07 May 2014 21:28:13
i voted yes to andy little being released only because the lad won't get a fair deal from macoist will do far better away from ibrox he was not on a fantastic wage and will probably earn more elsewhere its sad a lad with promise gets released and will do better else where
08 May 2014 00:38:43
I don't agree with Andy Little being released he atleast had some sell on value, unlike his replacement (kenny miller) but let's be honest Andy Little scored most his goals in div 3, in 8 international starts (8) how many goals has he scored (0), Andy will never be half the player kenny is/was
08 May 2014 00:43:49
Shiels, Daly, Clark, Gallagher, possibly Miller
We have too much strikers, I can see shiels being possibly sold or Clark being loaned out
I also seen Mohsni has been called up to the Tunisia squad
Hes on £6500 a week. No point keeping him to keep him on the bench the more wages Ally free up quickly the quicker he can bring in his targets before other clubs get the chance. Sorry Andy you are just another victim of the £67M sqaundered.
Here's a new idea let's save the £6, 500 per week and give Super Ally zippo and see if he can "manage" on less like the rest of us have since 2007
McCoist has been the one person who has been with the club in a senior position since SDM's time. Surely his steady hand and his responsibility to the fans and in dealing with the prying Scottish media would mean he is entitled to a large income for carrying the club.
{Ed039's Note - Its not just wages Chris, its substandard players on over inflated wages with no real impact, the neglect of youth when an opportunity to build from the bottom up, this needs to all be factored in when taking into consideration how much money McCoist has cost, another manager could have done a better job in the last 2 years for a fraction of the cost whilst developing much more younger talent)
Greybear I think its possible his money has not been cut so far he ia as responsible for wasting as much money as the rest and maybe more
Nbts I think so far macoist is still on his origanal salary probably because he has not read or signed his amended cotract seriously think still gets full wage yet
If another Manager had tried to run with the youth players and players on very small wages, the fans may have rebelled and stopped going. Mc Coist was probably the one of a few managers who the fans wanted a couple of years ago I agree he should haven't signed players on the wages he did.
@ 8 and is that not what is happening with McCoist's "SAFE OPTION" of expensive non re-saleable journeymen?
Ibrox has been emptier this year than it was when a young Gordon Dalziel and Andy Kennedy were running about Ibrox with effort and endeavour but little ability but the bears gave them time because they were young bears. And we ALL want young players to succeed- because the majority of us know we NEED young players to succeed because we cannot afford McCoist's way.
Surely you must see the folly of young talent with potential sell on value being overlooked for expensive elderly players with no intrinsic value?
Young Sam Kelly could have had an inexpensive contract and played in midfield instead of Black who has slowed down our attack and tempo and allowed "lowlier" clubs to compete with us. Young Kelly mooted as a future captain of Ireland a young Roy Keane would have been a far better bet or even playing young Lewis MacLeod in his favoured central midfield but no the Super One only wants the old trusted hands and Ibrox is less than half full because most of us are fed up with the poor football and non management in the dugout and in the stands.
@9 I also recall the Dalziel and Kennedy days and it was not too long before they got the fans up in arms which then got John Grieg the sack - poorest football I have ever watched at Ibrox.
Yes we all want the youth to succeed, but just because we want it doesn't make it so. The reality, is that the demands of playing for Rangers or Celtic make it very rare that young player comes through and can hold down a first team place - the statistics prove this. I would be so happy if your suggestion was reality but it is simply not the position we are in. If the players were good enough, strong enough and had the right mentality they would be in the team
I struggled to recall who Sam Kelly was and realised he was a 20 year old trialist in the summer and now Plays in the conference for Cambridge. I think this justifies McCoist decision. Unfortunately for McCoist, Macleod has been injured all season or he would have played in midfield - first name on the team sheet. Unfortunately he is the exception and the only one to demonstrate he can handle being n the team every week. McCoist has stuck with Aird so is giving this boy every chance. Unlike us, McCoist does not have the luxury of keyboard management, he has to deliver a wining team which he has poor though it is to watch.
@10 then you must have been in the whingeing section because they were given months in the enclosure.
Does your strange reality include Celtic's Quality Street Kids?
Wasn't the idea of Auchenhowie to produce our own youngsters to save ridiculous fees- let me answer that for you YES!
Your calm and measured assessment also completely falls apart when we come to McAusland who has never let us down at right back. He was a stand out in the Honk Kong tournament and played better than Faure or Forster have all season in the few starts he was allowed.
Our then second choice goalkeeper could have played the last 5 games of the season in the third division (once the league was won) to gain experience but your friend Ally chose to stick with Alexander.
Good decision?- maybe in your's and Ally's world.
Gasparato makes the Canadian squad but Ally prefers Cribari for the bench.
Cribari is much worse than Craig Patterson was in his first few months.
Bobby Russell came from junior football but that didn't stop him from being one of our finest midfielders ever and scoring one of our best away goals in Holland in an incredible 2 - 3 victory.
Lets see where young Kelly is in another couple of seasons before we rush to dismiss his lowly position from our summit of the third third league in Scotland ( Scotland population 5.3million England population 58.3million)
Do you think McCoist's learned behaviour from Walter Smith who didn't give Barry Ferguson a chance is the cause of his behaviour in your reality?
Oh and finally quite recently we went bust- did you miss that? Were you asleep or out the country?. With the best youth development facility certainly in Scotland a reasonable man would reasonably assume a low cost base should be a towards a necessity.
No youth about in this country? James Forest- Celtic. Gary MacKay-Stevens, Andy Robertson, Stuart Armstrong, Ryan Gauld Dundee United, Peter Pawlett Aberdeen to say nothing about the entire Hearts first team minus 3 experienced players.
Now that is reality for you or am I taking the Michael like hopefully you were?
Nearly all managers will play their tried and trusted, as these are the players usually bought by manager or on the highest wages. Managers feel their first choice players have let them down when they have to resort to youngsters
Clubs like Dundee United don't have top class senior players so they give youth a chance.
Greybear, you are absolutely spot on. I honestly cannot believe anyone of sound mind can support ally and think he has went about things the right way.
@ 13 Blue Velvet I agreed with your later post before I read you agreed with my above rant. I hope it's great minds think alike rather than the ----s seldom differ one.
@12 So Dundee United who have beaten us in the last three cup games and who are in the Premier League with a chance of winning the Scottish Cup plus will play in Europe next year, who have no debt and who will definitely not go into Admin are in a better or worse position than us? United do not have any quality experienced players but they achieved all they have this year including rave reviews about their football from most pundits in Scotland only because they have young talented players?
The most infamous quote ever from a pundit was Allan Hansen's "you don't win anything with kids" about Alec Ferguson's young Man U team which included Giggs, Beckham the two Nevilles, Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes.
I am not exactly sure what your argument is -are you?
Greybear I seem to have upset you. Quite entitled to your view which has some merit and I genuinely wish it was so.
Auchenhowie clearly was set up to encourage youth development and has been reasonable successful but not to the extent we had hoped. Rangers will always demand instant success. This not my view but just the realty and the pressure we the fans put on the team.
MacAusland - if you have read my previous posts you would see that I agree with you but he is still a risk as he is lucky to have started 10 games for the club
Gasparotto - looks like a real prospect but saw him last Friday at Falkirk and he was taken off with 35 mins played having struggled. Inconsistency is the problem with young players
Booby Russell - no argument but he wasn't a young player when he came to Rangers and never came though a youth system.
Sam Kelly - best of luck to the boy but I agree - let's see where he is in a few years time.
Barry Ferguson - Barry Played his first season under Walter Smith and then Smith rested him for the last half of the season. Barry was 17 years old at the time. Best player ever to come through the Youth system for me and for three years was world class. Surely you are not comparing any of our current young players to Barry - they are simply worlds apart in terms of ability.
Going Bust - you seem to think I support the policy of signing players at the expense of youth. You couldn't be further of the mark but I won't support putting them in the team just because they are young - they have to be good enough. McCoist says they are not good enough and that is the bottom line until he is not the manager. We have got a lot bigger problems than Ally McCoists credentials as a manager. I say Be careful what you wish for.
Youth - You infer that I suggested there was no Youth in Scotland. I did not suggest this. Clearly there are some decent young players in Scotland. But are they real quality - I point out to you David Goodwillie, Jamie Ness, Scott Allan, Fraser Fyvie, Danny Wilson, John Fleck. All of these believed their own hype ad have been found out. Nobody more dissapointed than me when Ness, Wilson and Fleck left Ibrox but are they the type of premadonnas we want at Ibrox.
@12 chris02, shot yourself in the foot there!
You, being a supporter of ally and his ways, have just contradicted yourself by comparing us with Dundee United and their successful youth policy.
@ 15 before I declare this a boring low scoring draw (a bit like McCoist's second highest cost squad which is EMPTYING IBROX and is therefore a very real threat to our existence) and could come back at all points with more verbage. I will simply try to counter why is it the McCoist supporters like yourself always point out the inconsistency of youth which suggests you think that the more mature players like Law, Black, Smith, Forster, McCulloch and Daly are more consistent when in fact they are every bit as inconsistent as the youth but of course they get paid a lot more and have absolutely no residual value.
Let's just agree to have totally different views on Rangers and especially about the worst manager ever to be placed in the hot seat.
@ Fair enough but must correct you. I am no McCoist supporter, but as long as he is the Rangers Manager I will support him. How would you feel if people were badgering from the sidelines to get you the sack from your job. Success for me is winning the championship each year therefore he is yet to fail even though the football is shocking