Rangers Banter Archive January 24 2019

24 Jan 2019 20:23:07
Does any other bear agree that going forward
kilmarnock striker eammon brophy would be a good signing for us? He's a completely different kind of striker, to what we currently have at ibrox and big brophy is as strong as a bull! He's capable of giving centre halfs a torrid time. He absolutely rag dolled joe worrall last night. Everytime i've seen brophy playing, he's looked a handful and really good! He's your typical old fashioned type of centre forward!

24 Jan 2019 22:13:17
Worrall is awful so it’s hard to make a judgement on how good he is.

24 Jan 2019 23:53:37
Not good enough for us so it’s a no thanks for me and anyone could’ve ran Worrell ragged last night and most games he plays.

24 Jan 2019 23:56:48
Super cooper is that he 50th player you talk about us singing?

25 Jan 2019 00:38:46
My granny could rag doll Worrall.

25 Jan 2019 03:23:36
I wouldn't say he's different coops, I think he's similar to morelos the way he pulls defenders out of areas, he can hold it up and go in behind the boys quick. I've actually thought of posting the same I was really impressed with him last night.

25 Jan 2019 06:01:06
Jboy21,why the continual sarcasm all the time pal, from you and a good few others? Its an opinion i'm stating that brophy has looked very decent, everytime i've watched him! Why do you not say not for me or something to that nature, instead of trying to question and have a go at a fellow bear continually?

25 Jan 2019 06:30:04
The only reason i mentioned eammon brophy, was because i think we need a different kind of striker, ie. the old fashioned mark hateley, duncan ferguson type, who are terrific in the air. I did post on here weeks ago now, that if big andy carroll was fit and over all his injury problems, he would be a superb signing for us. It would give us so much variation, depending on how a game was going for us, during it!
It gives you the option if you're chasing a game with little time left, you then have a route 1 option,
with a big, imposing, physical presence, in someone like andy carroll! He's unbeatable in the air! I know he's out of contract at west ham in the summer and still only 30.

25 Jan 2019 07:08:11
Carolls wage demands would be way out of our league.

25 Jan 2019 07:13:59
Super cooper Ignore all those people with their sarcastic comments, everyone is entitled to their opinion and you often raise some interesting points for debate.

I agree Brophy did well the other night although until Worrells howler he hadn’t had a look in and worrell was comfortable. The mistake and the goal seemed to galvanise the whole Kili team and our defence looked a bag of nerves for the rest of the game.

I haven’t seen enough of Brophy to know if he would be a good signing for us.

I personally think the days of the big striker like Hatley, Ferguson and Carroll as you mention are a dying bread. Most teams play one up and they tend to be a smaller striker or one who can do multiple roles, think Aquero, Kane, Rashford etc.

25 Jan 2019 07:39:34
Ive posted a few times regarding a good mark hately tyoe of striker. I honestly thought kyly lafferty was going to be like it but oh he has proved me wrong time and time again. This is my point exactly folks! A good strong target man who can head the ball down for dafoe and morelos.

25 Jan 2019 08:06:18
Why have we got to sign every player who has a good game against us? It could be because our defence was so poor that this Killie lad looked good. Barring injuries, this team looks solid:

McGregor; Tavernier, Goldson, Katic, Barisic; McCrorie, Jack, Davis, Kent; Morelos, Defoe

Surely that XI would be good enough to win most games? If Dorrans is fit any time soon, then I'd put him in the team as he can grab goals from midfield.

24 Jan 2019 18:38:32
Don't get the massive negativity last week we were winning the league and two up topwasfhe way to do it! It doesn't work in the 1st game we try it and it's all over we need the wingers back two up top doesn't work! Simple facts are we controlled the game for large parts and the 2 CBs had horror shows it's that simple! Mc Caully is never good enough And Worral when playing with Goldson doesn't need to take the ball so looks a different player! Thought the boy Brophy looked really good great work rate and a cool finish!

24 Jan 2019 22:18:54
Maybe the negativity is down to only winning 4 away games out of 11.

24 Jan 2019 23:55:11
Top post R1 agree 100% some people don’t know what supporter means . they should check out some of the st Mirren or Hamilton supporters and try and show some gratitude for where we are.

25 Jan 2019 00:56:02
Arthur, our away record is better than the league leaders.

St Johnstone have the best away record, who we pumped when they played away to us.

It’s all about perspective. I’m as gutted as anybody we lost against Killie but we have improved on last year and if we give the manager time I think we will continue to improve.

Also, Clarke has lost once against the old firm at Rugby Park. He lost to us in the LC. Too much positivity perhaps.

25 Jan 2019 07:14:10
Bear mode

4 games out of 11 isn’t good enough no matter how you try to dress it up. If you think it’s acceptable that’s up to you. As usual your cherry picking points to suit yourself. We are 3 points behind the league leaders having played a game more. St Johnstone haven’t been to Celtic park yet so let’s see if they keep their great away record up after that game. Beating Kilmarnock in the league cup is irrelevant as we couldn’t get to the final. Clarke may have a good record at home against the old firm but they got pumped at the piggery.

25 Jan 2019 12:05:31
the away form is the reason we WILL not win the league. 7 away games before split. we need to build momentum after the old firm game but hasn't happened. Wont be shocked if we drop more points on sunday on another plastic pitch

unfortunatly the league is probably already over. Celtic away form is reason we are as close as we are to them. however they have 7 home games before split and will probably win them them all.

3 behind, 6 when they win game in hand. we drop more points before split. gutted but its over.

24 Jan 2019 16:10:40
Few things :

1. Playing McAuley against a team with pace like that is ludicrous. After his Yellow he had to be far too cautious before defending Jones goal.

2. Defoe (scored ok great) . Should have came off earlier or change tactics as long balls to a 5ft 5 player is ridiculous. Was like playing with 10 men.

3. Bringing Candeias on at 2-1? Crazy. We needed a runner to press them in their own half and should have been done earlier at 1-1. Morelos/ Defoe weren't doing this remotely enough.

4. Subs are made to change the game - too many routine substitutions at the 70/ 80 minute mark. Don't give Lafferty the odd 10mins and expect him to get a goal.

I've called out Gerrard's tactics on this before and other than the European run / Celtic Game, the results have been poor. We need ideas and I don't believe for a second the management team don't have any but Gerrard calls the shots and keeps failing. I want him to succeed but how many poor results against a top 6 team is that now?

24 Jan 2019 16:25:47
Good post mate.

24 Jan 2019 16:51:52
Agree with a lot of what you say. He has also wasted a lot of money on players like Grezda, Borsic and Lafferty. No point in buying lafferty to hardly put him on. As for McAuley he just can’t run and Worrell is a bombscare.

24 Jan 2019 17:42:23
Why are we giving worrall game time to develop him whenhes not even interested in staying? Develop our own get big katic back in he's better anyway imo.

24 Jan 2019 17:44:14
What or who is at fault. We played Celtic off the park then outplayed by Killie. I know this is going to upset some people but i'm only sharing my thoughts. We obviously want Gerrard to do well, he attracts players etc and yes give him time. But i cannot understand why he is chopping and changing the team, we need a settled team who can play and understand each other. Go back to the start of the season, Katic and Goldson looked promising, they played well together and chipped in with the odd goal. 2 up front for me hasn't been working. Defoe is not going to sit on the bench. I really don't know what Gerrards formation or selection is, this is very frustrating as wee can be hot and cold. I am a fan of Gerrard and obviously want him to succeed.

24 Jan 2019 18:06:07
If this trend continues, and we drop more points away from home, how long before serious questions get asked?
Kilmarnock away in the cup? Are we confident the manager can get it right for this one?
How many free passes can his reputation guarantee him?
Too many mistakes in such a short time. For every positive, there are more negatives. Away results are dire. We should still be in the Europa league but we blew it. A number of the signings have been poor. For every Goldson there is a Worral. For every Kent there is a Siddique. Too many changes. We never have that settled squad look about us. I appreciate player get injured, but dropping form players to fit others in, where is the sense in that?

24 Jan 2019 18:30:46
I agree with most of the above, while some of the poor results are poor decisions on Gerrard part, a good number of those poor results also come from the players he has put his trust in games to get a result and they themselves have not produced. I would say last night is a prime example, our team on paper was much better than Kilmarnock but if they don't produce then you get beat like we did last night, Gerrard put trust in 11 players last night that should have been able to go and win that game and they didn't produce, however the set up was all wrong in any case.

24 Jan 2019 18:43:11
This is becoming a habit away from home poor result after poor result. Same players making the same mistakes. Plenty of possession but no bite. Crying out for a creative midfielder but instead go for 2 over the hill players who are clearly not match fit.

24 Jan 2019 19:01:15
I have only one criticism of SG and it is simple, he does not know what is his best eleven. Once he establishes that, it is the core game in game out, with changes for injury or suspension, and perhaps at Celtic Park or Pittodrie, for tactical reasons.
Stevie G needs to stop being the Rangers Tinkerman.

24 Jan 2019 20:29:59
Agreed, he has to pick his best 11 and go with it, he should have changed it at half time the shape was all wrong. No width meant predictably we were going through the middle which suits Killie, he could have took Defoe off for Candeias and reverted back to 4-3-3 4-5-1 depending on how you look at it, that would have given us width with Kent and Candeias letting Jack and Davis sit and try to control it with Arfield supporting Morelos. That may or may not have worked we will never know but my point is when you see it's not working fix it.

24 Jan 2019 20:59:20
@Goalie yous never played us off the park. End of game stats show posession was near enough even, very lucky mcgregors goal was just offside and yous were playing against a team with no recognised LB and ST. Also Brown and Ntcham had not started together in God knows how many games.

If that is your best team, then good luck because the gap at top is only going to get bigger and bigger in Celtic favour.

A player with a well respected playing career at the very top such as Gerrard, is either very arrogant or inexperienced to mess about with tactics just to fit Defoe and Davies in. I personally believe had it not been for qualifying for Europa group stages, he would not of lasted this long.

24 Jan 2019 23:55:09
Myles I wouldn’t say Stevie keeps failing, . Can’t be right all he time . even Brenda is wrong at times. then again, when he is is the same whipping he gets . west of Scotland mentality I’m afraid.

24 Jan 2019 15:44:11
why change a winning team and formation? too many players thought they just had to turn up, outworked, second to every ball, too many backwards and sideways passes.
It will take a lot of luck and way better performances to win the league - wake up boys before it's too late.

24 Jan 2019 23:57:02
Stevie says if he hadn’t changed it and got a poor result he would have been criticised for being too predictable . which is very true as that was happening pre the 29th dec.

24 Jan 2019 15:35:09
Coops, you just go with paper talk all the time mate! And to be honest, 16 million isn't even anywhere close to what Morelos is worth going by today's market! Rangers should at least be looking at 30 million and i think that's the kinda numbers there looking out for tbh!

24 Jan 2019 16:54:55
Big D

What has Morelos done to deserve that price tag? He hasn’t played in the champions league, isn’t a regular international and hasn’t scored in an old firm game. Think he only scored 1 in the europa league group stages. Do you honestly believe a team will pay £30m for a guy who scores against Dundee, Hamilton and St Johnstone?

24 Jan 2019 17:45:36
Time to be realistic the boy needs to screw the nutt work hard and take his chances then maybe we can talk more money.

24 Jan 2019 13:38:36
why didn't he just put out the same that beat celtic and put on the new guys nearer the end if the game allows.

24 Jan 2019 13:19:11
Remember Celtic also lost 2-1 down there. And we won well there earlier in the season in the LC. It's disappointing but hardly the end of the world.

24 Jan 2019 14:19:11
Seeker

No one is saying it’s the end of the world however surely even you are alarmed at only 4 victories out of 11 away from home in the league unless you think it’s ok?

24 Jan 2019 14:54:18
Rangers have no god given right to win, we all expect them to win because we have better players, but I’m not one for panicking, he’ll ( SG ) get it right? The central defence seems a problem again? I thought he had it worked out with Goldston and Katic but he’s obviously not happy with that pairing? Away form seems a big problem for some reason.

24 Jan 2019 18:52:58
Aethur. Celtic actualky have a wirse away record than us. Hiw do you explain that?

24 Jan 2019 12:53:09
Angry frustrated got a little carried away thought we were 6 points behind. that's a relief. Wait till after Livingston game. Lose it, then he's a failure. Aberdeen, hubs, Killie, livi, all much lesser budgets than us but one thing in common. We can't beat them. Facts don't lie we are 3rd. Improvement this season, jury out but I say no. End of season we could be 5th. Bew manager sure give him time but that's a excuse when he isn't allowed to sign players. End of season he will resign. Are we going to beat Killie in cup? What then another long end of season with nothing to play for. Wake up. Why drop mccrorie? That lot don't deserve to play for Rangers. Support the club but not they imposters.

24 Jan 2019 11:10:50
since we went fown to the bottom division our defence has generally been poor to rotten. this is an ongoing concern and needs sorted asap.

24 Jan 2019 12:25:45
It looked good at start of season, when goldson and katic played together.

24 Jan 2019 09:42:45
Scratching my head this morning Bears. I can’t for the life of me figure out why the manager would completely change the system following our best performance and result of the season. We were immense against Celtic and the cornerstone of that performance was the three in midfield dominating and our wide players running their full backs ragged.

I’ve not said a bad word about Gerrard unlike some but that needs to be explained and I fear he felt all he had to do was find a way to fit the EPL standard players into the side and that’ll be enough. Defoe did nothing bar the tap-in. Absolutely nothing and with the reported investment that’s a real concern.

24 Jan 2019 09:57:34
Agree gallant few from time to time SG shows abit of inexperience. The system should have stayed the same.
On defoe, yes he was quiet last night but again he needs service and he got very little kille sat deep we should have been whipping balls into the box not trying to pass it into net.

24 Jan 2019 11:36:53
I agree 100 % gallant and was going to post something very similar myself before I read your post. I am also very worried about the Defoe thing and primarily the effect he may have on Morelos . I think buffalo loves being the main man and last night I saw glimpses of him not knowing where to go as Defoe was making some of the runs he normally would. I also do not think Defoe worked hard enough off the ball, this may be that he just simply can’t do that shift anymore but I felt for long spells he was a bit of a passenger, which I don’t think we could afford in games like last night. I also think it’s time to reinstate the Katic / Goldson partnership and stick with it, these guys could be our centre half pairing longer term and I think making this clear could have a settling affect on the team as a whole.

24 Jan 2019 13:18:39
The same team that beat Celtic deserved the start last night and Davis n Defoe would have understood that. Players keeping the jersey after playing well needs to be way forward. Did McCrorie deserve to be dropped last night?

24 Jan 2019 15:45:42
Same here Gallant, I'm gutted and angry like all us genuine gers supporters are. Was it Worrall who "BOOTED" the ball back to Shagger later on who had to chest it down hard or it could have been an own goal? . Not sure of that as I was still raging from the earlier howler.

Still insist Stevie will come good when he finally realises Scots game is a completely different kettle of fish to the EPL.

Said it many times, we still need to get behind him and believe we will be top again (maybe not this season tho) .

24 Jan 2019 15:46:52
I became worried when I learned we shipped two goals in a "friendly" at the weekend. See we scored three tho.

24 Jan 2019 09:00:12
Shape has to be 4-3-3 . Mcgregor, tav, goldson, new Centre half, barisic / Halliday.
Midfield of jack, Davis, arfield, Kent, candias - striker morelos / Defoe on rotation
Only way to fit morelos and Defoe in the same team is a 3-5-2 and we don’t have the defenders who can do this.

24 Jan 2019 09:50:56
Defoe and Morelos could play in a flat 4-4-2 (one of the centre mids drop out) or a 4-4-2 diamond (the wingers need to drop out) or like you say a 3-5-2 (again the wingers drop out) I think it’s a case of the wrong players picked last night. Big Katic will make mistakes but he is ours and he will develop and for that reason I’d have him alongside Goldson, it would be different if Worrall was playing well consistently but he isn’t and I also like the fact Katic can bring the ball out and charges forward, teams hate that as it pulls their shape all over the place as they don’t know who should go to challenge. I fully trust he gaffer to sort things out.

24 Jan 2019 08:29:50
Typical rangers fans going way overboard when we beat Celtic then going way overboard when we lose to Kilmarnock (Celtic lost there as well) same when we got Defoe mass hysteria just because of his name because he hasn’t done anything worth while in years. Plus we have to change formation to accommodate him in starting 11. Then people on here and other sights mocking Celtics loan signings well I tell you 1 thing and I hope I’m wrong about it Burke and Weah will probably score more than Defoe. I’m dreading the Scottish cup tie if last night is anything to go by.

24 Jan 2019 09:02:18
Kilmarnock are beatable it’s all about fine margins them and Aberdeen know how to play against us its either been a draw or a win by odd goal against us as I said it’s fine margins mistakes and the one come off post probaly would have won sg has to figure out a way to turn our possession into goals.

24 Jan 2019 12:24:58
It’s easy to play against us when we lack invention and don’t have anyone to break teams down. Crying out for a creative midfielder but went for 2 over the hill players in Davis and Defoe. Dropping of McCrorie was criminal to allow Davis in who is clearly not match fit.

24 Jan 2019 13:12:12
Davis is certainly not over the hill he was no worse than Arfield and jack in midfield.

24 Jan 2019 15:46:35
Yup Stew, if Talbot can beat Ayr, I shudder to think what could happen to us when we play Cowdenbeith wi howlers like Worrall's one.

24 Jan 2019 06:44:00
I posted this here before and got pelters but here goes again. Stevie G is using us as an experiment trying different tactics (? ), formations, personnel and shapes on a weekly basis and I'm sick of it, I'm sorry but he is not the man for the job. Deffoe was a passenger for all but 5 seconds of his time on the pitch where we stubbornly tried to play through a packed defense with no width, it clearly was not working. The team and tactics against the tims was perfect but not for gerrard he just rips it up and starts again. What will the team and shape be for Sunday? Its any ones guess.

24 Jan 2019 08:11:46
Got to agree mate. He ripped up a winning formula so that he could fit in Davis and Defoe. These are 2 players who have hardly kicked a ball in recent months. If he wants to be the tinker man, then this is not the place to be for his experiments. Once again, and it would appear we never learn, we get carried away with one good result.
The stats don't lie! Our away form is shocking and just not good enough to win the league.
I'll probably be accused of being a tim for this post. Bring it on!

24 Jan 2019 08:33:39
Filling the team with players at the higher end of their 30s isn’t the answer. It’s alarming that he dropped a young player who was fantastic against Celtic to accommodate a player who has hardly kicked a ball this season. Another good young player in Katic can’t get a game because a loan player prone to making stupid mistakes is considered better as well as a 39 year old who is finished. Yet another very poor away performance and to only win 4 out of 11 speaks for itself. We are in a battle for a top 4 place never mind for the league.

24 Jan 2019 06:22:25
McGregor 5 tavernier 5,Macaulay 4worrall 2 halliday 5 Davis 4 airfield 5 jack 5 Kent 5 Morelos 5 Defoe 4 sub's Lafferty 2 manager 3 tactics wrong! What happened to its your jersey to lose?