Rangers Banter Archive April 21 2018
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21 Apr 2018 21:40:46
popcorn teeth for next manager? It's controversial yes but the guy is a good manager! Tims would be raging tae.
21 Apr 2018 21:55:48
Imagineš would guarantee that lacklustre performances like last week wouldn't happen that's for sure
21 Apr 2018 22:21:12
In another world I think he would be an ideal manager as he wouldnāt tolerate rubbish like we suffered last week. However there is no chance he would be offered the job or would take it
21 Apr 2018 22:39:52
Couldnāt stomach it mate, I come from a mixed group of friends and I find that most of the banter is staunch but all the better for it. That is a step to far though! He has the 4th best budget in the league though so heās not pulling up any trees just yet!
22 Apr 2018 00:28:21
Who is popcorn teeth
22 Apr 2018 00:49:18
Could you imagine š
Be folk burning season books and riots on the streets of Glasgow, from both sides š
22 Apr 2018 00:49:57
Ps. Weebear spot on
22 Apr 2018 01:00:49
From your protracted list I think constant wishing/ wanting is getting boring there are three realistic names, that of GVB, Steve Clarke and for good or bad De Boer.
22 Apr 2018 06:58:18
The protracted list is long however the votes cast already (77) show that there is no single candidate that is out in front in the fans eyes so the board are really stuck between a rock and a hard place. My vote went for Steve Clarke by the way and he leads the poll at present with just 15% of votes but Iād be over the moon with Gio van B šš½. Not so much de Boer however I feel both these men would require a big budget to overhaul the squad and for that we would need external investment.
22 Apr 2018 07:39:58
He spat on a Rangers scarf at Ibrox, no way.
21 Apr 2018 21:28:40
Hi Bears, (I know i'm banging on about this but I would be interested in your opinions)
There is a chance we will be 4th in the SPL on current form. If that's the case when Celtic play Motherwell in the Cup final, Motherwell will be playing for the cup and a European place and Celtic will be palying for the double treble and inadvertently playing for our European place.
Q:Who do we want to win?
ED -Ive never asked for a poll but would be interested to see if some of our support would sacrifice Europe to stop the double treble. Personally, no, Europe every time.
I know it all hinges on 4th, so hopefully it won't come to that
PS - A lot of cash is going on FDB at the bookies, 2/ 1. Graham Potter looks like a good coach but never managed a big club - more risk we don't need at the moment - IMO.
{Ed033's Note -
Stop double treble poll
21 Apr 2018 21:43:12
I don't care what they do I want back in Europe asap
21 Apr 2018 22:43:04
Just voted no, canāt believe itās almost 50-50 at present that shocks me as a double treble means nothing as opposed to Europe for us and a treble/ double but hey ho itās a game of opinions!
22 Apr 2018 10:31:44
Thank you for taking the time to vote.
Pretty much 50/50. If the doomsday scenario comes to fruition then at least there will be something to celebrate either way.
21 Apr 2018 18:57:31
This new manager search gives me the fear.
The board felt Perdo was the right man and then felt Mcinnes was the right man - just look at how that's worked out
Whatever process they have or committee are in charge of this needs to change.
21 Apr 2018 19:14:11
Agree I have no confidence in the board to get the next appointment right.
21 Apr 2018 19:19:47
Totally agree, its a huge concern as we don't want our season ticket money wasted again. Another concern of mine is will we finish 2nd in the league? With Hibs and Aberdeen both winning today!
21 Apr 2018 19:33:23
I don't know if you agree with me here guys! I honestly think we should put a lot of our summer budget, into appointing a very good manager! I would easily sacrifice signing and spending a lot on new players, if it meant us securing a manager that is going to take us, firstly the clear 2nd best team in the league and then challenge and reign in celtic, for the scottish premiership title! Its been proven since the invention of the beautiful game, that a good manager can squeeze every ounce out of players with the added bonus of having them organised and the manager himself, being tactically aware! I truly think that if the correct appointment is made by our directors, then we have a lot of decent players who could become superb for us, with proper guidance! So my message to our board is this, "push the boat out and pay a big wage, for a very good manager, that can take us back to the pinnacle of scottish football, where we belong"Over to you rangers directors, don't disappoint us, please!
21 Apr 2018 20:00:21
I agree supercooper. We've lacked leadership more than anything these last few years.
21 Apr 2018 20:19:05
Going on the boards past appointments I have my doubts theyāll get it right.
21 Apr 2018 20:56:37
I'd love to have an insight into the thought process that lead to Pedro getting the job what was it on his limited CV that put him above others
I think we need a football man on the selection panel I'm with others here can't trust the board to get this correct are we going for experienced men or another cost conscious experiment
As a side note was on various Arsenal forums earlier there is no appetite for Brenda at all, all totally dismissive of what he's done up here and his European record is also savaged so can't see that happening
21 Apr 2018 21:08:27
spot on coop
manager still most important figure at any club he sets tone for training, tactics, fitness, recruitment, team
spirit and most of all standards
we need a proper experienced manager so we must to push boat out and make a statement and sign the absl best candidate we can as far too often we settle for 2nd best and mediocrity
this time board must get it right we have to appoint a strong man whoāll take this entire club by scruff of neck and sort it out root and branch.
get right manager right players will follow either from within or bought in externally - a good manager shd be able to improve what we have and spot what we need
over to you Mr King - itās time to put up or shut up youāve done a good job so far but next step is the biggest slog all time to be brave
21 Apr 2018 21:13:49
Good point SC, a top manager hopefully get the best out of the players. I feel sorry for Murty as he has done the best he can, but put in a difficult position. The main thing is, though, that whoever is in charge gets our backing, not just through the good times but the difficult moments too.
21 Apr 2018 23:23:13
As I'm led to believe and this comes from a Park family member it was Graeme Park and Douglas that pushed Pedro forward and even paid his release clause ( which was a few months early ) and paid his wages until it went tits up and landed with our great club paying him off! As I work with a former Rangers defender ( that signed for Liverpool but had to retire at 24 due to injury I'll let you work it out ) he has spoken with the club doc and other memebers of the backroom and he also says that Murty hasn't got respect from the team as they still call him Murts or whatever! He also says the Miller/ Wallacething is blown outta proportion as there was more than these two voicing concern about the direction they had during the ill fated semi final but have been made to look like scapegoats to ease a wage or two
22 Apr 2018 08:23:45
I still like Murty I just think he lacks tactical experience and the balls to go though a team/ player like a steam train.
His level of success is a mark of how bad we have been
We need someone that is tactically experienced and can react tactically in an instant - he doesnāt have that yet
He needs to have the respect and strength in character to deal with player reactions he doesnāt have that yet
I have absolutely no problem with players fighting as last my as they are strong enough to react in the right way - it should never leave the dressing room either - that shows a weakness in the group
What I absolutely canāt accept is what I saw last week
We sat back and let them take the piss
Some might not agree with me but I would have at least left a mark on them so they knew they were in a fight and had to work for it - perhaps Iām too old fashioned or just dislike them too much
If you canāt get up for an old firm game or get your team up for an old firm game you have absolutely no place pulling on the rangers jersey
22 Apr 2018 09:42:01
Fraser52
What is good about players fighting in the dressing room after such a timid display on the park? Actually it really annoyed me the reactions from Halliday and Candeias and the apparent arguing in the dressing. Where was that passion on the park?
22 Apr 2018 09:45:36
I think we could have the best manager in the world and they would still struggle with this pile of garbage that he would have to manage, the board has got to find the funds required to turn around this mess that has been caused. At least 15 million for transfers, which hopefully this upcoming share issue can provide. no manager in there right mind will come here unless they have serious financial backing by the board. steve clarke has been mentioned, but it is easier to do well with the expectations at killie than it would be at rangers, i don't think FDB would be the correct choice either. I know people will disagree but i would plead with walter smith to come back for a few seasons. I guarantee if the board chapped his door and gave him serious backing i think he would return. He could take us back to where we should be. I know its not the best situation but i really can't see any other outstanding canditate. It needs to be someone who knows the dna of the club
22 Apr 2018 10:07:11
Arthur your picking my point up wrong or Iāve explained it badly
I donāt mind players fighting if they react to it the right way - it happens all the time and people outside the dressing room donāt hear about it - unlike last week
Having a bit of a clear the air situation even if it involves a scrap can resolve a lot of issues but the players need to react properly not like cowards and nobody should be going to the press with it
21 Apr 2018 17:24:18
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Nick Pope
21 Apr 2018 17:07:30
Well folks an interesting werkend. Hibs and Aberdeen win today so the ball firmly back in our own court tomorrow. They need to stand up and be counted and grow a pair to make sure we get the 3 points. I honestly hope i'm wrong but not confident that either manager or team have got it in them
21 Apr 2018 20:04:33
totally agree with the comment about them standing up to be counted, if they have any pride in playing for the Rangers it is definitely now that they need to show it. Murty said in his press conference the other day that he expects to come flying out of the traps tomorrow with aggression and pace, hope the players have got that message, because that was sadly lacking last week!
21 Apr 2018 21:15:12
The game against Hearts will reveal a lot about our players. I will be gutted if we don't see a big reaction and a performance to be proud of.
21 Apr 2018 15:38:00
Well the hibs performance and result todays shows what can be done with a good manager and a team who are fit motivated and get up and in their faces. We have an under 20 coach who really isn't good enough and a group of spinless never will be and hasbeen players. Oh i forgot we are ahead of the curve. You couldn't make it up.
21 Apr 2018 15:53:31
Do you genuinely believe that Celtic tried heir utmost to win that title today?
If they wanted to win the title today theyād have won it. They want to rub our faces in it next week.
21 Apr 2018 16:21:21
Whether they did or didn't try their utmost hibs have had a better manager work ethos and fifhting spirit than our lot all year. They have a more realustic chance of 2nd place than we do. How many points do you honestly think we will take from our last 5 games. I wouldn't bet on much more than 4.
21 Apr 2018 16:43:14
BearMode
The reason there is a potential title winning match at Celtic park next week is down to our inability to pick up points at Ibrox. There is no one to blame but ourselves for the situation we are in
21 Apr 2018 17:04:07
ArthurD spot on. Hibs were hungrier. Celtic NEVER lay down. Weāve dropped 15+ points to teams in the bottom 6? WE ARE TO BLAME!
21 Apr 2018 18:45:35
ArthurD.
I do actually realise that. Just let me have my moment of irrational football fan mentally awright šš
21 Apr 2018 21:03:09
exactly ArthurD. No point moaning about the situation because we have been left wide open to it by the shambles on and off the park.
22 Apr 2018 01:09:31
I think the previous managerial search leading to bread man and then last idiot was based purely on one thing and that was penny pinching. I hope we've learned from that and go all out for decent replacement or fans will revolt against board.
21 Apr 2018 14:44:04
So after all the pissing about by the police and SFA to avoid them winning the league against us, well surprise surprise. Any rangers player who can't give 100% next week to stop that should be shown the door straight away. Can we stop them? I highly doubt it to be honest.
21 Apr 2018 15:48:25
No doubt Murty will play the same team and tactics against Tim next Sunday? Damage limitation for him š”š¬š§
21 Apr 2018 16:12:06
If the board had an ounce of decency and respect for the fans murty shouldn't even be taking the game tomorrow never mind next week. Every time they open their mouth with their stupid statements we become more of a laughing stock.
21 Apr 2018 17:05:07
To be fair to the board a little, they do have to be seen sticking with the manager till the end of the season as they gave him it till then and would make us look even more of an embarrassment than we are already if thatās even possible
21 Apr 2018 14:40:19
So the senario that the spl wanted to avoid. Smeltic can win the league at porkhead against us.
If as a professional footballer that plays for Rangers if u cannot motivate yourself to go out and play at 100%, graft and fight for 90 minutes to stop them doing that. To do what the last 10 Rangers teams couldn't do beat your rivals! I beleive. I don't know why but i think we can do it.
21 Apr 2018 16:07:05
Not quite if both Rangers and Aberdeen lose this weekend do they not win it?
21 Apr 2018 13:12:37
Dylan McGeouch on a free transfer in the summer? Worth a shot?
21 Apr 2018 13:23:50
Absolute diehard Celtic/ IRA man
21 Apr 2018 13:28:28
Nah he had his chance when he jumped ship from us to the other side no thanks
21 Apr 2018 14:37:28
Couldn't care less who he supported, he would bring more than what most of the Rangers supporting players have offered so I'd take him
21 Apr 2018 17:06:31
No MCFEC the point is he wouldn't be interested.
21 Apr 2018 12:47:42
If all 11 players who started last week were dropped for their performance last week. What would your starting 11 for hearts game be?
21 Apr 2018 13:26:20
How about a good old fashioned kick up the ar5e and rip into the players, same 11 minus halliday different attitude
21 Apr 2018 13:45:45
Stmonkey
Surely Martin has to be dropped too? He was awful last week and has been average all season. If Murty has any balls he will also drop Candeias and Halliday for their outbursts. I would also be tempted to drop Murphy and Dorrans who go missing when it matters
21 Apr 2018 15:49:22
Arthur, martin, halliday, candeias should not even make match day squad
21 Apr 2018 16:08:24
Bgate
Couldnāt agree more they shouldnāt be anywhere near the squad tomorrow
21 Apr 2018 11:02:36
Just a point on the new kit supplier 'Hummel' we used to be sponsored by Admiral it wasntva oroblem when we were winning. I myself will by the full hummel tracksuit.
21 Apr 2018 21:00:49
As long as our club gets a good deal out of it then i'm cool with whoever supplies our kit. Does anyone know if we still have 32 red as our sponsers next year?
21 Apr 2018 09:54:07
Hi everyone, listen it's no good going on about last week's game that's done and dusted now. Let's focus on the next game team v Hearts guys any thoughts? Also some good news this week with the new kit deal let's be honest it's a good deal for Rangers so well done for that. There will be a new manager coming in that's a given so let's get behind Murty and the team for the last 5, is Alves fit is Bates fit? Windass back in I guess can we play 2 up top what do you think.
21 Apr 2018 11:17:11
Well said Robbie C. I posted earlier in the week that I think Cummings and Rossiter should start and that Morelos and Docherty be dropped to the bench. I would also start wee Holt. Morelos has been missing too many easy chances and Docherty has temporarily gone off the boil. It is essential we win well tomorrow and set ourselves up for the visit to the piggery the following weekend. I suppose grudgingly I'd like the unwashed to beat Hibs today and for Killie to thump Aberdeen. At least 2nd place would then be back on as a possibility. Lose today and we can forget about 2nd place.
21 Apr 2018 11:32:36
Anyone but Martin at CB heās absolutely AWFUL. Iād play Alces and Cardoso and push McCrorie into midfield with Docherty until the end of the season. Dorrans can't play in there heās to deep. Dorrans can fight it out for. place in the three behind Cummings, Morelos is missing to many to keep in the team
21 Apr 2018 11:54:48
Agreed LDM17! How about (4-1-3-2):
Foderingham or Alnwick; Tavernier, Alves, Cardoso, John; McCrorie; Dorrans, Holt or Rossiter, Murphy; Cummings, Windass
21 Apr 2018 12:26:08
I maybe wrong but is McCrorie not automatically banned for this game tmoz.
I'm sure I heard Tom Miller on Rtv says he is banned
21 Apr 2018 13:03:35
Mcrorie banned for the next Scottish cup game
21 Apr 2018 13:14:01
I think you might be right mate.
Fod, Tav, Alves, Cardoso, John, Doc, Rossiter, Murphy, Windass, Candeas, Cummings.
Ross McC comes into the midfield after suspension unless of course the team and all involved play well and we win.
21 Apr 2018 13:17:21
Rossiter should play in front of back four &play dorrans further forward, drop Morales and give Cummings a chance
21 Apr 2018 13:47:51
Iām sure you only miss the next game if your sent off for violent conduct so I think it will be the next Scottish cup game he will miss
21 Apr 2018 15:00:49
Gk alnwick, rb tav, lb john, cb alves, cardoso, cdm mcrorie, RM docherty, LM Murphy, cm dorrans, windlass, Morelos up top 442 4411
21 Apr 2018 18:18:11
Rossiter is our best defensive midfielder and should start tomorrow now he is fit. Dorrans can push forward then
21 Apr 2018 18:43:41
How can rossiter be are best midfielder no played still unproven
21 Apr 2018 09:26:07
Well guys, don't know if you recall the wee man was diagnosed in FEB with diabetes. good news he's stabilished enough to go on holiday for 3 weeks, bad news ill miss rest of the season. ill be honest the way i'm feeling about the team i think i'm glad.
You guys stay safe and keep believing.
21 Apr 2018 11:31:12
Enjoy your holiday and the time together mate š
21 Apr 2018 11:35:00
Excellent news mate, more to life than football although as you say might not be a bad thing, hope the wee fella has a blast
21 Apr 2018 13:10:00
Brilliant to hear some good news for a change. Enjoy the holiday!
21 Apr 2018 14:30:24
Superb to hear your great news mate! You guys have a wonderful time! You hope you guys have a fabulous holiday and great time together! Rangers will be here when you get back, family comes first mate! Take care!
21 Apr 2018 09:04:20
Guys, how long does it take to resolve an investigation, this Miller, Wallace situation should have been completed one way or another, as time is something we don't have just now, we needed to be fully focussed as a Club for this must win game with Hearts on Sunday. Again, it's another Ostrich situation at our Club, let's have the transparency that we're always promised.
21 Apr 2018 11:47:05
Investigation can take months in a work environment i reckon itll be a confidential clause and it'll be parted on mutual consensus, they won't be short of offers though
21 Apr 2018 07:59:22
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st April 2018
21 Apr 2018 07:10:21
Has anyone seen a black eye or thick lip on anyone in any of the pressers or news broadcasts or pictures in the paper? I haven't and deduce (as I don't have a source in the dressing room) that what went down was verbal. I would like to think that the players that did not make it onto the pitch, and some that did, showed their feelings, not for losing 4-0 but for a total lack of fight and if certain people cannot handle this then its them that should be shown the door. I'll say it again, if murty had subbed me with 5mins to go until HT then there would have been black eyes and thick lips for all to see.
21 Apr 2018 07:48:10
Halliday was lucky to stay on the pitch for 40 minutes even by his low standards he was utterly appalling. Incredible to think s certain individual on here who claims he knows more about the game than most on here championed for him to start then blamed Murty for playing him out of position for his woeful performance
21 Apr 2018 09:03:14
Halliday came off the bench against dundee last week and the game changed, mainly because that let Dorrans move further forward into his favored position that did not happen on Sunday he played with them all far too deep and who was on brown? No one is saying Halliday was having a good game just that martain was having a far worse game as was Mcrorie yet Halliday is getting singled out on this site and singled out for humiliation by our manager, arthutd, if you are happy for that to happen to one of your own then perhaps YOU'RE not one of OUR own!
21 Apr 2018 09:30:07
i don't like Halliday but why not change at half time. or earlier in the game. no sense giving someone else 5 mins. for me mcrorie should have played in DM role giving speed to CBs and covering when Tav and John go forward. He set out defensively which backfired dramatically
21 Apr 2018 09:41:04
I think a lot of people had their mind made up about Hallidays performance when the team line ups were read out. Not saying he did well at all but the guy is just another scapegoat and most of the team played with no heart or belief. Donāt have a clue what went on in the dressing room but letās be honest if any one of us were in there at full time there would have been hell on. I have a letter here asking me for Ā£1000 for 2 season tickets and while I will renew the whole club from top to bottom better smarten itās ideas up
21 Apr 2018 09:43:11
Personally I'm not a big fan of Halliday that doesn't mean I want rid of him I think he's an OK squad player but I must admit I was a bit surprised when I saw his name in the starting line up, saying that he wasn't having any worse a game than the majority of other players my question is why take him off with five mins to go, to have him walk across that pitch in front of a full crowd as if he was the culprit was plain and simply wrong what difference would five mins make speak to him at half time explain it's not working and allow him the respect that all our players should be shown as a manager or a boss you have to earn your employees respect once you do that they will fight tooth and nail for you
21 Apr 2018 10:06:21
I don't want Murty in for next year but i do want a good, strong manager that will not be affraid to sub when he feels the team needs it. doesn't matter if its at 40 mins or 60 mins. If the windass had come on and scored to make it 2-1 then we're back in the game for the 2nd half. The last 5 mins of the 1st half is always a great time to score. Forget the one of our own pish. Its about a good team playing well and well led by a strong technical manager
21 Apr 2018 10:28:59
Aye but pappy that didn't happen windas came on and done nothing for 50 mins. By one of our own I mean ANYONE with our famous blue jersey on. I wouldn't humiliate any one of them but it was far worse for Halliday who was blameless for both goals which came from wide, look at candyarse for the second before it even got to martin to set up nicely for them. Give blame where it is deserved. "one of our own pish" aye OK let's give them hell on Sunday eh pappy.
21 Apr 2018 11:32:26
Who cares if he is one of our own? Shouldn't make a difference in a professional environment. If it was the wrong thing to do then it was the wrong thing to do, regardless of if the player is a fan or not
21 Apr 2018 11:48:46
By one of our own I mean one of our own players. That said some players in the team will take it far worse than others, I swear its water off a ducks back.
21 Apr 2018 14:37:09
Letās face it the Halliday substitution made absolutely no difference with 5 minutes to go in the 1st half so Murty should have left it till halftime, I do feel a bit sorry for Halliday because in my opinion you could have taken anyone of our players off at that stage as we were all over the place and making no impact on the game whatsoever.
21 Apr 2018 23:43:49
I know it didn't end up making a difference on the day but all i mean is, with the right players and the right manager making a sub on the 40th minute might pay dividends against our biggest rivals. So the substitution at that time isn't a problem. Its the team and manager that are just not quite good enough, that's the problem
21 Apr 2018 02:17:59
When wee played the manky mob at ibrox the 3-2 game wee played a high pressing game. Wee dominated everywhere on the park just couldn't take our chances or finish them off. At hampden wee played a completely different game wee played a more defensive game
Against a team who is more betwr andmore
Fitter than us why change the way wee played wee tryed to catch them on the brake way fredo but it didn't happin. Wee shouldn't have changed wee ahould have played the same way at hampden what wee did at ibrox boyata was there for the taken as use all seen the first 15 mins a was at the game after that's it was dead. It was as if wee where playing real madrid or barcelona the way wee played wee wir scared. That shouldn't be happening, wee bring in players like dorrans etc to fight the midfield way brown but he did 1 challenge then shat it the rest ea the game that's not execptable if your a rangers player definitely isnt. Things must be changed next season more back bone and fight to try and get that lot off top spot and stop dominating scottish football!
21 Apr 2018 11:23:51
I believe Murty put Halliday in the team as he has a bit of dig, it backfired but ces't la vie. We have had a lot of bad results against them over the years, even in the good times, so let's move on and push for 2nd.
21 Apr 2018 01:45:19
Very, very intreresting article by Kris Boyd tonight. Gives insights into what goes on behind the scenes with the squad and Murty.
Claims Murty has no control over his team, is regularly told where to go during training.
Look his article up bears. Believe what you want to believe, but he's clearly communicating with people behind the scenes and what he says completely translates to what we see on the park!
21 Apr 2018 11:33:14
Had a look BearMode, and while it does make a few interesting points, the fact Boyd is obviously pally with Miller means it is always going to come from a slightly biased angle.
I also still don't buy the argument that it is simply a deflection tactic, i forget who the poster on here was but made a really valid point that it has not deflected anything, it has just compounded the sh*t feelings hanging over the club.
If Murty doesn't have the authority around the club it beggars belief that he was even thrown in there as surely that would have been known prior to him being kept on?
And if players really are telling him to eff off during training then we are going to have a hell of a lot of players we need to move on. Whatever they think of Murty on a personal level. if that's how they choose to conduct themselves it is a lack of respect for the club and what it stands for.
20 Apr 2018 22:20:43
So Quique Sanchez Flores sacked by Espanyol tonight - he would be a great appointment if we could afford it
