Rangers Banter Archive February 21 2019
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21 Feb 2019 20:02:36
VAR will eventually ruin our game and it’ll turn in to an event like NFL where everytime a player hits the deck it’ll be reviewed and contested.
Games and incident will be refereed umpteen times and who’s to say they will reach the correct verdict!
Our game is called the beautiful game as it ebbs and flows, with tackles and tactics! Goal line technology was a great introduction, immediate decision buzzed straight to the refs wrist! No ifs or buts about it!
VAR will be the beginning of a stop start game with lots of injuries ending with 8 men each!
My solution. full time referees! Ex player referees, grassroots referees. Promote refereeing as a career! Give proper training and education with employee benefits (wage, healthcare, the glamour of football etc)
21 Feb 2019 20:15:45
cant think of anyone who would be crazy enough to be a referee, certainly not a job i would want. however i do agree VAR would bring nothing but stop start to a game.
21 Feb 2019 22:26:36
It works perfectly well in rugby but they have professional referees and that's probably the difference.
21 Feb 2019 23:03:34
Not at all. Var can be reserved for goals/ off sides or red cards. It doesn’t have to be used all the time. They used it really well in the under 17s tournament you didn’t even. Price they were using it. And in the cup down in England it runs in the back ground while the game is playing and the ref is contacted if the notice something.
21 Feb 2019 19:10:52
So I am a protestant Rangers supporter. My wife is a catholic Celtic supporter. We don't have any problem with this. Neither do our families. Lots of others do! Their problem, never ours! Thing is we get offended by a minority of both sets of old firm fans actions. I detest being in Ibrox listening to idiots screaming sectarian abuse. She hates her fans doing the same. Most of the religious bigots haven't set foot in a church let alone have a basic understanding of the christian faith. I love nothing more than enjoying an old firm victory and having banter with my wife and inlaws. Far more important things in life than religious prejudice :) :)
21 Feb 2019 19:26:58
Hear hear. Protestants are more similar to Catholics than any other group in society. If these people are genuinely religious then they should feel a bond with their Christian brothers. That said I would assume a tiny fraction of those who sing the songs have ever been to church.
21 Feb 2019 21:09:39
I'd also assume they didn't go to school much either.
21 Feb 2019 21:27:32
Yes but there is also a lot worse going on the world. When did society become so sensitive that people are up in arms over songs etc? Get a life. I’ve had bigoted names threw at me in the past and I couldn’t give a monkeys. Too many folk jumping on a band wagon here.
21 Feb 2019 21:36:10
It’s often the small differences that cause the biggest problems. Celtic v Rangers, catholic v protestant, Scottish v English. We don’t have the same lack of tolerance for groups from further afield. It’s sad that it exists and it will take a long time to eradicate, possibly never. However, the more people speak up and point out that it’s unacceptable, the less it will happen and even that has to be a step in the right direction. Rivals not enemies.
22 Feb 2019 01:00:32
the people singing these songs need to remember/ realise SG is a catholic as are his kids so no doubt his wife and both their families also.
not to mention el buffalo, candeias and many others including treble winning captains and club legends.
its cringey and embarassing.
23 Feb 2019 01:00:24
So before catholic and Protestants what were the Scottish.
{Ed033's Note - Scota (where the name Scotland maybe from) came from Egypt originally.
21 Feb 2019 17:26:51
First thing first, no human being should ever be abused either physically or verbally by another human being, that said when you go to a football match, any football match, its going to happen. What difference does it make if you take abuse for liking other men or let's say a liking for sheep its still abuse is one OK and the other homophobic and therefor against the law. Do supporters of "wee teams" never shout abuse at the refs or opposition?
My point is is some types of fan abuse acceptable and others not or is it a zero approach?
P. S. the ce*tic fans sing brendan rogers' fenian army. Is that abuse?
21 Feb 2019 19:36:07
Mob mentality. People will do and say things in large groups that they wouldn't dream of doing on their own. I wonder if those who shout such drivel, cheer when out Catholic players score goals or have a great game.
21 Feb 2019 17:20:24
Sectarianism in football here will never ever change its so ingrained in our culture that ship has sailed I don't condone it I don't like it but reality is its here no one has come up with any workable plan to eradicate it.
21 Feb 2019 18:44:47
How many fenians do you think are in our team. my wife is catholic, if someone called her that i would ofcourse protect and defend her. in this day and age it is unacceptable, would you do it at work without escaping punishment of course not. 100% any abuse is unacceptable. will it stop i don't think so, however with a good majority by the sound of it on this forum seemingly against it maybe there is hope for the future.
22 Feb 2019 10:32:12
If the word f****n was substituted by the word rebel -in context of Irish history they mean exactly the same - would the goalposts be shifted to make rebel a word of offence?
22 Feb 2019 11:57:07
Am liking true Rangers fans thoughts on pointless, detestable bigotry in Scottish football but so far no plan of action. Would like to hear gers fans thoughts on eradication moving forward.
21 Feb 2019 17:06:38
ALL Rangers fans should boycott the cup game against Aberdeen!
If they want to fill their stadium let them as far as I am aware we still get half of their share, after SFA costs etc etc.
21 Feb 2019 17:14:00
Yep I'm sure these are the rules for cup games.
21 Feb 2019 17:27:05
Great idea, let's send our team upto pittodrie with no fans to back them in a qtr final🙃👍.
22 Feb 2019 16:52:38
Why boycott out of spite? grow up.
21 Feb 2019 15:32:09
I just read that Hearts are in for Halkett.
21 Feb 2019 15:04:25
Judging by what celtic sold moussa dembele for and bought edouard for, in their dembele dollars calculations, alfredo morelos is easily worth £25million! He's 3 times the striker edouard is and a better all round striker than dembele. So quite easy to work out what he'd be worth to us, in the transfer market!
21 Feb 2019 16:52:15
I am sorry, but he isn't as good as moussa, not in a million years. He has not turned uo in an meaningfull game . Although he clearly has potentail . Also moussa never got sent off every 4 weeks.
21 Feb 2019 17:00:26
Morelos was class last night, very clinical, but let's not forget that killie were playing with 10 men for 3/ 4 of the game. let's hope morelos can stay on the park and keep being clinical before we start throwing figures like that about coop. Kamara looks a real good player aswell. 👍.
21 Feb 2019 17:54:30
There's no doubt whatsoever that morelos is better than dembele.
21 Feb 2019 19:04:11
@celticeob I'd wager good money that dembele missed more games through injury than morelos has through suspension! Dembele is a good player but his number of goals weren't particularly impressive considering he played for a team that dominated the league in record breaking style.
21 Feb 2019 19:52:11
Alfie has much more to his game than Dembele. If he can sort out the petulance he would be worth a fortune.
21 Feb 2019 10:42:40
Cheers up Steve Clarke was being sung you would have to think it’s about time the garbage was stopped
As my old papa said to me when he gave me a Rangers scarf
Never disgrace these colours and they will never disgrace you.
Why do some morons drag our club down
Yes we are a unionist club, yes we have a strong Protestant history but it time for tolerance and respect for others
That’s what being a Protestant is about respect and tolerance of others
FFS move on.
21 Feb 2019 11:27:28
Well said William. it's totally embarrassing. We know Celtic do the same thing but we can't control that. We can control Rangers fans. Why can't we sing songs without being secterian. We have a fabulous support. Don't embarrass us.
21 Feb 2019 11:35:04
Hear HEar William.
21 Feb 2019 11:37:04
It does need to stop before we are held accountable. Applies to other teams as well - last week the Killie fans were singing "go home ya h&ns" and we all know about the Boyd abuse. Clarke fails to mention these mind you. Personally I think the Blue Order do need a better song book. hardly ever hear them singing follow follow or every other Saturday for example.
21 Feb 2019 12:02:58
What happened to Clarke was shocking however was he as vocal about it on Sunday after one of his players was abused by the Celtic support?
21 Feb 2019 12:16:03
We don’t need to give others the opportunity to target the club by having a minority of the fans still singing these songs. Would like supporters clubs also coming out and condemning this behaviour. We love our club and the majority of supporters follow the club without participating in this behaviour. let's move forward. let's not make ourself easy targets. Yes, other clubs do similar things but that does not make it right. I know a lot of people who will not take children to games because of this type of thing.
21 Feb 2019 12:37:44
Well said William, I come from a country that death followed sectarianism, it’s total madness and cowardly from wherever it comes from, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, we all have our morons, but Clark is no saint?
21 Feb 2019 13:06:06
Well spoken William!
21 Feb 2019 13:06:23
Ulsterman you are 100% on the money mate.
We need to be a forward thinking club and so do the fans
The dark days of sectarian violence need to be in the past.
It’s tough taking kids to watch the game when you know this BS is bubbling away under the surface
I want to take my kids to ibrox week in week out
Both my kids have catholic friends as do I
I would be well pissed off if they called them Fenian B
It’s not language we use in my house.
The unionist community has bigger fish to fry
In Scotland with SNP trying to split the uk up.
21 Feb 2019 13:51:14
listen to SG on this they had a beer after the match and not a peep about it. Guys a tool and sore loser. Definite red card too but there will be no apology.
21 Feb 2019 14:25:36
A lot of very sensible posts following William Ks text, it proves that most Rangers fans are not the sectarian idiots people try to say we are.
Personally I blame the Covenanters (Scottish settlers ) for all the troubles in NI, 😂 joking of course, as an Ulster Scot I’m proud of my blood.
21 Feb 2019 14:44:37
It's no only us for sure I work in a yard where most r celtic fans and I get called an orange b every day I'm no offended buy it il not say Wat I call them back but it's all in fun banter and it's a good laugh I still look forward to going to my work love the place.
21 Feb 2019 14:56:47
Shaft says let’s move forward but has 1690 after his name - irony bypass.
21 Feb 2019 15:47:29
Maybe that’s his locker number at work?
21 Feb 2019 17:33:03
another point to add to Clarke not mentioning the Boyd situation, the media will love to call us out but stoke the flames with stories like the barasic going to mass one a few weeks ago? they are implicit in all this too!
21 Feb 2019 19:12:03
I really think it's about time the club says there should be no political, religious and nation based association with the club. To say the club us a unionist club is ridiculous. These may have been the beliefs of those around when the club was set up but why should anyone follow that? I also find it funny when people talk about protestantism when it realates to football, let them sing Church of Scotland till I die. I would be surprised if even 10% of our fans are religious in any form.
This is a football club. I could not care less about the union, religion or the history of N ireland.
In all honesty I have felt ashamed and unwelcome on multiple occasions at Ibrox from the singing and chants.
21 Feb 2019 21:21:58
Huey
Calm down, it’s only a bit of fun, I know there’s a serious side to it and I certainly respect your righteous anger over the topics discussed. When I mentioned Covenanters coming to NI it was in jest, we have to get past this sectarian nonsense and why not with humour?
23 Feb 2019 00:17:11
sometimes when you hear a two step that's all there is.
22 Feb 2019 00:56:56
Its bang out off order on both counts and fir asking where was Clarke's defence of Boyd, where is Boyd's defence of Clarke? Both have spoken out themselves after the abuse they've taken! Maybe both should come out together and speak about it but it's a cancer off Scottish football and needs rid off . Few people saying it can't be stopped but if everyone made a decision to not be part of the mob singing and giving abuse, even if its 1 a week that stops then slowly but surely it will go, atleast at football matches, just my thoughts on it but I hate the whole thing for what it does to the reputation of our football .
21 Feb 2019 10:30:28
If Steve Clark claims he was abused in such a manner then why didn’t he bring it to the attention of the fourth official whom he was standing right beside nearly the whole match?, why if it was happening did the said official not also hear it and inform the stewards and/ or police? . Maybe Clark did, maybe the forth official did, maybe the stewards and police were informed, just covering all senarios here, but regardless of all that, and I am in no way defending any secterian abuse, anyone caught using it (and that includes towards Boyd) should be banned from football, who gives a rubbish that Chelsea saved him and his family from Scotland (I’m sure that was their intentions) . If he is as genuine as he tried to make out, as passionate to protect his family and so thankful to London then pack them all up and piss off back down there. I am finding it hard to accept his deflecting bs as truthful (not because the gers support are angels), because prior to the game he didn’t seem to care or have any problem with that kind of abuse even when directly involving his player and team when shouted from the dark side but right after a gubbin that's all he wants to talk about (how about some consistancy Clark, was that not another one of your rants) . The man is a joke and the quicker he gets the Celtic job the better.
21 Feb 2019 11:39:45
He is in a stinker of a mood cause his team got pumped. Nothing he said however is wrong. We have been caught with our pants down. simple. If u got caught out with another woman would it be awright cause your mate is also doing it. it's unacceptable in this day and age. We need to take a stance and sort it out. We are also singing the Billy boys again. .
21 Feb 2019 11:40:06
Chelsea fans are whiter than white! Did he really mean that? Maybe I'm being facetious but I think it was just all about having a dig at Rangers and their fans. On sunday he just wanted to talk about the football despite one of his own players being abused and struck with a coin! What a guy. I actually have a lot of respect for the guy as a coach. Shame he feels the need to pick and choose when he is offended by. Then again he does want to be the Celtic manager soon, best not to jeopardise that. Integrity all the way.
21 Feb 2019 14:25:31
As a gers fan who grew up in England I think Clarke must have had incredible blinkers if he believes that Chelsea fans are so well behaved. For the most part, and i'm going back to the 60's here, they have always had a terrible reputation especially away from home, like most of the London clubs. I too find it ironic that he never mentioned "the greatest fans in the world" and their behaviour at Kilmarnock last weekend!
21 Feb 2019 21:24:37
We have only his word that the abuse he claims to have recieved was secterian, I have not heard from anyone else present that they heard it, also so far the Rangers support who were there claim songs were sung and chants were made but not secterian. Unless someone can produce some evidence to back up his deflecting fairytails then why should I have to believe it (because he said so) . So let's aproach this from a different angle, the rangers support are innocent until proven guilty, if it turns out there is no believable evidence then we have to consider that this hate filled little man may be using his family and a very inflamitory issue to avoid discussing his teams destruction and his failings as a manager to stop it. It is not his first stupid rant and won’t be his last, people should remember this when judging the validity of his words.
22 Feb 2019 22:28:27
Total deflection Clarke’s team never had one shot on goal not one . two corners that’s it what a joke.
21 Feb 2019 09:57:23
I thought no way that's a sending off BUT watch it in slow-mo the goalie never looks at Kamara but he raises both arms, stretching, then drops his left arm straight into Kamara's coupon the right arm remains up. Kamara makes the most or worst of it but there is contact and having now watched like 10 times in slow motion it is definitely deliberate.
21 Feb 2019 11:24:00
Agree with you bluepete, at the time I didn’t think it was a red but now having seen it from a different angle that has been posted online this morning I think the keeper knew exactly what he was doing, red card all day long for me.
21 Feb 2019 13:40:13
I guess Steve Clarke has stopped watching English football as the abuse down is both verbal and physical is that what he wants for his children.
23 Feb 2019 00:14:02
The video showing it from the other angle, it is 100% red card. Prior to that i was a bit dubious but not now.
22 Feb 2019 22:29:00
Exactly macbow.
21 Feb 2019 08:39:34
Steve Clark,
I'm guessing there was no sectarian abuse while the Celtic support were wrecking the stand and throwing coins at his players on Sunday?
He made a general statement after that game about "bad behaviour" but
why wait till after the Rangers game to go off on one about bigotry and "glad his kids escaped this" etc? I only saw it on TV but never heard anything out of order. Anyone at the game pick up on anything outrageous?
21 Feb 2019 09:36:18
I was at the game and near the end of the game, sections of our supporters, were singing cheer up stevie clarke, ie. sad f****n b*****d with a rubbish football team. Also singing stevie clarke you're a w****r.
21 Feb 2019 09:55:29
This was Steve Clarke doing what good mangers do and take the focus completely off the fact his team were spanked out the cup 5-0, I wouldn’t take much notice, he has a job on his hands keeping Killie in 3rd, they are dropping like a stone.
21 Feb 2019 10:04:49
Why was there no media outrage when Boyd was subjected to sectarian abuse on Sunday by Celtic fans. There shouldn’t be any sectarian abuse towards any1 but why can the Scottish press not be even handed.
21 Feb 2019 11:05:07
Totally agree - Mr Clark has thrown his credibility out of the pram along with all his toys. He should have defended Boyd last week and condemned cfc sectarianism, cfc vandalism and cfc aggressive behaviour - the very fact that he did not complain to the media states that he is not too bothered by this behaviour unless it is blue behaviour.
21 Feb 2019 11:23:41
Let's say this first. If you have a problem with someone because of their religion, or the colour of their skin, what country they happened to be born in then please keep your vile opinions to yourself. Why do you feel the need to sing and shout about it? Please grow up. It's pathetic. It's also completely unnecessary to associate that nonsense with the beloved institution that is our great football club.
Steve Clarke was really quiet on Sunday wasn't he? Did he condemn his fellow Celtic supporters, did he call them disgusting, did he have a rant live on national tv about one of his own players being abused? Why not? Where was the witch hunt? Where was the trial by sportscene? It's laughable. He also claimed last night the officials decided the match! The young boy Brophy chose to dive in our box, he was past Worral who had his arm across him. His goalkeeper lifted his arms above his head, then brought his left arm down, put his elbow in Kamara's face and then pushed him away. What did he think he was doing? Imagine that was our keeper, the media would go nuts! This is all getting beyond a joke.
21 Feb 2019 08:08:12
So Stewart and Sutton (two of the muppets) have come out and backed Clarke over alleged sectarian abuse. Surprise, surprise. Didn't hear them coming out when Boyd was hit by a coin and abused? What bitter, twisted people they are along with Walker. As for last night, Morelos is different class. Given the crazy transfer fees down south and in Europe, he must be worth upwards of £20 million. Now for the sheep in the quarter finals.
21 Feb 2019 08:40:35
Spot on another demonstration of the media bias we suffer no mention of sectarian abuse boyd recieved ill bet the compliance officer looks at Kamara, obviously once she received instructions from Lawell.
21 Feb 2019 09:11:33
Just shows you how much Morelos is missed. Quality goals last night. Also thought Kamara was brilliant.
Re the abuse i think the fact that Boyd was struck with a coin and also called a fat orange b****** and for this to be largely ignored by all and sundry, and then for the likes of Sutton to come out and condemn what is essentially the same thing is an absolute and utter disgrace. Both incidences are equally wrong in my opinion and there is a dangerous train of thought here that laughs off one as just banter while the always offended are up in arms about the other. Disgusting!
21 Feb 2019 09:40:37
Just watched the highlights on Sportscene. Stewart condemned the sectarian abuse (no mention of Kris Boyd's abuse), said that Killie's goalkeeper shouldn't have been sent off and implied it was a penalty for Kilmarnock when Worrall pulled their player. Grudging praise for Morelos and no mention of our two disallowed goals and one that hit the bar. Great to have a neutral punter (not)!
21 Feb 2019 12:03:07
Stewart will never have a good word to say about us since he was sent packing by big Eck. Not really bothered by what he says anymore.
21 Feb 2019 14:33:55
Saw the highlights this morning, we attacked at pace, Kamara seemed to be involved in a lot of it, it was good to see compared to the slow build up, over pass it style of the last few weeks. What can you say about Alfie? what a player, just need the management to educate him about retaliation, and get him to laugh at defenders and then he'll really have the beating of them. Stewart is irrelevant with his biased views, i'd love to see him try and defend one of alfie's bustling runs!
21 Feb 2019 07:34:04
Can anyone explain the Steve Clarke MELTDOWN on Sky Sports last night? I was ar the game and sat behind the Killie dug out. I honestly didn't hear anything out of order being directed at him. He gave a recognition thumbs up when the stadium called him a *anker but that's about it.
21 Feb 2019 07:46:13
Clark is a bitter twisted hypocritical clown who obviously only hears sectarian chanting when we beat them, it's pathetic, can't wait till he gets brenda job and loses it completely 🇬🇧.
21 Feb 2019 07:46:55
He was given a rendition of cheer up Stevie Clarke
I think that is what he is bothered about.
21 Feb 2019 07:54:29
I'm assuming it's when the blue order started with the "cheer up Steve Clarke. " chant.
21 Feb 2019 08:08:26
If he was really bothered about it, why give the thumbs up in recognition. He really is twisted and should concentrate on managing his team. For me, it was all about teaching Killie a severe lesson on how how to win a football game. Fans were amazing and we showed Mr Clarke what RFC is all about. We ARE the people folks. 🇬🇧.
21 Feb 2019 09:06:21
It was the use of the term 'fenian', he objected to. As he said call him a ****er if you want but why does thee term 'fenian' need to be brought into it?
Its viewed by most Scots as sectarian and most grounds broadcast announcements saying sectarianism will not be tolerated.
Only in Scotland and only with certain teams is religious reference a factor in their songs.
21 Feb 2019 10:57:42
I remember as a kid singing that word and cringing. I still cringe when I hear it. I do sing that song but never with that word. I always say dirty I place of it.
21 Feb 2019 06:23:45
good performance last night from the lads but for jack to come out and said the team have answerd there critics is stupid.
This team will answer there critics when they start consitently winning games and not of the back of one game playing against ten men for most of the match.
21 Feb 2019 09:57:50
Agree Craig that’s small time from him.