Rangers Banter Archive October 05 2013

05 Oct 2013 23:19:48
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE Someone tell me the story on news now rangers re Ally's salary is nonsense, if not nonsense it is an absolute disgrace and boy rubbing our faces in it again.

I'm afraid so, he is very good at what he does.

Nothing suprises me at ibrox anymore. so allys pay cut is temporay and he expects it to get back to normal as the club progresses through to the top league. wonder why he didn't drop to the bottom level of pay along with his team

It's scandalous. £825k in the top flight is far too much and what a massive drain on resources. How can Ally expect people to invest heavily in the team when he is taking those kind of wages? He is currently on a year rolling contract that shouldn't be renewed

06 Oct 2013 10:25:08
Maybe people will now realise that the "pay cut" was a stunt designed to help people ignore the real questions when the accounts were published. And it worked. So why oh why was nobody asking the obvious questions at the time, like - how much of a cut Ally? How long for? Was it your idea or suggested by the board? If it was your idea then why now? If it was the boards idea did you ask them why? Etc etc. But no, same old same old. Gers fans too much misplaced trust in "legends" all the the while being r#ped in the face by them. A first class example of how the value of "loyalty" that we're all so proud of is the very means by which we're being had. Does anyone else agree?
Jocko

Sunday papers today McCostly saying he wants top notch expensive players added before he gets to premiership. Ffs talk about insensitive engage brain first please.
Almost spent twice as much as income to get him fourth div. other managers would cake walk it with 25% of what he's got. I'm sick of McCoist mouthing off.

What ally is saying is true rangers need to get back in the champions league and they will need to spend money to win the spfl to do that that is a fact otherwise rangers will be trailing celtic for years and I'm not prepared to accept that thoughts fellow bears

06 Oct 2013 12:45:45
@6 Its a fact that impatient greedy supremacist attitudes like yours mean that the club hasn't learned a f#kn thing from the SDM disaster and is still running the club like a game of russian roullette - no long term financial plan other than hoping the fans will bail them out in another share issue next year. The accounts prove that. Why risk getting our head blown off again in a rush to the top when prudent financial management will see us there soon enough anyway?
Jocko

@6) well there's no money so where do u suppose it magic's up from? Ally's a*se?
And by the way, nobody has come out saying they're putting money in if the current board are replaced neither king nor McColl. Why should they plough millions in for the benefit of other shareholders they don't like?

Anybodies kid could manage this div with this squad. McCoist and his cronies should be sacked and save £2m now's the right time to push him out. It makes total economic sense and footballing sense. He wouldn't be offered a job anywhere. Never a manager.

What I don't understand is when Ally talked about negotiating a reduction in his wages, what's to negotiate?. Did he say "I'll take £80,000 per annum and then the board negotiated back upto £400,000 or whatever.

@9 1word compo,. ,. kbarry

@ no 6 you are not prepared to accept rangers trailing celtic, but you have accepted spivs ripping the heart out of rangers. FFS get your priorities right, the way things are going we may not be facing celtic for a lot longer than you would wish. jimbo.

05 Oct 2013 17:23:12
rangers have a squad of 56 players are you lot nuts

I assume that includes every youth player at the club because our first team squad is nowhere near that. If we are going to make up things might as well include the cleaners too because I heard sum of them have potential

That list will include probably 35+ U21s no doubt?

Gaz.

05 Oct 2013 20:19:23
@op, wot a silly and stupid post, have you counted all the youngsters who are affiated to Rangers?. However much it hurts you this is still a major football club with massive following, squad of 56, get a grip of ureself kid
Tommyblue

What's the point of having youngsters? Ally has already shown his hand.

05 Oct 2013 13:02:36
Was yesterday Ally's day of RECKONING?

I just recall the black room Jabba interview and they said Ally would have his day of reckoning.

Also Jabba said to fans the share issue was more like £9m so what was that all about as we know from accounts that's rubbish. Was he undermining the board at that point or what?

When will Jabba have his day of reckoning? His desperate performance during noddy gate propping up SDM and insisting AJ didn't nod in agreement that RFC could go bust. Duping fans over the seriousness. Everybody knows the truth now.

Flew in sir David's private jet to his island retreat, succulent lamb and finest red wines.

It was rumored Jabba was only there to write green's book. So why is he still there? Can he be voted out, day of reckoning style, at AGM?

Mr Traynor's position is a strange one given that he is meant to be the head of communications. I don't actually recall many communications since he joined. Also what does he think of the lies and character assassination of Malcolm Murray by the dreadful Jack Irvine and his Media House. By employing this organisation Mather and his colleagues have ensured there will be no rapprochment with the rebel shareholders and are further alienating a lot of the support with their rapidly declining standard of conduct

Hee haw lol

05 Oct 2013 20:50:23
To my mind the assault on M Murray is disgusting and shameful, we are watching a Real Rangers man being systematically abused by people who do not belong to our family, they must think we don't really care about our own? Malcolm is a bluenose from birth, they are nothing to us, why don't we have a banner made to show our support for our family member, and let these leeches know were our support lies
Tommyblue

@4 well said tommy right from the start this board have tried to discredit whoever speaks out against them the prime example Mather blaming the protesters for fans not bringing their kids to the games this board are the only ones playing divide and conquer because they are the only ones who have anything to lose it's that simple

05 Oct 2013 09:59:47
If Ally won The Champions League the muppets on here would still say he is not good enough.

They used to say Ally is not tactically aware, and therefore is not a good manager.

They used to say that Ally plays only one up front and does not use his wingers, and therefore is not a good manager.

They used to say he does not win enough games, and therefore is not a good manager.

An unbeaten record this season, the latest win culminating in an 8-0 going on 15-0 was because he bought too many players above the class of the league?????

Who are these so called people?

They are not football fans.
They are not Rangers fans.
They are fish wives and doom and gloomers.

I want to see Rangers win no matter where they are playing.

I want them to play the best team possible.

I want them to plan for the future.

I want them to remain unbeaten.

I want more world records.

Why?

Because I support Rangers and Ally 120%

Ally is Rangers. The Players are Rangers and SO AM I.

WATP

Who are you to decide who is and is not a Rangers fan? I'm not a Rangers fan cause I have a clue and can see McCoist is a diddy? Away you go ya clown. Your type is exactly what's wrong with an element of our support. Back Ally no matter how terrible a manager, and that's what he is. The WORST Rangers manager of them all.

Steven!

I disagree with everything you say.

Get rid of McCoist McDowell and Durrant.

We don't do walking away?

For £800000 plus a year?

God almighty we are in the third tier of scottish football??

These are the economics of the mad house!

There cannot be any justification for these wages.

We will be in administration again.

The supporters are being taken for mugs.

The finances of the club are complete and utter madness.

Look at Inverness and what Terry Butcher has achieved with the limited resources available to him.

World records for the worst run football club in the world.

Has no one learned anything from the financial downfall of this institution.

Your attitude of blindly following on will lead to financial ruination.

Grow up. Wise up

These are not the values of most Rangers supporters.

Work ethic live within your means.

Must have highest wage bill for a low division team.
Losses of over £14 million.
Surely thays another two world records. !
Ur kind of mentality is why Rangers are where they are today Matt.

05 Oct 2013 12:33:16
Funny how you always pop up Matt when its time to distract fans from the real issues - like the fact that the accounts now prove that the board PLAN to run out of money in a year. Your fake "120%" stance doesn't fool the discerning fan on here. I suppose there's plenty gullible ones for you to toy with, but then they're so gullible does it really need you to keep leading them into cuckoo cotton wool land?

Supporters have a right to their opinion and if they don't like the manager then how does that make them any less of a fan? You will find fans of every club are split on certain players and managers. That's the nature of the game and why it's a great game to watch and then debate about. Your sweeping statements about the Rangers support only show up your lack of intelligence when it comes to football.

05 Oct 2013 12:54:50
There's as more chance of Ally winning the Champions League than of Matt ever making a valid point about our current financial problems.

Ally will be doing well to finish above Hearts next season if that team are relegated as Hearts are doing what a team in admin or liquidation should always do, i. e bring on their youngsters.

Your sense of entitlement is breathtaking.

Get real and see where the club is at this time.

Overspent - underachieved and suffering the consequences

Your idea is spend some more and maintain the same course - fool!

9)
I agree - financial reality - not reckless overspending.

Where is the emphasis on youth and the investment in Murray Park?

@9 your correct mate and Ally has now almost completely disregarded the youngsters only Lewis McLeod gets a game in the first team with McKay, Aird and Gasperatto all flung to the side. Ally not building a team for the future only to get out the bottom leagues of Scottish football. Shinning example of inept and short term management

Too brag about betting a part time team 8-0 when rangers have a full time team is laughable.

McCoist lost a 15 point lead to Celtic in rangers last year, most fans said the style of football played last year was dier to say the least.

McCoist has just made him self look like a clown saying he didn't know what his salary is. If any fans buy that pun then they need a wake up call.

Green was right McCoist needs to do more than beat a part time league, he needs a good cup run to at very least semi finals and if not at least win it.

Lenny

Matt Crozier few thing I think you are missing?
Football fans are allowed to voice their opinions.
Fish wives gut fish?
Best team possible doesn't mean paying palyers huge sums.
Plans for future doeasnt mena speanding all the money to play against part tiem teams or take huge bonuses for doing it.
We have been beaten all be it in cup, big deal?
World records in what the highest wage for a manager? to win lower leagues? Biggest bonuses ever paid out in lower leagues?
Biggest herd of money robing directors ever in a football boards room?
Biggest sting on Rangers supporters in their history.
World record for lies coming out of one place ever?
You support 120% and what's that suppoused to imply. thta you are the greatest one fan we have ever had?
Ally is not Rangers Ally is an employee who is highly paid. The players are at Ibrox because it pays well not because they love us?You 'are not hopefully one of the people. because if you are I feel we have no future with people like you supporting us.
PS if Ally is such a great Rangers man let him hand over the shares he got for nothing to out supporter associations. they can use them to vote for everything we the support want and prehaps start the road to recovery and be a club owned by us the fans? Do you think he will Matt. since he is so Rangers? actually we shouldn't have to ask for them, he should handed them over anyway since he loves us fans so much?

Christ sake man did I just read that? No seen as much misinformation to try & brain wash the masses since Obamas last Speech on Syria. Fans like you Matt are people like Charles Green & Craig Whytes Dream. Blind Loyalty is so 2012

Larky Bear

I read a post duriing the week about Matt's posts being almost identical to Troo Blue's lunacy. have to say after reading OP I agree completely; is it possible that these posts are specifically made by someone from inside Ibrox? I think the next couple of weeks will define what future if any the club has

05 Oct 2013 15:16:00
LOL Larky.

Quite simply total f@ckwittery of the highest order! You are either a genius at windups or a complete f&cktard Matt. Gave me a good laugh reading the replies though, priceless :0) Well done for cheering up a self confessed Gloommonger.

its because of persons like you, our club is in state that its in.
McCoist is the worst manager in our history & he is every bit as much as a leech as The others.

Yah but if McCoist plays youngsters and they loose (just like heart's youngsters r doing a fair bit and like r were doing last season sometimes) he will get slated. Also having watched hearts this season and more importantly, us, last season I can see that the quality of football teams full of them produce is also very poor (bad passing, slow tempo, etc. ) which McCoist will get blamed for two. And, lastly how is he therefore meant to win a cup, like so many r stating he should, with such a team consisting of players like McKay and gasparotto who r low end spl quality at the moment. At best. It's a catch 22, he's either producing poor results with youth or spending to much on older players? Why do people think it's reasonable/possible for ally to get a team to play really well, with only youth, spending no money and still be capable of beating spl sides If u can find a realistic choice of manager who can do all that then fine but there is no manager in all of Scottish football, prob even British football who could get a team consisting of Kyle Hutton, chris heggarty, Robbia Crawford etc. To play to the standard people here want them to. And before u say this side would not b given time to "improve" as last season was proof of that, when players were being slated for shocking displays on a regular basis. Let ally manage/build the team within his designated budget, he knows more about football than any of us.

@20 Ally hasn't the ability to build a team

Number 20

For f!$ks sake we are at the moment up against part timers who have spent all week working as well as training and playing?

If full time young players cannot match these part timers in the third tier of Scottish football, then why do we employ them?
The management are over paid chancers. They dictate the formation and the tactics and they have all week to do it!

In the name of sanity face up to the financial reality at Ibrox?

05 Oct 2013 20:59:19
As there have already been about 22 replies to matts post I cum to the conclusion he is at the windup guys, one other thing matt,? What do you mean by 'they used to say " they still do say pal

Over the moon to see that this r******* person has been found out, his posts read like a PR for ally and pals, whilst I am in support of Rangers FC and that means giving Ally a break until he is either sacked or if a miracle happens and he CAN learn how to manage (he currently is the WORST manager I have ever watched in my Rangers years from 1965 till now), the blind faith persons like this fool really are not intelligent minded fans, blinkered to their own deluded and badly informed opinions.

Agree with baybear the replies to this fool are worth having to put up with his nonsense. george

06 Oct 2013 08:47:24
120%? Is Matt Crozier really Brian Stockbridge?

06 Oct 2013 08:49:13
There are some fans who support Ally 200% so with his 120% maybe Matt isn't a real fan ;-)