Rangers Banter Archive October 22 2017
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22 Oct 2017 22:17:24
I don't even no where to begin such was the abysmal displays from the imposters in a Rangers Jersey! Pena and windass are shameful. dorrans isn't doing enough either. where is the dig in this team? The will to win? There's no souness gough or Ferguson to give out rollockings to under performers. alves as well ain't exactly a standout. too many players are substandard! As for Pedro. I truly don't not again where to start! Gutted.
22 Oct 2017 23:01:10
GUtted also royal blue I feel the boy Mcrorie was the only one who could pass the ball on ground and I also think he’s probably better than Cordoso
23 Oct 2017 08:25:26
Yes blue drama I agree the young lad mccrorie is a better player than Cardoso and is very comfortable on the ball and is an impressive passer of the ball a lot of his senior team mates could learn from him
23 Oct 2017 19:07:13
Agreed 're mccrorie bears. however this whole team needs 30 minutes locked in the dressing room wi bomber brown gough etc etc until they finally grasp what it means to play for that famous blue jersey! And if they don't get it they can play for the developmemt team until their contract expires. shameful don't even cut it. agree wi a few others. give hardie a chance upfront wi morelos. and play a 442.
24 Oct 2017 10:51:39
I hate to single out 2 player but Pena is shocking and if Pedro continues to stick by him he'll be out the door for Santa coming
22 Oct 2017 21:30:33
I have been to every game this season and I am always someone who gives the benefit of the doubt but having watched Ryan Jacks performances this season I have come to the conclusion that he is a massive issue for our team. I know that most will disagree with this but if you analyse the way we play with him in the team he plays far too deep. This is inviting opposition midfield to push on and pressurise our suspect defence. At first I thought the issue lay with Pedro asking Jack to stay as deep but from watching Jack play it is clear he wants to retreat all all costs. Rossiter would be a brilliant replacement but just can't stay fit. At least Rossiter pressurises the opposition and is touch tight. I would even play Holt ahead of Jack as he has much more energy.
22 Oct 2017 21:51:44
I said the same thing think the balance of the team looked much better with holt in there. can't understand why if it was are best performance of the season last week why you would not stick with the exact same team why change anyone or anything.
22 Oct 2017 21:55:58
jack has been very poor. but in all honesty most of the signings have been very very poor. our formations are all very very poor. a form of 352 should be adopted. but i really feel this is getting close to the end for us now. its only going to get worse. supporters will start to depart over the next few years and the realistic future is dire.
22 Oct 2017 22:04:14
Unfortunately we cannot depend on Rossiter ever being a regular in our first team. I would be very happy to be wrong, the guy has huge potential.
For me Dorrans had his best game against St Johnstone wether it was coincidence that was when Jack was missing is open to debate but I believe it to be the case.
Holt, Dorrans and Pena looked good that game and I'd like to see them play together in the midfield again.
22 Oct 2017 22:19:28
MOCBear, Good post, a bit of analysis with constructive solution, whether I agree or not I respect your opinion.
22 Oct 2017 22:53:37
Jack is just an average player and is symptomatic of where we are just now that he gets a game in our midfield. Very limited player who isn’t what’s needed if we are to move forward. Always feel any Scottish player playing in central midfield for us should be in the Scotland squad. However he will never be anywhere near it
23 Oct 2017 08:31:08
I would be in support of moving jack to left back and deploying young john further up the park and dropping Windass having Holt and dorrans in the middle and playing Ryan Hardie running off Morelos instead of pena but we must keep the ball on the ground.
22 Oct 2017 21:22:38
apart from poor tactics and player choice, we definitely have a fitness issue, generally after half time we fold, there MUST be a reason.
22 Oct 2017 22:41:57
We have a clown in charge who hasn’t a clue
22 Oct 2017 21:03:45
Letz look at facts not passionate rhetoric about Pedro
1) he tried to get Walker! We are led to believe there were efforts made for Moult and mclean. We could have had all 3 for less than the cost of pena and herrera and had change to spare. Whose were those decisions? Is pena worth 2.7 mill
2) windass has been rotten
Look at today 3 fairly central strikez at goal . all straight at keeper. itz pedro who picks him
3) He devalues clubs assetz by banning them to under 20s etc
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4) Pedro seems to have a habit of falling out with people
5) is Pedro devaluing the manager status at our great club
In so many ways Pedro is not working and that with havi g more money than all other SPL clubs put tovgether aside celtic
I know what i think about it
And before you jump in and bang on about a new squad look at the number motherwell brought in.
22 Oct 2017 21:13:03
Don’t disagree with any of that mate he’s not the man to take us forward
22 Oct 2017 21:16:04
MOTHERWELL spent a fraction of what RANGERS did in the transfer market end of story.
22 Oct 2017 21:32:32
Hope mr King and rest of board come out
with a statement in the coming days to let
us know where our club is going
22 Oct 2017 21:42:26
I would say it’s obvious where we are going! bloody nowhere the board need to sack the clown never mind a statement
22 Oct 2017 22:20:50
Put it this way something has to happen soon one way or another jdeans63 as we are turning into a laughing stock once again
22 Oct 2017 22:47:58
Pedro is a rotten Manager who is totally clueless. He seems to have a habit of losing big games. 3 to Celtic, 2 cup semi finals, the European debacle as well as defeats to Aberdeen and Hibs at home. The team is weak, lacks fitness and seems to fold very easily. Pena, Herrera and jack have been poor and why he keeps picking the utterly useless Windass is beyond belief. The only way to move forward is to sack this clown and try and bring in someone up to the job
23 Oct 2017 11:11:20
Sorry Hunty. All 5 of your facts are passionate rhetoric.
22 Oct 2017 20:38:26
Rino Gatuso anyone? Pedros time has come and gone, he has failed every test put before him. His players are not good enough but his tactics make them look even worse I'm sorry but he has to go.
22 Oct 2017 20:43:05
Aye from bad to worse with Gattuso.
Great player but poor record as a manager.
22 Oct 2017 20:44:19
Eff off with that nonsense now.
22 Oct 2017 21:21:31
If caixinha were to be changed then gambling with another manager like gattuso etc would catastrophic! It would have to be a no nonsense gaffer who has big experience, managing clubs in britain! We would need a manager of stature and ilk, to challenge rodgers over at the eastend! A few springs to mind right away, ie. sam allardyce, alan pardew, chris coleman,
harry redknapp, jurgen klinsmann etc!
22 Oct 2017 21:32:47
What nonsense?
22 Oct 2017 22:07:25
Eh!
The nonsense of suggesting Gattuso, a proven poor manager, should be the next manager of Rangers.
I'm sure you knew that's what I meant but I'm happy to answer your question.
22 Oct 2017 22:49:57
Big Sam would be a good choice. A no nonsense manager who wouldn’t let any of his teams meekly lie down to their main rivals.
23 Oct 2017 11:07:08
I think Giovanni van Bronkhorst would be good choice for next manager. But would be quite happy for Graham Murty to take charge till end of season.
23 Oct 2017 11:15:44
Sorry Sparky I've retired. Seriously, I've defended Pedro because I thought he had something about him, but after four months working with his own players that he brought here, four months in which to form a playing philosophy, a tactical diagram, a coherent team pattern, a proper fitness regime and a general air of confidence and energy at the club, I'm afraid he has failed on all counts.
I do understand that teams need time to gel, to click, but four months with zero tangible improvement is just about enough. Even if there was just a touch of togetherness, a chink of light, a spark between the players, a flame of passion from them for the jersey, I'd accept the bad with the good and hope that it would eventually all come together. It's not. It's dead in the water.
23 Oct 2017 20:43:09
Big samstuart, I don't think we coukd afford him alex mcleish or tommy wright.
22 Oct 2017 20:25:07
Total poor show for a team in blue jerseys manager has too look at himself and where he is taking this club.
22 Oct 2017 20:41:38
I totally agree with you, maybe all these teams that sing your not Rangers anymore are right. I can't remember the last time (if any) that this team have shown us any of the renowned rangers fight and togetherness, We showed nothing today we were totally bullied of the park by a team of nobody's. Pedro needs to sort it out very quickly or we will have nothing to play for by Christmas.
22 Oct 2017 20:19:39
No heart or fight and we are going to be stuck way about four foreign dumplings on long contracts! Pedro must be removed ASAP? It is just going to get worse under him 😡😡😡.
22 Oct 2017 20:52:26
Had the chance to sign home grown players an did not down to the managerand he has failed
22 Oct 2017 20:16:06
We really made a mess of that. How many chances does windass need? I think it said it all when PC was sent to the stand and instead of sitting with the board he stood at the exit door. Fair play to motherwell they made the most of there chances and moult is on fire.
22 Oct 2017 21:10:08
Moult is a better and cheaper striker than Herrera. It was a no brainer to try and get him in the summer yet our Manager decided to ignore him. Sums him up
22 Oct 2017 21:18:46
we had enough chances to win that game twice over but took not one of them I’ve said many times on here we should have bought Moult when we had the chance not one player for me earned pass marks today thought Motherwell were on the physical side in fact over the top at times the Ref should have done better but you have to stand up to that but we can’t sack Pedro yet I’ve said I’ll give him to the end of the season and I stand by that another transfer window Morelos needs help up front Windass is not the answer Pena is s mystery we. We’d sone British player a left winger if we can afford him Moult I’d have put Holt on in place of Pena today we needed legs in midfield very disappointed today and Hampden is a tip £37 for a seat in the gods one toilet for our section very poor
22 Oct 2017 19:49:47
I stand by Pedro. I like him, I like his passion for our club. He will get it right, everyone praising Pena last week and now he's never been a player again. Roll on Wednesday as we get 3 point closer to Celtic as the Sheep are going to end their run. Please remember Fergie struggled at Man-U for a while but they stuck by him. I would like DK to be honest about wether there will be funds available in Jan, we could do with someone with some bollocks for games like today's game.
22 Oct 2017 20:10:18
Careful there Matt.
The current trend is to overreact to everything and slate everyone you see in front of you.
For what it's worth I agree with you and I'm slightly disgusted with the over the top doom mongering from our fellow fans.
22 Oct 2017 20:13:21
Sorry but not everyone was praising Pens after the St Johnstone game he is rubbish despite scoring twice. Fair play to you for backing Pedro however I want him out and can’t see him winning anything for us.
22 Oct 2017 20:22:28
Pena has been rubbish from the start. I've said it all along. A couple of goals doesn't change my opinion. Pc and all his duds out.
22 Oct 2017 21:01:05
Sky just highlighted six big games lost and If performances were encouraging in these games i might feel differently. Losing 5-1 at home to our greatest rivals is bad enough but can I really accept that we can’t put out a team to compete against the 4th best team in Luxembourg and fail to score against them or even compete and score against Motherwell in a National semi final. Come on, there’s no excuses with the budget at our manager’s disposal. We didn’t look up for it and we shouldn’t have let Motherwell run the game, we went out with a whimper again and no real Rangers man can or will accept that. Rangers fans deserve better and we’re being sold short if some radical changes are not made by the Manager of this club or by the Chairman and the Board.
22 Oct 2017 21:01:22
I keep reading he will get it right he can’t win 3 games in a row so what do you see to back this up? his time is up in my opinion I’ll be happy to see the back of him
22 Oct 2017 21:04:42
Pedros going nowhere for now so youse best all get used to it. Should Liverpool sack JK? Should ManU sack JM as they were awfull yesterday against Huddersfield? There’s going to be a run of uninterrupted league games now up until the new year, a chance to build some momentum. I bet Pena’s in the top 5 scorers in the league come the end of the season., get behind Pedro, get behind Carlos as he comes from a place where football is technical not rushed like here, he knows where the onion bag is and the rest of his game will speed up naturally. You don’t get caps for Mexico for being crap, Mexico aren’t Scotland.
22 Oct 2017 21:38:22
Sadly Matt a think you’re right we better get used to it this imposter is here to stay unless the club show some balls and remove him ASAP which a don’t see happening
22 Oct 2017 22:09:32
What do I just tell you Matt? Lol.
22 Oct 2017 22:49:25
I wish the comparisons would stop, especially with one of the greatest managers ever. This guy can't manage his own emotions, so how is he capable of managing 11 other guys.
22 Oct 2017 22:32:57
It’s all about opinions only a game and on this 1 we disagree but I believe the board took a gamble on pedro and it’s not worked out so I think they should hold there hands up and admit they got it wrong and let him go! you may think I am over reacting and that’s fine with me 👍🏻All I want is my team back doing well and a don’t see it happening with Pedro
22 Oct 2017 22:58:30
Laudrup1 I genuinely thank you for being rational in your approach.
I can not in all honesty state I have a huge degree in faith that Pedro will be the manager to lead us to a level of equilibrium with Celtic but I believe it's far too early to slate the man and call for his sacking. The end of the season is time to address the man's position and we all hope we will be in a good position come then.
23 Oct 2017 20:32:07
I think you'll find i was 1 of a number of posters that slated Pena last week as well. a lot of persons think if a guy scores 2 in a game he must be great but Pena is hopeless.
22 Oct 2017 19:35:12
Thanks but no thanks Pedro. the time has come to say goodbye and take 2.5 million pound dross bag they call pena with you. just lock the door behind you now feck off
22 Oct 2017 19:49:13
This hysterical BS is really p***ING me off. Pena set up morales for at least 3 clear goal opportunities. We should have been 4 goals up by half time and weren't, tough!, another day game over. Our centre half got his nose broke! Moult took advantage, good on him. No one was a stand out but we should have been home and hosed by half time. It WILL come good but the comments on here are really poor.
Waken up guys, we are 6 months in on a complete rebuild, we are still in touch for 2nd in league and in first cup semi, THIS NOT THE 90'S
22 Oct 2017 19:58:47
I hold my hands up and say I thought Pedro deserved the full season at least but on that 2nd half performance today and the stats of not winning 3 games on the trot since he took over is abysmal, it's looking like we will be back to square one and starting from scratch again very shortly, as for Pena and Herrera I just don't get why they 2 are even here another complete waste of money on 2 players who haven't played outside of mexico and then to come to Scotland and think they could fit in with the style of football here is a joke, once again I apologise for not seeing this sooner but for me now Pedro has to go it's just not working
22 Oct 2017 20:08:24
Pedro's not good enough, he should go &take penna, Herrera, dalcio and windass with him, get o'neil or Mcinnes in
22 Oct 2017 20:10:00
Seeing Pena getting it again about being an empty jersey what about dorrans today he done nothing but he's getting away with it cause he's a bluenose. Many of the fans have made their minds up about Pena already and that's their opinion but be fair be as critical on the rest of the team.
22 Oct 2017 20:17:12
Hysterical bull my a. e the guy can't win 3 games in a row some of us who aren't dillusional see this is an imposter of a manager and team . motherwell said they were going to bully us all over park he knew they were going to be physical ok ref was s. t always excuses give him time he will come good and I'm quite prepared to give somebody time if they know what their doing he doesn't end of season or next we will go knowhere with this guy cut our losses now
22 Oct 2017 20:18:41
Bil72
No it won’t come good under the current Manager and to try and defend him by saying he got us to a cup semi final is embarrassing. Is that success for us now? 6 points behind the top 2 after 9 games is hardly great either. Sad that fans like you are happy with the rubbish that is pedro’s team and the rotten performances. Take it the embarrassing defeat in Europe was acceptable too?
22 Oct 2017 22:48:59
Very good Baza. So you pay him off. Pay off all his signings and give the new manager money to bring in another new team. King is skint, Pedro is out his depth, players not good enough. Its more difficult than telling him to leave.
22 Oct 2017 23:00:54
Sparky1320
No one said I was happy! But! We are only 6 months in to total rebuild of our club. We have another transfer window coming up. Honestly if you cannot name someone with 75 - 100 mill just to change things AGAIN! then happy to hear your views. We are streets ahead of the bread mans team and Christ knows how we compare to McCoist's lot of chancers.
REALITY CHECK BEARS, . WAKE UP.
23 Oct 2017 11:01:12
What you on about the 90's for, rangers were a winning team till 2011 or you just out a coma? Look were the most successful club in the world bar none. that's why we can't accept one step forward 2 steps back attitude, its must win every game, that's what it means at rangers we ain't some 2 bob mob who just shrug it off. We are the people.
23 Oct 2017 11:05:25
Ready why should he take windass he never bought him.
22 Oct 2017 19:34:09
i have been working with portugese lads for a while now. there first reaction to his appointment at rangers was they must be crazy. nobody likes him in portugal. no team would want him hence why he went to mexico. the lads just laugh every time i join the ship saying is he not gone yet.
22 Oct 2017 22:43:54
I don't think its Peds fault we can't score when we're on top and our keeper can't catch a bread n butter cross
22 Oct 2017 19:21:48
wining 2 out of every 3 games would give you a points tally of 76 at the end of the season which is good enough for second most seasons. Going on a longer runs consistently is winning the league territory, second is our aim this season but who knows.
22 Oct 2017 19:33:29
You don't half talk some mince mate! The stuff you post on here is complete and utter rubbish! You must be Pedro in disguise?
Who knows? I know! I know we're no where good enough to be even thinking the utter garbage that's floating about in your head! Even for you this is bad! Get a grip of yourself man it's embarrassing!
22 Oct 2017 19:35:41
Sorry, we were kicked off the park today. Refereeing was abysmal . How come someone can get a broken nose by an elbow in a headed ball incident and the offender does not get booked. TV showed the ref had vision of the incident.
OK maybe we are too soft, but the fact is that the rules are not being applied. big time. Alnwick with his height should have stopped or caught the first goal, commanded the area like the Well goalie and could not be arsed making any attempt at the second.
Pena, well had opportunity to deliver and was poor. Too much clubbing on Sat night.
22 Oct 2017 19:59:24
Slk73 its only my opinion calm down. Also are you disagreeing with my arithmetic.
22 Oct 2017 20:02:31
Let's please not go down the always cheated, never defeated road.
The ref had a shocker today, no question but Motherwell deserved their win.
And didn't Caxinha state that he welcomed the physical challenge of Motherwell?
22 Oct 2017 20:22:23
Less opinion more delusion TJBB. I admire opinion if that opinion makes any sense. Your opinions, I'm sorry to say, are pure fantasy! You can crunch as many numbers as you want but even Rachel Riley from Countdown would have trouble making sense of your arithmetic!
I appreciate you want to back the manager and the team, however, you need to be a lot more realistic and accept how poor both are!
22 Oct 2017 22:46:53
Tommie Rangers never even tried to play football. A big boot upfield and see who can get on the end of it. Forget the referee Rangers did nothing to win that game. All attacks came from a boot upfield. How can a team improve playing that way? So Pedro gets sacked. Rangers pay him off. New manager not his players so start again. But where is the money going to come from? King has said he is skint so he can't turn up and give a new manager £10mill. The 3 bears must have had enough now as well. Pedri might have been the last throw of the dice.
22 Oct 2017 22:50:10
Are yous surprised Motherwell gubbed you today? . well I'm not. infact I'd have been more surprised if rangers had won with that overpaid excuse of footballer pena in the team.
22 Oct 2017 22:33:39
2/3 x 38 = 25.33,
25.33 x 3 = 76 points.
Im not being cheeky or want an argument with a fellow bear but how can you argue, wining 2 out of 3 will get you 76 points.
22 Oct 2017 18:52:06
I think Pedro is now on borrowed time. I really wanted it to work out for him and will still support him whilst he is in charge, unfortunately I think the media don’t like him and see him as an easy target since day 1. They will not be happy until he is gone and they have won. Scottish Football is not welcoming to foreigners, is not receptive to forward thinking and better ideas/ footballing philosophies, and that is why scottish football is falling behind the rest of Europe.
22 Oct 2017 19:14:44
So the media are to blame for pedro's failures?
22 Oct 2017 19:19:39
Bobbybeag
Do you honestly think that Pedro has shown any forward thinking? Pedro isn’t good enough and to try and blame the media for the sub standard performances ( which there have been many) and bad results is frankly laughable. the media didn’t buy these duds or continually pick clowns like Windass.
22 Oct 2017 22:41:38
He did not say media to blame for Pedro’s failures. Think part of problem is that he does not fully understand yet the nature of Scottish life including the media and how to get media on your side. Every week does not neeed to be a battle with the media and I actually think he is starting to understand that.
Think an apparent weakness is his complete passion and emotion for everything he does at our club. This is only a weakness because he does not have enough senior Scottish influence around the club or on the pitch. He was unwise in his recruitment of so many foreigners. Really hope he has a few conversations with Walter and I am sure he can correct the National balance of the squad in January window.
22 Oct 2017 18:47:37
For Calamero they put Motherwell fans in the corner at Hampden today and you STILL got pumped.
22 Oct 2017 20:16:31
100% agree with you dhimalloy, maybe shut up a few of the muppets and their excuses.
22 Oct 2017 22:40:27
We did get beat aye but it was good to see them support their team and not hang er things from the stand or sing about bigotry or killing British soldiers it was just about the football today timalloy and that’s the way it should be at the football
22 Oct 2017 22:45:06
Next time we shouldn't give Motherwell any tickets and we should make Andy Cameron the ref 😂
22 Oct 2017 23:01:12
Thanks for the first light hearted look at today's game SG34.
23 Oct 2017 20:33:50
Only a game its only a game 😂
22 Oct 2017 18:40:02
I've only just calmed down after that result . Firstly about Motherwell they kicked Rangers off the park today every one of them battered into Rangers players at every opportunity from minute one, there was only one team trying to play football out there today, Bowman was an animal, our players got no protection from the ref. That's not an excuse it's just fact. On to Rangers well where do I start, in my opinion we should have been 2 or 3 up by the time well scored, that's our fault and no one else's. Second half performance was extremely poor we were a shambles. As for Pedro I like him but i hate to say it's clearly not going to happen for him it's just not working and in my opinion i think Rangers should just bight the bullet and make the change now.
22 Oct 2017 18:57:01
The manager isn’t good enough and never will be. I don’t know what it will take for some fans to see how poor we are and how poor the Manager is. He is totally clueless and won’t win anything under him
22 Oct 2017 19:07:59
Motherwell got into the final the same way they got into the semi's, by kicking the s***t out of the opposition.
I'm actually not overly annoyed after the game. For me it was just one of those games where where we were the better team but on the day lady luck wasn't on our side. Having said that Pena and Windass failed to turn up today (just my opinion) . I feel wee Josh needs to be dropped and. Three bad performances in a row deserves such as a reaction and I'd really like to see how Nemane looks after a couple of starts.
We didn't play particularly badly so it's onwards and upwards as far as I am concerned. Keep the faith fellow bears.
22 Oct 2017 19:15:43
He needs to go asap. Total joke of a Manager who hasn’t a clue. Paying £4m for 2 duds from Mexico, continually playing the rotten Windass. 3 drubbings to Celtic, losing to a mid table part time team from Luxembourg and not being able to string 3 wins together in a poor league. I don’t know how much worse it’s going to have to get before some on here can see how poor he is? We have no chance of winning anything under him and we will be left scraping with Hibs, Hearts and Motherwell for a top 5 finish
22 Oct 2017 19:16:00
Please stop making excuses, its embarressing
22 Oct 2017 19:33:48
Over reacting to loosing a competitive game where we were the the better team three months after assembling a new team is embarrassing.
22 Oct 2017 19:38:38
I don't like to see anybody lose their job. but. leaving Kenny Miller out of the squad is football suicide. To think Pena is better than Miller is just plain stuburness. Its not looking good for him.
22 Oct 2017 19:43:26
We got bullied they said they were going to do it before game so can't blame ref if though he was s. e would a manager who knew what he was doing let this happen he even said he expected them to be physical so stop moaning were managed by a guy plenty of passion good to listen too but not suited to Scottish football we will do nothing if he stays in charge
22 Oct 2017 19:57:50
Cadden admitted in his interview on Sky Sports that the game plan was to be physical but the ref lost control of the game.
There should have been at least 3 red cards.
22 Oct 2017 19:59:44
Kenny Miller was removed from the squad for an internal disciplinary reason and he was absolutely honking in every game he had played this season.
To think that the game would have turned out differently had he featured is sensationalist dillusionism in the extreme.
22 Oct 2017 20:19:28
Only a game, how many more daft excuses are you going to spout before you see sense. Copland01 lol.
22 Oct 2017 20:24:57
Only a game
What are you taking about? It’s not down to losing today. It’s losing to a team from Luxembourg, 3 drubbings off Celtic, not being able to win 3 games in a row in Scotland, continually picking players like Windass and spending £4m for 2 duds from Mexico when we could have got Moult and Walker for less than half of that amount. Bottom line the manager is useless, won't win anything and needs to be sacked
22 Oct 2017 20:39:06
No excuses Coldo but if you watched the game the ref had a shocker say no more but goals win games.
22 Oct 2017 20:58:02
What daft excuses are you referring to?
I believe we were the better team today and should have taken our chances, Motherwell were more clinical than us and I believe they were physical to the extent they were playing out with the rules of football. Surely you can not disagree with that.
I fully accept that Pena has not been great regardless of his goal scoring return, Windass should not be near the starting line up and Miller was s**t this season before being dropped.
But most of all I believe we have some of the best fans and in recent seasons the worst fans with there knee jerk over the top reactions to anything.
Could you tell me what I have just said you disagree with and why.
I'd love us all to be singing from the same sheet but as stated some of our fans are dillusional in there short term expectations of where we should be.
We did not play particularly badly today but lost.
Get a grip guys.
22 Oct 2017 23:43:52
No surprise there's been no response to my question.
Sensationalism and rationality don't exactly go hand in hand.
22 Oct 2017 18:24:49
Devastated at result but not totally surprised, I thought Motherwell would be in our faces and would score at least one goal. But let's take stock we out played them for large parts of the game, they poleaxed our defender and then scored through his position. We had numerous chances and could have won easily on another day. As usual ref was shocking. Still behind Pedro, we are just prob 3 players short of a very good squad, our left flank is week, imagine if we managed to bag Moult, Walker and Maclean as Pedro wanted in Summer, I think we may still be in Europe, 2nd in league and in the cup final. Not Pedros fault we could not get the players. Keep the faith. The day we agree with Sutton we have lost the plot. and don't follow Sutton.
22 Oct 2017 18:33:58
delusional post, you want to get a grip, what's sutton got to do with the way we played today,3 players there today who should not be wearing a gers top never mind playing
22 Oct 2017 18:38:11
TJBB
You’re delusional if you think under this clown we will do anything. We are rank rotten and are no better than the Motherwells of this world.
22 Oct 2017 18:39:44
Sorry 3 players from very good squad sorry don't agree Pena 2 and half million joke the players we couldve got for that moult McLean walker for starters . give him until end of season but I don't think things will improve much . his decision making tactical awareness but to be desired. king didn't look to happy will he back his manager in January doubt it after money he's wasted don't think he's suited to Scottish game he's an imposter of an manager plenty a passion good talker that's about all
22 Oct 2017 18:45:02
Team got bullied all over park, Pena and Windass waste of space effectively playing with 9 men when they are on park. Moult should have been snapped up in summer instead of the cart horse that's Herrera. The team again looked devoid of tactical awareness or more like don't have a clue what the manager is asking them to do. I'm afraid I'm now in the Pedro must go camp still not won 3 games in a row under his tenure not good enough for Rangers
22 Oct 2017 19:00:51
First Sutton has nothing to do with the way we played, but in the after match analysis he was very forceful and wants Pedro sacked. i'm not delusional its just my opinion guys . We need to build the club back up, your asking the impossible if you think this will happen over night. Give till the end of season and then take stock anything short of that is not the Rangers way. Agree Pena is now running out of time as is Windass. Please keep it respectful on here guys and gals we are all (i think) on the same team and if we were down the pub speaking to each other like some posts then I can't see a second round being ordered.
22 Oct 2017 19:30:30
long balls to morelos and nemane
nuff said
22 Oct 2017 20:24:20
3 players from a very good squad are you serious
Windass - a poor Mackay
Pena - Slow and shocking first touch
Herrera - very little game time but looks slow and cumbersome.
We had Miller sitting in the stand time for clarity by Caixinha.
Unfortunately we have let Caixinha waste money in the transfer window say no more.
Like every other Gers fan I had hoped Caixinha would be a success but his appointment remains a big?
22 Oct 2017 18:23:27
I know the laws of football have changed a bit these past years but can anyone say if a referee can give himself a red card? That has to be the worst refereeing performance I've seen for years and this guy should be suspended by the SFA. Shocking doesn't sum up his inept performance and you have to ask questions.
22 Oct 2017 18:51:03
Mr Disagree please explain Morelos in on goal when a red card didn't even get a free kick and when Cardoso's bust nose to a second elbow didn't get a second booking. looking forward to your written explanation and considered thought process.
22 Oct 2017 19:11:13
He definitely had a shocker and I think it's worth noting his display wasn't really overly favourable to one particular side.
Just a bad display on the day from the official for me.
22 Oct 2017 19:17:18
The ref never cost us the game
22 Oct 2017 19:41:15
Coldo, and the earth is flat? Two reds should have been shown to Motherwell. No protection from the ref at all and that affects a player. We played football and they played kick and run and kick and the ref played along. The ref cost us the game.
22 Oct 2017 20:20:57
Kfraser. Shhh, no more excuses.
22 Oct 2017 21:26:17
The ref had a poor game Fraser but don’t blame him for that crap today pedro has to go that’s plain to see to me
22 Oct 2017 22:39:43
Agreed. He was pants. Rangers should have had Morelos and Alves sent off. Don't blame ref. We were pants too.
22 Oct 2017 18:19:46
on the bright side. its only going to be 4 maulings instead of 5 from celtic this year.
big sam would do a job until end of the season. would he come. in a hear beat.
there would be no half hearted with him. not good enough your gone with him.
22 Oct 2017 18:42:10
Thinking the same Jamie Celtic would've won come end of November . hibs got nearer to them 2 games this season than caxhina has any of his games
22 Oct 2017 17:52:43
Really wanted it to work out for Pedro as I think he is a real character! Unfortunately I just can’t see how things can improve from here. It’s the same story, we get a few good results but we just fall apart when ever a big game comes along.
22 Oct 2017 18:26:34
He has only just started a project had to basically change a hole squad around it was never going to be a quick fix he he has more transfer windows to come yet he will turn it around I'm still sure he will.
22 Oct 2017 18:35:46
another post in denial
22 Oct 2017 18:41:07
Deanobear
This clown lost to a part time team from Luxembourg. We are no better than the Motherwells and Hearts of this world and if you think we will do anything under him then your delusional. If your happy with that then it shows how low we have fallen. Sad times
222 Oct 2017 22:47:14
Motherwell have had to build a new side so your post is non starter
23 Oct 2017 11:00:50
Been saying it for ages, he isn't up to the job. he's a real character but that usually means a right nut job and he is. Time to go.
22 Oct 2017 17:25:43
Pedro has to go - Said it on hear after the last Celtic game and I was criticized . We will be lucky to finish top four if he stays - Dave King will have seen today a manager who may have passion but fundamentally doesn’t have a clue- look at the Motherwell manager as soon as he was sent off, straight into the phone organizing his team - Pedro just stood there doing nothing. We need better and he has had long enough . Finally why no Holt today the wee man did enough to retain his place but once again drops out for Windass - who is single fish
22 Oct 2017 18:14:37
I agree about the holt comment, he looked good in the team against st johnstone, plenty of pace going forward that we definitely lacked today. Not mentioning some of the decisions by the referee today, we were back to being out muscled in every challenge and 50/ 50 balls, I know we need a settled team, but we need players in there who are going to battle for it for 90 minutes and I don't see that in many of them at the moment, although they looked like they were getting there in perth
22 Oct 2017 20:46:01
go u join the green mob
22 Oct 2017 17:23:11
We were unlucky today, we could have won if we'd put away our chances. Plus the ref let them away with murder. Persistent hacking the whole game man.
Like pedo sticking up for the players, he got sent off but he was right the big guy broke his nose with an elbow and was on a yellow.
Cant blame anyone other than ourselves st end of the day. But we never deserved to get beat in that game, their first was lucky and second was a screemer from a boot up the park.
We look much better than last year, I think we are just waiting on something to click.
There is obviously room for improvement, but what do folk expect?
22 Oct 2017 18:09:47
a bit of heart and fight and a hell of a lot more quality. the full motherwell team cost what rangers paid for pena. infact probably not even half. would be different if it was a 1 off and was an off day. this has been the standard since day 1. shocking and poor. so to answer your question. What do we expect a million times better.
22 Oct 2017 20:47:00
Camoo, you sound like a fan of the dark side. Yes we had chances and yes the ref was shocking but let's not forget Motherwell have a fraction of the budget we have. Ok you can lose a one off game but the lack of cohesion and fight in the second half was shocking. And it is another record this man is responsible for - the first time Motherwell have beaten us in a semi final. When is it going to register with the Pedro fans on here? This man does not have what it takes to manage our club. Yes I like the man and I love his passion but King has to do the right thing and sack him now. He is our Ronny Deila
22 Oct 2017 21:44:21
No need seeker. I'm as pissed off as anyone but I'm not comparing you or anyone else to a Celtic fan.
I'm like one of the dark side for thinking for most of the game we were actually the better side.
Aye we were not playing the best football in the world but still done enough to beat them.
We were unlucky with our chances today and their goaly made some good saves. - it just wasn't to be for us.
The ref was diabolical, that's a fact not a conspiracy theory.
I'd love for us to be challenging for everything right now but remember where we have come from in a short space of time.
22 Oct 2017 16:59:13
A wanted this man Pedro to succeed as a great Rangers manager so I reserved judgement on him giving him a chance. but it’s chance after chance with this man this team he’s built is worse than the magic hat . No discipline no direction no leader on or off the park time for Pedro to go
22 Oct 2017 17:39:40
This isn’t a told you so post and I stand united with my fellow fans but I feel terrible that I’m part of that team that played today. I agree Pedro needs to go now and have always stated that. King to blame also for appointing him.
22 Oct 2017 17:43:58
Rangers had chances today Windass simply is not good enough, everyone jumps on here to stab in when the result does not go our way, a clear red card at 0-0 is a desicive part in the game, the left wing is try to be addressed hence the Jamie Walker interest and for the anti football supporters screaming for Sam arrldyce give me a break builds workman predictable teams hence the amount of jobs he has had! We where unlucky today!
22 Oct 2017 20:21:19
Pedro has to go and he doesn't realise that rangers
Are a big club and the job is too big for him to handle
Time to go ped
22 Oct 2017 20:27:25
Pedro must stay 😂
22 Oct 2017 20:48:56
Even Pedro admitted that we were not good enough. Leave the excuses to the dark side
22 Oct 2017 16:53:03
Surely all the Pedro supporters can see the man just isn't good enough! He's our Ronnie diela.
22 Oct 2017 16:59:32
His times up, every record that can go's under him. partys over ped.
22 Oct 2017 17:09:26
Hurting so much right now. we can change the manager but he'll still be working with the same players. Yes there may be some improvement but some of these guys just aren't good enough, and never will be. We need serious investment now or this could go on for another decade.
22 Oct 2017 17:13:05
Think u'll find that Ronnie won 2 titles in his time here Jason! Ronnie was hounded from day one from the media and pundits alike and was nowhere near as big a clown or inept manager that's currently in charge of you!
22 Oct 2017 17:17:48
To be fair to Ronnie Deila, he was inept but he actually won big games and trophies. Under Caxinha we have been humiliated three times by Celtic, lost to the fourth best team in Luxembourg and then beaten rather easily by a rank ordinary Motherwell team in Caxinha's first and last semi final in Scotland, a result that didn't surprise me in the slightest.
Addicted to winning. Not to any more than one or two games in a row apparently.
22 Oct 2017 18:42:23
Oh 86 - did he reach the champions league?
22 Oct 2017 18:45:46
LH86
Can’t disagree with anything you said, Pedro is an utter clown who is totally clueless. I’m flabbergasted that some Gers fans still back this man and seem to accept such poor performances.
22 Oct 2017 19:04:15
Jason what the hell has Ronnie getting to the CL got to do with it? U said Pedro is your Ronnie delia but in fact Ronnie finished first in his 2 seasons with us! And won a double in his first year! Something your manager could only dream of right now! Ronnie won more silverware than the magic hat and Pedro combined and neither received the hounding Ronnie got!
22 Oct 2017 20:29:05
Jason think you'll find ronnie won the league twice. he's more like paul le guen
22 Oct 2017 20:32:32
Jason Brown Ronnie Delia won leagues and cups so Pedro is not your Ronnie he is your Pedro Caxhina the Vampire
22 Oct 2017 20:49:13
Aye but a monkey could have won the league when we were not there. Even Pedro would win this league without your lot in it.
22 Oct 2017 23:37:13
Even Pedro could win the league without us in it! U actually believe that seeker don't u! Remind me how points behind Aberdeen did u end up last season? And how many points are u away from them this season! If the champs were not in this league then Aberdeen would be champions pal make no mistake about that!
22 Oct 2017 16:52:01
After the Celtic game I posted that Pedro should go and be reached by Tommy wright.
Wonder if the smart arses who raged against me then still feel the same.
22 Oct 2017 17:18:54
Pedro just needs time for the players to gel. We're much better than last year and the players are much better than Warburton's.
Aye right!
22 Oct 2017 20:50:20
If King had installed big Eck and given him 10 million I guarantee we would not be in this position. And chances are we would still be in Europe.
22 Oct 2017 16:51:37
Dave king did not look happy at full time! Is Pedro's time up?
22 Oct 2017 17:44:24
I hope acts a. s. a. p, but his track record isn't good in picking managers.
22 Oct 2017 20:22:20
More importantly what time is king about to serve. contempt of court pending.
22 Oct 2017 20:28:34
No rangers fan was happy!
22 Oct 2017 16:48:25
Get big sam i now. Whatever it takes. Available and knows british game. PC must go now. Time is up
22 Oct 2017 17:01:37
I'd love this but won't happen
22 Oct 2017 17:20:21
british game? r u saying scottish and english games are same
22 Oct 2017 20:31:24
Personally I'd get rid off the fools who hired Pedro, surely they must be held responsible? I. e Stuart Robertson
22 Oct 2017 16:41:15
I wonder if I could have a bit of help maybe from yourself Ed or anyone who knows when was this Portuguese guy given the Rangers job?
22 Oct 2017 23:18:48
March 2017.
22 Oct 2017 16:40:01
I'd even take Stephen Robinson if Pedro goes especially if he can get us playing with heart like he has Motherwell.
22 Oct 2017 16:38:06
Pena was a total empty shirt the whole time he was on the pitch I'd have put Bolt or Miller in instead of Pena and Herrera should be sent home on the next flight waste of time and m9ney both him and Pena.
22 Oct 2017 16:36:12
Get Moult signed up in Jan but the price has mabey just gone up!
22 Oct 2017 17:06:48
My only issue is, if he is free sporting elsewhere, when he comes to rangers it will be recycle back passing pish. New gaffer first
22 Oct 2017 18:03:24
Unfortunately beating rangers is the norm these days moults price will go up if he can do the same against Celtic. Just hope he does sign for us.
22 Oct 2017 23:21:46
I would think his price would be eff all on a pre contract come January.
Don't think anyone would argue he's worth approaching on a pre contract.
22 Oct 2017 16:35:17
By God. that was truely Howlin!
Did Pedro not tell the boys there was a game on today? .
22 Oct 2017 16:32:28
Pedro gtf. Not got a clue team spineless gutless. Where do u start. Been saying this for months. Get big sam in now
22 Oct 2017 16:25:12
Pathetic! A total shambles from a team of disjointed cowards with a clown for a manager! Taken apart by a player we could have snapped up for £700k in the Sumner instead of blowing £3 million on a couple of duds from Mexico. The blame lies with the manager as it was him who signed 2 useless empty shirts and flushed all the money down the sewar! How anyone on here can defend him, Pena, and the rest of this mess is beyond me! Time to wake up here and admit just how bad we are!
23 Oct 2017 20:41:08
Should have signed moult, McLean, walker and I honestly would have kept joe garner instead of Herrera, Pena and dalcio. And still had money left over
22 Oct 2017 16:24:29
Enough is enough. P45 for Pedro tonight and single ticket to Faro. Not good enough over many many months. King must act now or empty seats at Ibrox will be the result.
22 Oct 2017 17:14:33
Cant ford to sack him, never mind the 1-way ticket to Faro unless its on a megabus
22 Oct 2017 16:23:12
I’m afraid it’s time up Pedro absolutely shocking performance
22 Oct 2017 16:22:08
I back the gaffer as he is our manager but that was crap. Motherwell got away with everything but we were rank. Windass is awful but today dorrans was just as bad and pena, well I want him to be good but he is a man down herrera should have played in front of him. As for signing moult, that guy is a scumbag.
22 Oct 2017 17:04:36
Moult is a scumbag? He should have been signed for us stop talking nonsense. Also you say you back the manager but then slate Pena, who brought him? Who never bought a left mid and constantly plays Windass? Pedro is to blame it's his team now, every test he has had he has failed. The warning signs were there losing to progress Niederkorn. Times up Pedro
22 Oct 2017 18:27:02
I said I wanted him to be good was he any good, was dorrans was windass
22 Oct 2017 20:42:53
Why is moult a scumbag? Did nothing wrong all game if urequired talking about at the end Alves was the one that swung a kick. Moult bullied us AGAIN
22 Oct 2017 16:05:26
This hard to watch utter pish
22 Oct 2017 16:05:17
absolute dire. time for pedro to go. his team are a shambles. guttless and clueless. spent so much money on utter dross. last week he said that was the best he had seen. that's because it was 11 v 10.
22 Oct 2017 15:13:02
Pena is absolutely howling. How does fod get a game over alnwick?
22 Oct 2017 15:52:58
Id play Fod instead of Pena 😂
22 Oct 2017 16:04:41
Aye, keep herrera instead of signing moult.
22 Oct 2017 16:22:29
after that Pedro's got to got, would love to say different and hate saying it but we are going nowhere under this guy. He's a clown
22 Oct 2017 16:29:55
Absolutely gutted, where was the team that demolished St Johnstone. Chance after chance missed. The refereeing was diabolical but no excuses there. We were missing in action in the biggest game of the season so far.
22 Oct 2017 16:48:55
I’d love to see his stats. how many touches did he have and did he actually complete any passes? Not like he grafts either. Maybe worst player Iv seen in a Gers jersey in a long long time.
22 Oct 2017 17:05:27
We never actually demolished st Johnston that score flattered us.
22 Oct 2017 15:11:10
this is boredering on pathetic. no pace and total inability to pass a ball. no fight and no heart. jack pena and windass are awful.
22 Oct 2017 16:32:27
They must been laughing when we paid 2 and a half million for Pena he's awfull as was windass. were going nowhere fast under caxhina no heart no bottle doesn't look like a team to me . hibs gave Celtic two harder games this season than any under caxhina
22 Oct 2017 16:34:47
Dorrans should b controlling a game like that. Not many pass marks atol. Ruined my weekend
22 Oct 2017 16:36:02
You see now how fod plays instead of Alnwick
22 Oct 2017 12:22:35
Miller won't be in todays squad and he knows his time is up but this is due to him not being considered a first XI pick. Looks like his salary will be freed up in Jan.
22 Oct 2017 12:55:01
He's not in the squad because him and ped fell out scotty otherwise he would be on the bench at the very least. Miller is a better option than herrera holt etc.
22 Oct 2017 15:47:45
Penas worse than a man doon if he's not scoring
22 Oct 2017 16:25:37
If Pedro had been winning week in week out then I would be backing him over miller but we aren't so maybe miller realises this guy is hopeless. It may tell its own story with miller chatting away with king at the game with club tie on. I think the board may be behind miller and not Pedro
22 Oct 2017 18:47:55
hamiltonger, hope so
22 Oct 2017 20:18:38
Let down again bears. the search for 3 wins in a row continues. a club our size hasn't won 3 games in a row in 11 months, that's not good enuf i'm afraid. i actually don't think we played bad, probably the best team til they scored but how Pena gets a game is beyond me. he literally contributes nothing. i think Morelos is enjoying to much of the Columbian nightlife if he says Penas the best player he's played with
22 Oct 2017 12:13:06
My son is playing for livi against morton and Derek mcinnes just turned up to watch as his son is playing and he is wearing ugg boots no danger should that man ever be considered for our managers position for that what man wears them.
22 Oct 2017 12:56:11
You're not serious gary
22 Oct 2017 13:43:27
100% mate we played them at parklee in the port his boy is a big chunk playing in the centre of the park
22 Oct 2017 14:17:48
Wow 😞
22 Oct 2017 14:44:33
What colour lippy had he on Gary, lol
22 Oct 2017 15:40:53
I hope DK has "footwear" at the top of his selection criteria next time we are looking for a manager.
22 Oct 2017 16:25:35
Mcinnes could wear a thong for all I care, get him in now!
22 Oct 2017 16:39:39
Don't think l would be having a go at McInnes guys, our whole team played in ugg boots against Motherwell l think
22 Oct 2017 03:09:01
Big bruno says pepe and Ronaldo are always asking about life at rangers. Get them signed up, maybe try that boy Ronaldo instead of windass on the left wing.
22 Oct 2017 06:06:19
get them on a trial first. make sure they are good enough
22 Oct 2017 09:20:37
I think you will find big Bruno was talking about "Pepsi" and "Ronald McDonald" more your team's level lol
22 Oct 2017 10:41:53
Imagine if we signed most of Bruno's mates in the near future some over 30 others under 30 w a sprinkling of Scottish spirit, we would be some team
22 Oct 2017 11:32:47
That you got your daily dose of all things rangers dhimalloy, once again you ruin the joke with your patter.
22 Oct 2017 15:08:19
Not wanting to burst any bubbles, but maybe they were just being polite! Anyway, we will do the business today, not getting this Motherwell are decent thing. 4-1 teddies!
22 Oct 2017 15:41:12
Don't know about that tim but sure looked like goofy, Donald and Mickey in your team in Germany last week. And loads of Pepe le Pews in the crowd!
22 Oct 2017 16:37:50
Yea seeker we getting beat by Europes elite, no shame in that.
But you get beat off the SPFL dross now that's shame lol.
22 Oct 2017 20:24:41
Dross that includes yourselves