Rangers Banter Archive August 12 2016

12 Aug 2016 22:14:03
Dodoo before miller tomorrow surely.

12 Aug 2016 23:26:40
really hope so. Miller cannot start anymore.

12 Aug 2016 23:26:40
really hope so. Miller cannot start anymore.

12 Aug 2016 23:40:01
I have a bad feeling that Miller will start!

13 Aug 2016 03:58:33
Miller simply cannot start at Den's. If MW doesn't see this. I will start to wonder.

13 Aug 2016 09:11:42
Is this a Kenny Miller haters site? Kenny Miller over the 3 periods he has played for us has given absolutely everything for us. He runs himself into the ground every game, puts guys ten years younger to shame and I'll be delighted when he takes up a coaching role at the club. Also will you all be slagging him when he pops up and nicks his compulsory goal against Celtic. I agree the lad dodoo deserves a run in the team but let's not be so quick to jump on millers back.

13 Aug 2016 09:32:40
Harsh on kenny a little guys, what a servant he's been, i would play kenny from the bench also but if he starts I have full faith in him, he's been superb for rangers, and always scores important goals.

13 Aug 2016 10:53:46
Listen, I have a lot of respect for Kenny but he's 38 for Christs sake! Wasn't up to leading the line in the Championship last year so how's he going to do it now?

13 Aug 2016 10:55:47
Not one person has "slagged" him either! People are debating whether Dodoo should start and the simple answer is yes, 100%!

13 Aug 2016 11:32:04
He scored over 20 goals last year, give the guy a break.

13 Aug 2016 11:32:04
He scored over 20 goals last year, give the guy a break.

13 Aug 2016 11:40:24
Are u starting to wonder AllanRFC lol.

12 Aug 2016 21:02:31
I think if we are to make an attempt at winning the premier league this year we really need to get this centre back in right away otherwise we are going to be playing catch up I think up front and the midfield we are OK but the clock is ticking we cannot afford any more slip ups thoughts fellow bears.

12 Aug 2016 21:17:56
Defender and striker needed defo.

12 Aug 2016 21:38:28
We need a C. B and striker - I don't know how many times that has been said now!

12 Aug 2016 21:58:27
I don't mean I'm fed up hearing it by the way, just amazed that everyone has been saying the same thing since last season and a defender and striker weren't our first signings?

12 Aug 2016 23:16:22
Warbs keeps saying that's what we need and still no 1 is brought in. if no one is brought in by the of transfer window Dave king has a lot to answer for.

12 Aug 2016 23:16:22
Warbs keeps saying that's what we need and still no 1 is brought in. if no one is brought in by the of transfer window Dave king has a lot to answer for.

12 Aug 2016 20:51:19
From my own personal point of view I'm not perturbed in the least that we didn't sign greg stewart or dom ball, quite a few bears on here think we've missed the boat not signing these 2 players but I'm certainly not one of them, both michael o'halloran and harry forrester play in a similar position to greg stewart and imo both are better than stewart, I've said on here for a while now that moh will be superb for us this season, just watch him go, regarding ball who I actually quite liked but I do agree ball was playing mostly as a defensive mid for us and we've now got both joey barton and jordan rossiter for that position who are tremendous players and streets ahead of ball so there's no way he would have played there, regarding the centre half position I'd like to think that we're trying to sign a far better and more experienced centre half than ball which would rule him out playing there for us, I agree with the fellow posters who stated that ball couldn't split the kiernan and wilson partnership last season so there was no reason for us trying to sign him.

12 Aug 2016 23:41:17
What are you basing your view that both MOH and Forrester are better than Stewart?

13 Aug 2016 09:44:38
Biffo316,my opinion that both moh and forrester are better than stewart is first and foremost based on our manager thinks so which is very important, trust warbs, o'halloran is faster than stewart and as I've stated until I'm blue in the face he has the ability to rip defenders apart and will imo be tremendous for us this season, forrester is also better than stewart as he'll score as many if not more goals than stewart and more skillful from what I've seen, I'll reverse your question to you biffo, what do you base on stewart being better than both moh and forrester?

12 Aug 2016 19:52:59
If anyone finds themselves bored with ten minutes to spare have a read of some of the eBay reviews for veet hair removal for men!

I spent a week in tears reading these in the Falklands! (a LOT of spare time! )

12 Aug 2016 21:09:40
Interesting post Rafbob. To be honest not sure I dare researching. My Mrs already thinks I'm up to no good on this site, that its a cover, and I am ogling the birds on the right.

12 Aug 2016 21:42:13
Rafbob i was just talking to somebody about this last week, stories of a guy ending up with his nuts in strawberry icecream lol.

12 Aug 2016 21:44:55
Haha, definitely my level.

I find it very funny, though someone disagrees. Must be more of a Gillette guy?

I know what your saying Fd; I'm confused with the variety of random pictures displayed on this forum sometimes.

Usually actors who have apparently died followed by a bent over cheerleader?

12 Aug 2016 21:53:43
Some of them are ridiculous and hilarious Stmonkey.

12 Aug 2016 15:00:31
i said in a recent post that MW would end up with egg on his face over Dominic Ball because he was sure he would get him, so he let lots of other possible CB targets go in the misguided assumption that Ball would be a dead cert, I STICK BY MY ORIGINAL POST
I think he hasmade a huge error of judgement here.

12 Aug 2016 16:08:33
wb - must have been a very good reason for MW (and staff) to think so positively, otherwise he would have looked elsewhere.

IMO I think Ball has been swayed by the coin, which is understandable - some players seek glory others seek gold, such is life.

Whatever the reason he has set his bar very low.

TBBaB.

12 Aug 2016 16:11:35
How has he got egg all over his face? Ball showed potential at DM but not much at CB. Ok I'm the semi he done great but I'm sure MW won't be losing any sleep over this.

12 Aug 2016 16:12:32
Did mark tell u this himself? i don't remember reading this.

12 Aug 2016 16:15:28
we hadn't actually contacted the player or the club so eggs not on warbs face but it will be if we don't get a good cb before the window closes.

12 Aug 2016 16:18:50
Who said mw wanted ball back? I'm sure if we wanted him we'd have him he was an average player who had a great game against that lot but so did everyone on that day! Ball for me isn't the cb we need. I wish him all the best but your talking absolute nonsense.

12 Aug 2016 16:42:05
MW clearly didn't want him badly enough mate or he would have got him before Rotherham snatched him.

12 Aug 2016 17:01:51
On the off chance the hat wanted him I'd imagine he wouldn't fancy his chances of being a starter here after last season. If it's to start games he wants then he made the best decision!

12 Aug 2016 17:08:23
Disagree 100% with the OP.

Last season Ball could not get a game at Centre Back for us ahead of Wilson or Kiernan. In the big games we used him as a holding midfielder to shield the defence.

This season we have Barton and Rossiter who can do this and Crooks to come back. For me Barton and Rossiter are streets ahead of Ball in this position, Crooks we have no idea as yet how he will do for us.

Ball has become like Beckenbauer over the Summer. He was an asset last year but was never going to be the answer at CB this season.

12 Aug 2016 17:32:13
Must have missed something, I don't recall MW or anyone else being certain we were getting Ball. I think the lad did a good job last season but was never convinced he was what we needed this season now we have better options for the DMF role. If he could not displace Kieran and Wilson in CD last season not sure he was right other than as a useful squad addiction.
Good luck to the lad.

12 Aug 2016 17:35:23
Ball became a fans favourite because of one good performance in the semi final . Other than that I for one thought he was no better than what we had . He couldn't split the partnership of Kiernan and Wilson in central defence . I think if MW wanted Ball he would've had him by now but we never even approached Spurs regarding the lad . Now one game doesn't make him a star no matter how much I enjoyed his performance that day he's never defender and CDM we have Barton and more importantly as I think the lad Rossiter with his engine covers that position better and let's Barton push forward!

12 Aug 2016 19:01:52
Ball never played at centre back last season. He played in a holding / defensive midfield role. I am not sure that we needed him, certainly we don't need him as a midfield player.

We need a decent quality centre back and a goal scorer. Personally I don't think we will get either because we don't have the money and the level of quality we need won't come cheap. Either we pick up someone on a free and if they are any good we will need to pay £15k a week. Same goes for a striker. Who within pedigree are we going to secure for free and on a low salary.

Let's hope that the case against Ashley and his cronies is proven in our favour because that is the only way we will any funds for the quality of player we want and desperately need!

12 Aug 2016 18:55:40
There is also the point that Ball went for an undisclosed fee. Perhaps MW wasnt able/ willing to offer a fee for ball.

12 Aug 2016 21:11:59
Spot on Westendger, liked Ball a lot and i am sure if he had played against Hibs in final we would not have lost 3, however he was never going to be the cb answer, good player but not some kinda superstar we should be making a major issue over.

12 Aug 2016 19:01:34
roll on September when all this transfer nonsense is finished and we know exactly who we've got for the 2 positions that we badly need addressed, from RVP to Danny Ings to Dom Ball and all the other names we've been linked with from taxi drivers, petrol stations and sightings in the Glasgow curry club and all the other reliable sources as much as it can be fun at times I'm just getting a bit fed up with it now and just want the season to get underway properly without all the speculation. well until January!

12 Aug 2016 13:59:05
Ball paraded at Rotherham after signing 3 year deal. I can only assume we were not interested as per many of the posts. Not the best CD and we have sufficient cover at DM. If he couldn't break up Kiernan and Wilson he obviously was not suitable for that position by MW.

12 Aug 2016 15:16:43
Good luck to Ball. He obviously felt it was a good move to further his career. Good luck to the lad.

12 Aug 2016 12:41:13
is it just possible Dom Balls gone for better wages, AND better places to play at?
Remember he has seen most of the stadiums in Scotland, many of which are ramshackle run down dumps and some have plastic pitches. Add to that, the normal away attendances are very often below 10,000 and often under 5,000 too, and have very poor atmosphere.
Its all very well trying to attract players to Ibrox and Murray park, but the reality of Scottish football is very different from first impressions?
Just thinking aloud that's all.
Otherwise perhaps Ball has very little ambitions, who knows.

12 Aug 2016 13:05:24
He has no chance of European football at Rotherham bill.

12 Aug 2016 13:30:57
Some would say the same about us if we don't bring in a new defender and striker.

12 Aug 2016 14:24:53
That's a fair shout bill. It's definitely a different perspective.

12 Aug 2016 14:40:28
our ambition was to be challenging this year and win it next year but many rangers fans including myself are not as patient as others and want to do the almost impossible of winning the title at first go because second is last.

12 Aug 2016 14:51:25
Ball played well against Celtic, but not as a centre back and we don't need players for the midfield now. My only concern is that we didn't have the money to bring him to Ibrox and if that is the case then we won't be able to sign the level of quality that we need for that centre back position. With a quality centre back we can challenge Celtic even with the forwards we have since I don't see someone like Stewart making a difference and the better quality players demand higher wages.

We will see over the next week to ten days whether we bring in any quality or whether it is a nondescript loanee or freebie that had no where else to go! Equally likely is that we don't sign anyone and will be told that the people we wanted just weren't available. Warburton will follow the Party Line and King will keep his money in his pocket!

12 Aug 2016 16:40:03
Good luck to Dom Ball I suppose he has his reasons for joining Rotherham I don't think we will miss him this season anyway.

12 Aug 2016 10:55:53
Wes

Hodson Kiernan Wilson Wallace

Rossiter

Barton

Ohalleron Niko McKay

Dodoo

Team for Saturday for me.

12 Aug 2016 12:49:41
For me harry forrester has done more than enought to deserve to be in that starting line up.
Only changes i would make would be him for MOH and Tav for Hodson.

12 Aug 2016 12:54:42
MOH has to play for me as he offers something different, Pace.

12 Aug 2016 14:31:27
I woul hav tav on, and forrester for mckay.

12 Aug 2016 14:54:31
Team wise, I would go with Tav at full back and Forrester for McKay. Rossiter and Barton would be the mainstays of the defensive midfield.

12 Aug 2016 14:36:51
Hodson must get in ahead of Tav, especially away from home. At home we can play more free so let Tav bomb down the wing but away the grounds are tighter and Hodson can defend better. MOH should be given a chance however a bit like my last point, smaller pitch means tighter therefore no room for his pace down the wing and therefore Harry would be better suited.

12 Aug 2016 09:17:26
We really must have zero money to spend on transfers. Ball was available and surely was worth spending a bit of money on. he was outstanding in the old firm game and 1 for the future. could only get better imo. disappointed Stubbs got him also.

12 Aug 2016 09:21:20
OR We didn't want him?! we have 2 players that ARE CDM's. we have 3 box to box midfielders and we have 3 attacking mids. why would we want ball?! He wasn't a CB, he couldn't shift Kiernan and Wilson.

12 Aug 2016 11:07:16
Completely relieved with them getting Ball. Great player, just not a CB.

All that's needed now is for Stewart to go to Birmingham or QPR and that'll be perfect.

Don't need either of them.

12 Aug 2016 13:17:44
Ball wasn't the answer- but MW clearly wanted him.

12 Aug 2016 11:47:55
Dont think Ball was that great a player in all honesty. Yes he maybe done well in a few games last season but also looked shaky in a few. Definitely no room in this years squad for him. Rotherham can have him.

12 Aug 2016 09:12:47
I'm of the option that we are strong going forward and a center back must take priority. I'm not a fan of bringing players back, Ferguson, Baxter etc never the same but doesn't look like we are spending any money so and obvious proven player for me is Bougherra. Gutted when we lost Cuellar after a few games watching Bougherra I forgot about Carlos . Game not a fan of bringing people back but desperate times and so no.

12 Aug 2016 11:25:03
I would tak bougy bak in a second also think that we should put in for big kyle bartley got a year left on his contract I think and could get him for 1 million which would definitely be worth it him and big bougy at the back would be solid.

cant sere any of that happening but just a thought.

12 Aug 2016 13:35:28
If it was going to happen it would have by now- after all he issued a come and get me plea months ago.

12 Aug 2016 14:49:17
am I right in saying the guy still hasn't got a club?
why can't we go get bouggy as i'm sure he won't ask too much in wages at 33. and at 33 he is still a lot fitter than hill great passer of the ball and no nonsense defending.

12 Aug 2016 06:46:55
Maybe I'm a little impatient guys but all I keep hearing is that signings will hopefully be made in next few days, then we reach the weekend and it's if it's not before the Dundee game then it will be early next week, I know it takes time getting all the technicalities ironed out but surely we could have had at least one over the line by now! 🔴⚪️🔵.