Rangers Banter Archive September 07 2015

07 Sep 2015 21:19:11
Ive tried and I've tried and I know its wrong but I just can't bring myself to cheer on Scotland when they're playing, the reason is I can't support any team with Celtic players, the thought of cheering on the likes of Brown, Forrest, Mulgrew etc. fills me with dread. Am I in a minority of one or does anyone else feel the same? If the likes of Lee Wallace was in a team i'd want him to do well but wouldn't really care if team won lost or drew. isn't that awful?

07 Sep 2015 23:01:29
I'm sure there are plenty more who feel like you do but I'm not one.
I am Scottish, proud to be Scottish and I will always support my national team. To be honest I find this whole SFA conspiracy against Rangers idea to be worryingly paranoid and a bit pathetic if I'm honest.
As for the Celtic players in the team it only bothers me if they're not up to the job and frequently I find myself irritated by Brown as I was tonight. As for Forest I honestly don't see what the fuss is about. I don't rate him at all. I rarely see him take on a man and when he does there's rarely an end product of a decent ball. Thought Mulgrew was decent tonight and would sooner have him captain over Brown. As for Griffiths, the more I hear about him the more I dislike the sound of him as a person. But as a player I would have had him on the park before Fletcher.
All that said, you can't force yourself to support something you're not comfortable with so if that's how you feel that's how you feel. Nothing to do with anyone else I suppose. Me, when the ball hits the back of the net for Scotland I can't control my shouts of "Yes! Get intae them Scotland" regardless of who's playing in the team. If truth be told my dislike for Ian Black was far greater than any of the Celtic players I've mentioned, with the possible exception of Griffiths.

07 Sep 2015 23:34:29
Well you must be a happy person tonight,the thought of someone not wanting their country to win because it picks celtic players fills me with dread.

What a bigot! I`m glad the national team d`ont have your support if that`s your reason for not cheering your country.

Could have seen your point if you had said they always fall at the final hurdle, and make you feel deflated.

But because there Celtic players in the team. really! grow up.

08 Sep 2015 00:30:37
Sounds a bit childish to me

07 Sep 2015 22:39:15
couldny trap, pass or header a ball if they tried. thank god for the gers as they seem to have that covered.Darren fletcher sits on the bench whilst Morrison runs around kicking everything along wi his partner brown.and once again steven fletcher. hahahahahaha. Gordon o'strachan is now a laughing stock just like his predecessor. how do those guys make so much money. deecee

08 Sep 2015 01:35:44
The 3 of them where rank rotten.Brown looks fu#ed,Mulgrew pi$h & God knows why they pick Forrest ( can run but never the final ball then non existent). Ad get rid of the 3 of them tomorrow if it was possible!( & am not anti Celtic lol) just support em

08 Sep 2015 07:03:33
I would also always support Scotland regardless of who is playing. But I wouldn't go so far as to call someone a bigot for not doing so its a bit out of context.

08 Sep 2015 07:58:27
Nah your letting yourself down big time with that mate, if your scotish you support the the national team regardless of whose playing. Thought mulgrew tried hard and that's all you can ask when they pull that Scotland top on

{Ed001's Note - why though? Patriotism? If so, you do realise that it is merely a concept invented to get peasantry to fight wars for the monarchy right? Why should people not be able to choose whether to support their country or not? I certainly would never give a toss how any nation gets on, it matters not a jot to me. Though I do watch out for players from my club and how they get on.}

08 Sep 2015 08:11:47
Ed that comes across as a particularly republican point of view that. Not sure where you're going with that to be honest. With regards to my own comments I simply ment Assuming you follow Scotland then you get behind whoever plays on the night regardless of their club

{Ed001's Note - what the hell? Nothing to do with republican at all, simply pointing out why I understand someone not giving a monkey's about their country. In Liverpool we have a saying, Scouse, not English. What you meant and what you said were totally different things then.}

08 Sep 2015 08:35:06
Bluebeard, the one thing i'm not is a bigot, i'm married to a Catholic woman and my kids go to a Catholic school, the reason for that is i'm not religious while she is. I put post up to see how other people felt and to get their opinions and not to be called names by the likes of you. i'm probably just old fashioned but surely not liking your biggest rivals and their players dosnt make you a bigot.

08 Sep 2015 08:38:42
Ed if you are a follower of your national team you are not going to wish them ill solely on when ever an Everton player is in the team and that is where most people are taking exception to this ludicrous and clearly bigoted standpoint. And I already know the Merseyside rivalry in many ways has matured past the lunacy that exists up here.

The part "I can't support any team with Celtic players" also touches on something we talked of recently, ie a Celtic win v say Aberdeen handing Rangers a league title, it is a beyond daft standpoint from a beyond daft person. Even after the Mo Johnston debacle I cheered when he scored v Sweden in the 1990 World Cup, grow up would be my advice to the poster.

{Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying and fully agree on this point.}

08 Sep 2015 08:39:19
The core issue of the thread was that the original post by janesadiction stated that he couldn't get behind the national team because it was made up partly with Celtic players.
Seems pretty straight forward to me what I said in reply is easy enough to follow.

If you were from this particular part of the world you would realise that the suggestion of peasantry fighting for monarchy could take us in whole different direction so clearly what you've said and what you mean are two entirely different things.

{Ed001's Note - you can try and explain it how you want, but what you said was not that.

As for the second paragraph, that just shows how idiotic people are, if they can't differentiate that, not that what I said and what I meant are different things. If you fail to understand the point I made, that is your issue not mine.}

08 Sep 2015 09:18:59
Wow now you are making it personal because you choose not to acknowledge there is a potential problem in your choise of words.Keep calm and realise my intension is only keep it civilised.

{Ed001's Note - how am I making it personal? Again the lack of understanding is coming from your end not mine. If you are unable to understand the difference between a calm response and one that is not calm, then I think I am wasting my time. You clearly just don't have a sufficient understanding of basic English language to grasp the concepts at hand and so jump to erroneous conclusions, whatever the intention actually is. That again is not my fault, so please just drop this as you are getting the wrong end of the stick each time due to your lack of understanding, not my problematic wording.}

08 Sep 2015 09:52:27
Here's a concept for you, could it be that it's you who has the lack of understanding?A lack of respect certainly which shows your arrogance.
That's twice you've implied I'm unable and that you are all knowing because I disagree. I think that says more about you than it does me.

I have a basic understanding of English and nothing more, however I have a clear understanding of when someone is loosing the plot and resorts to insults in an attempt to gain the upper hand.

I'd have thought it enough that the posters on here try to regulate themselves in a proper manner without the need for you to go sticking your oar in unessesaraly.

08 Sep 2015 10:01:29
Janesaddiction while I respect your choice not to support the national team cause it has Celtic players in it is up to you your free choice but sori when you mention your family who is catholic that means your not sectarian but not supporting Scotland because of Celtic players does mean your bigoted but like I said you are entitled to support who u like

08 Sep 2015 10:50:32
So that's your response is it? If you come across someone who disagrees with you opinions then you simply claim they are thick and don't understand then duely ban them from the site.

Well this is only one of the rangers forums I'm on and rest assured the other's will know exactly the type of people governing this one. Absolutely pathetic,heavy handed is an understatement what you're doing is both cowardly and conceited

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? You never disagreed with my opinion, you didn't know what I was talking about. So grow up. As for being banned, what? You are not banned, even though you are acting like a moron. As for spreading malicious lies, do you really think I care what you do? Do you think it matters to me? And you have the cheek to call others pathetic!}

08 Sep 2015 11:01:06
I just think that all this is just absolutely nonsense! Scotland are playing great and yeah they will as normal probably fail to get to France, but dose that mean we need to stop cheering our guys on?

I'm for happy with the players the manager has picked. Just because there ain't no Rangers players in the team don't make us any better or worse. I can see the point people saying Strachan won't pick rangers players because he is an ex Celtic manager BULLS**T. Maybe Rangers players won't cut it at the moment because we ain't playing top flight teams or the style of football Scotland play won't suit them.

Honest the bigots out there get a grip it's a game of football. 90 mins of guys running about trying to put a ball in the goal for us all to cheer. Just GROW UP!

08 Sep 2015 11:25:59
So very sad to see these posts.

I let Celtic and their fans do all the hating, so I do. I have no time for it - dislike them and their silly fixation with The Famous Glasgow Rangers.

We are a footballing nation who support our individual teams through thick and thin, and come together at times like this to support our teams, some players I like, some players I do not like and some players I dislike intensely - but I do not hate any of them, and will cheer the team on when and if they win.

I think the original post should have kept that feeling a secret - in this day and age we should be building bridges not creating sectarian divide.

08 Sep 2015 12:47:45
Bay

As always common sense but spotting the actual bad things Griffith is a NED I every sense of the word he is and will always be an embarrassment to whomever he plays for both on and off the pitch the contrast between him and Miller who has played well for both Rangers and septic is night and day.

I love when Scotland win but am getting tired of the year in year out let downs georgia being a prime example if we win that we only needed to beat Poland to guarantee a spot in France as per usual we ar*e it up

Thank god for Warburton and Rangers

08 Sep 2015 13:09:38
KT?

Every club has had it's bad boys and we have had a few of those, so we have.

Let Celtic and their fans hate us in spades - I do not care - that is their problem not ours. If we turn the other cheek that will infuriate them more than us posting hate filled messages, so it will.

Two sides hating each other does not work - just look at Syria and other Middle East countries.

Or do should we as supporters of The Famous Glasgow Rangers fixate the same as Celtic do??

08 Sep 2015 13:08:52
KT ok ned.

Griffiths a ned. Honest do you even know what N.E.D stands for and I don't mean the movie.

Barry Ferguson was and probably still is a NED as you put it. Scott brown is one. Zlatan Ibrohamivc is one. Rino Gattusso is one. Alex Rae is one. I can keep going here. Just because they play aggressive football and don't take no CRAP from anyone don't mean their NEDS. Means their men and won't back down from anything!

Honest all you Rangers bigots is what give us that shame and blame. Shut up for once and enjoy 90 minutes of football.

To the original post person that put debate ongoing. Did you cheer for Kenny Miller when he left Celtic and came to us? Did you cheer Mo Johnston? If so shut up your just a big hated bigot that got brought up hating Celtic fans if so that's your family's up bringing of you! But these guys get paid to kick a ball who cares if most Celtics team in Scotland.

Look at our team. It's mostly English players so what you going to cheer for England when our players not in that team? Get a GRIP!

08 Sep 2015 13:12:36
Sorry doesn't pick Rangers players because of the division total bull,Lee Wallace is a left back probably the best in Scotland on form scoring goals ,Charlie Mulgrew is niether a left back oe on form he was culpable against Malmo and again for Germany's second goal.Its not Mulgrews fault its Strachan a bitter wee man who cost us qualification because he only plays favourites,why no Fletcher Adam Rhodes.

08 Sep 2015 15:14:18
Got to disagree with you there Teeboy. As far as I'm aware NED stands for Non Educated Delinquent and has absolutely nothing to do with being an aggressive footballer. It's more to do with a person's social character, moral standing and general attitude towards people and their responsibilities to others in their community. With all that in mind it might be worth rethinking some of those you branded a Ned in your post. Ibrahimovic a Ned?! Nah, I don't think so. Griffiths though?! Well you'd have to ask his children, the mother's of his children and the members of the public that have encountered him on a night out.

08 Sep 2015 16:02:13
Janesaddiction. Your right in saying, not liking your biggest rivals and their players, "does not make you a bigot" but surely only when their playing for your biggest rivals.

As you asked for other posters thoughts on this issue my opinion is that,people who won't support the national team because there`s Celtic or Rangers players selected, are bigots.

08 Sep 2015 16:23:25
Spot on bay there Teeboy was rambling nonsense!i for 1 have no interest in international football at all but that's just me got nothin to do with who is playing for Scotland I just don't have the same interest as I do watching Rangers or club football for that matter but I agree the boy is a bigot if he can't stand the team due to Celtic players being present in the squad sad days!!

07 Sep 2015 20:08:49
Gordon o'strachan couldny pick his nose. deecee

07 Sep 2015 19:25:41
St Johnstone will be a gauge but
Are they really that concerned about
Progressing in the lesser of the cups gets must win the petrofac
Cup this season in my opinion
The league is already won as our.rivals will all drop points
It is who we sign in January that will be interesting that may make celtic look over their shoulder

07 Sep 2015 20:23:03
Yes, the Petrofac is a must.

07 Sep 2015 15:07:41
Ed just wondered if u could clear up a non football related question sorry. Does anyone know if anything ever happened about the arsenal shares White gave up?. Is there any chance if getting such important pieces of history back?

07 Sep 2015 16:26:08
According to reports, whyte got £224,000 for them when they were sold. Arsenal are reported to have bought them back.

07 Sep 2015 20:13:12
Where they not sold to there formeer chairrman or something? Dein?

08 Sep 2015 07:53:37
Is there any chance of buying them back again? Just hate the fact bits of history sold off so easy.

08 Sep 2015 12:11:37
A lot of beating about the bush, but the short answer to your straightforward question is no.

09 Sep 2015 17:11:57
KAI
Not likely, when shares are sold it is not usually a transfer of a piece of paper but your name on a register. These old documents have curiosity value but don't mean too much in terms of ownership. Arsenal probably changed the name on the register and put the papers in a glass case. Why would they give them back? If we bought that number of share it would be a not on a computer somewhere and not the part of our history.
Says it all about Whyte.

07 Sep 2015 00:12:23
well strachans bubbles burst , dreadful performance and dreadful team not being vindictive here but was broon on the park, he was awful just like in europe, surely riffiths, neas he is should have replaced fletcher, a guy who scores every xmas? pathetic and his bringing on forrest who breaks own once a month and hnley when we needed 2 up front. anyone agree?

07 Sep 2015 11:23:17
no interest in corrupt sfa team rather focus on rangers its all about the rangers

07 Sep 2015 13:02:22
In years gone by it was great watching Scotland play but the present style and calibre of player is painful and reminds me of watching Ally's team the last couple of years. Agony.

Rangers are a joy to watch right now and that's all that matters to me. I think we're already streets ahead of the likes of Aberdeen, Hearts and Dundee united and would beat Celtic if we come across them in a cup tie this season. Let's hope the SFA don't try and pinch Warburton & Weir.

07 Sep 2015 14:01:07
Aren't you just better seeing how you get on against St Johnstone to gauge how much you've improved before saying your "streets ahead " of premier clubs . Aberdeen and Celtic are actually unbeaten as well and that's against a higher calibre of teams

07 Sep 2015 14:50:23
DEEAITCH?

I can understand your reason for celtic being a higher calibre as they cost tens of millions to put together, but how do you put Aberdeen in that class - they have spent very little if anything and are playing in a sub standard Premier League.

07 Sep 2015 15:02:22
all brown has ever done is run around kicking people.Strachan is a celtic man and his teams will always be celtic minded whether on the park or on the bench and scott allen will be next for a cap so accept the facts our country is oot. world cup next with the celtic reserves being looked at whilst I type. he's done well to get us out of the basement but that's his level. steven fletcher. hahahahahahahahah. JOKE!. deecee

07 Sep 2015 16:10:06
Aye ready if it was all about money Rangers would already be in the SPFl and I might be right in thinking Aberdeen have spent roughly the same as Rangers on their team,and Rangers over a lot more than the part timer's they have been playing over the past few years.

07 Sep 2015 16:28:14
Aye Ready the second worst team in that sub-standard league you talk of cuffed you 6-1 only just over three months ago, had you forgot that? Now I appreciate Rangers are better, much better than they were but to date you have played no one. St Johnstone might be a small step up, Aberdeen bigger still and Celtic, who beat Aberdeen 4/4 last season, as well as beating yourselves 1/1 and your league nemesis Hearts very convincingly in two games are still a step up again. Are you that good? It remains to be seen. But are some of you going into superlative overdrive on what you have done so far, absolutely. Take care of St Johnstone then we have at least a gauge.

07 Sep 2015 17:39:58
Spot on Gaz 1. We have beaten everyone so far including Hibs (twice) and St Mirren (SPL team last season) and of course you can't compare the team who played Motherwell and lost 6-1 on aggregate with this team. The St Johnstone tie will be the first gauge as you say and if we win that game well then we'll have moved a step further up the ladder. The standard in the SPL isn't that good. Hearts have done well since going up and could be back on top of the SPL (albeit maybe briefly) on Friday night. Hearts would not have stormed ahead of this current Rangers team had they been in play last season. Let's wait and see with eager anticipation!

07 Sep 2015 17:48:53
Gaz1 have you watched any of the rangers games this season because if you had you wouldn't be comparing this team with what was being played last year and I mean this Warburton team is light years a head of any team in the championship and the only team I would worry about playing would be celtic at Parkhead but if we are still playing the way we are now in the new year your team will no they are in for a game I also think with the quick ball Mr Brown would be sent off he's a thug pure and simple another thing your leaving out is Warburton make five changes players who have been playing well don't make the bench and remind us how many defenders are in this year's squad from last year?!!

07 Sep 2015 18:46:02
Yeah let's not get Carried away lads gaz1 is right.
I read the same criticism levelled at the Malmo fans when after qualifying for the champions league some of their support were getting a wee bit carried away about their prospects in the group stages. The Swedish media were quick to remind them however that thus far they had played no one to get there!

07 Sep 2015 22:09:00
RHW I've saw a few games this season, not as many as last year and of course there are better but here is something to ponder.

99.99% of teams are in the league they are in on merit I'd hate to say only Rangers stand out when I actually don't know but in several ways they are an exception. Over thirty years or so the numbers of wins, losses and draws, more losses needless to say, have saw Notts Forest disappear from double European champions to invariably Championship also rans or worse. Similarly a higher than anticipated number of wins sees Hull and Swansea up there with the big boys and on merit too. EVERY club finds their level. Except Rangers.

This demotion wasn't on footballing merits as we all know and given the resources and even the squad they started with (of 21 players by the way, not the imagined three men and dog some of you claim)it was, or least ways should not have been a struggle bouncing back. The only thing that even made this of interest, competitive and indeed therefore the foil for many a joke was the fiasco that is Ally "the frozen one" McCoist's management, that is all. To all intents and purposes this was throwing a heavyweight into the lightweight division, a bad heavyweight will still win most fights at that level, a decent one with some good results, a very good one with some killer efficiency and real panache.

I'm not saying 5-0 every week should be the benchmark and on paper it is good as is the style of play currently but such was the poverty of entertainment that you saw under McCoist that damn near any improvement will be claimed comparable with the 1970 Brazil team. That you went 5 away game s in division 3 without an away win was a disgrace, that you haven't won the Petrofac in three attempts is a disgrace, last season was utterly farcical but yes you have a good guy in charge and look at the superlatives Sir Warburton, playing like Borgs (I appreciate this is nothing to do with Swedish tennis but FFS!) You SHOULD be winning most weeks at this level because EVERY other team in Scotland is at their level, St Mirren, Hibs, Alloa, Peterhead, Airdrie are that low, are that bad. I know it doesn't mean you thrash teams every week and so far that is encouraging but you have still to play a good team and for that matter much as it's a step up I don't even thing St Johnstone will pose a problem. But please, please find some perspective, you would think there would be a reluctance to go overboard after all the woes of late but on the evidence of the salivating it doesn't seem so.

08 Sep 2015 01:06:41
Noone has mentioned the second gauge yet (st Johnstone being the first). Celtic vs Raith. 5-0, almost 80% possession, over 20 shots and all away from home. If we are so far behind surely Celtic will crush these stats given they are at home. wonder what odds pp are giving out on that lol. ;-) ;-) ;-)

08 Sep 2015 08:48:37
Depends Spart if you remember Lennon used the first round for us of the League cup to blood squad players, made 10 changes and got beat 1-0 to Morton. Had 25 shots, an amazing 27 corners and 67% possession. Possession isn't everything by the way spart, never really impressed me as a stat, Netherlands had 68% of it at the weekend and got gubbed 3-0 by Turkey. So with endless Thursday night Europa games, which have their own demands, you always have only 3 days till a league game at most, you might find he tinkers with his team if not downright changes it. Apples and oranges until Europe is over or till you are back in it.

08 Sep 2015 09:18:31
I agree to an extent re possession gaz, arsenal almost always have most of the ball but haven't won the league in years. Also even mccoist teams mostly managed to hold over 50%. The difference this year is we are dominating possession in the opposition half, not just passing it about the back, and doing something positive with it numerous times every game. Also get the 'weakened team' angle but Warburton has yet to play the same lineup two weeks running, often five changes at a time, and it hasn't affected the outcome or style of play one iota. I will still be interested in how much you win by and how comfortably you do it as all I've heard from my Celtic mates recently is you should be smashing these teams off the park every week anyway etc. Goose and gander, lead by example etc lol.

08 Sep 2015 11:06:49
But your still not factoring in that of our four tournaments the League Cup is probably number four in priority, of your targets winning the Championship (and by definition smashing these teams) is your number one. I'm not saying Celtic won't try, won't care but is it as vital to us as winning the Championship should be for you? Of course not. Like I said till Europe is over we are trying to compare apples and oranges. Hearts were a fair indicator of the gulf between both teams last year, we played them after the Europa League rounds and unlike their Petrofac team they were full strength against us so we knew, or had a fair idea, that's Celtic's best beat Hearts best who could beat Rangers best, yes? And ultimately that was backed up in the LC semi, where it was 2-0 but you never even had a shot on goal. That "form" or acid test can't or won't be established after the next round of the League Cup that's for sure.

We are playing more games, against tougher opponents and travelling more miles to do so with more players getting picked at international level, of course Raith might be seen as a game to take the foot off the pedal and give Allan, Rogic, Stokes, Ambrose etc a game. And as to who is best, it won't tell us a damn thing.

08 Sep 2015 15:02:06
I will agree gaz tougher league but not by much like I said celtic at parkhead before christmas is my only worrier and fyi I think we are a better outfit than heart and look were they are.

08 Sep 2015 19:14:12
RHW At best you have played genuine Championship teams so far, that's all we have to go by, St Johnstone is your first toe dip into something different, given the momentum of the QOS and Hibs victories last season who saw an out of form Motherwell beating you 6-1 so I wouldn't get carried away yet and chances are Hearts have improved from last season too, no?

08 Sep 2015 20:37:49
gaz your not comparing like for like it would be like me trying to comparing this celtic side to one that was good enough to qualified for champion league football

08 Sep 2015 21:41:24
Surely then, given the league is our priority too, the St Johnstone match will be no gauge as to progression either. Not a single fan will deny the current team is a country mile ahead of the one that beat st j in the cup not so long ago. Win, lose or draw we ultimately won't know how we would do in top league until we get there. End of thread lol ;-)

08 Sep 2015 23:02:15
I appreciate he has improved you RHW but your team was three months ago or so the Celtic one you talk of was 2 years ago, I know which one is closer to their comparison. Forster, Hooper, Wanyama, Wilson, Ledley, Matthews, it seems a million years ago in some ways lol. But are you better than anything outside the Championship? We don't know, it's as simple as that, way too many false dawns with Rangers of late to presume this as an automatic already 2nd best team in Scotland. Last season I thought the rounds would get easier, QOS outplayed you just before the play offs whereas you had began to get the number of Hibs and Motherwell losing a close battle for 10th would be gutted, I really thought it got easier as the rounds went by as did many folk, you got destroyed and I know we are talking a different manager etc etc and some better players but my point is you had momentum and were favourites and it didn't happen, in that regard we are very much comparing like with like regards St Johnstone till we actually see the game, I'm pretty confident you will be favourites, back it up, then make the next step, maybe ICT, then Aberdeen/Hearts only then does second best become a valid claim and of course beating us would suggest resurrection all but complete. But you need to do it first any number of wins v these current teams says bugger all.

09 Sep 2015 14:18:49
Gaz, if you look at my initial post there were three winky faces. I wasn't seriously implying Celtic must beat those stats or we are automatically better. I said as soon as it became clear the hibs cup game wasn't a fluke that I wanted three teams this year in the cups (hypothetically winning at least one game for all three matches to materialise) in order to gauge the current teams standing in comparison to last year. Hearts, Motherwell then Celtic. All three embarrassed us last year truth be told. Not saying it'd be a shoe-in that we'd win any, nvm all three but would be a far harder test for all three too than they got last year. The cups, to me, aren't important this year but these games in particular if they came would either prove we could already handle it in spfl or highlight key areas needing strengthened for when we do get there. It'd be a win win in my book.

09 Sep 2015 14:51:00
No worries spart I just meant with regards priorities Rangers league efforts v any Championship team will see Rangers at their most focused, dare I say "bread and butter fixture" A championship team in the League Cup for Celtic might not get the juices flowing as much and therefore the performance probably will be off that intensity. But absolutely neither tells us nothing longer term.

I promise you I'm not saying it to cause mischief Spart, I enjoy talking to you a lot, but I'd have thought the petrofac was a boil that needs lancing this season. I don't mean it to merely add pressure too but it kind of needs to happen this year no? Honestly daft as it seems I'd imagine it is target number three this year at Ibrox not even four. I appreciate that sounds daft in the big scale of things but it does grow weight every season it isn't won. What's your thoughts on it over say the League Cup?

09 Sep 2015 21:41:19
Yup, totally agree. Think it's actually essential this year tbh. But that's to fans like me who have had to suffer the embarrassing fiasco of previous years in the comp. Management team may view it entirely differently.