the live chat' Jesus mate, your rubbing salt into a sore wound ???.
03 Oct 2025 12:45:02
It's an interesting one BB4.
Coaching / lack of player quality / personal dislikes / pressure of jersey / weight of fan expectation / element of toxic support
I think all of the above play a part. The worry is we just repeat the same errors.
New Manager / rebuild / poor results / sack manager / repeat….
We were told by multiple managers that character was as important as skill in a player and yet this is still the one thing that is clearly missing in our team.
I watched 1st half last night then gave up. Players making stupidly mistakes, scared to get stuck in and show some fight. A total lack of togetherness.
RM must go but I'm not sure if we'll ever get out of this cycle without changes to all of the above.
We've spent good money but it's not evident on the pitch.
Hacked off in Glasgow.
03 Oct 2025 12:56:25
Gassama for me was outstanding when he first came in.
Then Martins restrictive tactics have curtailed him. Even put on the RW and looked a man short.
Has looked better recently in games when Martin has abandoned his footballing philosophy and threw tactics out the window.
I would love to see them all in someone else's side.
But you are correct. I still expect a bit of quality to shine through.
Though we all saw what happened to Raskin when he didn't follow instructions even though he was the best player on the park.
Maybe others are playing within their capabilities as they don't want to upset the manager.
Martin Out.
03 Oct 2025 12:57:59
The players will come good, it's the management that are horrible. RM aside, you look at the other people in the dugout and around the first team, none have the credentials to be there. A new manager, a sigh of relief from the fan base and a few wins and the players will start to perform. Things are really edgy just now, it'll come good.
Last nights pitch was like a farmer field by the end of the match so factor that into critique of players during the second half.
03 Oct 2025 12:58:19
I don't agree . I think too many are being either played out of position or asked to do something that isn't natural to their game . Antman is a right footed winger being played on the right but asked to invert rather go to the bye line à cross with his stronger foot. Rothwell is an 8 but has been played as a 6 with Raskin doing the opposite . Aasgaard ids being played too deep rather than as back up to the striker. Miovski came on last night and played on the wing . This is all down to Martin and I believe we won't know the strengths of our players until someone actually plays them in their strongest position with proper tactics.
03 Oct 2025 12:59:26
I agree bb4, I can't believe we have got ourselves into this mess? How can the new owners not see this? Business men should be able to identify when business is not going right, regardless if they are football men or not.
03 Oct 2025 13:07:23
Repent Dado Repent?? plead to the Eds and profusely apologise??.
03 Oct 2025 13:27:59
R1 when did you clearly see that antman and aasgaard have quality? Antman in 1 game, aasgaard has done absolutely nothing, passes the ball back constantly.
What about chermiti, Fernandes, djiga aarons, Rothwell, meghoma etc, you picked out 2 that have done nothing just like all of them apart from gassa. As I said weird how gassa can shine at times but the rest can't, could you explain why.
My bad dado ? martin out, thelwell out.
03 Oct 2025 13:10:12
Don't agree, under the correct management this squad could win the league this season.
03 Oct 2025 13:51:34
Said for weeks BB, something very wrong among those players, very wrong indeed. Pro players have a certain pride.
03 Oct 2025 13:54:16
Even if you agree that the new signings are rotten and most of them are, its still Martins fault . He ether wanted them or agreed to sign them .
Last night Aasgaard, Antman and Meghoma were terrible plus Aarons, Djiga, Rothwell, Miovski, Moore, Fernandez couldn't even get a start in a very poor team .
Gassama is the only signing that you could say has been successful .
03 Oct 2025 15:11:16
Why anyone thinks bringing in players from Luton Peterborough Blackburn dundee Everton reserves will be able to compete in Europe or win trophies is beyond me. Boyblue I've said for weeks our signings overall are poor.
03 Oct 2025 19:11:09
Blue Aasgaard scored four for Norway, And you prove my point exactly "all he does is pass back" that's not what he does for country or former team and it's exactly what lthe rest of the team does this is clearly an instruction! Martin told us he wants two options off the ball one of which is backward (safe) He wants to retain possession above all else that's why you don't see the best of Aasgaard and why Dios been crap.
The strikers are isolated hence the reason you don't see the best of them again system Miovski scored loads for a bang av Aberdeen team! Dessers scored loads under PC who was slaughtered! The young lad we'll have to see how he develops!
The wingers cut back and pass backward again to retain possession! Antman was top assists in The Dutch top flight last season a dynamic winger now he goes backward! Moore who I've watched more than anyone on here a dynamic winger stifled in the system! Gass is performing occasionally if you can't see they don't have ability then that's worrying!
Defenders pushed up in a high line told to hold the ball to the last second and pass (can hear it on his interview) not what Djiga is or Souttar for that matter are about they are CBs not CMs! Aaron's has to prove him self but starting his Gers as an inverted LB didn't help whose faults that? I'd bet my bottom buck PC would get a tune out of this team! And if we change managers Very soon we can still win the league.