Rangers Banter Archive May 13 2020
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13 May 2020 22:52:45
Blue blue sea. So if someone comes on and doesn't toe the party line they are a tim or previous banned.
I'm of the opinion that instead of fighting with the SPFL and going along with our board.
We as fans should be asking more searching questions of our manager and if he is the man to lead us and questions of the board regarding wasting time and money on a futile and embarrassing dossier that was never a smoking gun.
But oh I have a different outlook and opinion from others so that's cast aside.
14 May 2020 07:46:52
considering that's your opinion … yeah ok.
14 May 2020 05:41:24
You are definitely swagman.
14 May 2020 09:46:55
cheeky1,i don't know if you are a tim or not i don't agree with your post which is my perogative, but i will tell you the agree buttons on it were hit by tims.
14 May 2020 09:50:00
Remember smoking gun was a press headline at no time did rangers say we have a smoking gun never
So you obviously think SPFL are doing good job? Can you expand on that? Can you explain how their actions are acceptable in terms of governance? even they say lessons learned
The embarrassing part you mention, 31% of the members didn’t agree it was embarrassing only one mouth piece from we know where said it’s embarrassing?
As for manger we know your opinions from before so pointless looking for objectivity
No doubt he’s made mistakes and we were woeful after break
But as far as our club is concerned I’m forever in their debt for at least having bottle to go after this shambles they run our game.
14 May 2020 10:56:33
Everysaturday that’s who it was was driving me mad!
Swagman welcome back 😱😱😱.
14 May 2020 11:36:46
Cheeky
Generally I agree with you whether you are a Celtic fan or not.
We have the right and were correct to take the challenge to the SPFL on the basis it is the correct thing to do. I believe that going all in as we did was a mistake because we do not carry the strength and influence we once did and are still in recovery from our demise in 2012. This is a further step along that path. Although we have now highlighted the problems, I suspect we will lose further influence at the SPFL AGM in July when the new SPFL board is voted on. Can’t see Stewart Robertson being voted back on.
You are also right that this conveniently covers up how poor we were from January onwards. Things had definitely improved the first half of the season and whether Celtic are a good side or not we were just about keeping up. Bottom line for me is that we are short of the máin ingredient to win the league which is a team with winners in it. This takes finance as these players cost to buy and are paid more. I don’t hold SG to account for this as he can only operate with the budget he has which we all know is limited. By his own admission he has been shocked by the lack of winning mentality since Xmas
All of this means that until we fully recover financially and regain our influence fully within the football institutions and other clubs we will continue to be on the back foot.
All we can do is continue to support the team (on and off the park) until we are there. This will be expensive and needs us all to stay the course.
14 May 2020 16:44:27
Welcome back Mols not seen you for ages 👍.
14 May 2020 17:49:41
He was also Rubes12.
15 May 2020 07:36:32
Thanks Molsgoals . Account seemed locked for ages but now cleared.
EverySaturday I have never had any other username.
15 May 2020 13:03:15
No you mate. Swagman.
13 May 2020 20:58:16
Hi all long time reader
I've red with interest all your comments regarding the SPFL and the vote against.
Just because other clubs don't agree with The Rangers doesn't mean they are all wrong and we're right. Everyone has a right to their opinion and vote how they so wish without reproach.
I wonder how many of us on here would actually be crying, shouting about wrong doing and corruption, shouting for change if it was Celtic who put forward the motion.
Think about it.
Or would we be making a mockery of it and them. Laughing at their expense at their failed attempt to get the season null and void?
All this talk about boycotting away grounds. This is all pie eye in the sky stuff. You know this isn't going to happen. Load of crap.
Instead of fighting the SPFL maybe we should be putting all our energy into our own team. The fact that we were so bad after the winter break. The fact that Gerrard isn't the man to lead us and break Celtic dominance. Concentrate on bring better quality to the club.
Let's face it, if the season was to continue as it was and Celtic where to win the league by a larger margin Gerrard would probably have walked which I don't think would have been that bad.
Instead of picking fights with the SPFL and every other team. Let's start asking questions of our own team and their failings this season.
13 May 2020 21:31:41
Welcome aboard. Bit of a waste of a first post mind.
13 May 2020 21:35:25
I get distinct impression reading your rhetoric that you were a long time poster that got banned very very similar vocabulary and theme running thru every post every time and now you’re cheeky1?
Either that or another timposter.
13 May 2020 21:37:41
Let's think about the rangers. They have a board, trainers, coaches and professional staff. They'll be ok. Not puttin money in rivals teams, means less budget for them, i. e worse players. Better for us. More problems for them. Stuff them. One year of rangers boycotting away games will crush the weak willed. Does everyone forget they all tried to make us non existent? Third division. They all voted us out bar one. Boycot and tighten the noose. Make them suffer and then beg for the mighty rangers fans to come back and spend their hard earned cash in their cowardly spineless stadiums. My money won't go to the cowards. Aberdeen, hearts, Stranraer. They might see some of my cash. The rest can get stuffed.
13 May 2020 22:34:40
Cheeky 1 - I totally agree with you.
Not a chance in hell would anyone of us accept the season being null and void if we were 13 points ahead with a game in hand - let's be totally honest.
I think the board are in part deflecting our attention from our failings on the park. Now instead of asking serious questions of our manager, our players, our approach for next season and how we ensure success we are all venting our frustration at the SPFL. We are being manipulated.
13 May 2020 23:19:28
We won't win this fight against the SPFL, let's not waste any more time, effort and expense on this. To be honest, I'm getting a bit bored reading about this. Let's have some good / positive news to read about. Maybe player budget, new players, new strip supplier etc. Let's just forget and move on.
13 May 2020 23:22:24
Smiley, we’re being manipulated are we? Get a grip man not everyone is so easily bemused, we are all very aware of the failings of the team and management since the turn of the year but these are two interlay different things. I would say if you think the SPFL have no case to answer and the that we are using all this it as deflection tactics then you have been manipulated by red top rags and useless journalism. The only teams that stood to gain from ending the season early were the clubs top of each devision. that's 4 teams out of 42 how can this even be comprehended? Without a fair and proper vote where every team is given all the possible eventualities in writing and a suitable amount of time to give their vote without intimidation or threat of financial ruin, none of witch were given to member clubs by the pathetic excuse of a governing body? Rangers football club demands to know why! And I for one support them through thick or thin on the football pitch in the media or even the court room 👨⚖️.
14 May 2020 00:16:43
To those who say get rid of the manager I would ask who would replace him. Mention one or two possibilities who could come in and win the league. You may say Gerrard won't but in my opinion he is our best bet. I think we should concentrate our resources on the team and not on legal fees like we did with Ashley.
It will be difficult to champion Celtic until Liewell departs from the scene. He has the SPFL tied up as he put all the main players I to the positions they hold and it is similar at the SFA. Having stamped his authority on the local scene he has moved on to UEFA.
14 May 2020 01:02:53
Good post highland 👍
Cheeky don’t think I’m buying it buzz bomb 🤪.
14 May 2020 02:26:05
It will be difficult to champion Celtic until Liewell departs from the scene
Here a novel idea do it on the park like we did in December. Liewell doesn't score last minute winners for them, he doesn't pop up in the 89 min to clear a header off the line. It's the players and in the last 2 season pre x-mas we looked the part, then for some reason the wheels came off. Get the playing side going/ winning, let's do our talking on the park. Don't let's go down their paranoid ways. We need to move on or the will eat away the whole club. Let stay together (better together) and united and do it on the park like we have 54 times before.
14 May 2020 07:41:36
We're you on the holy water when you posted that cheeky?
14 May 2020 07:44:59
You could say celtic did call the motion. Khubla Khan himself!
14 May 2020 07:42:48
Cheeky ain't buzz cheeky can't spell he says I red instead of I read buzz can spell any word in the dictionary he would never get a simple word like read wrong unless he done it deliberately to hide his identity and put us off the scent, you are a cheeky one Buzz.
13 May 2020 18:42:15
4th round scottish cup hamilton v rangers give us 500 tickets. 5th round hibs v rangers give us 500 tickets. Semi final rangers v celtic give us 500 tickets. REALLY.
14 May 2020 07:34:30
I agree. We know it would hurt the other teams but would it also take something away from our own team at away games. I know the SPFL are corrupt and inept however, they aren’t the reason we were 13 points behind them when the season stopped.
The harsh reality is that we were utter gash when we came off the winter break and threw away an excellent advantage! That wasn’t the SPFL or any referee’s doing. We need a better calibre of player and stronger mentality. The best way to shut them all up is to go out there and win the league next season.
14 May 2020 07:45:55
The cup is different.
14 May 2020 07:47:09
Fauldhouse bear, exactly, take none. mate.
13 May 2020 17:39:26
Isn't it funny how certain clubs that voted 'no' yesterday are still suggesting all is not right with SPFL. Self preservation has well and truly taken over and if Premiership clubs, in particular, still harbour doubts but chose not to act then hell mend them.
I get it with clubs in the lower leagues voting for survival but, the 'cabal' in the Premiership have thrown at least some of them to the wolves. How much of any sponsorship or TV money (if there is any) will filter down the leagues next season? I wonder how the cabal will react if SKY or BT seek to recover money.
It's just a pity there will be plenty of excuses now for maintaining plastic pitches due to the virus. How is that improving the product!
14 May 2020 07:43:07
Hearsvoices, i can't see anybody sponsoring the league, as most people can see the hastle being caused up hear, by the cheating cabel running the leagues, either that or we will get a paddy power type sponsor offering a pittance because they know nobody is interested in sponsoring this mess of an organisation.
14 May 2020 09:58:34
paulellen, that would make a great league the paddy power magners league, think the irish would join and make it a good old shindig league, old paddy power would say if you finish second to the mhanks you would get your money back.
13 May 2020 15:59:05
I don't think boycotting away games is a good idea. We must rise above that. Our teams will lack support and the fans who enjoy these days out will miss the atmosphere. We are all very annoyed and bitter right now with good cause. Nobody else in Scotland has given a flying **** since we were unceremoniously dumped into the lowest tier of professional football. Nobody saw this the virus crisis coming. I still maintain declaring the season null and void is the only fair thing to do but if this had't happened, the likelihood is that although further progress has been made by SG, we would have missed out on silverware again. Starting from scratch later this year for a new season (writing off this one) is the best option and then we'll see. Follow, Follow is our mantra. Don't forget that Bears, whether it be Dundee, Hamilton, Celtic or the ******!
13 May 2020 16:21:39
Agree doiger. We are desperate for any sort of silverware. Need backing at away games to do such a thing. Going to places like aberdeen hibs tims and hearts etc all hard enough at the best of times. Folk even wanting to pull out the cups in comical. Cutting off the nose to spite the face comes to mind.
13 May 2020 17:40:57
I respect your opinion but boycott for me before hopefully moving to another league. Had enough of their influence and underhand dealings. No more.
13 May 2020 18:19:30
What league are we going to move too england won’t have us your dreaming . boycott not the answer stopping them doing ten in a row is that would hurt them and few other clubs more . moving to another league us just all wind and p. s.
13 May 2020 21:47:29
Doiger. The league is going to them. 100%. It's already done. Miss the atmosphere. Where are you talkin about. The windy wet mighty st mirren park where we take over? Hamilton, where we take up half the place. Etc. Etc Nope. I've replied before on another post and say the same. Make them suffer and beg our fans to return. A year of no RFC fans in their weak willed stadiums might make them appreciate our money a bit more. They need us more than we need them. They'll laugh and happily take our money when we go to their stadiums. Support the gers by boycott. A vote please ed and once it's voted for we can't come back and change it. Unless your from Dundee. Boycott. Yes or no? Yes.
13 May 2020 22:18:05
Livi 3 sides Of the ground Rangers fans
Pull back, fill 1 stand only and tell them all to fekoff except those that had the balls to stand up.
13 May 2020 23:33:26
What league are we going to move to or even be accepted/ invited in to? Dreamland. Never going to happen.
14 May 2020 01:19:14
Rangers were out of the top league for 4 years, not 1 team went to the wall, why do u want to rob your own team of support for 0 gain.
16 May 2020 11:22:02
Dundee utd, suffered pretty bad, so did hibs, hearts, dundee, ye the never missed the blue pound, don't kid yourself, mate.
13 May 2020 15:48:17
I live up north and up until yesterday had a lot of time and respect for Roy MacGregor and what he's done for Ross County but that has gone out the window following his capitulation to corruption. Actually it isn't capitulation it's support for corruption and I cannot forgive or forget that. hence my heartfelt support for a 100% boycott of away games with clubs like County who voted against an inquiry. I'd rather donate to Rangers Charities and support those looking for a helping hand.
13 May 2020 16:09:03
Ferintosh, i'm beginning to think that because we are Rangers - No one does in fact like us - but do we care ? Look out for next season, keep an eye on the referees we get etc etc.
14 May 2020 11:53:57
Democracy= majority rule the majority have spoken if you can`t abide by the rules you must want a dictatorship with just the views of Rangers heard . so much for the good of the game sounds more like the good of Rangers.
16 May 2020 11:23:27
Sporting integ, its as good as a dictatorship, right now, smallish clubs saying nowt, as long as they get there handouts, why won't this nothing to see hear mob, let people see that for themselfs, and really embarrass rangers, mate,
13 May 2020 13:18:09
our away fan base look forward to going on their wee Saturday day trips to Aberdeen etc entering their towns and cities and celebrating the fact we support a great club and letting their fans know it is part of the game boycott is not the answer winning trophies is the answer --that's how you stick it up them don't get mad, be successful comes to mind.
13 May 2020 14:01:41
How does us filling their coffers help? do you honestly think st Johnstone, Kilmarnock and the rest care if we win trophies all they really care about as the recent votes prove is cash and self preservation
The blue pound supplies that
Totally understand your post but think it’s obvious the masses will not in anyway regardless of wrong doing back us
It’s up to us to force change I’m afraid but each fan to their own it’s a personal choice 👍👍👍.
13 May 2020 15:02:45
Those supporters who continue to fund those that hate us by going to away games are just backing Doncaster and therefore will be seen to believe every word he's said. Many will see it as surrender. There is an obvious follow on from that!
13 May 2020 15:13:50
Deecee have i mist something when did we last win a trophy and when does it look like well win our trophy to ram it up any team and celebrate in there towns not with current team i'm afraid.
13 May 2020 15:26:01
I was pertaining to future tense dsg not past or present for that matter maybe you live in the past I dont.
13 May 2020 17:30:01
Guys, you will have seen from my previous posts that I support a boycott. Only take 1,000 tickets for away games, our team will here us as 1,000 of us enough to out sing any home support. They have shown a complete hatred of us, how can other clubs support a man in McLellan when he stated he loathes and hates Rangers. How can they say that it’s right to allow for that to happen for him to be in charge no duty of care to a member club. it’s a disgrace so hit them the only way to make them suffer in their pockets. Trophies will come as we will improve as a team.
As for Doncaster and the fat lawyer, they will fall and will anyone ever see the Dundee prat again.
13 May 2020 17:37:22
The boycott brigade forget the premier clubs were without our cash for years. They learn to adapt. Yes it would hurt them but it would hurt us on the park even more.
13 May 2020 17:41:34
I see you're back with your usual positive spin ds 👍.
13 May 2020 21:39:48
Being one of the “boycott brigade” only reason they survived without our money last time was they knew! It was happening and budgeted according to that
Now, different story Projected figures and income based on us visiting Along with Tim’s see how they cope without our financial input.
14 May 2020 07:43:49
Boycott then mate but for every away seat boycotted, there will be thousands of bears prepared to take that seat up to support our club.
16 May 2020 11:23:54
C of ibrox, maybe aye, maybe naw, but one thing for sure this wee guy won't be going to any away games, unless its a cup game, played at neutral ground, or semi or final,
13 May 2020 09:33:27
I'm now falling into the boycott camp, not total take maybe 500 enough of a noise to let troops know we're there. I know some say "it didn't hurt them when we were down the divisions" difference being clubs knew we weren't going to be there and budgeted accordingly for that, however now a lot of balance sheets will be based in a large part of our fans and mhank fans going to these grounds So let's cut the head off the snake 🐍 let's see how the SPFL handles the fallout of financial hardship to their members remember it's a members association!?
And if there's a cull of the weak so be it, you reap what you sow because never forget 75% of members think SPFL are beyond investigation and are doing a good job.
13 May 2020 11:46:59
500 is still too much, otherwise agreed.
13 May 2020 11:53:05
Big Blue Sea I agree with you. The team needs fan support. 500 max As the song goes Follow Follow we will Follow Rangers Everywhere Anywhere we will Follow on. 🏴🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.
13 May 2020 08:24:29
As rangers fans we should boycott all away games plain and simple hit these cowardly club where it hurts, their pockets.
13 May 2020 12:40:50
Is it rational to be angry whenever anyone, in football or life, doesn't see things as you do?
Are the SPFL doing a good job - looking at the state of Scottish football at this time you would have to say, no. I'm sure all 42 clubs would agree on that.
Is now the right time to divert attention from trying to save clubs from going under - you can argue that it isn't and you have to respect that many clubs want to keep the focus on the bigger issues facing Scottish football.
13 May 2020 13:07:48
Couldn't give a rat's ass if half the cowardly bunch go under mate if I'm honest.
13 May 2020 17:28:06
Definitely. I've been saying it for years. And give visiting teams to Ibrox as little as possible. We should question every decision that corrupt lot make and not let them away with coughing the wrong way. It"s now time for drastic action.
13 May 2020 18:38:43
Ah of course - we should question and criticise everything, act hostile towards visitors, show zero empathy and acknowledge none of our mistakes . the hidden chapter in How to Make Friends and Influence People.
13 May 2020 19:26:12
And the alternative is to keep funding the same who hold us in such disregard? Respect is earned and those little backwater teams need us a hell of a lot more than we need them.
16 May 2020 11:30:07
Smiley, are you another guy that starts posting, and within one day, you are telling us all where we are all going wrong, buzz in disguise, or one of that crew eh, mate. where is sweep, pal,?
13 May 2020 07:28:26
Have all season ticket renewals been sent out?
I haven't received anything and no reply at ticket office.
13 May 2020 09:58:47
I think so. I received the ST renewal on 1st May. I renewed last week.
13 May 2020 10:39:43
DEEB, all done online now and you should have received email ✌️🇬🇧.
13 May 2020 11:20:43
Deep, Checking junk mail.
16 May 2020 11:24:05
John25, aye, beauty mate, its probably there eh, mate, lol, lol.
12 May 2020 23:50:46
Understandable the smaller clubs don't want to rock the boat, if 13 clubs have raised concerns that's exactly what is alarming even if there were 100 clubs. 13 clubs is a major vote of no confidence. Why not avail of the free investigation, if I had nothing to hide I would welcome it if only to throw egg In someone's face. Sooner or later all clubs will be covered in the brown stuff with the current board.
13 May 2020 16:21:24
I don't have to like, but I can understand any club looking after their own best interests. Let's be honest guys, we are looking after our own best interests also, so how can we be angry at other clubs doing the same?
I think we need to be smarter, we are on here saying 'boycott away stadiums', 'don't give them money', 'let them sink', 'corrupt', 'cowards' then on the flip side wondering why we aren't liked or respected? If that is how someone spoke about me i'd want to punch them in the gut every time I got the chance. Let's lose the chip on the shoulder, we should be keeping our mouths shut, getting our own sh** together and doing our talking on the park!
13 May 2020 17:23:12
seriously. which organization requires 75% support to fire an employee. the red flag was always there. if they can't see that maybe they deserve to go.
13 May 2020 18:29:24
Yesterday was not about firing an employee, it was about whether or not effort was to be expended in investigating the SPFL for corruption, dereliction of duty and bullying. I mean it's annoying that someone takes home a salary such as his and then handles this so badly, he comes across incompetent and I personally would love to see someone of sound business acumen revolutionise Scottish football. That being said, we had zero evidence of corruption and bullying, if stupidity was a crime then half this forum would be behind bars.
I'd like to have seen Rangers pick a more opportune time to push for fundamental change. Right now the train is careering off the tracks and we are asking people to debate the competency of the driver.
12 May 2020 22:48:58
Hi guys first time poster long time reader. Just an idea if we bears start to cancel sky sports subscriptions and let sky know why maybe they will pressure the sp smell board into an independent investigation?
13 May 2020 17:22:43
I've already cancelled sky and bt subs anyway. What's the point when there is zero live sport. To be fair sky have left their channels live. BT, on the other hand, are demanding payment is made right away. Aye right!
13 May 2020 17:24:40
I actually think that's a good idea but without concerted effort maybe very hard to bring off.
12 May 2020 22:47:19
Does anyone know when details of the new strip will be released. The shop selling off most Hummel gear off cheap now.
13 May 2020 09:03:37
I wouldn't buy any of our hummel gear now mate. I wouldn't purchase anything else from hummel/ elite as our club is owed £2.8million from them, which is still unpaid and will be fought for in a legal case. For anyone buying any of our about to be former kit makers hummel rangers merchandise now, ask yourself this,
where is my money going? I would doubt the rangers shop at trongate in glasgow and the one in belfast won't be able to sell/ stock the new castore rangers kits, as its i believe tied in with the elite/ hummel deal. Our new castore merchandise will be coming back in house at the stadium megastore and new stores will be opening in glasgow and other places which will be sold by castore and our new retail partner! Also our new gear will be on our new online rangers store again in house, so the club has FULL control of the sales, with the money going directly to our club! 👍👌.