Rangers Banter Archive March 17 2019

17 Mar 2019 16:26:10
For those of you who feel we have not improved this season here are some facts comparing this league season with last one.
Loss rate 13% (was 26%)
Goal scored average 2.2 (was 2)
Goals against rate 0.7 (was 1.3)
Clean sheets 40.7% (was 30.3)

17 Mar 2019 17:06:54
😂😂😂 good effort bizzmy, can't believe there are still people still trying to prove that we have progressed. We are no nearer to winning the league or a trophy than we were last year👍.

17 Mar 2019 17:53:07
Buying players for different positions ain't going to improve results We have already outspent everyone in that league this year bar Celtic and we have come short!

Gerrard will be judged next year We have as a whole improved from last year then again Celtic were a better team the previous year and had they have played like that this year the league would've been sewn up by now!

Too many draws from us it has to be said In the playing side we have improved but there is no killer instinct and lots of wasted chances Not clinical in the slightest!

So 2nd place and a run in Europa was decent and here is people thinking that we were probably playing too much games than the squad can cope with but Europe is long gone and we still continue to struggle getting a great consistency of wins domestically

Albeit we were about 18games unbeaten but we draw far too many, in my eyes that is as bad as a defeat!

Plus points (above) and also being able to beat Celtic but we need to be far more clinical in going into those games

I really do feel for Gerrard next season as a repeat of this he will be out a job! I don't think he will get sacked he will walk!

Need to be looking at the referees decisions aswell here Its been shocking at times You feel there in a playground joining in Referees are far from being professional

It's time to buckle up and just concentrate on our results and **** the rest of them It's true they don't like us!

17 Mar 2019 17:57:59
I feel we have progressed in that we have a much better squad with a strong bench too. Several injuries haven't helped but what really hurts is our inconsistency and failure to put games to bed. Just look at the Tic today, played crap but nicked it, we don't seem to be able to do that. Confidence seems a bit low and if SG can build this up we will improve significantly.

17 Mar 2019 18:04:06
Come short against Aberdeen, Hibs and Kilmarnock maybe 2nd place but we haven't been much better than those teams Playing wise yes but our results are far from impressive

The sheep have knocked us out 2 cups and stats don't lie vs Aberdeen Rangers 1 Draw 2 Aberdeen 3

Hibs

Rangers 0 Draws 3 Hibs 0

Kilmarnock

Rangers 1 Draw 2 Kilmarnock 1

Hardly dominance in it?!

17 Mar 2019 18:06:35
The statistics are not an accurate reflection. No trophies won in 3 years of playing in the top league. Beaten twice by a team with far less resources than us in both cups and an inability to beat teams like Kilmarnock and Hibs in the league. Gerrard is fortunate that we reached the group stages of the europa league as that has bought him some time. All I would say that the finances are probably healthier since he took over however we aren’t as improved as some seem to think.

17 Mar 2019 18:26:08
The stats are accurate, any interpretation of them may not be!

17 Mar 2019 19:31:27
Bizzmy, all we have done is turn defeats into draws, that's the difference between this team and last seasons team. Its not good enough if you want to win titles. Its hardly a reason to shout we have progressed. We are no nearer to winning titles. You can sugar coat it all you like with meaningless stats, the stats that matter say we are not good enough👍.

17 Mar 2019 20:05:31
We have beat Killie twice this season - 3.1 and 5.0.

17 Mar 2019 21:34:10
My point is that we have progressed. Not as far as I would like obviously, with some very indifferent form at times mixed with some excellent displays. But I do feel as a whole club we are in a much better place. Better squad, decent financial results, improved facilities, stronger youth set-up, high profile manager who can attract good players. If SG get's the team playing consistently and as he wants them to then we will challenge the manky mob and will win silverware over the coming seasons.

18 Mar 2019 01:05:43
Your stats for last season are not comparable with this season because you have factored in 30 games this season and 38 games last season. So why don't you revisit this at the end of the season.

18 Mar 2019 06:03:43
By using rate I have accommodated the number of games.

18 Mar 2019 07:31:30
By matter of definition bizzy yes turning defeats into draws or conceding 1 goal a game instead of 2 is technically progress. But do you think stevie G and the board sat down at the start of the season and said "if we are 4 points better off, out both cups and continually failing to beat the better spl teams we will be happy with that and that will be real progress, considering we have spent over 10mil and paying a fortune for davis and defoe" do you think the board consider this as progress? Nah mate we have fell well short. We are no nearer to winning a trophy than we were last year. Europe has bought stevie G an extra season. The only stats that matter are the score at the end of the game and the points tally on the table, both of them stats say we are not good enough or anywhere near winning a trophy and that is not an acceptable measure of progress👍.

18 Mar 2019 14:21:27
I totally agree that we have not improved as much as we would all have wanted. A more consistent team would be right on their tail pushing for the title, but this is not a one step journey, it will take time.

18 Mar 2019 14:26:42
Bizzmy

Read my post they are not an accurate reflection!

18 Mar 2019 16:05:55
bizzmybox. how do you know your in a better financial position. results not out and more borrowing in February from close brothers and court settlement due in April to sports direct.

18 Mar 2019 18:25:21
I was referring to the article on rangers news on 25th feb. I am not an accountant so can't vouch for any smoke and mirrors involved, but they quoted 'As a result of the above, the Club posted an overall profit for the period of £5.2m'.

18 Mar 2019 18:27:21
I read you post again Arthur, and I stand by the stats I posted. This years was based on 30 game average, last years on 38 game average.

17 Mar 2019 15:33:34
If SG is under pressure to win a trophy next season then he will be reluctant to give youth a chance. SG could be tempted to go for players at the end of their career or promising loans from some of the bigger clubs in England. Why not take a chance on some of our young players. Ease them in gently, bring them on as subs give them a chance to prove themselves. Rangers will always be a buying club but we must produce our own players to maintain our viability. The pressure will be on Rangers next season but then it always is.

17 Mar 2019 15:49:18
Stevie G says he needs 6 players to make a difference, I wonder what positions he is talking about?

17 Mar 2019 16:11:57
Lb, rb, CH, rw, no10,striker.

17 Mar 2019 16:26:53
i am sure you lot were saying the exact same things when mccoist had you down in the lower essence of scottish football. you just never learn. happy st patricks day to all.

17 Mar 2019 17:39:56
Ha ha ha! Had to laugh there robroy.
I think you meant the lower echelons of scottish football mate.
Echelons = a level or rank in an organization, a profession, or society.
Nice try though! Lol
Happy st paddys day.

17 Mar 2019 17:55:09
Stevie G can't keep on using excuses that he needs this and that as players He's already adopted a better team than the rest and slso outspent them (bar Celtic)

17 Mar 2019 21:01:45
yogi thanks for correcting my wee slip of description
but you need to understand i was still shaking after our 96 minute winner. but honestly i hope your man gets his act together and force our board to think there is a challenge and spend his stashed millions and see were we can go. hopefully no were near the brotherhood of CLOSE. hh.

18 Mar 2019 06:40:06
No WHERE near.
Sorry to have to school you again robroy.
You must still be shaking after your 96th minute winner I guess?
No thanks necessary.

17 Mar 2019 08:57:53
Think in the summer there will be a clear out, Herrera, alnwick maybe foderingham, Macaulay, Wirral goes back, maybe Flannigan, Holt, dodoo, coulibaly, probably hardie and dorrans heard he's done that's ten already. there is guys whom have played a lot of games who in my opinion have came up short of standard, we know who they are maybe time to be honest and move them on! How Mitch would this save in wages for these players? Don't really want to bring in loads of players but wee need about 6 or 7 good players brought in and back them up with youths.

17 Mar 2019 09:22:07
We should never have allowed "THE GINGER RAMOS", big david bates, to leave rangers. Most definitely a big mistake, as he's playing superb for hamburg and was actually playing well for us before he went off injured, in our 3-2 defeat to celtic at ibrox, last season. I honestly see big david bates and scott mckenna, being the centre half pairing for scotland, for many years to come. Both old fashioned, no nonsense centre halfs, of the alex mcleish mould! We should have given bates the extra 2k a week, to stay! It would have been money well spent.

17 Mar 2019 10:51:04
I take it he has learned how to pass to someone in his own team at Hamburg?

His passing was awful super. Good luck to the lad and from what I was told at the time Hamburg offered him a great deal which we couldn’t have matched.

17 Mar 2019 10:52:51
Bates n mckenna jeezo perish the thought.

17 Mar 2019 10:55:52
Bates wanted to leave.

17 Mar 2019 11:09:25
Supercooper

Bates is gone and it’s pointless talking about him. I think we should go for Shinnie as he is a better spfl player than the likes of coulibaly, Kamara and Holt. Need a new captain and creative midfielder and a few guys who have the guts to play we the going gets tough and not hide.

17 Mar 2019 12:09:47
As fans we just have to accept we are not good enough. We need a team with enough winners in it get through periods like the current one. The last 3 managers have suffered from this problem and also the inability to turn decent football and dominant possession into wins. This requires real quality in the form of mentality and ability to deliver when it matters.

Our current squad even though they are decent players, do not have the mentality to turn up for more than half the games in a season. This is why we will not win the league with this squad.

17 Mar 2019 12:55:33
I don't think bates would have made any difference to this team. 👍.

17 Mar 2019 12:57:49
Hate that ginger ramos nonsense. Sergio ramos can actually play a bit, bates made a simple 10 yard pass look difficult. Hslf decent defender but similar to all the other lumps of wood scotland produces at ch. If u csn head a ball and win a few tackles your apparently a good cb it's nonsense. The games changed your cb needs to be able to bring the ball out.

17 Mar 2019 13:12:00
Tend to agree with you coldco re bates.
Fb u some bates up perfectly.
Danny Wilson was a far better ch than bates, but chose to go to USA for family reasons, fair play to him.

17 Mar 2019 14:14:38
The Ginger Ramos 😂😂😂😂😂😂 BEHAVE. Absolutely crazy stuff. He was offered what he was worth. He said NO. I’d have Goldson and Katic before him.

17 Mar 2019 14:23:29
I know danny wilson personally Jboy21 and i can assure you danny wilson didn't leave rangers and go to america for family reasons! Firstly danny wilson was a good footballing centre half. The reason danny left rangers, was because the rangers board went back on their word by originally offering danny a contract which remained on the table until mark allen was appointed. Then it was briskly taken off the table,
and not another contract was put to wilson and his reps! Danny who's very friendly with the greatest ranger ever, john greig, told greig what had happened and why he was leaving rangers, but also told greig his first choice was to stay! Greig even thought it was shocking the way members of our board, instructed by mark allen of course, had treated danny wilson! These are 100% facts to the danny wilson to america transfer! There you have it Jboy21.

17 Mar 2019 15:08:50
All this pining after Wilson and Bates. Have a word with yourselves. Hardly part of a wonderfully successful side where they?

17 Mar 2019 15:35:58
Coop how many times have you said "I can assure you" "100%" "fact" "I firmly believe" etc and its turned out to be inaccurate. I bet wilson is on more money out there and his family have a better life otherwise he would have stayed in scotland cause let's face it hearts hibs aberdeen etc would have had him or a eng champ team. So every chance he did go to america for family / financial reasons 👍.

17 Mar 2019 15:36:41
Why would mark Allen have to 'instruct' members of the board to do anything? Danny Wilson was a talented lad as a youngster who developed into a bag average CH.

17 Mar 2019 15:56:19
SC11 you are absolutely crackers. Danny Wilson and THE GINGER RAMOS struggled in the Championship and the Premier League. Gerrard has chopped and changed his back 4 all season. That’s part of the problem! The other part of the problem is he is tactically naive and his subs rarely make an impact. Better players will help but sometimes in football you need to give up on style and grind a result out, his team can’t do that because he often sticks with the same players and formation. Will he improve? Yes but so might that mob with a few additions and a new Manager.

17 Mar 2019 16:51:58
Coldo, i'm relatively comfortable mate, that you don't believe me regarding danny wilson and how it came about he left rangers for the states. What i'm asking you to do is sift in to any good contacts you might have, to find out if what i'm telling you is cosha my friend. I know danny and the family very well and i guarantee you that's what happened.

17 Mar 2019 17:14:45
We all know the contract was taking off the table. Rangers didn't want him so instead of signing for another spl team he chose to go to the usa and make good money and have a better life for his family. I knew that and I don't have contacts👍.

17 Mar 2019 17:51:01
Did you know what he told his very good friend john greig also?

17 Mar 2019 18:20:25
Snell. I did not say resign Wilson, just said my opinion a better player than bates.

17 Mar 2019 18:22:30
Coldco, my understanding of Wilson contract is you are correct.

18 Mar 2019 08:13:34
Remem Berkshire Eil son was another one of coops heroes a couple of years back. A few decent games in a row and was a future scotl and captain🙈.

18 Mar 2019 19:40:11
Danny Wilson even lol. How did I miss that 😂😂😂.

17 Mar 2019 08:09:20
After going to the game yesterday. Kilmarnock has one chance through a goal keeping and defensive error and took it .

We need to understand Kilmarnock are a club if they get a point against Rangers at Ibrox that is like them winning a cup final .

What I'm more worried about is the lack of players we have who have the balls to simply run at a player, take there man on, travel with the ball, beat a man .

The only good thing about yesterday was that the sheep are as equally rotten as we are .

I don't know if it's there but if it is in my opinion money should be spent on quality not quantity. A creative midfielder would be top of my shopping list as all our midfielders pretty much do the same job . Morelos is a talent no doubt but we are far too reliant on him and he might not be there next year so another quality striker . Centrehalf and a winger . Candieas works hard but that's not enough to inconsistent for me . That's four quality players if the money is there .

I've played in teams if you put three or four good players in an average team it gives players around them firstly confidence and gets the best out of guys who are not as gifted playing along side good players .

You need to want it as well ( success ) that isn't something you can teach but for success you need belief. Our manager can't strip Tavernier of the armband at this point in the season would be crazy if a bid comes in I would sell him having said that who do you give the armband too because I'm struggling . Others Rangers men will say McGregor but personally I like my captains to be outfield players .

This is long winded I'm just frustrated with another season . Had a conversation with my dad and said all the successful teams he remembers had a partnership upfront I said to him it's not really the done thing anymore he asked why? Which I thought was a fair question.

17 Mar 2019 08:33:48
I've always wondered how Hardie would have fared up front alongside Morelos. I guess we'll never know now.

17 Mar 2019 08:49:07
Well what I will say if we don’t have a lot of money too spend on quality I was talking about your going to have to tap into your youth set up . The coaching staff see these boys at least on a weekly basis I’d imagine.

You do need to be good enough but you need to be giving and opportunity. To me that’s not coming off the bench with 7mins to play . It’s telling boys like your McCroires and Hardies you will start the next two games make sure I can’t drop you after that .

17 Mar 2019 08:57:39
Spend spend spend. We need to accept we can’t afford quality players, well not established quality. Defoe and Davis are finished that why their here see out their days at a big club.
The club needs to invest heavily in young hungry players W they had that chance coming up through the league s and blew it big time again wasting money on a lot of crap and by their best players.
Chasing Celtic is not helping the youth policy. Mcrorie bench Docherty loaned Hardie loaned just a few examples of players who should be the backbone of what the club is aiming to achieve. a team full off who will fight for the shirt.

17 Mar 2019 15:58:29
Another Bear McCrorie was OUTSTANDING for 4/ 5 games and got cast aside for nothing!

17 Mar 2019 17:58:31
I agree with you L17 he had an absolute blunder against them and hasn’t played sins after Gerrard sayingbrhis boys going to be a future captain? Strange one for me but he changed the time the next game against Kilmarnock to accommodate Defoe and Davis . What is it they say don’t change a winning team and don’t fix what not broken?

17 Mar 2019 03:34:06
was reading on bbc that murphy might be back before the end but dorrans is still out. i thought dorrans would be a player for us but it doesn't look like he will be fit enough to contribute before his contrct runs out. only one year left and likely won't start the season right away. frustrating that we've had too many broken players on wages the past few seasons.

17 Mar 2019 07:18:30
Murphy is busting a gut apparently but I think Dorrans is maybe finished. I hope not butvuts a long time out the game.

17 Mar 2019 08:00:03
This is what happens when you shop at Poundland. The players you can afford are usually sub par or have defects.

17 Mar 2019 08:34:37
How much are things in Poundland?

17 Mar 2019 11:16:25
Don’t knock Poundland you can get some great deals there.

17 Mar 2019 13:03:25
Is that where you go to buy your Tena Ladies Rodgers?