21 Dec 2021 09:09:43
All sports events in wales now being played behind closed door, how long before we follow suit? I reckon it won't be long.
21 Dec 2021 09:29:58
Hopefully not as will hit us hard financially again. don't see any reason to. Yes positive cases are high but hopsital admisssions and death are still the same.
21 Dec 2021 09:55:34
Yes but the problem I see is that so many people who are positive are self isolating or off work so we won’t need a lock down there just won’t be anyone left to open pubs or firemen to put fires out or police to arrest anyone, I’ve no idea where we go from here as other mutations will come down the line vax is helping to keep admissions down, for me I’ll go out to pubs and football as long as it’s allowed but I’ll take precautions and be sensible.
21 Dec 2021 10:15:56
They say that the rate of c.v. doubles everyday and one person is likely to infect 4 or 5 people so by reducing social gatherings such pubs, clubs, household meetings, sporting events etc this will reduce the rate of c.v.. This will be the strategy of the governments, not that I agree or disagree with certain aspects but I think its naive of people to dismiss the possibility of a lockdown or severe restrictions on social gathering.
21 Dec 2021 10:20:38
Easier said than done twacoos boozers around ibrox are absolutely packed in. And that's a very fair point i did not think of it that way to be fair. Bring back the furlough 😂.
21 Dec 2021 10:33:45
Football isn't that important in the grand scale of things.
21 Dec 2021 10:51:05
Hospitalisation are at July level! And deaths are also less! c.v. is irrelevant as long as both stay low.
21 Dec 2021 11:05:37
Whole of the uk infected for new year then coldo?
21 Dec 2021 11:16:32
They certainly painted a bleak picture on the radio this morning paul and if you read the news you'll see the figures and a lot of events being cancelled. How would I know if the whole of the uk will be infected paul? Whether the figures are accurate or not is another matter.
21 Dec 2021 11:48:14
Scaremongering
2.5 million boostered in Scotland.
Time to leave the unvaxxed behind.
21 Dec 2021 12:03:22
There's an announcement from government on this at 2:30pm today. Reckon we will see a return to reduced numbers or no fans until winter the break.
21 Dec 2021 12:12:17
Just cause you said its doubling everyday. This will hit us hard financually if they take the option of no fans again. If anytbing hopefully just a circuit breaker. Really feel for hospitality industry just now they would have been very much looking forward to and a lot banking on a busy xmas period.
21 Dec 2021 12:18:27
Lockdown is not the answer hasn’t worked yet or we wouldn’t be back to talking about lockdowns again also what was the point of the vax really in the grand scheme of things Unfortunately we need to learn to live with it.
21 Dec 2021 12:26:18
But we can't wait until the hospitals start filling up, because then we too late.
21 Dec 2021 12:50:06
Barrowlad; how can you say C.V. is irrelevant? people who get it are still sick and loads are off work or self isolating the country will slowly grind to a halt with no staff it’s not just about hospital admissions people are still ill.
21 Dec 2021 13:15:33
Twacoos once you have had it you should be basically immune once your 10 day isolation is up. there's a 99.7 survival rate IF you happen to get it. we cannot live our lives with going into constant lock down. how long do we continue with lockdowns for? 20 or 30 years? What if this never goes away now like the flu? Bar things actually closing like boozers and stuff. For they way the gov hav carried on xmas parties etc last year i don't know anybody yet that will conform to staying home and locking down. Party season as normal.
21 Dec 2021 13:19:35
I'm only quoting what they are saying paul. They did seriously over estimate the last time however all the information that they are feeding us now is leading to another lockdown or significant social gathering restrictions. Social gathering restrictions and lockdowns did work before because the rate of c.v. slowed and confirmed cases reduced but it won't cure the problem. I can't understand why anyone would say CV is irrelevant. The point of the vax is to reduce your chance of becoming seriously unwell.
21 Dec 2021 13:43:26
Twacoo it's the having to isolate that's causing havoc nit C.V. how many dead today? How many in hospital?
21 Dec 2021 13:44:53
Big Mary it's currently at the same survival rate as flu! Didn't see you on here then before C.V.
21 Dec 2021 14:08:23
500 at game ob boxing day and going forward.
21 Dec 2021 15:14:51
if we go back to 500 or zero Fans, we and other clubs can make some revenue via our TV set up, £10 per person per game home and away would help somewhat.
21 Dec 2021 15:16:02
I was barrowlad, you are wrong.
21 Dec 2021 15:17:41
Maybe all you clowns will think differently once, like me, someone you know or love dies from C.V., your attitude stinks, the lag between cases and hospitalisation from any variant of this is 2-3 weeks so numbers just now aren't a true reflection, the population left unchecked would spread this 4x faster spreading variant to such numbers that if half a million were infected at once then 5000-10000 people or 1-2 percent of cases which need hospital treatment would mean hospitals couldn't cope so people would be left dying in corridors like at the start of this or other operations, treatments would be completely stopped, how would you feel if your dad, brother etc lost their life through missing cancer treatment because of the arrogance of people who can't follow some basic rules for 3 or 4 weeks? And it is not of the same severity as flu, the vax was not so much to prevent people catching it although it helps on that front, but to prevent serious sickness or death, without it there would've been far more deaths by now or are people too stupid to realise it, its incredible the amount of people who all of a sudden think they have degrees in medicine, and yes before you say anything, I have-with regards to the football we will only miss out on 1 home game as it stands, the tickets are already sold so hospitality, catering etc is all we will miss out on, it won't cripple us and on the park we have our 2 toughest away games behind closed doors which is another plus.
21 Dec 2021 15:22:13
That will be b team crowds cancelled.
21 Dec 2021 15:27:56
Up to 12th December:-
11.2% increase in cases due to Omicron.
Hospital admissions fell from 12% to 3%
ICU admissions decreased by 14.3%
R number between 0.9-1.1. Hardly out of control, tsunami.
We now need to learn to live with it.
Play CV roulette - get vaxxed / don't get vaxxed and take your chance on how ill you become. But we need to let normality resume.
Over 4.3 million had the first dose.
Just under 4 million had the second dose.
Over 2.5 million boostered.
Time to live and let live.
21 Dec 2021 15:30:29
It's been over a month since this variant appeared!
21 Dec 2021 15:34:51
Mr Potato head, explain how it’s time to leave the Unvaxed behind? What are u basing this on? So you I’m assuming are vaxed? You have had three therefor you should be safe from C.V. that’s what we were told on Jab one 15m jabs to freedom? Now we’ve had 2 and 3? And with 4 5 and 6 on the way for the omicron variant you can get those and continue to be protected? But You can still catch and pass the same as an unvaxed person but you blame them that we are still no further forward it’s idiotic? Are you keen on the segregation of society? We’ve seen this played out in history before it started the same way! Little by little and folk like yourself aid the agenda!
21 Dec 2021 15:37:59
Jackboy55 this variant and the current death rate is at the same levels as pre C.V. for flu! Government's own source! Go check ONS yourself for hospitalisation and deaths! Death is never funny! But if your waiting for a cure all pill? you have a long wait and many many years of lockdowns to come!
21 Dec 2021 15:58:02
I'm currently 90% safe from CV if I catch it due to being vaxxed and have no ( thankfully ) underlying health issues, R1.
I still wear a mask.
Still use hand sanitiser every time I'm out.
Good personnel hygiene.
The wife still wipes down every item of shopping when she returns home.
So shouldn't I not be allowed to go about my daily business when I'm taking the above precautions?
Divisions have already happened in society with those that wish to go about there daily basis by following guidelines and those that have a "don't care" attitude.
21 Dec 2021 16:14:54
Barrowlad this variant is 1 month old, come back on in a month and tell me the figures then compared to flu and we will see.
21 Dec 2021 16:25:58
Great post jackboy55. Sorry for your loss.
21 Dec 2021 16:46:22
You claimed the variant will take 2 to 3 weeks to show hospitalisation? Over a month now! And I will be here.
21 Dec 2021 17:10:43
Your Choice MPH to do all of the things you mention, but as I asked you before how do you justify leaving the unvaxed behind? What’s this based on? It doesn’t make any sense surely if your 90% protected (which is BS) they proved that with the first two jabs that were quoted at 95% plus effective that waned in 4-6 months to a figured that’s debated, but if you are 90% protected why leave the unvaxed behind they are no more likely to pass you CV than a Vaxed person, personally I don’t care if someone’s Vaxed or not it makes no difference to me and it’s not because people don’t care! The nurses, Doctors carers who you stood and applauded for catering for our community u think it’s ok to “leave behind� It’s laughable just admit to yourself you’ve been lied to and duped once we do we can move on! would you feel safe if 100% of society were Vaxed? Because we apparently have the highest case numbers we’ve ever had if that’s true and our country is 80% Vaxed with 2-3 vaxs so how does that work? 😂 crazy, go about your business but don’t think you can tell people get Vaxed or you should be left behind it’s a ridiculous notion and a very dangerous one! Think of future generations not just the elderly my kids have done NOTHING fir two years, Look at the number of cancer patients missed the suicides the mental health issues that will last generations! Get Vaxed if you like but don't blame the rest if society because you’ve been panicked into stopping your life.
21 Dec 2021 17:18:50
And Jacky boy really sorry if you have lost someone to C.V. both my Grandparents list there life’s in the end to the Flu, u talk about people not being able to follow guidance for 3-4 weeks but it’s not it’s 2 years and we are No further forward! Really wish no one had to lose anyone but that’s not life! We can’t stop living for this forever! Btw if any of you are interested real CV death toll go on CDC and Read! It tells you in black and white 5-6% of the quotes numbers are DIRECTLY from C.V.! Under comorbidities (spelling) that’s me done come on here to chat about football but I HATE seeing people supporting segregation of society it can’t be tolerated! Have a great Xmas guys let’s hope 2022 has the answers we all seek 💙.