17 Feb 2019 22:43:51
One thing Celtic have and we don't is resilience, they never give up, and neither should we. Yes, we're 8 points behind, but, football can change in an instant. The Team needs to get some belief back, and, dare I say it, start shooting from outside the box, and shoot first time at that, I honestly believe we are dwelling on the ball too long and that's when indecision comes about. C'mon the Gers.
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17 Feb 2019 21:29:55
The problem being in my opinion and it’s a concerning recurring theme. we had 18 attempts on goal yesterday with one on target! . I’m not Carol Vorderman by any stretch of the imagination but do the maths! . we nor any team for that matter will not win a football match with that statistics! .
we are simply not clinical enough. how many times hand on heart this season have you thought against any team “right we are going to put two or three past them today! ” I’ll be honest and say never! . we have shipped too many soft goals that it takes us to score at least twice to get three points! And with the stats we are producing it just doesn’t add up! . okay we drew but unfortunately one point is not enough, especially at home and certainly not enough to be challenging for honours!
17 Feb 2019 20:29:16
The team for Wednesday as follows gk. Wes. Tav. Goodson Worroll Haillday McCrorie couilbally Kent candies kamara if not cup tied Katic lafferty.
17 Feb 2019 20:53:50
12 man team - that might work. 3 centre halves and 3 defensive midfielders. Interesting.
17 Feb 2019 21:08:30
Morelos cert to play his ban didn't take in the replay.
17 Feb 2019 21:13:25
12 players don’t think that’s allowed and katic upfrotn? Have a day off please.
17 Feb 2019 21:24:52
Why would you not play morelos? We have not scored with out him in 2 games? Obviosly he will play.
17 Feb 2019 21:53:12
Wee Alex so u would drop Morelos?
17 Feb 2019 21:55:00
No morelos? Ain't his ban up!
17 Feb 2019 22:34:33
Morelos can play wee Alex. Banned for the Hamilton match.
17 Feb 2019 20:17:40
A said atbthe time we should be trying to build a squad to keep and improve Davis and defoe don't help with this atall it's madness wee need more pace in the side.
17 Feb 2019 21:23:06
You are right we do lack pace 100%.
17 Feb 2019 20:01:18
Aww these people saying how ‘they knew Gerrard was the wrong person’ were probably the wan at the stadium cheering when he was unveiled, its a bad result but it’s no the end of the world, if the players go out an beat Killie 3-0 in the cup nobody would be slating the manager, get behind the team, the need it now more than ever this season, and if we were to sack Gerrard who would replace him?
17 Feb 2019 19:13:40
Just watched Kilmarnock v them and we were saying that's the big difference between the sides we don't turn up we don't win they always find a way and a huge slice of luck a think we have tough cup game but we should aim to secure 2nd and try stop this treble treble.
17 Feb 2019 18:52:30
Let's be honest, when it's your season you get lucky goals like Celtic got today, it always seems to be the way. We need a couple of game changers for next season and it will be even closer. We are getting there. I have a sneaky we will win the Scottish cup this season and by doing it the hard way.
17 Feb 2019 18:27:51
Maybe I have been caught up by the hype of Stevie G but our league campaign has to be to finish second? Every game now is a struggle for us and we don't seem to create chances or dictate play and yesterdays performance was a real reality check for us all! We need to stick with our Manager but my only worry is he will have no cash for descent players as the club is skint and how long will Stevie hang around knowing this!
The Tim's are no great shakes but are well in front us and know how to win 😭🇬🇧.
17 Feb 2019 18:41:03
Agree with everything you say in your post, yately1! Well put together pal!
17 Feb 2019 19:21:19
Stevie spent 2mil on katic = doesn't get a game. 2mil grezda = not good enough. 2mil barasic = jury is still out. God knows how much we are wasting on defoe davis flanagan so before stevie decides to leave yately because the club is skint maybe he should look in the mirror and think about the money he has wasted👍. Gerrard has to accept where he has made mistakes👍.
17 Feb 2019 20:11:29
Coldo, how can you say Grezda isn’t good enough, I agree he’s no set the league on fire but he’s moved to a new country, had to catch up fitnesswise, probably been learning the language and he’s no had a decent run in the team because the manager like to change the team and plays different players, same thing was being said last season about Morelos on here, not by you but others and look at him this season, not every player can be expected to come in and straight away become one of the first names on the team, as much as some folk would hate to admit it the aim would have always been second and a cup, still a real possibility and then next season the league will be ours, Gerrard knows exactly what he's doing, time for the fans to get off his back, get behind him and the team he picks and inside them to be rangers class. 🔴⚪️🔵.
17 Feb 2019 20:23:33
Coldo - what a p*sh post, Katic is a young developing Centre half who will come good . Grezda hasn’t had any luck with injury and I suspect rushed back from original injury. Barisic is quality and again needs a run of games. The manager has delivered a decent squad that has been able to compete at the top of the league - been a while since we were able to say that. Head down - finish 2nd and plan for next season. We have been duped by beating them at new year. Let’s get real .
17 Feb 2019 21:17:27
It might be a pi$h post but its true gers 09, and by the way katic should be playing👍 its stevie that paid 2mil for him and chose not to play him god knows why. So if you pay 2mil for a player who should be playing and is not playing then its waste of 2mil. As for grezda, apart from two goals against 10 men he has been absolute dire. As for barasic being quality, he has yet to out perform halliday. A run of games? They have been here since the summer. By the way I don't want rid of gerrard and have never said that but when its suggested that stevie might walk because of a lack of funds then surely he has to look at the money he has wasted. Is grezda better than murphy and candieas? No. Have davis and defoe been worth the outlay, I don't think so. Flanagan waste of a jersey, worrall tragic, mcauley brutal, koulibaly brutal. Yes we have improved I'm not saying we haven't. I'm chuffed with gerrard and the job he has done. I'm just saying that some of his signings and the money he paid for them are questionable👍.
19 Feb 2019 09:28:51
Not a chance he will hang around, Yately1. If, at the end of the season, we are double points behind them, will he still be here? Can anybody see us getting our act together and closing the gap? Steven Gerrard has only got one team he is emotionally connected to and it's not us! He can come out and wax lyrical all he wants about Rangers - but his heart belongs to Liverpool. This is where his ambitions lie and he is not going to hang around and damage his reputation with home draws against St Johnstone and every other dire result this season.
17 Feb 2019 18:27:09
I hope our lot were watching that today. That is how you win titles by finding a way to win even when you're off the boil. They still have a lot more quality than we do. The bottom line is we have a core of players who aren't good enough to play for rangers.
17 Feb 2019 19:49:27
Saw the last 10 minutes of their game today, the noticeable difference when they attack is that they do it at speed and get bodies in and around the box. Our play lately seems pedestrian by comparison, slow build up, sideways and back passes, no wonder other teams can defend against us, we give them all the time in the world to get back and defend. Surely our management must see this, and I live in hope that they change things to do something about it. Start of the season we seemed to be more " up and at 'em " but not lately.
17 Feb 2019 14:50:43
McKay was our number 10 and we made a c**t of it by selling him for buttons.
17 Feb 2019 15:04:49
He wasn’t consistent enough couldn’t tackle need a better no 10 than him.
17 Feb 2019 15:55:22
A no.10 doesn't need to be a good tackler! The wonderful ian durrant,
paul gascoigne, ronald de boer etc,
weren't terrific tacklers! A no.10's strongest attributes, has to be able to pass the killer ball, through the tightest and stubborn of defences, be able to score goals by being able to run beyond the striker or strikers and score goals themselves! IMO, that is the 3 attributes of a very good no.10!
17 Feb 2019 16:12:49
Not one of those players was a number 10. Gazza played as a traditional centre midfielder, as did Durrant. De Boer started as a centre forward then became a right midfielder.
17 Feb 2019 16:21:57
Would have rather we got a number 10 than the woeful and past it player Davis. Guy contributed nothing and is finished.
17 Feb 2019 16:41:53
Totally disagree with you Theswagman 100%! Each of the players i mentioned could play the no.10 role with ease and did various times! Yes i grant you they could play and did play in other positions also, but my point being they all could play the no.10 role and did at times!
17 Feb 2019 16:43:03
Ok Theswagman name players that are no.10's in your opinion?
17 Feb 2019 17:54:40
Well said wagman, some people don't understand. Mckay was a nobody.
17 Feb 2019 17:57:36
Ye those players could play no 10 and going back to McKay difference with him he use to pull out of challenges and s. t it good player but in end he didn’t want to be here.
17 Feb 2019 18:03:33
Oops rangers have never played with a true ten,
We've had guys who could make a pass i. e. Gazza, luadrup, cannigia.
Only real ten in Scottish footy was moravcic.
17 Feb 2019 18:44:28
I do agree with you Jboy21,that lubo moravcic, was a proper no.10!But my point with the players i mentioned was, that all these players i mentioned, undoubtedly could play the no.10 role, as well as being able to play in other positions!
17 Feb 2019 18:48:14
apart from that didn't mckay want away. he wasnt consistent enough, put one hard tackle against him and his game was done, went into hiding.
17 Feb 2019 19:18:27
McKays attitude is poor and as people have mentioned he is a sh*tebag. Capable of a few decent moments but not somebody i'd turn to regularly. I used to play 5s with him and he wasn't that impressive. He should have been ripping us to shreds but the gap wasn't that great. I know 5s isn't exactly competitive but someone who would eventually end up at rangers should still have been miles better than us.
17 Feb 2019 19:23:18
Mckay is not of required standard, surely this was evident when he tried his hand in the spl👍.
17 Feb 2019 19:33:01
Supercoop, you are very quite on Davis, recall you lobbied for him on here and even expressed disappointment we only have him for an initial 6 month period. Looks 2 yard off the pace.
17 Feb 2019 20:08:38
I totally agree bankie that so far i've been disappointed in stevie davis! He does look a couple of yards off the pace, but i won't cast him aside as a bad signing or finished,
'till he's played a good few more games. Although underwhelmed by his performances so far, we have got to be mindful, that davis has hardly played any football at Southampton for months. I'll reserve judgement on him for now.
17 Feb 2019 20:10:18
For the record bankie, there was a helluva lot of us on here who canvassed for steven davis to be brought back to ibrox, FACT!
17 Feb 2019 21:09:09
Supercoop I really hope you are correct but I fear he is well past his best. He was a naive nostalgic signing, at least we can let him go at end of the season.
17 Feb 2019 13:00:12
Sh## performance yesterday. From what I see is as clear as day that the 2 areas that we seriously need to improve is an attacking mid fielder that can score 15 plus goals and add a similar number of assits per season. Dare I say a windass sort of player. We also need to see a major improvement in our wingers as they are simply not good enough. Kent is a good player but doesn't score enough for me. None of our wingers score enough. The only 2 that I see that could get double figures is young Middleton and Murphy. Murph abv injuried and for me Middleton doesn't get enough game time.
For me Middleton needs to get a run in the team not this 20 min hear 20 mins there.
At the start of the season the boy was flying and full of confidence. But slowly imo that confidence has be taken out of him with miss management.
I don't go in for the Sh## from SG and his management team that we need to protect our young players from burn out ect. For me if they are on fire and good enough to be in the squad then they should start.
SG has done the exact same thing with Katic. On fire dropped lost confidence.
For me our loan signing should be accommodating our signing not the other way about.
So Kent and Worrall return to their clubs and we are left with 2 players low in confidence and that prob know that it doesn't matter how good they are playing that if players are loaned in, in their positions then they will prob lose their place again.
My second point is that at every level of our youth u17,u18 and reserves, they appear to be tearing it up. So many of the young boys are getting praise from top coaches from home and abroad. So surely we must have a couple of boys that could play the attacking mid slot.
As much as I loved Steven Davis and respect what defoe has done in the game. I seriously would have loved to see some of our young players like Hardie or Dallas, Docherty, Kelly given a chance. What chance have these boys got with what SG states a cameo appearances. We need to have more confidence in our youth and give them a chance.
For the past few years we have continually went down the road of buying old pros Barton, Senderos Davis, Defoe and many more it's just not working. Spending fortunes in salaries and getting nothing in return. We need young and hungry players preferably from within our own club.
As much as I hate to say it but you only need to look across the city to that other mob. Who's best three players McGregor KT and Forrest all from their youth set ups that where given the chance. Prob will earn that mob 30million if they sold the three.
17 Feb 2019 13:52:29
Good post agree with everything that is said especially the youth players more should be getting chances they can be no worse than the squad players we have that are wasting a wage.
Come the summer rather than loan players sign first team quality players then back them up with our own young players.
17 Feb 2019 16:37:56
Stewartyblue thanks for a well thought out and thoughtful post. I have been saying this for ages, but unfortunately we never seem to learn. There is no point in bringing up young talented players who then don't get a chance in the first team, and sell them for a pittance to someone else. I WISH TO GOD WE WOULD WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.
17 Feb 2019 16:50:13
Two weeks ago Davis was returning prodigal son and now he's ****. On the point of **** sitting here at Rugby Park and Killie showing Tic like wee boys. We can and should be able to play like that on consistent basis. I agree with use of youth because St Johnstone should be perfect starting point for our boys. They'll probably try harder than that lot yesterday.
17 Feb 2019 12:43:29
Looking for opinion rather than anything else. With us unlikely to sign Kent on a permanent, does anyone think we should maybe go for young Hastie from Motherwell? Jones would play on the left, and I think Hastie could be a long term replacement for the aging Candieas.
17 Feb 2019 12:57:25
Cracking young player, will only get better, there’s no point in bringing in young players if they won’t play though, I’d take a punt on him to become a top player!
17 Feb 2019 13:03:52
With the money we would have to pay i think this could be better spent elsewhere as Middleton and kent have the ruffly the same goals and assists this season plus Murphy and Jones can play there.
The young lad Hastie looks good and should be on our radar but we will need to act fast ask clubs already want him.
17 Feb 2019 13:44:54
Think he is out of contract in the summer.
17 Feb 2019 19:02:10
Instead of looking to sign other teams youngsters let's give our own a chance. Who knows we might have a player as good as Hastie in our youth teams but we won't know till they get a chance.
18 Feb 2019 07:35:15
Correct jaws. We have plenty coming through at all age groups.
Mark Allen said we would not buy if we had youth players who could come through
Guys like Dallas rudden Kelly and rob Mccrorie Houston.
17 Feb 2019 12:04:00
This is not reactionary to one bad game. I have said this all season. I believe we are still 4 QUALITY players away from challenging properly. There are far too many middle of the road players still making our starting 11. Grezda, Middleton, Worrall, Davis, Lafferty, Coulibaly etc. These players are just not good enough.
They are not much better than what Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, Hearts and Hibs have and that's why we are struggling to overcome even them. People go on about us challenging Celtic when the truth is when are just about managing to beat the rest. I don't believe we are as far behind that mhob as they would like us believe though. I hope Stevie is given funds in the summer for Quality not squad players.
17 Feb 2019 13:03:15
We certainly need at least 4, I’ve been disappointed that Katic is out the picture again, he carries a goal threat which Worrall doesn’t and with the league probably beyond us now I’d rather get him in the team and develop him some more, we need to know if he is good enough or not and he just hasn’t had the game time to judge. Totally agree that we need quality not quantity this summer though.
17 Feb 2019 16:25:53
Stevies_army
I would add Candeias and Barisic to your list too. Candeias is a journeyman player who isn’t good enough to challenge them and Barisic is woeful. Sadly his best performance at Ibrox was for Osijek.
17 Feb 2019 12:07:24
Gerrard saying we have no leaders well that's not true, he's the bloody leader and what HE says goes that was a disgrace yesterday with the lack of leadership obvious HIS leadership.
17 Feb 2019 17:11:01
Totally agree Jyf. He has hung the players out with that statement and that is not on! He brought in Davis and a number of the empty shirts on the park yesterday and he must shoulder the blame. He picked the team, chose the formation, and instructed them to play the way he wanted them to. Is Steven Gerrard's skin so thin that he can't hold his hands up and admit he got it wrong?
I could be wrong, but is our manager beginning to think this might not be for him and the cracks are appearing by coming out and slating the players like that in the press? If things continue like this, do we really think he will hang around? Brand Gerrard has bigger ambitions than managing us. If there is any risk of this taking a battering, he will be off.
17 Feb 2019 17:20:46
Jyf
I think he said there were no leaders out on the pitch.
17 Feb 2019 18:12:18
He signed 18 players and moans about no leaders 😂 Who’s fault is that exactly!
17 Feb 2019 18:45:07
When did he discover this then Arthur d? That was shambolic yesterday for the whole game and He should have done something about it and didn't (couldn't? ) Tav is not a leader but that didn't just come to light yesterday and by saying what he did he is highlighting his own deficiances.
17 Feb 2019 11:51:46
Coming away from ibrox yesterday, I like many were saying the desperate need for a no.10,
who can constantly get beyond our striker or strikers, whichever the case may be. A
midfielder who can pass through the lines, to break the most stubborn/ tightest of defences down. I did say a wee while back that we should have brought in ravel morrison on a loan deal, 'till the end of the season! What was there to lose by bringing a class midfielder like him in short-term? What a footballer this guy is, if you can get his head right! Gerrard and morrison did admit, talks did take place.
He is exactly the type of midfielder we're looking for and should have been a priority signing in january! We've got too many midfielders who are similar. Graham dorrans or jamie murphy both can play that attacking no.10 role, but unfortunately both are injured and i really doubt doza will come back from his injury! Hearing he's had yet another set back, to his knee injury!
17 Feb 2019 14:42:08
According to many on here Coop, Davis was that no 10 we needed and what a disappointment he's been. Still don't think Ravel is the answer, if Fergie can't control him, I doubt SG can.
17 Feb 2019 15:21:44
A lot of pundits/ supporters etc said the exact same when walter smith signed paul gascoigne from lazio mate! Sir walter managed gazza superbly and got some of his best years, playing in a rangers jersey.
You've got to remember, sir alex ferguson let ravel morrison go a good few years ago now, when he was a lot younger. I personally think its a risk worth taking with morrison! If he came to rangers with the correct attitude and got his head down,
worked hard for gerrard and let his football do the talking, he would rip scottish football apart! Yes, he's that talented and every high profile managers and former players say how talented a midfielder, this guy is! A loan deal originally. what's to lose here! If it worked out, my god what a player we would have, at our disposal!
17 Feb 2019 16:14:59
More space cadet stuff from Super. Morrison has had to go on loan to Sweden to get a game and is now in his mid 20s having wasted his career. That's our saviour? Get a grip.
Also, can you please learn to use punctuation? Your comments are 90% commas, gives me a migraine trying to read them.
17 Feb 2019 16:27:35
Supercooper
Massive gamble to take on Morrison however rather him than Davis who is done.
17 Feb 2019 10:32:35
Poor result v St Johnstone, but why does S.G. keep tinkering with the team?
Admittedly we had suspensions namely Morelos and McGregor but we had no Arfield and Jack who I can only presume were injured.
Kamara had a good game but we have to question the loan signings of Davis and Defoe. They say we are not a one man team, but we rely so much on Morelos. We move on to the next game but we cannot start Defoe in a 4-3-3 formation. Our best starting 11 is the team that started v Celtic.
17 Feb 2019 11:20:16
What no one has said is credit to St Johnstone who played very well, organised at the back and very hard to play against. Tommy Wright got it totally right with his team. We will recover from this poor result and put some good performances in, but it just isn't going to be our year, we are not there by a fair bit, work in progress.
17 Feb 2019 15:08:45
We should be beating st Johnstone at home organised or not . I think most people gutted we never won we hardlygoing to praise them because that’s the league gone.
17 Feb 2019 16:29:53
Tbh St Johnstone probably feel more aggrieved than is about the result yesterday. They created the better chances and were unlucky with the shot that hit the bar. I could have played in goal yesterday for them. Cammy Bell has one of the easiest shifts at Ibrox yesterday. He had more to do when we played in league 1.
17 Feb 2019 09:29:35
Don't know what's happened with barisic looks short on confidence. We signed him for a lot of money based on his performances against us but I'm now thinking was he really that good after all look who he was up against. Mr candeias! Enough said.
17 Feb 2019 09:13:30
Am i missing something, mega 3 points for taking, rest jack and arfield, put davis in team, keep coulibally on bench, then say wants him long term, probably 4million!
17 Feb 2019 10:14:47
Jack and arfield are injured.
17 Feb 2019 09:06:50
Tav and Candeias are limited and are holding the team back with poor final balls into the danger area and starving service to the front players.
Both never win headers in any game either.
Their goal count from open play is poor and we need better players chipping in with goals.
Until they move on and are replaced with better quality we will keep treading water.
17 Feb 2019 10:30:33
Candeias is terrible! He runs about like a headless chicken all day and can't cross a ball. Tav has to be one of the most frustrating players we have! At times his final ball into the opponents area can be perfect and he drives the team forward. However, the majority of the time his final ball is useless and ends up hitting the first defender or being overhit.
17 Feb 2019 10:31:31
got a agree with Candelias but with regards to Tavernier if we take him out the team then who is going to make assists cause the rest team are seriously lacking in this department.
He ain't best defending but going the other way he is really important
with his assists a lot more players need replacing before him.
17 Feb 2019 12:00:09
Agreed Craig. Although he is frustrating, and his defending is poor, he does offer us something going forward. The team looks pedestrian enough going forward as it is, so I dread to think what it would be like without him.
For me the main problem is there for everyone to see. Without Morelos we are 1 dimensional. The wee man is the team in the final third of the park. I can't believe some on here wanted him sold in January? It's clearly evident where we are without him.
And before anyone starts about how useless he is when he's banned, forget it. He's still going to be the league's top scorer! He's still going to be the best player in the league! Try changing him and you might not like what we end up with.
17 Feb 2019 12:49:09
slk73 Your spot on with Morelos he is really important to our team. There was folk saying we should give Defoe a chance a head of morelos and Morelos should be left to sweat over his place in the team
Well i think the last two games have put a end to that notion and Morelos must start every game he is available for.
Our Scouts better be hard at work because we are going have to find some striker to replace Morelos.
17 Feb 2019 14:25:59
Tav’s goal count from open play is poor? He is right back 🙈give me strength.
17 Feb 2019 15:25:18
Correct craigs8688! Morelos is going to be near impossible to replace,
especially given the fact that we would need to spend a helluva lot of dough, to replace him! But our scouts surely to god, have to be looking NOW, at a replacement for morelos, because IMO he'll be sold in the summer!
17 Feb 2019 08:29:38
going forward into the summer transfer window do fellow fans agree that major work is still required on the squad.
We have a total of 5 loan players who i would let return to there clubs.
Then we have the the fringe players or injured players who should be released
Mcauley Wallace Fodringham Rossiter Holt Dodoo Hardie Alnwick Hodson Herrera Flanagan Dorrans.
That is a total of 17 players and you could say candelias and laffertty don't contribute much either and i also think we need more from jack going forward needs to add assists and goals to his game.
If not i would play mccorie or kamara in that role.
and there will no doubt be bids for morelos.
So there could be potentially 21 players that need to be replaced to move the club forward.
17 Feb 2019 11:55:15
Ryan jack is the best defensive mid we've got IMO, craigs8688!He if available and fit, plays every week for me!
17 Feb 2019 12:36:31
coops i agree but for me we need to add more assists and goals to our team and i feel going forward kamara or mccorie could offer this that's why i would pick them ahead jack.
But if we can get quality around jack to provide the assists and goals from midfield i would play jack.
We just seem to lack energy and directness from our midfield and strikers no one has a pop from distance or goes past players they just hand responsibility to tav Kent morelos
For me Docherty has to be in our first team on his return.
17 Feb 2019 15:39:07
Jacks no pace. The future is McCrorie. If you play a CDM it’s him. He has pace which is needed in there. Build for the future.
17 Feb 2019 07:58:32
I think the result yesterday all but ends the title race. If we can’t dispatch St Johnston At Ibrox it tells you that it’s not going to happen
That said SG is doing a decent job and will hopefully get us to the promised land before
It’s 10
Perhaps a cup win would be realistic this season and build again for next year.
I think the Aberdeen MF Shinnie would have been a better use of or cash in January
Onwards and upwards.
17 Feb 2019 10:58:57
Would agree Shinnie would give us some dig and drive in midfield. He would also be the best left back at the club. He is out of contract and would be a great addition for next season for no fee unlike the multi millions we have wasted over the last 2 years on certain players.
17 Feb 2019 00:14:17
Sorry to be negative but was has happened to Steve Davis he looks absolute terrible and a actually fear that age has caught him and defoe defoe be ok off the bench as impact player but think if we get injury to Alfredo then we are in real dangerous use think.
17 Feb 2019 15:42:38
Smallpea Davis is done. I still can’t understand why we brought him in. A creative spark allegedly 👀😂.