Rangers Banter Archive January 31 2012

 

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31 Jan 2012 23:45:16
ally hasn't walked out and wont walk out! rangers will be goners and there will b no spl verry shortly white is a tosser and rangers will not be getting any players as white refused ally money and wage fees ! as a rangers fan this is a very sad moment ! as we are slowly but surely disappearing ! :( :(

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No Rangers.....No Scottish footbal..end of! you can dress it up whatever way you want, but if any of the old firm go....it's over.....will sky pay for no old firm games.........SPL will be sh****** themselves more than we should be.

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31 Jan 2012 23:43:41
Best demonstration we could do is not to turn up on Sunday, not fair on the players but things have to be done, show Whyte that if he does not stop lieing this is the future.

as a fan a feel ashamed to be sittin back letting this happen stand up and force the point this is still our club not TIGHTY WIGHTY,S

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Would never have agreed with this before, but, by f*** an empty Ibrox would at least induce 'the truth' from someone.

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31 Jan 2012 23:35:14
why dont we all just now turn up thi weekend, leave ibox empty, just a reflection on how we all bloody feel

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31 Jan 2012 23:33:49
Can't believe some people are actually saying...'admin mentioned again' It's an absolute 100% certainty....Rangers, cannot avoid going under now, + it's what Whyte ''needs'' to happen, so that he makes money.....let's get it done and dusted and start again....unfortunately, we are too far gone now.

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31 Jan 2012 23:30:33
Huddersfield have signed Kallum Higginbotham for an undisclosed fee from Scottish side Falkirk.
on ssn?!
we cant even compete with huddersfeild.direstraits
TODD88 {Ed001's Note - to be fair, Huddersfield are on a solid financial footing, so their chairman can actually dip into his pockets to provide for players. Murray has left Rangers in a mess, the club is mortgaged to the hilt, any cash put in is immediately swallowed up keeping the club running. I wonder if Whyte would have got involved if he realised just how bad things were.}

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Please do not even suggest that whyte did not know what the situation was. He did eight months of due dilligance. He is an asse stripper and makes his money when they go into admin. he is a vulture. {Ed014's Note - Due diligence was done ON Whyte not by him.

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Mate! we cannae compete with Hibs

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Disagree because whyte must of knew , thats what he supposedly does venture cap,just he aint got money to back it up

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Ed001- yeh dont get me wrong mate David murray isnt inoscent whatsoever. but craig whyte could atleast let us know whats happening? we just sold jelly for cheeper than expected and this kallum would of been 10th of the price of jellys sale? we have a paper thin squad and would take the pressure from healy! cheers eddy0001 {Ed001's Note - I know what you are saying, but it is difficult for him to come out and say much during the court case. There will be subjects he is unable to even touch upon or get himself in trouble.}

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31 Jan 2012 23:29:08
Tough times for us Rangers fans but truth is, MURRAY, not Whyte, has left us in the biggest pile of s!!e imaginable. I'm not neccessarily defending Craig Whyte, we would all like nothing more than a white night with endless cash to spare to bail us out but, reality is that we have to become self sufficient and clear a MASSIVE debt whenever the tax bill comes, just to continue as a going concern and keep our proud history in tact. If Whyte is here to be the scapegoat and lead us through administration, we can only hope that his intentions are for the good of the club in the long run. In my opinion, all this anger directed at Whyte is due to Murrays mistakes, if in a years time Whyte has walked away and liquidated the club, then he will be a justified hate figure. I for 1 would accept 3 years in the wilderness if I knew that we would be on a level footing and able to build our great club back up from nothing. We are a huge club with a massive worldwide support, we have the means to come back from this but there is no quick fix so let's stick together and continue to get behind the team. BlueS2

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Tell whyte to stop telling porkies then

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Agree....Murray is no daftie, and knew this guys credentials...Murray just wanted this sh** out of his toilet,,

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Agree but things could have been handled a lot better stupid bills not paid on time, no wonder people dont wont to deal with us , if hes a buisnessman im a snowman and it aint snowy here

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I agree that we have been given half truths and too much information has been withheld, Whyte has not exactly showered himself in glory, it's been embarrassing to watch but, the real damage cannot be assessed until we know the outcome of the tax cases. Imagine the complete mess of the clubs finances, so many different issues to be resolved, where do you start? It's starting to sound like I'm pro-Whyte, I'm not, I just see a lot of posts here that are just anger venting and think us bears need to look at the big picture and try to be patient. BlueS2

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31 Jan 2012 23:28:26
Lets not kid ourselves on here, the league was lost even if jelavic stayed, just not as embarrassing. Only healy upfront? What a grave situation to be in. We now rely on aluko and celik to provide AND score our goals because healy wont be consistent as he just isnt good enough. This would have been flecks chance to shine, the chance mccoist went on about. Why we loaned him i will never know but the decisions being made at ibrox these days are going beyond a joke.

Supernova

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I wouldnt give Healy a hard time.....good,bad or indifferent, the wee man will spill blood for the jersey, and not for show either.....

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31 Jan 2012 23:19:31
I cannot believe what has happened to our club. The manner in which the manager and the fans have been treated is diabolical by a so called billionaire who has driven our club to near extinction. This is not only a sad day for glasgow rangers but the knock on effect will be felt by the whole of scottish football.

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A billionaire?? the man has ''no dough'' look very closely, it's all a paper exercise, he only took over because he knew we were f*****, thats what venture capatalists do,,,good going companies are useless to them, they cant make money from them.

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31 Jan 2012 23:19:01
Not unexpected really we have no signings but so frustrating given we have got rid of half a team, Whyte is intent on taking our club down and it looks like he is going to succeed. dark days ahead but i do hope Ally stays and fights as he is all we have left.

Wullie

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31 jan 2012 23:17:55
time we started a protest at ibrox at next home game to let whyte know exactly what we think might be hard to remove him as the owner but we dont need to like him

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31 Jan 2012 23:17:50
Review of this transfer window:

IN:
Celik

OUT:
Jelavic
Mcmillan
hutton (Loan)
Fleck (Loan)
Ortiz (Loan0

So when coming into this window we needed at least 3 players, 2 strikers and a creative midfielder, we have come out of it with a winger no ones heard of and 5 players less...outrageous...

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You missed Weir but i take your point it is a disgrace

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Also Davie Weir and Bendikson +Whittaker, Broadfoot, Naisey,and Laff...long injuries. 7+4 (11) 1 in

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31 Jan 2012 23:17:39
Whyte OUT!! And take his boadroom of crooks with him. He is destroying our club.

Simple: whyte must go he's a con man end of story.ally should resign then tell fans the truth

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31 Jan 2012 23:17:05
been reading alot of these rumours and as myself and most gers fan woulnt blame mccoist for leaving after mr shytes antics destroying of beloved club. but personaly i think mccoist is no going to walk as he will keep challenging whyte for for the club and fans, he would never turns his back for anything to do with the club thas the blood in his veins. untill he is sacked he will try do the best for the club in which his heart lays.
Todd88

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31 Jan 2012 23:15:56
As I said on Sunday afternoon, I knew that we would do the jela deal late so we wouldnt have time to get anyone in, I understand we don't have money for a 2m signing but surely there was money for a decent loan signing, we must have freed up between 10k - 20k in wages today? Mccoist might walk and I think everyone would understand why, but now more than ever we need to give our support to super ally.

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31 Jan 2012 23:15:05
just looking at the rangers website to look at the squad, and jelavic has already been removed, talk about quick like

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31 Jan 2012 23:28:01
Craig Whyte is not trustworthy, he
is forked tongued, and like the
Banks only uses other peoples money
(season ticket holders). It is their
money at risk, not his. And as for
Ally, Whyte has no faith in him, a
true Gers legend in his First season.
Whyte is NOT one of us! We were
ready for cutbacks but not this.

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He is forked tonged, he's a snake

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31 Jan 2012 23:26:17
Just a wee side point. But did you see the banged up toyota ally was driving when leaving ibrox, id be suprised if it got him home. Maybe he hasnt been paid in a while. What the flippin heck is going on. We actually only have 1 striker to play, total joke

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Well if u knew that your fans were gonna be dissappointed because we have no money a ferrari would be a bad idea

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31 Jan 2012 23:25:06
I'm a big Gers fan, but I find it hilarious at all of you people with the "fact" and "100% true" posts.

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Not A time to be laughing mate
TODD88

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Agree mate, if these Facts were true we would have the best squad ever, lol might even be bigger than celtics.

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31 Jan 2012 23:23:05
got a feeling Jaager will still sign as he's still a free agent (as far as i know) ....

if no one was ever getting signed what was the point of these trials? (aside from wasting everyone's time) ...

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Heard he was off to Gdansk

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Got a feeling we r f$$ked

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31 Jan 2012 23:22:14
And when they got there the cupboard was bare! There may be trouble ahead at snake mountain. Henke

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31 Jan 2012 23:20:37
this is the worst transfer night ever no signings,no future,no money,no hope of anything this season.poor ally hope you sleep tonight.where is the future whyte promised us,just more lies.good night fellow blues hope you can sleep

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31 Jan 2012 23:20:27
david murry is the person to blame for this whole mess , he must have been aware of cw track record
he sold the club , support , players and management
down the river ,to save his own skin , the good years were all built on false accounting and bad tax
practice , and the one true saleable asset murry park he owns , so he loved the club [ i think not]. its our club and these people are supposed to look after it but i would bet all i have that in the end what ever that is sir d and cw will come out of it all
with millions , its time to decide what to do

a very unhappy bear

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31 Jan 2012 23:13:41
I think there will be very angry fans next home game! Interesting to see if the owner has the b*lls to turn up after the farce that has been rangers this season! 1 new face and too many outbound! Absolutely embarrassing and shocking times to be a bear! I am extremely sad with the outcome. Keep your head held high ally!

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31 Jan 2012 23:13:04
the pictures on stv showing ally leaving ibrox for his car suggests he has been doing everything he can to bring in replacement for jelavic.the poor guy will be livid with the situation. craig whyte's as well taking the league trophy up to parkhead right now. we have two strikers left, 1 who is a liability with no consistancy or quality with the ball at his feet and the other who simply isn't good enough. we need help from someone fast!

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31 Jan 2012 23:11:29
Ed001, can I just say how well u've serviced the site tonight. Thanks a lot. Brill job keeping up with honest, frank, non-jaded replies. Cheers. Jay {Ed001's Note - thank you mate, it has been hard work tonight!}

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31 Jan 2012 23:10:59
i will get abuse for this but mabi whyte doesnt want to show hmrc we have any money so they cant take it off us cos he noes we will lose it and is waiting to the summer to spend a bit of money or mabi am still dreamin

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Lmfao

DO you seriously think that if you pretend to be poor that the taxman will go away?

There is a paper trail the length of Ron Jeremies Walloper so you can forget that notion.

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He doesn't hide the money under a mattres you fool.

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Not a dream its a nightmare

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31 Jan 2012 23:10:57
Game on Sunday is on BBC know were I will be watching it they might be anti Rangers but not as much as whyte is. Hope your x wife takes you for every penny you have never had you low life piece of excrement and hopefully I wont be only life long Rangers fan that feels the same love to see every seat empty

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31 Jan 2012 23:10:56
Today just shows the lack of ambition at Rangers right now! Absolute disgrace!

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31 Jan 2012 23:10:41
Can not believe that we couldn't even bring in one player ! There must be fee agents on low wages we could have got , this is the lowest I've ever felt as a gers fan and have a feeling there is only more misery on the way but why did cw not just say no signings instead of us glued to ssn praying for a player or two coming in ?

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31 Jan 2012 23:09:02
all over as jelly said

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31 Jan 2012 23:08:57
as far as i no we can still get free agents but a cant see it we look to be in a really bad way a swear to god a would love to walk in to whyte the now

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31 Jan 2012 23:08:38
Can't wait until my £2k season ticket bill comes in, I am going to offer Whyte £25 and seven empty ginger bottles.
That lying bar steward will not get my money. I have had a season ticket for 41 years, and it will kill me but no more. I am not prepared to give my money to a confirmed liar and con man. You stole last year's season ticket money, but you won't steal anymore from me.

David Murray , Chris Whyte - feck you both

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As the say in these part partner

feck them
feck the horse the rode in on

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Whos Chris Whyte?

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31 Jan 2012 23:08:36
I warned yeez..................I warned yeez..................but awe no yooz knew it awe. Celik only player in an Jelavic away last min. Only excuses of no time to get replacement we are waiting on now.
SC

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31 Jan 2012 23:08:27
Someone will pop over n pick up the league trophy very shortly. Take a good look cause there's every chance new "in a row" records loom
Ps what happened to the £10-12 million bids for jelly legs!?!

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31 Jan 2012 23:08:01
whyte delays rangers acounts again an only giving the first 6 months Intriguingly, Whyte has also shortened the accounts to include just the first six months of its existence.

Documents lodged with Companies House state that it will only reveal the accounts until April 2011. Those accounts will now be published on April 16.

Wavetower Limited, the original holding company, was renamed The Rangers FC Group Limited after buying control of the club from Sir David Murray for £1 the following month.

It is not illegal to shorten accounts but the decision to do so means that Whyte has nine months’ grace to provide full disclosure of the company’s subsequent financial dealings.

As a result, they do not now need to be made public until January 2013. Rangers will shortly discover the verdict in their court battle with Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs, with the club potentially facing a £49 million bill if they lose. this man is joke 1 thing after another with whyte get this man out of our club

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31 Jan 2012 23:07:58
so rangers will have the all northern irish strike force of healy and lafferty (when hes fit) to get us throght to the end of the season,

i expect a lot of 4-5-1 formations and a lot of pressure on these 2 strikers to deliver a miracle...

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31 Jan 2012 23:07:54
Disgusting transfer window for us. So many players on trial with no intention of a deal being struck! Whyte is killing off what's left of our great club. Don't see ally leaving the club he loves but fear his hands are tied...
#LegendMcCoist

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31 Jan 2012 23:07:53
Let's make sure that whyte knows that us gers fans that pay our money every week are sick of his shyte and want him out,no point moaning and not doing nothing about it

James 1980

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31 Jan 2012 23:07:16
Jelavic out
McMillan out
Hutton out
Fleck out
Ortiz out

Get Whyte out! Get Smith out!

Cannot believe we can go down the stretch with only Healy up front. Now i know what it must be like to support Dunfermline cos that is how we are behaving.

Despite the taxman threat still hanging over us we have shown absolutely no ambition and what incentive is there fore any fan to dig deep for season icket money if it is just going to line Whyte's pockets.

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31 Jan 2012 23:06:16
Admittedly, there were transfer targets we did not secure but that is not uncommon. As chairman, I have supported Ally McCoist in his choice of targets and will continue to do so. The timing of Jelavic's departure so late in this window is far from ideal and efforts to improve the squad will continue until the transfer window closes.

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31 Jan 2012 23:06:11
Can't believe we sell and loan so many players with no one comming in discrace but rtid

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31 Jan 2012 23:05:58
Said at the start of Jan that Jelavic would go on the last day and excuse would be club had no time to sign anyone so why oh why if we cant afford anyone do we keep trying to kid on the supporters that we can with loads of trialists and low bids that wont be excepted. The current owner and his spin doctors must really think we are as thick as two short planks,last time it was all about how they had made mistakes in the summer transfer window,what was not said was that in January the club would make a bigger ass of itself under the stewardship of this so called supporter. Time to voice our opinion not simply moan on web sites. We deserve better and put aside any possible debt issue etc the very least we should expect is the TRUTH

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31 Jan 2012 23:05:54
so thats it rangers no1 in and jellyfish gone not 1 penny of that transfer to go to a new striker good luck david healy youre going to have to get ur shooting boots on what a joke!!!! whyte has alot of explaining to do mccoist should just walk now!!!!!!!!!i am ripping at whyte hope gers fans chant for his head he has told lies after lies craig the conman whyte he is a dirty sneaky snake il never go to another gers game again.

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Not Healys fault

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31 Jan 2012 23:04:21
Transfer window closed, nobody signed.

Whyte said he would allocate £5 million per year for transfers - maybe he meant he would make £5 million per year on transfers.

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31 Jan 2012 23:03:52
Ding dong that's us pumped!

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31 Jan 2012 22:57:47
Joke no replacement for jelavic don't blame ally if he walk get whyte out.

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Fourteen years with a ticket, and many more as a supporter. so let down, but if the money from the jelavich sale saves this club so be it. and to be fair it might. blue al.

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31 Jan 2012 22:57:47
ihave supported the gers all my life but i would be doing the wrong thing buying my season ticket again. we have been lied to since the start (goodwillie, juhasz, verhoek, miller) and we are now only realising it. notlooking for a de boer or a gazza, but maybe a sandaza! pains me to say it but unless we get an agm, some answers and some players ill not be back. the 'support the team' brigade simply help mr whyte and his cronies fool the rest of us just like their inwavering support for murray did. Ignorance is not bliss.

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Always wanted a gibson les paul, but could only afford an epiphone, it,s not better or worse but what you can pay for at the time mate. blue al

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31 Jan 2012 22:57:28
Well it's official rangers are not signing any 1 I can only think we must be goin in to administration or surely whyte wouldn't have had the balls to treat the fans like this I for 1 won't give whyte another penny till he explains his actions going to b a terrible next few months watching the manky mob run away wi the league

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Ffs man....are you insane? of course we are going into admin 100% its unavoidable....we actually need it to happen so that we can restart and move on.

Formed in 1872

Closed down 2012

Thank you Mr Whyte what a great job!

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31 Jan 2012 22:56:23
SSN reporting business is done at Ibrox nobody in (surprise surprise) whatever happened to Mr Whytes promises they seem to be lying around like a broken jigsaw puzzle (in pieces) what is happening to my team

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Are jigsaws not supposed to be in pieces?

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31 Jan 2012 22:54:58
No one will come in club to go under RIP Glasgow Rangers

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31 Jan 2012 22:54:54
Jelavic Gone
Weir Gone
Ortiz loaned out
Fleck loaned out
McMillian Gone
Hutton loaned out

Did I miss something, but are we not supposed to strength the squad?

bye bye 4 in a row

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31 Jan 2012 22:54:31
what is happening whyte absolute disgrace WATP

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Watp stop all this negative talk and stick together keep believing

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WE ARE TOTALLY PRATTED

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31 Jan 2012 22:54:28
sky outside Ibrox said no more business , 5 out none in
Not even a free last one out put the lights out, think partick Thistle going to get a surge of fans just shortly

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31 Jan 2012 22:53:12
So sad, angry and worried about my club and the way things are going. Ally, will always love you, you don't deserve this.

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31 Jan 2012 22:53:07
SSN just confirmed that no more business to be done at Ibrox.

I had said in the summer give Whyte time to show what he was all about and prove everyone wrong.............well people werent wrong.

Rangers fan? dont make me laugh...........he has made out club a laughing stock..........with only David Healy our only fit striker.

No 4 in a row. Sad sad times

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31 Jan 2012 22:52:48
this white is gonna strip the club of everything....you watch
you could see he was a sleekit c**t soon as look at him (ANYONE REMEMBER ALISTAIR JOHNSONS TAKE ON HIM ?)

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But you all ignored the warnings to jump on the whyte knight bandwagon..............

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31 Jan 2012 22:52:45
oh well no signing then!
craig whyte uv got got alot of questions to answer!
expect a backlash!

sir ally walk now and u dont deserve this!

in ally we trust!!

the real jinky

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31 Jan 2012 22:52:37
Oh look no signings, has the penny finally dropped?

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It has..........ally n craig banged heads going for it! green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 22:52:28
shocking ,what were we told ?free up wages we can get players in ,ally what ever you decide to do ,stay or resign youll always be a rangers legend . perth loyal

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Admittedly, there were transfer targets we did not secure but that is not uncommon. As chairman, I have supported Ally McCoist in his choice of targets and will continue to do so. The timing of Jelavic's departure so late in this window is far from ideal and efforts to improve the squad will continue until the transfer window closes.

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Also up in perth we are now a joke even st johnstone managed to get new faces, whyte has made a fool of us all. hope the record find some evidence to jail him. r i p rangers. gazamancan

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31 Jan 2012 22:52:26
We're not geting anyone in!! SSN

Defo going in to admin nxt few days a think gutted

MF WATP!

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31 Jan 2012 22:52:23
No one signed. SHOCKING RANGERS

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31 Jan 2012 22:52:05
well bears fan its about time we done a protest against craig white to get answers on wats going out cos we have lots a good player with no one comming in and we have lost our title cos of whites s**te so we should protest till we get answers from this numpty

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The person will tell ye there,s a 10m black hole in the running of rangers so we are cutting our cloth were down to vest and pants pal.....les

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Err...slightly late dont you think?

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31 Jan 2012 22:51:08
i'm disgusted at the way we've been had. I always said give Whyte a chance but it just said on TV that were done for today
EKger

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31 Jan 2012 22:45:46
Think it's time mccoist just resigned, cannie belive some clown like Craig whyte is treating a LEGEND at our club! Am disgusted by whyte! Please mccoist just quit and am sure every true rangers fan will b ryt behind u!!

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Ally is a legend however he is bad for business! I'm sure its nothing personal. Look at the players that don't even get in the team. The way forward for us is to clear out the old boys and get a new direction at ibrox!

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LOL

Clearly a "supporter" who is not aware of Legend John Greig's performance as manager!

Let me ask you something, nameless poster----

If you were facing a potential bill of £49mill for something, exactly how much money would you be willing to fork out for ANYTHING??

This is SDMs fault, NOT Whytes

daviet

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At the risk of being a social pariah here people, do you not think the money is being banked against the hmrc case. no player or no club, speaks volumes does it not. blue al

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31 Jan 2012 22:45:33
The fact that we sign no one is evidence that whyte doesnt have any faith in ally's signings! I think it's whytes way of getting ally out the door!

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31 Jan 2012 22:45:01
i am sitting here a broke man and i am not affraid to admit that
my beloved club is no longer what it used to be
teams used to fear coming to ibrox but no longer do
champions league was a guaranteed run
beating teams atleast by 3 maybe 4 goals
the atmosphere , the family
i have seen countless names come and go hoping for a contract . i have seen players leave and yet none come in . i have heard rumours in the hope they were true . i have waited and prayed but all has failed
i really seriously fear the worse

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...then write letters to SDM, Bain and Johnson and let them know!

daviet

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31 Jan 2012 22:42:06
craig whyte rangers fan my A**s so annoyed atm.

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David murray rangers fan my a**e
you mean?

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31 Jan 2012 22:44:22
Well well well just as we predicted whyte has shafted us all hang your head in shame .rangers f.c died tonight..( spelling )

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So Whyte?

Not SDM, Bain, Johnson et al?

Whyte?

daviet

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Away an no talk nonsense,with what could happen later were in the best of health
good gad almighty

things we have
a team
a stadium
good training ground
lots of fans
trophy,s

so whats happened in the scheme of things,a guy that did,nt look to keen of late is away we won 4-0 on saturday


now the future is another matter all together pal.........les

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31 Jan 2012 22:41:41
Leon best knocked celtic loan bid .many strikers do they want

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31 Jan 2012 22:41:09
Apparently Whyte even tried to sell Broxi Bear too!!

HAIL HAIL
ChrisBhoy

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Hmmmmmm

Celtic have failed to win the league in 3 years against a side who are on their knees and facing financial ruin....

FAIL FAIL

Go away....

daviet

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31 Jan 2012 22:39:55
so we have cleared in terms of wages (partial or full).....Jelavic....Weir.....Ortiz......Hutton......Fleck

and all we have signed is the boy Celik?

Our squad was garbage before now it is paper thin......

Bad times

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31 Jan 2012 22:38:10
Breaking news,broxi bear is heading out on loan to edinburgh zoo for the remainder of the season.

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31 Jan 2012 22:38:02
Hee hee hee...the fun continues....apparently your club now owes £1m to Burnley after Laffatack had played 100 games. The 100th game was the one where he got hurt.Also...notice how Rangers had one good player and had to sell him? Celtic have many great players and have kept them all while adding to our unbelievable strength with some quality players!

HAIL HAIL
ChrisBhoy {Ed003's Note - For crying out loud,how old are you ? pfft}

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What have you won

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Physically or mentally Ed?!

ChrisBoy clearly cannot recall Mr McCann who SAVED his club from going to the wall.

daviet

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Erm many great players that nobody wants, eh second class maybe. Deluded fool, at least we are skint what's your excuse

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Ed003 apparently it's something that passes as " banter "

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If you think that Celtic have many 'great' players Chrisbhoy, then don't take this the wrong way mate, you aint the brightest. That baldy defender Majstorovic, Commons, Ledley, Samaras etc, etc are all terrible players.

Your manager, isn't that good either.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Key word here is SAVED.......bet you wish you could say that about whyte eh......green jhedi

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Yes daviet....the key word there is SAVED. Is that just like Mr. Whyte?? !! lol lol

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31 Jan 2012 22:36:05
The northeast player is Leon best and rumoured spl team is the tic

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31 Jan 2012 22:33:30
Is any Rangers Fan daft enough to buy a Season Ticket for next year ?

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They need to be, it's already spent, lol.

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Sense a protest coming.

If 40,000 fail to renew season tix will Whyte finally get the messag.

Super Ally is immune but Whyte and Smith - GTF

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31 Jan 2012 22:33:25
Bendikson/McMillan/Hutton/Fleck/Kai Naismith/Ortiz/Weir Grant Adam/Cole/Jelavic 10 in total all away either for good or on loan and we cant even bring in a striker on loan has to be surely the last straw. Time to make some noises,we all know SDM responsible for the potential tax issue and we all know that recent information about Craig Whyte is not what we want to hear (no smoke without fire guys) but the bottom line is that with all the players mentioned gone at the moment it is a nonsense that we cannot even afford to bring a striker in on loan.

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31 Jan 2012 22:33:22
Not a rumour but a fact.

Fact - I love Rangers and have done since I could walk and talk:- over 40 years of watching, enjoying, etc.

We are now at a serious juncture in our history and it is not good.

I was almost prepared to be won over by some of Mr Whytes "spin" on austerity, living within our means, etc as to be honest, the whole of football will need to re-balance it's act. However to have NO youth policy, NO decent veterans and a seriously threadbare squad whilst we get players out on loan and off the wage bill is alarming. This is a perfect storm of a cocktail for our ON the field activity.

At the same time I now believe we face armageddon OFF the field and are at our lowest ebb in 136 years.

To be outbid by Hibs, Huddersfield, Bristol City et al for players who at one time would have been dribbling cones at training, is simply unacceptable.

Celtic are likely to "win" the league but not a lot of winning is really needed now.

Tell me I am wrong....

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You're not wrong. I'm glad there are some people out there who can see the immediate danger unfolding.
Whyte's statement tonight was to try to turn the fans against the Daily Record.
The truth is that Rangers debt pre Whyte was circa £18 million and as it stands just now it is in the region of £24 million. Rangers are worse off now that 'saviour' has arrived.

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No jokes! its real rangers fans like you i feel for honestly! been thru it guys...green jhedi

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I have been a season ticket holder for fourteen years and a gers fan all my life. i have never been so sorely against my club in my life. please mr whyte tell us whats going on. ally is a rangers man and a legend, if your a bear let us know,i think not. blue al {Ed003's Note - How on earth can you be 'against' your club if you are a fan?? It is times like this a club needs it's 'fans' }

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31 Jan 2012 22:30:06
No signings will follow tonight. Our market now is the out of contracts players which no else signs after the window has shut and we can haggle on wages. Based on the limited cash Ally has, I would have signed Sandaza and Jaager. Worrying times but some twists and turns for our once great club so let's keep believing and supporting the 11 who get sent out on Sunday.

Gers77

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31 Jan 2012 22:30:01
the "powers " are not spending anything because in my opinion they already know the outcome of the tax case and that we are heading for div 3.The squad is being downsized to suit that league so wait until the end of this season, McGregor , Davis, Whittaker, Edu, Lafferty and Naismith will all be put up for sale, as will Ibrox and Murray park, and we will enter a join arrangement with Queens park to use Hampden .
Ally will walk soon and we will have Durrant as coach.

Stupid ? fantasy ? nonsense ?

Anyone out there with a more optimistic plan ?

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This could be the reality of the outcome in the next year hate to say it. David Murray still owns murray park and RFC rent it.

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I agree but ally will stay as he is our man in the inside but were a paying for whitakers rash tackle and edu,s start to the season, getting the young boys we want to keep out the road till the event happens

think myself it will be a double event as hearts will take the chance to go into adminastration at the same time g_d help us

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31 Jan 2012 22:28:55
Safe to say nothing going to be done this late on day so bye bye league .

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31 Jan 2012 22:28:43
its true supper sally has walked
no money
no repect
no chance

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31 Jan 2012 22:28:42
Craig whyte ur a disgrace to rangers football club
WATP

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31 Jan 2012 22:32:05
Celtic trying to get Leon Best on loan from Newcastle , theres a player we should be looking at big powerful and a good touch

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31 Jan 2012 22:32:03
people, to quote the chick young clip from only an excuse at the new year there, "we are f*****"

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 22:19:59
Just seen the clip of Ally leaving Ibrox earlier tonight! Feel really sorry for him. It is was always going to be a tough job taking over from Smith but to do it with his hands tied behind his back is making it impossible.

I realise we are in financial meltdown but surely a little bit of money from the Jelavic sale and the freeing up of some recent wages could have been given to him to bring in a couple of the recent trialists. Why were these trialists even brought in if the money was never going to be put on the table to offer any of them a contract.

Whyte said earlier in his statement on the Rangers web site that he is a Rangers fan. He is no Rangers fan in my eyes. His treatment of a Rangers legend is a disgrace. Not one Rangers fan should turn on Ally during the toughest time in our history. He is one of us and the least we can do is give him 100% of our support.

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31 Jan 2012 22:10:21
If anyone is in any doubt just how fed up and angry Ally McCoist is just check the STV Video of him leaving Ibrox after his meeting with Craig Whyte when he clearly had failed to convince the Chairman of the need to sign any players. Looks totally disgusted would hate to see him walk does not deserve to work under this clown or conditions but if he did leave just think of the information he could provide

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31 Jan 2012 22:07:43
why does hundreds of rangers fans no go to ibrox tomorow and protest about craig whyte and have big banners

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31 Jan 2012 22:07:36
Alexander Hleb released by Barcelona... Worth a punt?

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31 Jan 2012 22:02:52
One thing that should be done is the immediate removal of the name "Murray" from the park at Auchenhowie. There should be no mention of the name of the guy who has screwed this club into the ground.It's him that we need to hear from and he should be clearing this mess up!

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How can you - he owns Murray Park and leases it to Rangers.

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31 Jan 2012 22:02:17
poor Ally, he looks one angry man coming out of Ibrox tonight... hes just not had a fair crack at the whip!!

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31 Jan 2012 21:48:21
On STV news app McCoist leaving Ibrox after being told there will be no signings. Ally it must be difficult but walk away and then tell us the truth of what that lieing con man is doing and has done. I will not be renewing my season ticket after the nonsense of the season, we have surrendered the league to Celtic and I am sorry to my fellow bluenoses buts that's how I feel tonight. Blue4ever

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31 Jan 2012 21:57:25
Fact: Craig Whyte is a business man

Fact: There is no absolute concrete proof that Craig Whyte is a millionaire never mind billionaire

Fact: Craig Whyte uses his own money to buy Rangers, £1 to be precise.

Fact: Craig Whyte can see no added bonus in winning the league to becoming second

Fact: Craig Whyte does not see the point in spending more cash to buy players to win the league when he can spend nothing and come second

Fact: Craig Whyte is asset stripping Rangers to gain as much money prior to going into administration

Fact: More Rangers players will be sold in July

Fact: Rangers will lose the tax case

Fact: Rangers have no income for the next 3 years due to the release of season tickets to Ticketus

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1. Correct
2. Possibly
3. Correct
4. Assumption
5. Assumption
6. Assumption
7. Assumption
8. You wish
9. Assumption
10. You're a fud. Fact lol

daviet

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Fact- CW is a liar
Fact- CW is a con man
Fact - CW is a bar steward
Fact - our beloved Sir DM is a liar
Fact - Sir D M is a con man
Fact - thanks to these two, we are fecked

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The galling thing is that when he came in last may he hailed his arrival by proclaiming that there was nothing but exciting times ahead for the famous club, i take it he was meaning he thinks protests are exciting then eh

james rfc 1980

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Maybe its better if we don't sign anyone if we lose the tax case!whats the point? we are going to lose the league anyway so why bother,i will still go one way or the other

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Agree with some but no income due to tickets wtf, so the only income we recieve is through ticket sales no sponsors etc aye jog on

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31 Jan 2012 21:54:59
wonder how many of Mr Whytes 4 years worth of season tickets will be renewed for next season if this is how he treats his paying fans who put up their money i think we were better run under llyods banking group

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I heard the deal was done PRIOR to Whyte's takeover?

daviet

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31 Jan 2012 21:54:04
C,mon bears keep yer head held high.We are rangers the most successful club side in the world.I know it seems all is lost but if we get behind the team and ally and we win the league we are only one point behind remember it will be our greatest ever triumph and septic and ginger bhoy will be sick.We Are The People.

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31 Jan 2012 21:51:59
even if whyte does pull something out the hat i for 1 will not be happy the way he has lied two us all this time and what he is doing two our club is beyond beleive

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31 Jan 2012 21:51:38
Just read the stv report about mccoist not bein able to get the board to sanction any sales today. I wouldn't blame him and I think he should walk away from this once great club. We have just sold our greatest asset and ally has not made 1 signing of his own. Walk away with your head held high mr mccoist, I don't think anyone would blame you.

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NO-ONE walks away from my beloved club and gets to hold his head high!

And why the Hell should they? McCoist knew EXACTLY what he was getting into when he took the job on.

I don't care if he is a Legend- he'll get no respect from me if he walks...

daviet

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31 Jan 2012 21:50:46
no one in but at least 6 out we are short in numbers as it is ?

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31 Jan 2012 21:50:36
It's oh so quiet..... Shhhhhhh..... Shhhhh!!

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31 Jan 2012 21:49:53
This is unbelievable, I have had no trust in the Charlatan Whyte since day one, and thought we might get a couple of loans and maybe one £500k guy. Ther is just over an hour and nobody.

I have to say I detest Whyte but my god talk about brass balls, he's got a pair of stoaters. Can't believe he's not giving a crumb

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31 Jan 2012 21:48:50
Ally McCoist failed to convince Rangers chairman Craig Whyte to release funds to sanction deadline day additions to his squad, STV understands.

A meeting was held between the pair at Ibrox on Tuesday evening, with McCoist arriving with a copy of the club's injury list to emphasise his need for fresh blood.

Striker Nikica Jelavic has been sold to Everton in a deal worth £5m plus add-ons, representing the loss of a player who has scored 17 goals for the club this season.

McCoist had identified Norwich City striker Grant Holt as a replacement for the Croatian, and earlier in the day had attempted to convince Whyte to table a £2m bid for his number one signing target.

Rangers instead tabled a cut-price officer for the Englishman, which was instantly rebuffed.

McCoist had other possible targets - St Johnstones Francisco Sandaza, Rapid Viennas Hamdi Salihi and Falkirks Kallum Higginbottom.

But the club hierarchy decided not to make a last minute move for any of the trio, with McCoist leaving Ibrox ashen-faced following his unsuccessful meeting.

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31 Jan 2012 21:48:37
Not looking likely we will sign anyone before deadline however I do believe we will strengthen as there will no doubt be frees available of decent quality who don't need to be signed before deadline.

Have faith!!

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31 Jan 2012 21:46:45
If Alistair Johnson is that concerned about the future of Rangers why doesn't he pump in some of his money - when he signed on it was all talk of the contacts he had in America getting involved with Rangers and blah, blah, blah - he done nothing for Rangers when he was there and if Whyte hadn't bought us we would have been in admin at the start of this season.
I am fed up with the way Whyte is running the club and keeping the fans in the dark but don't let's forget how we got in this mess and who got us there

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Thats very true, a good point

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 21:41:09
McMillan sold.
Fleck loan
Hutton loan

Why are we loaning these players out? i thought the whole purpose of Murray Park was to produce raw talent to bring through to the current first team?

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Maybe rangers dont want the young boys there when it happens

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31 Jan 2012 21:40:13
Higginbottom has just signed for huddersfield , that's another rumour put to bed. Pennyboy

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31 Jan 2012 21:39:47
whytes not getting my cash

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If he doesn't get money fromyour lot will only quicken the inevitable .....

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31 Jan 2012 21:36:43
Wot is going on mr so called chairman u r letting our great club down...gutted ger4life

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31 Jan 2012 21:35:17
looks like celik will have to play as a striker till lafferty comes bk coz looks like no striker will b signed.

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31 Jan 2012 21:35:02
surely we have free'd up about 30/40 grand a week wages with all the players that have left and only added 2 in aluko and mervan! at the beggining of today i was hopefull of 2 strikers but now il be happy just to get the 1 ha

scott brown

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31 Jan 2012 21:34:57
I think we should clear up the new TAX issue £5million, Whyte said we don't owe that much some people say its £4.88million even though we did sell the season tickets it was after April 6th 2011 so any tax wouldnt need to be paid until January 2013

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Was it not VAT? VAT payable, probably, monthly and if not quarterly. Income tax depends on pre/post 5th April each year but thats for partnerships and individuals, very unlikely any of tax payable from sales of season tickets is not due

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Wrong. You're talking about corporation tax. The £4.88m is VAT and VAT is payable on a quarterly basis.

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It was VAT n thats due in your next quarter

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31 Jan 2012 21:34:42
Just to rub salt in the wound that Hibs now signed three players just confirms the state we are in

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31 Jan 2012 21:32:37
I have my doubts that rangers will manage to bring anybody in now but if they are going after
salihi that has to happen tonight ..jaager bruins are free agents so thety can do them asap as they are free agents perhaps you are all going over the top
here I cant see the taxcase result going against us to the tune of 20mill but its still a hell of a fight
hes going to have to turn this around

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31 Jan 2012 21:29:05
Remember when Rangers just went out and signed players, none of the talk in the paper - what are Smith & Russell doing?
If Whyte is looking at finances and trying to get Rangers on a sound footing punt this pair.
Having said that Rangers fans have to remember it wasn'y Whyte that got us a £49m tax bill it was the previous administration.
Talking of which if we enter admin now and creditors agree pay off and HMRC case hasn't yet been ruled on where would that leave them if case was found in their case?

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Its time 4 demonstration get this nob out

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31 Jan 2012 21:28:56
What we have now is one of the worst rangers sides in the clubs history, the celtic side of the 90s would give us a run for our money and things are only gonna get worse.
Sky sports claim old firm battling it out for marko futacs of portsmouth but there will only be one winner. Also rumours mccoist will walk tomorrow because he got no money to spend from jelavic deal

Thomas

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31 Jan 2012 21:28:51
Nahhhh guys can't see rangers bring on anyone is far too late

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31 Jan 2012 21:25:54
Got to laugh at all this negativity on here.

There will always be a Rangers.

If you expect good times all the time, go somewhere else.

Support the Rangers through thick and thin.

Most people moaning on here didn't turn up in the early 80's when it was dire.

The days of million pound signings are gone. Get over it and support the manager and whatever team he puts out on the field.

I couldn't care if its Gascoinge or Broadfoot pulling on the famous Royal Blue, they go out with my full support.

Stick together when your club needs you or ship out.... its that simple.

Bosley.

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What a load of garbage, idiots like you that keep whyte there, the mindless ppl like you that give this liar time to strip us to the bone and then discard us like rubbish

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Nae bother bosley we will see when Celtic when the treble what you've got to say

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Pipe down you glory hunting tube.

Your meant to support your team through the rough times.

Dry your eye`s and away and support Partick Thistle ya mug.

Bosley.

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Bosley, its guys like you who CW loves in fact, he is probably hopeing that the 40,000 + season ticket holders are all like you.

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Finally someone talking with some sense. Good on ya Bosley. Tired of all the drama queens on here. I for one like the idea of being the underdog now. Each win will be just that much sweeter.

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Well you can't really be a passionate supporter if none of this shambles bothers you

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31 Jan 2012 21:22:22
this is getting really bad now at rangers no new players its a complete joke we needed at least two strikers wen jelavic was hear now we need if this window shuts an no players in then whyte can kiss goodbye two staying at rangers cause wee dont want him

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31 Jan 2012 21:21:53
I see Conway has scored for Cardiff again tonight now he is one that i would have pushed the boat out for and he was avail on a free at the start of the season.I want to see signings tonight like the rest of you but there is no point in signing guys who are going to warm the bench,only sign guys who can make an immediate difference and start games.

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Conway was shown round murray park.you have to ask why? green jhedi

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Listen, green jhedi or whatever your pathetic name is, away you go and concentrate on the mighty tic and leave the bears to their own devices

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 21:16:14
Time for a protest c'mon blue order get it organised before game on Sunday whyte is just handed the Celtic the league jelivic can bugger off. Everton when did they last win something

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Ha, a protest, more like civil war, or a full scale revolt

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 21:14:31
good luck jelavic u were a gr8 player

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Not in the last 3 months

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Not all season. He was great last season then got injured. This season didn't turn up at all except to take penalities. It was evident he only signed with the intention of moving to England after one season.

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31 Jan 2012 21:12:30
Surely weve got more than £5.5 mill for jelavic ! if that really is all thats very poor business, even if its all up front !

FauldsRFC

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31 Jan 2012 21:11:41
ally MCoist didnt look a happy chappy on stv news a wonder if he knows sumit we dont .W.A.T.P

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Maybe told Whyte to feck off and resigned. I would not blame him.

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31 Jan 2012 21:11:37
Is it true that ally has walked??

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Hope so!!

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31 Jan 2012 21:10:22
Whit the f#^k is going on tonight another player loaned out in Kyle Hutton and no transfer activity, with our current squad if we get any more injuries were fecjed ! And remember Bartley can be requested by arsenal at any time. Get your finger out whyte clock is ticking.

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31 Jan 2012 21:07:37
seen the donkeys from blackpool beach at murray park on a weeks trail, lads thats all we will get, keep the faith

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31 Jan 2012 21:07:27
Is it me or is it pathetic that even hubs can beat us to sign players last I heard Carlos was on trial with us ! Why does ally waste his time with stupid bids I know we are skintight but why bother with a bid that is bound to be declined! We offered 1million for holt ! He's easily worth 2.5million even with his age big powerful striker would do amazing for rangers but no we waste our time with stupid low bids. If we can't afford a decide bid why bother bidding at all why cause the embarrassment to the club?

Brian the Bear

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31 Jan 2012 21:06:30
just seen jelavic interview cant wait to see him flop buy buy jellyfish.

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Harsh mate,what would you do if your workplace was about to go down the pan? The guy is croatian ffs,he has no ties to rangers so good luck to him

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What you on about? he wont flop he'll score goals for everton.

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Don't be disrespectful hes scored allot of crucial goals for us and I will never forget his goal in Scottish cup final against celtic, good luck to him

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He's no different to any other player nowadays. They are mercenaries, whose only goal is to make as much money as is possible before their careers are over.

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Well considering it was the league cup final u prob shud forget that.

Drew

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League cup final,never forget it eh! mug

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31 Jan 2012 21:03:24
if there is no new players at the club i propose a protest a ibrox at the weekends game.we as fans have to start forcing the matter.we need the full truth about that is happening at rangers and what craig whyte is going to do with the club.

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He is going to put the club into administration then take a wedge then others will take over whats left it better NOT be Murray

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Agree lets continue to support the players on Match day but force the issue with Whyte by continuing to demand explanations or should that be truth at every home game till we get them.

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There is something been hidden by the board and we as the supporters should be kept in the know even if its bad then we wont get a massive shock

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"There is something been hidden by the board and we as the supporters should be kept in the know even if its bad then we wont get a massive shock"

what you on about its simple we have no money and may have to pay up to 50 Million, fed up with people saying there's something we dont know this is massive enough

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31 Jan 2012 20:59:54
if rangers are to go out the game it would be better if you run up debt would it not.....les

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31 Jan 2012 20:58:28
Jellyfish at Goodison, laughing all the way and grateful he'll be getting his wages this month! Ho Ho Ho....yes are sh1te and yes know yes are!

HAIL HAIL
ChrisBhoy

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3 in a row pal, and you know it. we still welcome the chase, whats the score in league titles ? aye thought so. 54 - 41

james rfc 1980

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Why do you keep saying yes?
Dmrangers

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No rangers no septic the epl dont want you's

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I'm all for freedom of speech and I realise this a banter page, but seriously some of the comments from Celtic fans go beyond banter some of these. Comments are gloating and meant to offend. {Ed001's Note - obviously you fail to understand what banter is.}

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Come back when you've won 54 titles and are the most succesfull team in the world
shotts rfc

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@shotts rfc: deffo the most succesfull team in div 3! ENDGAME

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31 Jan 2012 20:55:27
fellow bears , one thing that is making me really worried(apart from the obvious) is what do we not know, we have only heard about some of the financial stuff because of leaks in the press or otherwise, there must be more stuff happening.. i also cant see anybody buying whyte out as he is a shady bar steward,. craigy+nowlittleworriedbabybear

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31 Jan 2012 20:54:42
hope mccoist grows a pair and walks then tell us the truth about the conman whyte he is a snake.

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31 Jan 2012 21:04:21
its devastating seeing the rangers like this we need a striker at least or we are totally screwed

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31 Jan 2012 21:03:31
Just watched Jelavic be paraded at half time. Now gers 1 and only striker that is fit is healy, we are doomed
Tully

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Maybe we could get whyte to put the season ticket money on rangers to win the league so as we can have money for the next transfer window.

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You not heard?its all spent...............

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31 Jan 2012 21:02:15
if rangers are to go out the game it would be better if you run up debt would it not.....les

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Let's make partick thistle the new glasgow powerhouse

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31 Jan 2012 20:54:05
Would like Ally or anyone connected to answer the question of why did we at the start of the window say that we will have funds to buy and we do not need to sell. Then we bring in trialists lost count the amount when we obviously couldn't afford their wages bit of an insult to them. Thenwe start selling people on the last day with no efforts to bolster squad. Left with no strike force and the rest of the park no back up. So do they really expect us to pay fr our season tickets next season with what we at left to watch for the rest of this seas

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31 Jan 2012 20:53:25
BREAKING NEWS!!
Sally McMoist to resign as manager and sign up on a one week deal as replacement for Nik Yer Jellyfish.

HAIL HAIL
ChrisBhoy

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Without rangers celtic are nothing more than east stirling

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31 Jan 2012 20:51:14
Jelavic signed a 4 year deal . £5.5m Congrats to Celik titles yours , wouldnt be surprised if Coisty Walks Sad Time to be a Bear . Norrieb

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Did he take his league medal with him for this season ?

5.5m ? what happened to the 10m evaluation ? LOLOL

lenny

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Calm down 1 point behind the manky mob

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You were 2nd in league with him, he wouldnt have made a difference!

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31 Jan 2012 20:50:31
Just been told there are a few outside broadcast units at Murray park just now were definitely there today as I saw them why if it's true are they there now anyone confirm?

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31 Jan 2012 20:49:48
's play by play of the everton game says the deal was 5.5m

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31 jan 2012 20:48:29
six million? sssssiiiiixxxxxx million?!?!?!?!?!

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31 Jan 2012 20:48:09
everton have confirmed the signing of nikica jelavic on a 4 and a half year contract,deal done.skysports transfer centre.just over 2 hours to find a replacement.it is not going to happen.we all new this would happen but still whyte has done nothing to help ally.

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31 Jan 2012 20:42:05
All this negativity and no signings must put a downer on the whole squad. theres so much pressure on these players

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Totally. bang on. impossible to succeed now.

james rfc 1980

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I have a lot of pressure in my work but dont get paid 10k a week, ill take that pressure any day of the week driving my aston martin db9

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31 Jan 2012 20:39:55
what the hell is going on at rangers.we have a tiny squad as it is then they allow 2 boy to go on loan and one to allow to leave today,shocking.why are we waiting until the last day of the transfer window to try and sign anyone.whyte has been saying that ally had to let players go before he could get anyone in,well that is over half a dozen players now that have went out on loan or left.where are the replacements.also is shows how bad things are when hibs can sign jorge carlos before use.it just show how little money there is.he is probably only on 1-2 grand a week.shocking

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31 Jan 2012 20:46:34
And in an immediate update to the Jelavic story, Everton have confirmed the arrival of the Croatia international from Rangers on a four-and-a-half-year deal. Full story soon.
Lets get the finger out and sign some players
In Ally We Trust!

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31 Jan 2012 20:39:03
Ed can you enlighten the Gers support on anything you think we should know buddy . Things are very quiet . {Ed003's Note - Avoid buckfast and always wear a condom }

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31 Jan 2012 20:38:34
Just had to switch off the Everton/City game as they just announced that Jelavic has completed move and will be paraded on the pitch at half time like a circus monkey.

Good riddance, never wanted to play for us anyway.

CC

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You switched it off?? Why?? It was marvellous to see!

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ChrisBhoy

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Disgraceful, how can you call yourself a Rangers fan.

Before we signed Jelavic he admitted that he was coming to us to put himself in the shop window and that his dream was to move to the premiership. Maybe he hasn't went to the big club he thought he would but let's be honest our chairman came out today and stated that we cannot knock back any large offers for any of our players so lay off the guy. He scored 30 goals in 45 games for us so the least we can do is wish him well.

Good luck Jela

The Pilot!

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Back to your own site, sorry, i guess this is your own site eh, more interested in gers than your own lot.

james rfc 1980

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It's unwise and disrespectful to talk of "shop windows". I for one couldnae really give a monkey's how he does now. My sole concern is the awful state my team's in.

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Just like laughing..

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31 Jan 2012 20:38:29
Jelavic to be paraded at half time vs city! Now confirmed toffee........ 3.5 mil plus add ons, use really are desperate for money!

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Fee around 7million accorrding to sky sources!!

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It was 5.5m ya diddy R/R

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5 million

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31 Jan 2012 20:37:24
Jelavic confirmed as an Everton player, so if the cash is guaranteed we need to spend some of it. NOW!

The Pilot!

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31 Jan 2012 20:37:19
Jelavic to be paraded at half time in Everton game!

Give McCoist money to bolster squad CW!

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31 Jan 2012 20:36:09
if mccoist resigns, ill take the job cos no one else will go near whyte, the only experiance ive got is taking an under 14's team at school

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I`m good at blaw fitba

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If mccoist resigns i will do his job cause i could do a better job than him. At least our own young lads would get a chance with me, not the usual clubfoot and mucculloch crab all serves up.

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You're over qualified!

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ChrisBhoy

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31 Jan 2012 20:28:46
coisty's chucked it and fair do's if he has. whyte is a disgrace

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31 Jan 2012 20:36:09
looking thru the posts since whyte put his propaganda on the RFC website i find it hard to understand why some fans still seem to back him.what cant be denied is his intention of running rangers with fiscal prudence.the big problem is the way he seems to have gained control,ifwhat was printed in the paper is false i would expect his lawyers to be on the case as we speak.to claim he has backed mccoist on transfers would seem to be nonsense,the ongoing transfer shambles suggests mccoist didnt seem to know what kind of budget he had.free transfer players who only needed average wages,players told to go after,in some cases,an hours trials.this means mccoist is a bad judge of a player or the scouting system is a joke.how many of these players did mccoist actually see before they arrived? if none,then who thought they were of rangers quality? it would appear celtic are years ahead of rangers in scouting and sourcing players.if money is as tight as whyte suggests why is gordon smith employed as thru this whole sorry saga he has been invisible? when he turned up to watch a trialist who had already left should tell you everything.while i feel mccoist has been treated shabbily i think even he night admit to some mistakes,but as a young manager,and club legend,fans would forgive him.rumours abound of friction between him and smith,indeed with the whole coaching staff.whats needed is cards on the table.if whyte dznt want mccoist as manager let him go.if smith has blame let him go.this is as serious as it gets and whyte must be asked hard questions.#1;if you cleared the 18m with your own cash where did the up front season ticket money go and why did you have to sell another seasons worth to pay the first installment? #2what are your plans regarding the tax case if the result is a huge bill of say 35m? #3two dates have passed with still no accounts signed why? it now rests squarely on the rangers fans to demand a meeting and the various fans representatives not to just accept a custard cream,tea and a pack of lies.

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31 Jan 2012 20:35:08
it hurts to b a gers fan right now just a complete disgrace!!!!craig whyte the conman.

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31 Jan 2012 20:33:16
what does gordon smith do at ibrox big pay to arrange loan deals out of ibrox

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He dznt know!

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31 Jan 2012 20:31:23
rangers are tryin so sign a czech called provi

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I take it, thats its a loan

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Clever! green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 20:10:29
Rangers are becoming a joke, I will continue to go to games and support the team but the way it's going we will struggle to be second best in Scotland never mind champions, if hibs can out compete us for players then we are in trouble, and we are.

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Are already a joke!

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31 Jan 2012 20:09:37
Rangers season book price hike due to CW using our cash !

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No chance Mr conman.

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31 Jan 2012 20:09:25
celtic fan here . i come in peace. maybe whyte is gettting these below par players in for a reason. he knows a lot more than hes letting on thats for sure.maybe he already knows the outcome of administration. if , like livingston you are relegated to 3rd division the sub standard players would get u back up to spl. . ps feel sorry for mcoist , hope he will still be a legend for rangers fans.

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What you talking about.!...McCoist will always be a legend to Rangers fans. R/R

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Ally's reputation has already suffered this season. It's heartbreaking but true.

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Cant see that, surely if he knows he is going to go into administration then spend the Jelavic money (its only going to go to the taxman after he has been paid anyway) and keep the fans off his back. Once we go into administration all the players become free agents so we do not need to honour the contracts and they are free to sign elsewhere. Then we start again with a new squad in the 3rd division.

Still don't think this will happen, but beginning to think that the fans need to demand answers right away.

The Pilot!

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31 Jan 2012 20:06:57
Is it true what I am hearing, that is that the manager has quit, I could not quite make out what everyone was saying for all the laughing.

Have I posted on the wrong page (NO I HAVE NOT)

Its great to be a bear , aye right.

Lost Bhoy 50

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Its still great be be a bear

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31 Jan 2012 20:06:49
spl title going to celtic if no replacement comes in
rfc

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31 Jan 2012 20:05:59
I would not blame Ally if he was to walk he was so excited to manage his boy hood heros and all Craig Whyte has done is make him a scapgoat! a gave Whyte the chance when alot of other fans didnt but this is the last straw he has sailed us down a one way river! i feel so sorry for Ally and now fear that whyte is in fact going to keep stripping our famous club down till theres nothing left in ally we trust get Whye out out out!
WATP
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Lol at weecraig on here eating humble pie after bigging up craig whyte for months.... This is only the start ya muppet theres much worse to come!! Cant wait can you?

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I hope ally does walk cause as a manager he not good!!

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31 Jan 2012 20:04:03
Edinburgh zoo are in for broxy bear. Confirmed.

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Mate him with the panda's and sell the wean's. lol

pappy

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31 Jan 2012 20:02:01
like i said start of last week jelavic will go for 6m tops
people laughed and mocked me
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31 Jan 2012 20:28:14
Here's a scary fact guys we have a squad of 27 now (including the injured players) Celtic have a squad of 34 with 8 out on loan! Jesus F**k! ha
Dmrangers

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We are up s*** creek pal methinks, last year we had jela, miller, naismith and lafferty all in the squad fighting for a title and now ? yes, we have none of them and we are expected to accept that ? they are having a laugh.

james rfc 1980

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Squad of 27 we must have some amoun of injuries because we can hardly fill the bench and that was before today when I think the next to be sold is the janitor {Ed003's Note - Not Penry surely }

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31 Jan 2012 20:27:40
I think it's important to stick by ally no matter what. U can't take his rangers legend reputation away from him all because his chairman didn't give him a chance to be a good manager!!

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31 Jan 2012 20:25:35
i personally back ally to quit, why should a legend like himself put up with this crap. How much more of this can us gers fans take. It's crazy

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31 Jan 2012 20:24:40
i am 35 years old and have been a rangers supporter all my life if you are looking at this mr white you should be ashamed of your self if you dont give ally any cash from the sale of jelavic you are a disgrace to all ur rangers fans WHY are u doing this to us you are nothing but a SNAKE in the grass calling yourself a life long fan you are only out for yourself when you first took over this great club you promised the world only to stab each and everyone of us true rangers fans in thr back i HATE YOU

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C'mon the warning signs have been there for years but it was all a tim conspiracy...

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31 Jan 2012 20:15:25
Those of you who claim McCoist is due to quit are more gullible than those nuggets posting that Grant Holt was signing earlier. McCoist loves Rangers, it's in his blood. He has no back because there is no money to back him with after the mess that crook Murray left the club in. We are on our knees and McCoist would never walk out on us at a time like this.

Get real.

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Ally, a true rangers legend is being made to look like an idiot by whyte. He should go now and distance himself for the Charlatan.

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31 Jan 2012 20:19:33
Well i did say a few times that Rangers wud get 10% of the Jelavic fee. 5 mil for him and the embarrassing 500k offer for Holt confirms it. It is quite annoying as a Celtic fan that my source is from within ibrox.

Drew

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The bid for holt was a PR stunt we will see if McCoist gets anything which I doubt he will

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31 Jan 2012 20:14:14
Wish Jelavic the best of luck for his future.

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Aye good luck Jella

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I don't he's just used us and left asap.

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Another one shoved out the door for money, just like hutton, thomson, mendes, miller (for buttons by the way) the list goes on, but we will be back guys, wont we....

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 20:12:19
Not a rumour, but fact and apologies if someone posted earlier. Statement on Rangers FC website by Chairman Whyte rubbishing the Daily Record's mythical piece of journalism this morning and attempting reassure Rangers' fans.

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31 Jan 2012 19:45:03
kyle hutton has signed a 1 year extension but is signing on loan to dunfermline

scott brown


Kyle Hutton away to Dunfermline on loan. More players out none in.
Joke!

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31 Jan 2012 19:41:12
if rangers dont bring a striker in this window i reckon whyte will be more hated than lennon haha

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I find it very hard to disagree with that.

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 19:37:00
Ally you are a legend past and present, can't believe the way you and the fans are being treated, no one would blame you if you walked, you have had promise after promise broken by Mr Whyte this guy can't be trusted. I do not believe a thing that comes out of Mr Whytes mouth. The gets fans need to get behind the team at times like this.

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31 Jan 2012 19:57:36
BEARS STOP BEATING OURSELFS UP
The negative postings are from SNIDY Celtic fans who want their we tuppence worth due to them loosing the league the last three years to us with no money and old men, THERE HURTING.
WE will have at least two players in tonight and two other free agents by the weekend.
We can win this league andwouldn't it be sweeter after the Glasgow 49rs ( that's how many first team player they have) tried every thing to beat us and we let JELLY go
WHYTE at least put his head in the block and for what ever happens I will thank him for that.
WIZARD {Ed014's Note - The negative posts are coming in from Rangers fans as well.I see a lot of e-mail tags I recognise.Open your eye,it is not just Celtic fans on the wind up here.

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31 Jan 2012 19:52:52
OMG...hutton has just signed on load with dunfermline!! What the fook is going on? already a threadbare squad and we have shipped out fleck, ortiz, mcmillan, and jelavic and zero additions.

And we have had Craig Whyte giving us the supporters the "Truth" on the RFC website stating that we will be working until 11pm to bring people in...LYING BARSTEWARD!!

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31 Jan 2012 19:52:19
If Rangers do not sign anyone following the sale of Jelavic, they'll be an outcry from the fans.

Someone got it spot on an earlier post. McCoist didn't look too happy after meeting with Whyte. Looks like our teas out!

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Disaster

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 19:49:18
phone peter dean your debt expert, become debt free in 3 years!

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They better fone him 100 times mate,artybhoy

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31 Jan 2012 19:36:05
Kyle Hutton signs a 1 year extension an has went out oan loan to Dunfermline

J91

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31 Jan 2012 19:33:31
Former Rangers chairman Alistair Johnston has told BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound that "there are more revelations to come" at the club.(don't know bout my fellow bluenoses but i have been fuming all day)

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Agree mate was kinda hoping that we might prove it wrong by bringing somebody decent in, but im absolutely gutted at the minute

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Heart has been well and truely ripped out now, enough is enough.

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 19:29:30
Ed prob wont post this but its time to vote with our feet. Were not happy so what do we do? Have a wee moan on a website... Wow Mr Tight will be shakin in his boots. Never mind boycott the record. Boycott this idiot. He didnt mind the glory when he was raising the league flag. And what do we get in return? Heehaw. I for one wont be back til hes oot. Widnae gee him oxygen if he wis drowning the wee cretin. Watp

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Aye you sound like a 'real' fan of the club. Get all fans to boycott games, so club loses out financially. Nice one sherlock.

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Wee are already missing out wood u rather us coming 3rd 4th miby 5th in the spl nxt year or by the looks of things this year open your eyes pal white is out for him self not us

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31 Jan 2012 19:28:18
If we do not sign a couple of decent players today. I beseach all rangers fans to protest at the Dundee Utd game. This guy has to go, before we go to the wall

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31 Jan 2012 19:27:16
.....Timalloy's Take on The Tax Case......

For Sale: OSTRICH FARM ( contact Mr C Whyte, Edmiston Drive, Glasgow, G51 )

Mr Whyte addresses all Rangers Fans:
And Now The End Is Here!
The Final Countdown!
Who's Sorry Now?
Unbelievable, That's What You Are!

Celtic Fans Take On Happenings at Ibrox:
It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like CHRISTMAS!
It's A Great Day For The IRISH!
LOL Timalloy (plenty more to come.....)

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Aye very good sad act. one for you, only the lonely. blue al

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Timalloy Do you spend your whole days thinking about Rangers?

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Timalloy getting one last quote in before he is sent to off to bed by his mumsie.

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31 Jan 2012 19:26:23
Ally McCoist has met Whyte tonight and resigned. No further business will be done.

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31 Jan 2012 19:23:36
the guy who posted this:

"Now we have Taco who's jumped on the band wagon with posting comments, its actually now starting to become boring."

i haven't jumped on any bandwagon, i've been posting on here for around 2 years now. my name and email address are filled in every post i've made, and i'm sure the Ed's can back this up


taco {Ed001's Note - to be fair I have seen his email around for a while.}

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Thanks for posting this Ed:)

taco {Ed014's Note - I'll back that up as well taco.

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Aye, but he is still boring ed, you can t deny that eh? {Ed014's Note - I actually like reading all the bickering but none of you fight back,its always just silly name calling.Posts that don't add anything to the thread just get deleted.

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As ED014 says, it is a BANTER site, we are giving it BIG to you for all the hard times in the past, no Tim remembers anyone saying we need Celtic, or if Celtic die so does Scottish football, it is all you bleating bears crying, instead of taking action. We Celtic fans saved our club, you bears are just sitting around moping and blaming everyone else. Grow a pair all of you and save your club. Timalloy

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31 Jan 2012 19:23:10
gaffer needs to start buying before the end of transfer window or we can kiss title goodbye

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31 Jan 2012 19:20:52
craig whyte backs mccoist in all his transfer targets haha biggest pile of crap ive ever heard.

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31 Jan 2012 19:14:51
What's the point of Signing anyone we have no chance of winning the league anyway with administration coming

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31 Jan 2012 19:10:39
join the protest ibrox 5th february 3pm

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31 Jan 2012 19:09:47
Why have we got rid of Jordan McMillan ?

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I have not got an earthly mate, baffling doesnt quite cover it

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 19:06:25
I have stated on here on numerous occasions that whyte is a liar and a con man. I usually get some nonsense that he was the only one to stand up. Well all that have backed him should now realise that this man is a disaster waiting to happen. I have followed Rangers for forty years and never has there been anything like it. We have to vote with our feet, and I for one won't be back until he has gone. Let him see how many season tickets will be bought this year. This action is going to hurt the club but let's be honest it is a matter of time before the inevitable collapse happens. The sooner it happens the sooner the Charlatan is gone.
He had lied every time he opens his mouth. There is no money, and I posted yesterday that the rumour was that the season ticket money from last year was missing. Not so far from what was reported today. This one is going to put us under. I know that Sir DM is the one to blame, but this guy is a vulture stripping the flesh to the bones. The clue is that this is how he makes his living. A leopard does not change its spots.
We need to let him hear loud and clear that he cannot do this to our club, he needs to be long gone and we need to send himon his way, and quickly

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What a refreshing change to the usual rubbish you are mentioning.

totally agree that the only way for change is to refuse to buy season tickets. lets face it, the club is facing administration, so your season ticket money will basically just go into his pocket, you might as well throw it away.

i genuinely feel sorry for the likes of yourself mate, a bear with a bit of common sense


taco

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31 Jan 2012 19:01:55
Get round to Ibrox and start the demo's NOW!!!

Gerry The Ger.

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What? What? Gerry the Ger has FINALLY, seen Whyte for what he is, now if only he can persuade the rest of the ostriches? hail hail Timalloy

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Think you'll find I was never a supporter of Whyte Timmy. Now jog along rukker, you need to be up early in the morning to collect your giro and your phantom tickets for the phantom matches you go to.

Gerry The Ger.

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31 Jan 2012 19:00:50
Why do us fans take this crap from Craig Whyte .. he has done absolutely nothing and he has had 2 transfer windows to impress and win over the fans.. its time for us fans to take a stand, jesus christ we are an absolute laughing stock and whoever thinks otherwise, GET YOUR BLUE TINTED SHADES OFF and realise the mess that we are in..

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31 Jan 2012 18:59:17
To be quite honest deadline day has been a disgrace so far for Rangers, Jelavic being allowed to leave for £5-6 million when Rangers supposedly valued him at £10m and West Ham were offering £7m
Then a 3rd promising youngster has left, Jordan McMillan to Dunfermline, this is after Thomas Kind Bendiksen and John Fleck.

And it will be a complete shambles altogether if we don't go back in for Grant Holt after our 1st bid was rejected.

Only 2 players we have been linked with that could replace Jelavic are Grant Holt and Javi Guerra.
I will be ashamed if we bring in Sandaza or Higginbottom or someone.

Templeton wouldnt be a bad signing but get real we need a £2m striker like Holt or Guerra.

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31 Jan 2012 18:58:47
Mr thyte dosnt deserve the 50,000 fans tht go to ibrox at wkends championship teams can do more business than us complete shambles the man clearly has no money n he dosnt have the right to sell jelavic wen murray was the one tht paid for him , only business a want to see tonite is whyte gettin to fack

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31 Jan 2012 18:52:18
Rumours floating about quoted by SSN are that Rangers are looking at Sandaza, Higginbottom, Templeton or Murphy as replacement for the sale of Jelavic WHEN he signs for everton. Hopefull we could bring in Murphy and templeton from that list both are you promising players and would do a job for the champs!!

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We should get grant hold be quick come on craig white get your money in aswell because jelavic has gone to evarton

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We are not buying anybody

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31 Jan 2012 18:51:32
If jelavic leaves and sandaza comes in to replace him then we will officially have the worst strike force ever in our proud history.
Whyte is a disgrace.

Fraser

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31 Jan 2012 18:48:04
Derek Johnstone on the radio now saying theres worse to come in the papers tomorrow! Yeeeerhaaaaa oh and your signing no one!!! Lmao at you paupers!!

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Thanks for your concern,reminds me of when the Bunnet saved your bacon,i suppose what goes around comes around,anyway,good luck with the title attempt,might be fourth time lucky,but i hope not.Rangers Champions

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Yeah lidl have put 10p on a carton of apple juice.Im shocked,forget Jackson and the Airdrie bigot,Traynor,frantic at everything Rangers.

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Do you remember fergus mccann??? he saved celtic from extinction which was hours away so get off yer high horse

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But he did save us.......!!..col

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Aye i remember .... But whos gonna save yous? It took minty moonbeams 5 years to sell it for........ Wait for it........1 pound!! Lmao i hope you go extinct kapoot no more i despise everything your rotten to the core debt ridden club stands for!

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Jealousy is a terrible thing,

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31 Jan 2012 18:43:13
mccoist must no we aint going to believe the lies him and craig tight come out with 2morrow he must b dreading waking up in 2morrow morning i think he will walk.

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He should and will walk this weekend and will spill the beans, should be interesting

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He didnt look happy when he was leaving ibrox. i wouldnt blame him if he walked

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31 Jan 2012 18:42:48
i'm so sick of the tv,news papers and our own fans that are trying there damdest to bring the club down.give it a break,wait and see what happens,if it gose ape then go for it.

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I think we have waited long enough

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Is the weather nice up on your home planet ya flaming loon?!? It's all over. A horrible chain of events. Sold down the river by the bank and the old board to this crook who might well finish us. Muppets like you won't believe it until the stadium's just rubble for reasons only known to yourself.

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I'm sick of fans like you.

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Because of ppl like you that this liar is still here. Take the hints he's a crook

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31 Jan 2012 18:40:47
Just heard rangers are in for Kenny Miller on loan with Craig White ready to sanction the move with his own cash apperntly he done his tax return on line today and is due a rebate!!

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Away back to your bed, kenny miller is in a league cup final in England, cardiff fans were singing his name last week

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Think the point has been missed there by a mile, oh how ironic. blue al

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31 Jan 2012 18:40:25
if whyte has not got money to put into the club why buy them.there is something not right about him purchasing the club.why does he not sell some for his shares to get money in,instead of selling the best player at the club.if jelavic is sold tonight it only show's that the owner is not interested in winning the league which is just a kick in the mouth for all fans.he could wait till the summer when sell him when we would have a much better chance of finding a suitable replacement.if this is the way he intends to run rangers what incentive does this give the fans."PAY YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO COME TO SEE A TEAM THAT IS GOING TO GET WORSE AND WORSE AS HE SELLS ALL THE BEST PLAYERS AND REPLACES THEM WITH CHEAP USELESS s**t.why can celtic afford to have a much bigger squad than us when they only spend within they means.they only make a couple of million more than us a year to run the club.there is something far wrong and i fear for our great club with "whyte" as the owner.he should just admit that rangers are to big a club for one man to own if they are not mega rich.find a new buyer and make yourself a sew million quid or sell the club to the fans.

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Didnt hear yous complaining when uz were buying top name players with dodgy dealings!

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31 Jan 2012 18:38:51
Well well isn't it just a shock to learn that ally is not allowed to try and bring in a replacement for jelavic? How much longer can Mr Whyte sell us and the club down the river? I know ally loves the club, but if I were him I would be considering my position with Mr Whyte in charge

Orange Tam

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Must admit i,ve got to agree with you there tam but to be fair the alarm bells were ringing for both us and ally when we needed to strenghten the squad for europe and nothing happened. blue al

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31 Jan 2012 18:32:08
Mr Whyte has made a statement this afternoon and can be read on official site regarding todays story in the Daily Record. What do you think ed? Is he to be trusted?
PortBear {Ed014's Note - Hmmm no comment.It doesn't look good.

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Why would you even ask if he can be trusted, how many hints do you need. The man is a liar and a con man and a thoroughly dodgy character. He should not be allowed in Ibrox, never mind owning us

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31 Jan 2012 18:36:50
Here's a number that you might find useful tomorrow.

08457 909090
Samaritans

Jungle Bhoy.

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Thanks mate ,who said Celtic fans had no heart.

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We can't afford to ring them FFS. 4.6p a minute

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Are they any good JBoy?

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31 Jan 2012 18:29:26
TV are reporting that Rangers wont bring in anyone else before the 11pm deadline, if that is true then i will not be supporting the club until there is real investment, how can we carry on the seaon with David healy as our only fit striker, its f***ing shambles, i know were in trouble with our finances, but weve just got £7million for jelavic, at least make £1million of that available to Ally, we thought it was bad when sir Walter was at the helm, for me its got even worse with Whyte and Ally, not saying its Ally's fault, but i feel he's like a puppet, with whyte working him, Mccoist looks like hes being told what to say in press conferences, hes not speaking from the heart, because if he was he'd be as passionate and annoyed as the rest of the rangers fans, yet he comes over calm and collected, giving the same answers week in week out. surely we can afford a coule players, even if its a loan, weir,fleck,mcmillan,jealvic,ortiz, surely our wage bill is now a lot smaller + the jelavic fee, if we dont sign a single player b4 11pm, then it is and absolute f***ing digrace!

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"Haw ah'll no be supportin ra bares til we git sum gid playurs in."

All that's going to do is dent the team further. How about just supporting the team because they're Rangers and you've supported them all your life and they more than ever need your support?

Hard times, but the facts are the club have as good a pool of potential players to pick from as the rest of the financially crippled SPL (who for years have lived off free transfers) bar Celtic. You're all of a sudden going to desert them though because they can't afford to buy foreigners or compete with bigger clubs down south?

Pretty pathetic. The guys in the boardroom might be questionable characters but regardless of who the club is or it's history the team don't deserve you to desert them just because their teammates didn't cost 5M. Grow up ffs.

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31 Jan 2012 18:29:34
Heskey at rosshall for medical ! Great replacement

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Why rosshall are Rangers medicals not done at Murray Park

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I hope this is not true.the guy has never been a goal scorer and does not do a lot of work.we need someone how can score goals and has a bit of a work rate.if the club has no money and whyte is a true fan that he keeps telling us that he is why do he not finance a deal buy himself and use the money from the jelavic sale to run the club.

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Jesus christ. I'd rather have Broadfoot playing up front

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Rangers dont use ross hall for medicals!

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31 Jan 2012 18:29:15
celtic going for another striker wat is goin on we r knackered and dnt see ally geting a penny can see the fans going mental on sunday at ibrox dnt blame them its just geting worse and worse.

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Honestly the rangers fans need to man up & get the answers from whyte,some are still in fairly land over whyte.

whytes aim is to admin rangers & walk away 18m richer,no bad for 1 years work ? at the end of the day, 18m is more than a enough for him & his family to live off for the rest of their days so dont think he will care who or what gets said about him in years to come.

as a tic fan its funny to watch,hes just dragging the club through the mud over & over again. hes not doing scottish football any favours either but in his eyes who cares ? 18m for sinking a football club for £1? bloody better than doing loto!

lenny

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31 Jan 2012 18:28:57
Having read Craig whites statement in full I feel that he has inherited a football club that runs at a loss of between 10-15 million a year before you take into account the tax case. With jelavic on his way to everton and should we sign anyone they won't be the quality we as rangers fans expect however balancing the books and running the club on a sound financial footing is the sensible thing to do for the future of our great club.poshbear

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31 Jan 2012 18:26:29
We could loan a striker from the Mhanks,they've only got about 20 (scrap that their all pish)

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31 Jan 2012 18:25:00
Just seen Ally leaving ibrox after meeting whyte on SSN. Doesn't look a happy chappy, Stv on twitter now stating their sources claiming no one else coming in. Hope to feck they are wrong, worrying few hours.

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31 Jan 2012 18:24:54
No signings.........never seen that coming! pmsl

Miko x

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Let's see if your still laughing at the end of the season ya panny ! " if carlsberg made bottle merchants....". A fully fit gers side would still wipe the floor with you's lot... ur defence an keeper are a joke mate ! Fraser Forster champs league golie ! classic.... macGER

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31 Jan 2012 18:24:38
McCoist says no players coming in. Absolute joke.
Source STV

Billyboy1

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31 Jan 2012 18:23:54
S*y Sports breaking news:

Rangers trying to offload Broxi Bear to Edinburgh Zoo!

Miko x

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31 Jan 2012 18:23:51
ally mccoist looked raging on sky sports dnt think whyte is backing him wats new eh.

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31 Jan 2012 18:23:07
No one coming in let's get used to it Healy the only fit striker and he couldn't even get a game recently what a shambles

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31 Jan 2012 18:22:57
Says on Stv we are unlikely to strengthen squad!!

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31 Jan 2012 18:22:54
cannot see rangers makingany signingssad day

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31 Jan 2012 18:14:51
just no ssn jelavic heading back to complete his move so no more rumours stating hes not signing please! the only way it would fall through now is if he changes his mind about joining them! hope not i dont want him back now, lets get it done and move on sooner we get this complete the better for all, again just dissapointed this is all being done on the 31st instead of being completed earlier just unsettles everyone involved, shame for everton fans they dont realise jelavic will jump ship to a bigger team as soon as he gets the chance! but good luck to him everton are a big club in thier own right and the merseyside derby is a crackin fixture. but hes never going to get european football or challenge for any honours! Grant Holt would be a good signing but not worth more than 1 million in my opinion hes not got a great pedigree playing lower leagues of england most his career and at 30 has no sell on value, james beattie no 2 in my opinion! would better using all the money signing jordan rhodes offloading all the guff and funding his wages he is a goal machine never going to happen i know. Start giving Andy Little a game aswell this lad has got talent and is a hidden gem, anyone think aswell we shuda taken west hams offer for jela? i think it was alot higher than what we're getting from everton, and why the hell are we comprimising on the price, it shuda been 8million take it or leave it, just becoz jela decides he has a great desire to now play in england

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31 Jan 2012 18:12:20
To all the people saying 'I will never buy the record again etc' that is why some have been saying you bury your heads and its no wonder, many of you do. You lap up what Whyte has said. Whyte has only denied that he hasn't paid VAT and that he used the money to buy Rangers. The rest of the article appears to be true, don't just sit and take every word Whyte says as fact. You are being manipulated by his word choice and how he chooses to prevent facts.

GovanFR

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Well said GovanFR

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31 Jan 2012 18:19:55
if whyte doesnt give mccoist any money to buy a striker,mccoist should just walk!

absolute disgrace this club these days!

in mccoist we trust!

the real jinky

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McCoist will need to walk, repo man coming for his car tomorrow.

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31 Jan 2012 18:18:10
have you read the "craig whyte" statement to the fans on the web site.it is saying that the club runs on a £10 million loss every year without money from europe.it also says that we have a squad of 30 players and that 18 a international player.where does he get this from.we also says that he purchased the club from "lloyds bank"."please" read the wed site,i would love to hear what all the great supporters think of this.for me it basically say what we all know.the club is f****D.why did whyte buy the club if he cannot finance it.there a only a couple of clubs that break even of make a profit.in this day and age a football club the size of rangers is for people who are mega rich and can afford to finance it and spend money on making it successful on the park.that is why "whyte" should look for a rich new buyer.

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31 Jan 2012 18:17:43
Whyte insists he did not use fans cash to buy club but did mortgage sales to ticketus, so where has the cash gone?
Surely current income from matchdays and tickets are enough to keep club running without further borrowing.
I thought Murray was bad, after all he put us in this mess, but Whyte is a lying b*****d and it's time the fans showed him what they think.

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This is the £42m question. Just "don't buy the record again though folks". It's obviously them that's to blame for all this $hite. What a complete shambles.

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31 Jan 2012 18:17:18
STV report we are signing no one !

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31 Jan 2012 18:17:03
Mccoist didn't look to happy after meeting with whyte. Read wot u want into that

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31 Jan 2012 18:14:45
Surprise surprise just on SSN that Mr Whyte has said after meeting with Ally that they had targets but where unable to complete anything today and is just one of those things being a chairman. We may as well have bid for Messi because Grant Holt was never going to leave EPL for here as must be on good money at Norwich.

PortBear

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31 Jan 2012 18:12:56
according to journalist mark guidi, the cameroon trialist rangers had in today only trained for 30minutes before the club made the decision to send him back home. this is now beyond a joke!

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I heard Guidi saying it was after 10 mins
and he was then asked to leave

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31 Jan 2012 18:07:31
Craig Whyte statement, its actually made me believe that he is the right man 4 the club, just wen i was staring to feel dejected, we know our club is in trouble, and yet he still took over, lets hope we get 1 or 2 decent signings in today, and crack on wiv the season!

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I can understand that his statement made you fell that he is the right man.his wording was to make him sound great.at the end of the day he will lose nothing if he fails to turn things around.he gets back every penny he has spent if the club and more if the club goes to the walls.think about it mate he buy companies that are failing then strips then of assest.what has he done for rangers,he paid £1 for the club and got a loan for £18 miilion to cover the debt to lloyds bank.if the club goes to the walls then everything that rangers own is his to sell,players,stadium,ground in and around ibrox.worth a lot more than the debt when you think st mirren got £10-12 million for just love street.the man is in a no lose situation.do you think he would rise everything he owns for rangers,no way.do not be fouled by him.you don`t buy a club that you can`t finance for nothing.

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31 Jan 2012 18:02:58
One thing that cannot be said about Whyte is that he is hiding behind the failings of the old owner and board members

It would be easy for him to come out with endless statements about how we got into this mess and to deflect all the abuse that has been directed at him, he has choosen to stay quiet until now and he has got on with the job in hand which is securing a future for our club

If that means players must leave to reduce the squad and bring income in to the club in the short term with no other signings this window then thats how it has to be, lets get on with it

I would rather have the squad we have now than no squad

We are one point behind with all to play for

JG

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True, but we have just sold one of the 2 only fit strikers at the club. What happens if Healy gets injured on Sunday? Can Broadfoot play up front? Or Alexander?

The point is yeah we have to cut costs but if we have got £5m for Jelavic then re-invest £1m for a striker and you have banked £4m plus savings in the wages coz whoever comes in ain't gonna be on the same wages at Jelavic.

The Pilot!

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31 Jan 2012 18:00:17
time is ticking ally us fans want u to step up and tell us the truth if we dnt sign any1 grow a set and tell us the truth.

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31 Jan 2012 17:58:09
If we sell jelavic for only 5m then everyone on the board should be sacked. That means that we've only made, after clauses, around £0-500k from the whole deal. They have NO business sense at all.

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31 Jan 2012 17:55:06
Kallum Higginbottom I'm Foaming At The Mouth About This He Was Stand Out On Sunday For The Bairns Skinned Wanyama and Cha

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Foaming at the mouth - you need to get out more.

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31 Jan 2012 17:52:02
Stv says Sandaza and Sahili and falkiks higinbottom are the 3 targets not withis at all, woul rather templton if this happends am going to be reall piss only person I woul have is Sandaza may ey Sahili but templton betts be a gers or all be pissed right off !!!

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31 Jan 2012 17:51:31
Can everyone note the window closes at 11pm not 12am!

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11pm in England but 12am in Scotland

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31 Jan 2012 17:38:49
Lambert is Norwich manager, cant see
him selling his best striker to Rangers!

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Why not? If it makes commercial sense to his club.

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31 Jan 2012 17:37:46
I am having an educated guess that Rangers will sign Jamie Murphy tonight. Hes knocked back Blackpool, dont think that will be to stay at Motherwell on the £700 a week he gets. We are constantly linked with lad, and a friend of mine is close friends with him, and he tells me its Rangers he wants to join, as he grow up supporting them in Clydebank. I also think we will sign Sandaza, Jaager and Templeton tonight. This is of course only in the case of Jela leaving. No way is McMillan off, if we dont have another right back lined up. If Jela goes and we dont sign at least 3 of them players tonight i will personally send £20 to the Ed to give to Help The Heroes. Lastly i hope we get Templeton, hes an amazing talent. WATP !

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I'd be happy with those signings even though I don't see the Murphy hype but never happening

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Here's hoping the Ed is a mind reader and knows your name and address to collect LOL.

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Full of nonsense regarding donating £20 to Help For Heroes. Why not donate it anyway? I said on here earlier I'd donate 50 quid to said chairty if a poster was correct about making one massive, high quality signing. I already donate money to H4H anyway so not empty chat

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Good for you as Marvin says keep believing

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As I said earlier, lad I know plays with hearts says templeton has the option to sign for the champions or Bristol city.
Hope he doesn't jump on the band wagon to England and signs tonight, cracking player.

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31 Jan 2012 17:36:17
Jelavics away for sh*te and a shower before he goes and signs and gets paraded round everton before the game the night! Too many folk snifn the glue, deal with it hes off!

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31 Jan 2012 17:33:59
Jelavic deal still on just went to hotel to freshen up he will
Sign tonight hopefully we will get grant holt scores goals where ever he has been {Ed001's Note - he didn't do well at Blackpool, I think he only got one goal for them or something like that. Not that he had many games for them to be fair.}

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31 Jan 2012 17:24:23
Looks like we r goin back in for sandaza. Wonder who else is on ally's last minute radar. Would be happy is we signed templeton or jamie murphy.

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31 Jan 2012 17:15:01
Ed - and Forum Members - please can someone tell me exactly what Gordon Smith does for our club? To be honest when he was appointed, I feared this ego-maniac would undermine McCoist at least in respect of media coverage. In reality it has gone completely the other way to the point where he seems to be the Invisible Man. If Ali Russell is effectively Bain's replacement then who did Smith either replace or be pointed to do? Hold Ally's hand? Regardless of whatever the answer to the question of Gordon Smith's position and role, based on how we perceive the "footballing" state of affairs at Rangers, one could assume G. Smith is as accountable as anyone for the debacle which is unfolding. P.S. The "legend" which is Gordon Smith still doesn't understand why he s not a Hall of Famer! Says it all about him! {Ed014's Note - I wish I could tell you.

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The truth is noone knows and in interview Smith himself couldn't answer his exact role.

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31 Jan 2012 17:11:19
Keith Jackson and Jim Traynor should be barred from Ibrox.Pure and utter scaremongering from the daily record.The previous directors are a disgrace as well..

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Get real at least they had the balls to write something about the crook, head out the sand comes to mind.

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Not getting my money up front next season i'll as i go now.

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31 Jan 2012 17:10:08
how gullible does white think wee are.a bid for holt,he knows it will fail wee know it will fail.i am a sick teddy bear.w.w.t.p.

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31 Jan 2012 17:05:37
Will never buy the day late rebel again.Why are they listening to disgruntled ex employees who have put our great club in the mess we are in.Craig Whyte has borrowed money against season tickets,so did the previus

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Aye but for 4 years money never went in 6 months, were has it all gone? You are a idiot if you still believe Mr tight, our club is going to the wall and you blame the daily record for trying to expose the crook.

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31 Jan 2012 17:04:25
why don't rangers go fr the likes of Andrew Johnson from fulham 6 months loan cause he wants first team footie and also big Emile Heskey leaving for free come on gers these guys would run a mock in the scottish league. alan smith who is a die hard gers fan went to mk dons. whats that about. come on ally these are the guys we need to keep on top of celtic

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Alan smith? how many years is that now?

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31 Jan 2012 17:02:21
we need a miracle. Salihi anyone?

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How long would it take to fly from Vienna? reckon he could get to Murray Park and get a medical done in 5 hours? Unfortunately not, mate. Muzz

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Could get medical done anywhere and paperwork faxed

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31 Jan 2012 16:59:21
Craig white has posted an open letter to the fans in the scotsman newspapers web page go to rangers news now to see it if what he is saying is true then the records story today is another load of tat intended to cause our club yet more problems so when white told us months ago there were dark forces at play it looks to be true. Good on white for breaking his silence and i for one wont be buying this paper again. Calling on all fans of the club to boycott this newspaper.

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Its a load of self serving nonsense.read it properly,not many answers in it.

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Calling on all fans to boycott Whyte. You say if what he says is true, there lies, excuse the pun, the problem. He does not tell the truth, not once, the man is The Charlatan.

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31 Jan 2012 16:58:38
Everton don't require Jelavic anymore they have excepted a 40 million offer for Fellini and Barkley so they are going after other targets this will go aywire soon

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31 Jan 2012 16:57:28
Would any Rangers fan be daft enough to renew their season book ?

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Course there will you will get the ones that call themselves the REAL FANS, the idiots that blame everyone but rangers

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If we want to save our club... yes it would be absolutely crazy not to, if you dont want yours give it for a fan that does,

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Your not a true fan if you don't renew it.

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Whyte must love you lot - ostriches.

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31 Jan 2012 16:57:13
All this talk of who is coming in is academic. Jelavic left Goodison park without signing. Until he signs on the dotted line no1 is coming in. Clock is ticking.

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31 Jan 2012 16:49:38
to add to a striker for rangers to go for they should try and get the latvian striker at lech poznan artjoms rudnevs its going to be really tight but hopefully we will see a couple of signings at least especially a striker to replace jelavic

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Sandaza will replace jellyfish davie c

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31 Jan 2012 16:15:32
just read whytes statement on RFC website and im afraid i still have some questions.it would appear he has put to bed the rumour of the 5m VAT bill and the finances regarding his buy out of the club.problem number one comes in the explanation of the selling of season tickets before they have been paid.whyte states that there is nothing wrong in this (i agree)as a way to release cash flow into the club for working capitol.My question is this,why pay interest on these released funds?surely as a multi millionaire he could have loaned rangers the money on an interest free basis thus keeping outgoings down? Is it true that he was forced into taking out another years loan against season ticket sales because he could only pay 3.5m of a 9m payment due?then theres the jelavic transfer.as he says theres no point in keeping a player who does not want to be here,but how much was received? are payments due to rapid? how much was paid up front?what did rangers bank NET? next he says he has fully backed ally in the transfer market,so that leaves the question who is scouting these players? for so many to arrive and then leave(some in the same day)is incredible.did you give ally money?was the scouting poor?had ally seen these players before they arrived?.lastly,"we will continue to develop young talent" well why are fleck,mcmillan,perry,ness,hutton,even bendickson always overlooked while players are played out of position? be nice to hear what you think.

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31 Jan 2012 16:10:16
I'll still be there this weekend for th game. If its my last due to circumstances out with my control, then so be it. Rangers till the end!!
S-bear

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Just got my ticket there mate after i read whytes statement, he had to say something but still think he is pulling wool over our eyes, and why go for holt, lambert has already said nobody is for sale they dont need the money... maybe something will happen hopefully big but doubtful however will still be at ibrox and still buy the awful burgers dam we could at least sign a new burger maker

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Remember the pizzas we used to get? Mmmmmm
S-bear

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31 Jan 2012 16:27:16
As the man said in his statement.
"What is true is that Rangers, like many other clubs, has a financing arrangement in place with a company called Ticketus which enables the Club to receive revenue from a portion of season ticket sales in advance.
There is nothing unusual or untoward in this arrangement which was put in place at the Club long before my takeover last year and was used by the previous management. For members of that regime to criticise the use of a scheme they put in place is, frankly, outrageous."
Yes we are in trouble financially but all I can see is a business trying to match expenditure with income. CW has again inherited another financial indiscretion from the previous owner who seems to escape criticism from any and all journalists in the country. Wait on the outcome of the tax case and then we can move forward in one form or another as our fate decrees. I for one think if anyone should be facing the wrath of the supporters it should be SDM pending the outcome of the tax case.

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This is not matching expenditure with income. If it was getting one seasons season book income in a bit early, fair enough, but it's not. It's taking income for 3 other seasons in advance. How do Rangers match income with expenditure for these 3 seasons. It is storing, big, big problems up for these 3 seasons.

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Whytes battlecry seems to have got the hordes on his side again,amazed how this man only opens his mouth when reporters expose him for what he is,the media are trying to uncover the scale of the financial crisis at the club because the chairman wont open his mouth till he is pushed to open it,fans should be asking what exactly is going on behind the scenes at ibrox,whyte instigated the transfer of jelavic and now hes blaming jelavic.....the man is a fraud and a liar,havent the fans not learnt a lesson?murray was held in high esteem for years and look at him now.

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White may be a lot of things, may be a great conman who knows. But the one thing that is for sure, he was the only one wanting to buy Rangers. Who knows what his intentions are, I am not defending him in any way but where are the multi millionaires who are willing to lose their money by buying the club. As far as I can see there was not a big queue to buy our club, as fans we didn't even subscribe to the share issue. We, along with the rest of Scottish football, are in dire straits (and I include that other mob in that) and will have to get used to it. But we are still Rangers something the other mob can't say.

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31 Jan 2012 16:21:38
Blackpool have bid for Jamie Murphy accepted. Finally another blatantly unfounded rumour put to bed.

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Murphy hasn't agreed, he is still undecided

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31 Jan 2012 16:20:00
McCoist left Murray park to have a meeting with Mr Tight to discuss signing targets, source SSN. FFS what are you thinking with just six odd hours left. No signings and still no news on the audited accounts so no european licence. What the f**k is happening, I for one are not interested in some flowered up response to the daily rags crap today I want to know where my team is right now. Why no signings, tax case, do I need to go on. And where the f**K is our director of football, Smith get him out the door. We need the whole truth now

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Accounts will remain unaudited until tax case is resolved, as it is deemed too 'high risk' for accountants to sign off.

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31 Jan 2012 16:19:33
ed see if we go into admimistration will we still be in the spl or do we get relageted {Ed001's Note - it would be a points deduction, most likely.}

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31 Jan 2012 16:19:14
Ally away too meet with whyte bout transfers just left Murray park , was on SSN. For those who didnt see it

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31 Jan 2012 16:18:59
Has any1 got any idea of how much we got for selling jelavic?

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31 Jan 2012 16:17:56
Motherwells accept bid from Blackpool for Jamie murphy stv ...... Doesn't know what he's doing yet

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31 Jan 2012 16:00:14
Well Done Craig Whyte for speaking out! I'll say it again he has my backing, he answers everything he is asked!! and he is right where were all these "Rangers men" in our hour of need?? Nowhere to be seen then run away to the Jim Trayner's and Keith Jackson's of the world. True Rangers men like John Greig don't need to make themself known or show off in the papers!!

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Is that why John Greig as part of the advisory committee looking at Whyte's takeover signed his name to a statement that he had serious concerns over Whyte's financial probity.

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He wasnt asked anything n was very economical in his wording.the most pressing question is will we be playing in europe next year? no audited accounts means no euro licence means another 10m black hole.

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31 Jan 2012 15:59:22
If the moneys right( which it obviously wont be cos £5 million isnt enough for zamora !) and jelavic wants to go then good luck to him but to be looking at a 30 year old, well nearly 31 year old as a replacement is bad business unless he wins us the league which i doubt! no resale value in him... now their looking for atleast £2 million for holt so IF thats available after jelavic leaves then surely templeton and murphy could be bought for that and jelavic's wage would cover them two... both players would be good business, id rather have nobody and struggle on with healy than waste money on holt !!

FauldsRFC

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Murphy going to Blackpool by the looks of it. Motherwell accepted a bid.

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31 Jan 2012 15:45:34
Looks like as predicted no players in. Read the statement from Mr Tight saying 30 first team squad. Struggled to name thirty Some players dont get a look in Mckay for one, so over to you Ally, why. And why do we have another midfielder on trial. Please tell me because all this b*locks is starting to wear a bit thin. I've supported Rangers for forty years even through the lean times of the early 80's. We deserve the truth, now!!

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Also bit of a struggle to name 30 got to about 24 includes the likes of Naismith out for season and Ness who good as he is appears to be injury prone but the glaring point of all is as has been mentioned on both sites for weeks now is the lack of strikers in the squad,not wide players as even when Lafferty is fit its only him and Healy the likes of Merven and Kercar are not Strikers so it looks like Andy Little no doubt

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Cameroon lad is a forward/attacking midfielder. Not exactly ideal but better than nothing i guess? I really don't think a trial on the last day of the window is going to give any indication of a players ability, though. Muzz

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Despite the so called numbers 30 more like 20/25 not all are capable of being considered good enough eg MacKay Bedoya and as Chairman and so called supporter a blind man can see that we are really short in the Striker dept that it is not a level playing field as quted the other day by Ally McCoist

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What Ally thinks as an employee at Rangers he cannot mention hence the story by Walter Smith/no doubt on behlaf of Ally who still has his ear/what next will Walter be banned from Ibrox

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Agreed,,same here mate I remember one game where the crowd was barely over 3500 and you could hear the players talking to each other,,we dont want those days back

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31 Jan 2012 15:45:20
THE Chairman of the Club has written the following open letter to all Rangers supporters:
To all Rangers supporters,
I write to you today to address a number of key issues facing the Club.
First, I would like to address specifically the latest attempt to undermine Rangers in today's Daily Record which devotes five pages to trashing our efforts to get this Club back on a sensible financial footing.
In the most lurid terms, the Record accuses the Club's management and, specifically me, of using supporters' money to help fund the buy-out of Rangers. Not true.
The Club is accused of not paying £5million in VAT. Not true.
I can categorically assure supporters that when I launched a takeover bid for the Club it was funded entirely from one of my companies and that was demonstrated clearly to the satisfaction of the previous owner, Lloyds Banking Group and professional advisers.
What is true is that Rangers, like many other clubs, has a financing arrangement in place with a company called Ticketus which enables the Club to receive revenue from a portion of season ticket sales in advance.
There is nothing unusual or untoward in this arrangement which was put in place at the Club long before my takeover last year and was used by the previous management. For members of that regime to criticise the use of a scheme they put in place is, frankly, outrageous.
This is a perfectly straightforward way of raising working capital for the Club. Money from season ticket sales goes directly to the Club and is used for the Club's operations and that remains the case. In effect, all this financing arrangement does is release the revenue to the Club earlier.
The Daily Record's approach to this story sought to distort and dramatise the matter. I for one will not be reading or buying the Daily Record again and I'm sure many other Rangers fans will share my disgust at yet another smear on this football club.
It was, predictably, fuelled by accusations of former board members of the Club. I simply ask Rangers fans what these men did for Rangers in the Club's hour of need? They were all talk and no action and presided over the Club as it careered to the brink of financial collapse.
The overarching issue that affects Rangers financially is the HMRC tax tribunal, which has been hanging over the Club for many years and long before I became chairman. As I have said many times before, the sooner that is resolved the better.
In terms of the playing squad, you may know the Club has agreed a fee with Everton for the transfer of Nikica Jelavic. We wish the player well and thank him for his contribution to Rangers.
The reality of Jelavic's departure is two-fold. One, the player wanted to leave and there is no point in trying to keep a player who no longer wants to be at Ibrox. Two, the Club is simply not in a financial position to turn down offers for players which give the Club a good return on its original investment.
Investment in the playing squad has been a thorny issue since I took over the Club in May and is the source of endless debate, much of it ill-informed. I want to set the record straight.
In the summer transfer window last year we conducted 14 different pieces of transfer business, more than any other club in Scotland. This included new signings and improvement to existing contracts with key players, increasing the players' wage bill significantly. We now have a first team squad of 30 which includes 18 full internationalists.
Admittedly, there were transfer targets we did not secure but that is not uncommon. As chairman, I have supported Ally McCoist in his choice of targets and will continue to do so. The timing of Jelavic's departure so late in this window is far from ideal and efforts to improve the squad will continue until the transfer window closes.
That said, we must be realistic. Media coverage of the transfer window has bordered on the hysterical. As it stands at the moment Rangers has operating costs of approximately £45 million a year and revenues of around £35million - not including revenue from possible Champions' League and Europa League participation.
As we know, European money cannot be taken for granted and it doesn't take much to work out that without it there is a big financial hole to fill every year - regardless of who owns the Club.
I've said many times that in Scottish football we have to move on from this mindset that you have to keep spending more and more money - that's what got this Club into financial trouble before. We have to live within our means, continue to develop talent and spend wisely.
These are challenging financial times for Rangers - as they are for many other businesses. What I can say to you as a Rangers fan is that everything I will do as chairman will be in the interests of the Club and I thank you for your continued support.
Craig Whyte, Chairman
(Straight from the Horse's Arse)

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31 Jan 2012 15:42:50
i cannot believe we have sold McMillan! i would love to see a spine of Mcgregor Boca Davis Laff (when fit) and thrown the young guys around them, Perry Hutton Ness Little Wylde etc. why take a massive gamble on players we havent even heard of when we have raw talent under our noses?! when Perry,Hutton, Ness etc have played they havent put a foot wrong. Young guys who want to play for the jersey, am i missing something here?

ChrisF

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Whilst I agree with playing younger players; Ness is always injured, Wylde is simply not good, Little hasn't convinced (wherever he has been). The problem is the younger players are not available for the weak positions, we are fine at CB and CM, we need a striker.

GovanFR

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Comforting to know put in good performances and don't put a foot wrong and you get rewarded by being sold. Whilst Broadfoot etc stay. I can genuinely say I regarded McMillan as a great RB. Sad to see him go.

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I think we all are missing something bud, look at the situation regarding our right back position for instance, McMillan = off. Whittaker = injured. Broadfoot = injured. Cole = on loan. whats happened to the estonian boy, surely now wages freed up for him ? Ortiz could even play there, and before everyone and their granny is on saying hes gash this or gash that, he hasnt really been gave all that much of chance has he lads, more so at full back where some folk think is his best position and he appears to be on his way back to spain, so at the minute there is NO actual right back available for us. Matt McKay ? he is another who hasnt been featuring for some reason, and to top it off we then sell our best striker at the club. its a joke. a couple of seasons of pain ahead till we get back to some sort of even keel methinks, unless the tax case outcome is favourable for us. im usually the optimist but even now i am slowly starting to feel deflated at the constant downsizing of the club regardless of how understandable it is. having said that all the same i hope ally gets something to play with, even some sort of loan deal done, a striker or 2 is needed or its all over for the season im afraid bears

james rfc 1980

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31 Jan 2012 15:41:28
Just read Whyte's statement on Rangers website.

The man is a fraud.

One big question has not been answered by Whyte. If the £24.4m season book money was not used to pay of the Lloyds debt, WHERE IS IT MY WHYTE?

Also, he states revenues are £35m a year, with operating costs of £45m a year. He has sold 4 seasons season book sales to the amount of £24.4m, averaging out at £6.1m a year. This means that revenues will drop to £28.9m a year, as Rangers no longer have the £6.1m coming in for each of the next 4 years. So now there is a hole of £16.1m a season.

The above comments are based on Mr Whyte's own words in his statement. THE MAN IS A FRAUD.

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At last a fan who can read between the lines of this nonsense statement

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31 Jan 2012 15:38:08
After just reading Craig whyte's statement on the official website, I found it very honest and very good to read. He is not a fantasist and has never promised us millions and millions . He is realistic . As I posted earlier a good player will be coming up from England, please do not worry stress and bite to the fools from the east end until after the window shuts....let's stick together and support the team, it's out of our hands ! They want us all to argue, fall out and become paranoid like themselves, again they have a very very average team in a very poor league. We have a team that can win the league. Deep down we all know that.....support not divide the ranks. Trust in ally and trust in whyte I say. Its the previous directors and chairman who have put us here! Fact! Ok celtic fans on here post away....no one likes us we don't care.....only time will tell!
Davey c

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31 Jan 2012 15:35:56
Why are so many fans blinkered about craig whyte. This guy is a cowboy. The statement basically reads we won't sign anyone and he bemoans the timing of Jelavic sale. Who's fault is that. Perfect timing for mr whyte not to slash out any of the 6m.

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Most of the players who sre or have been in on trial are without contracts so can be signed outside of the transfer window, so dont panic!

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What makes you think it's 6m? Muzz

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31 Jan 2012 15:35:38
If we manage to push Celtic all the way till the end of the season then that would be an amazing achievement giving the circumstances and 1 new face in transfer window! I feel so sorry for ally he is a legend and he's being hung out to dry by the owner! Super ally

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31 Jan 2012 15:35:13
Anyone else find it strange the record story broke on the final day of transfer window we all knew jelavic was going but it adds to story i for one will not be buying that paper again

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The daily record will have to find a way to fill that 45p black hole you will have created each week now.

Maybe mortgage the future sales of the Sunday Mail would be the answer?

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31 Jan 2012 15:34:30
Been told the daily rebel has some huge story about the demise of the institution of Glasgow rangers why would any true supporter believe one word that the rag says. Have they not over the last year or two twisted every story about our club,even totally fabricated stories to there own end. And hardly reported on our rivals who at time's have got away with murder in a journalistic sense.
Sure it is a time for concern but this garbage reported today has been in the public domain for months. Why have they not attacked David Murray the person who created this mess after all .don't know about Mr whyte apart from the daily rebel obviously don't like him.
His open letter today to the rangers fans makes sense so I'm willing to give him a chance after all what options do we have open to us.

Trying times indeed , but one thing that is sure, no true rangers man or women should ever pick up that rag and read it again let it lie on the shelves I'm calling on a boycot of the daily record it surely has shown its true colours and that's not red, blue or white

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Funny that Celtic fans call it the Daily Ranger. What does that tell you?

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31 Jan 2012 15:33:45
Just read the Craig Whyte statement on the RFC website. As a loyal gers fan i stand by our chairman and support the club in all it's endevours. I agree with whyte and think that we should b boycotting the daily record- not the club. All the snide wee comments the tims have been making on our forum is just them glorifying total hear say- yes we have the HMRC case...but the rubbish in todays record is total Phish.
I have faith in our team - I can see us making a good effort at trying to sign jaager/templeton/higgenbotham and holt. All of the Drama is just being blown out of proportion by a bunch of inbreds (tims) Mcoist leaving? Thanks for making me laugh WATP and WE WILL WIN 4 in a row!

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You sir are a MUG.

What has Craig Whyte told you in his statement? Has he told you that everything will be ok? No, he has confirmed what we've known for months and that is the season ticket money has been mortgaged for the next 4 seasons which as he says is normal practice to avail money to help with running costs of the club. The only thing he has done which is different to other clubs is spend the whole damn lot in only a few months leaving practically nothing left to use to get the club to the end of the season.
But......if CW says it's ok then it must be OK. I mean it worked for Leeds didn't it? Well....didn't it? No!

You are presented with the truth, in fact Craig Whyte admits he has mortgaged the season tickets and yet you still fail to see the iminant danger. The walls are coming down.

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31 Jan 2012 15:30:19
I think credit has to be given to ally and the back room staff for at least attempting to bring in faces and give trials to people to see if they were good enough! I think the hope was that there would be 2 or 3 who would fit the bill and then jelavic could be sold for profit and only money we would spend would be on wages! But I'm afraid we are well and truly done for

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31 Jan 2012 15:29:00
hi there, celtic fan coming in peace.
just read whyte's statement and think he is still tryin to pull the cotton over your eyes.
"The timing of Jelavic's departure so late in this window is far from ideal"
was he the only man on the planet that didnt know jelavic was leaving?
frankiebhoy

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Absolutely, he's only answered questions he can't possibly lie about. Still a crook and a conman and has realistically answered eff all.

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31 Jan 2012 15:18:35
whyte has issued a statement trying get us all back on side he talks sum rubish thats the bbc and record suposley against rangers what about stv they have ran the story of season ticket sales whyte is out of his deph get this man out dont fall for this made up story of him having rangers in his heart he in nuthing but a liar

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31 Jan 2012 15:13:22
Workers leaving Ibrox and Murray park for the day, seems like no additions coming in, no surprise there, what is going on with our club.

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31 Jan 2012 15:11:43
what a joke our club is if no 1 is signed then we have to take a stand protest out ibrox and demand answers celtic r all loving this we r just 1 big laughing stock.

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31 Jan 2012 15:04:48
Craig white has released a statement on the rangers app for anyone wanting a gander and why statement on gers website that daily record is lie but confirmed about tickets

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31 Jan 2012 15:08:24
Looks like the Daily Record have just joined the Beeb in Craigs black list. Well this is certainly some rollercoaster ride we are on. Clyde sportsound next anyone?

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31 Jan 2012 15:00:11
Craig whyte issues statement to rangers fans check out club website.

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31 Jan 2012 14:54:57
McMillan to Dunfermline what a joke and advert for the Academy the guy has never really had a chance 23 years of age and better Right Back than Broadfoot

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If he is so good why did Dunfermline only give him a one and a half year deal? And why did Walter Smith and Ally Mccoist play Broadfoot ahead of him?

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Because it is a mental block and always the same old lame excuse that the young guys lack experience/only one way to get it and if you have seen him play he is decent and certianly better than Clubfoot

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31 Jan 2012 14:43:40
I hope all Rangers fans and Ally Mccoist realise this. If we don't replace Jelavic and sign at least one striker then we will only have ONE striker, David "are you kidding" Heally.

He's no use, tap ins, hardly played a game for two years. Rangers need a striker and when Jelavic goes we need to spend, no loan deals, no useless trials, SPEND.

It is ridiculous that we are selling Jelavic considering two of our best strikers are already out with long injuries.

Sign Sahli and Templeton, and that will hopefully be enough for four in a row, along with the right back Jaager if possible.

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31 Jan 2012 14:41:43
rangers lodged bid for grant holt and young mcmillian has gone two dunfermline permanent rangers dont have a clue selling this young lad an grant holt is getting abit two old prob doesnt matter we will prob bid 100k or sumthing

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31 Jan 2012 14:41:24
Concrete bid placed for Holt. !! Fingers. crossed

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31 Jan 2012 14:40:59
I would personally love to see young stars Kallum Higginbotham and david templeton join Rangers, need players of thier direct forward, link up play abilty. Dont know of any striker possibilities? wouldnt want holt.

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Though Higgenbotham was outstanding, showed class, pace and intelligence beyond his years. Wouldn't mind him under the guidance of Davis

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31 Jan 2012 14:40:08
Just exactly what is going on at our club now its Jordan McMillan thats signing for Dunfermline no wonder the players via Murray Park move on they never get a chance it a joke

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31 Jan 2012 14:37:17
Does anyone even think we will sign anyone. We r going to be left with one fit striker.

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31 Jan 2012 14:37:16
Re last post meant Norwich was getting excited at the thought that we might actually get a forward

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31 Jan 2012 14:45:39
It starts with David Weir then it is Fleck followed by the reserve keeper Adam to Airdrie and Darren Cole and young Naismith to Partick Thistle and now Jordan McMillan to Dunfermline/no matter where you place them in terms of ability or if some are sold or loaned out, when i went to school the need to increase the squad meant more not less. Certainly in the case of Jordan McMillan looks like he is being sold never really had a chance and at 23 it is a nonsense,one minute Whyte says we need to produce more home grown talent,whats the point they dont get a chance.

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31 Jan 2012 14:45:34
why do some rangers fans still defend this man whyte open ure eyes our club is in a real state and whyte has stole or money two buy our club

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31 Jan 2012 14:14:14
OMG you guys are a disgrace. You read some mince in the paper and read the Dhim brigades poison on here and then suddenly we are finished??
WE WILL NEVER BE FINISHED!
Rangers is not going to stop being the premier team in Scotland just cause the press and passionate haters from the east thinks/wish it so. Get a grip cause right now Timalloy, miko and all the other regular Rangers posters are laughing at you.
For me, I'll keep supporting and watching my team win the league this year again and I'll continue to enjoy reading the fairy tales spouted by these gloating little people who pollute this site.
We will always be the people
Blue Knows

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31 Jan 2012 14:28:14
ed have you banned me from posting or something i havent seen any of my posts i have made. i dont think i have done anything to be getting omitted from postes./biggles {Ed014's Note - I haven't and none of the other eds could have or I wouldn't see this.We are very busy,sorry.

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31 Jan 2012 14:28:01
the tax man isn't the only one not getting paid:


Charges / mortgages against this Company
CLOSE LEASING LIMITED
ASSIGNATION IN SECURITY - OUTSTANDING on 27 Aug 11

PREMIER PROPERTY GROUP LIMITED
STANDARD SECURITY - OUTSTANDING on 05 May 06

THE GOVERNOR AND COMPANY OF THE BANK OF SCOTLAND
ASSIGNATION IN SECURITY - OUTSTANDING on 12 Oct 04

KELVINSIDE ACADEMY WAR MEMORIAL TRUST AND ANOTHER
STANDARD SECURITY - OUTSTANDING on 05 Jun 04

THE SCOTTISH SPORTS COUNCIL
STANDARD SECURITY - OUTSTANDING on 18 Jan 02

KELVINSIDE ACADEMY WAR MEMORIAL TRUST AND THE TRUSTEES OF KELVINSIDE ACADEMICAL CLUB CHARITABLE
STANDARD SECURITY - OUTSTANDING on 15 Nov 1999

THE GOVERNOR AND COMPANY OF THE BANK OF SCOTLAND
FLOATING CHARGE - OUTSTANDING on 08 Mar 1999


taco

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Sorry but whats your point

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31 Jan 2012 14:18:05
I personally think that if we don't make some signings before the end of today, even some stop-gap loan deals to shore up our flailing threadbare squad, then we should all boycott Sundays game!

It is we the fans that buy the strips, the season tickets, the match tickets, the food, the European match packages (when we ever get that far!) and all the other merchandise that lines the inside of the accounts at Rangers FC, and yet this chairman has come in here and treated us with such little respect that he thinks he can take take take from the club, and give nothing other than 15th tier signings and we will continually 'have faith', and 'in Ally we trust'.

Well I for one think he has made us a laughing stock and so far I feel that it is Mr Whyte who will be doing the majority of the laughing! Who is with me here?

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I will continue to support the club through thick and thin you are entitled to do what you think is right as long as rangers exist I will be the're offering my support

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31 Jan 2012 14:08:25
To the tune of "spurs are going to wembley"

The Rangers, are going out of Business
We Tims, are having so much Fun,
Their "billionaire" owner, has proved to be a Jonah
To those bears from G51

The Rangers, are going out of Business
Does anyone here really Care
No more "we arra people", will sully Scotlands Shores
Instead Ibrox, will become the latest Poundland Store

The Rangers, are going out of Business
The bears have had their Day
Decent fans everywhere, this message are Sending
Three cheers for this Happy Ending
Lyrics by TIMALLOY

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31 Jan 2012 14:08:20
if we are to push celtic all the way in the title race then we need 2 strikers and a creative midfielder. even with the mess the club is in i just get the feeling that there will be at least a couple of new arrivals. possibly templeton, the falkirk lad and a striker(loan). fingers crossed!

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If we were to sign all the so called targets that have been on this site for the past week we would have a squad nearly as big as celtic/apart from Merven we wont sign anyone it will get to one min past midnight and Wyte will have the wording prepared already----Due to the late transfer of Jelavic we were unable to bring in any replacement

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31 Jan 2012 14:02:26
Andy carroll at glasgow airport heading to murraypark??

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Mate... f*****g hell. Muzz

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31 Jan 2012 13:51:07
Whyte stated several weeks ago that audited accounts would be available by 31 January 2012. Well Mr Whyte, it is now the 31st January and we're still waiting.

I can guess why audited accounts have not been signed by Rangers auditors. They would have to declare that Rangers are insolvent, and Whyte has prevented this.

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Ed does that not mean no European licence seem to remember this being deadline day for audited accounts {Ed001's Note - accounts have to be in by the UEFA deadline, submitted to UEFA, to get a European license. This is separate, but could provide a pointer to a license being refused.}

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31 Jan 2012 13:46:27
Again, why are the press not hounding craig whyte for answers, is that not there job to get the story ?
What the he'll is going on? It must be really bad that no one will tell us, I just hope that we can find the spirit to fight our way to title , got to believe we can dobit that's what being a fan means!

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Whyte does not owe the press any answers

He should however put a statement in the next match program for the fans

JG

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31 Jan 2012 13:39:47
Well Mr Whyte you have just over
9 hours to get 2 forwards in at least
or you can forget 4 in a row..

Let summarise,

out:

Jelavic £6m & £20k off wage bill
Weir £0 & £10k off wage bill
Fleck Loan & £3-5k of wage bill
Ortiz Loan & £5-£7k of wage bill
McKay also a possibilty...

£6m & over £40k a week off wage bill

in:

Celik £0.2 (comp) & £5k a week...

Simply not good enough ! If no one
else comes in there will be unrest
at Ibrox on Sunday ! Get your finger oot

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To be honest you are generous to Whyte with that comment; Fleck is on £6k a week. You also haven't put in Kal Naismith and Darren Cole which is another couple of thousand a week.

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31 Jan 2012 13:33:54
the blame lies with Lloyds, Murray was forcced to sell to Whyte, Whyte had no money, but somehow convinced the bank, which is owned by the taxpayer that he could cover the clubs debt, this he did, so Lloyds got their money and washed their hands of the whole thing, Whyte was sussed out long before he took over, the directors warned the supporters it was a bad move, but the supporters are blind and did not listen, he will drag the club into the gutter, sell it and make some money, and its the next owners that will have to pick the pieces up

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Disagree big time, we cannot blame a bank for our current situation. Besides LLoyds are a business out to make money not a charity

JG

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Why's that Lloyds' fault - it's a business that wanted its money back - the long-term future of the club was of no concern, only getting back what it was owed.

Straws well and truly clutched at by the OP.

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You need a serious lie down you tube!

it wasn't Lloyds who spent money they didn't have, it wasnt Lloyds who evaded tax, it wasn't Lloyds who mortgaged 4 years worth of season books....christ...some of you people!!


taco

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Whether Lloyds wanted their money back or not is irrelevant, if it is true that they essentially forced through a takeover then they have broken the law.

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Since when did the tax players own Lloyds.

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31 Jan 2012 13:31:01
When fat sally walks this is your new mamanger.

Free Team Organiser www.arrangemygame.com
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31 Jan 2012 13:30:23
Afternoon Ostriches, I will now accept all your apologies as all I have been telling you lot for months is now coming to fruition.
Cash flow problems - check
Taking out loans - check (close bros and ticketus)
Not paying VAT -check
Whyte spinning you all along - check
Instead of constantly saying it is all a big "Tim" conspiracy, wake up and smell the coffee (if you have any left) and start looking at Mr Whyte "billionaire" and his promises (or lack of them ) hail hail Timalloy
PS expect a "roasting" later LOL

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Biscuit Tin remember lol

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Well said Timalloy

they will never accept it though, even when it's too late and the club are bust (soon) they will still say, "eh? whit joost happened there, we ur the ranjurz, we urra peepul"

you just need to read them posting about new signings lol! ffs, they don't even realise that the club is struggling to continue on a day-to-day basis!

ps....where did all the mortgaged season book money go? cos we know he hasn't paid tax on ANYTHING, doesn't pay bills....my guess is that he's robbing you as well as the tax man....i'm willing to bet he faces criminal charges for theft, fraud and tax evasion when all this is over


taco

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The above post comes from a roaster- check
./biggles

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Hmmmm , roast ostrich . What would you serve with that ?

jimi88

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Okay i'll bite, whats going to happen next

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Now we have Taco who's jumped on the band wagon with posting comments, its actually now starting to become boring.

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31 Jan 2012 13:19:11
Know that years ago Celtic got rid of the old board,but circumstances were slightly different,dont think they were ltd company,but there must be some way we can get rid of this clown cause if all information is to be believed then this guy is actually increasing the debt/wonder time to let him know he aint wanted/are there enough real supporters that could combine to cover the potential debts and also offer a £1.00 to Craig Whyte to go back to his Castle

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A fans boycott of season tickets later this year will force him out if he's not gone by then already.

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The way he's structured his debt that would do more harm to your team mate.this money is owed before you pay it! green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 13:11:13
Time for a reality check lets stop talking about the pending tax case,cause we cannot influence the decision,also with regards to the story in the Daily Record it is unlikely they would print this information without being able to prove it,so you know what guys refusing to buy season tickets wont help either as what's left of a team will need our support thats why we are called supporters,BUT there are other ways to deliver a message which can be peaceful but also verbal both at the entrance to Ibrox and on the terracing and directed at Craig Whyte who by now surely cannot still be pulling the wool over our eyes any longer. While we cant forget sdm has to take responsibility for the tax issue to suggest that things will improve with Craig Whyte in charge is to delude yourself,it really is time and it pains me to say it,but we need to copy what Celtic supporters did way back years ago and let our Chairman know exactly what we think of him/and although it might be difficult to get him out of Ibrox it is easy to let him know just how unpopular he is. {Ed001's Note - it is extremely simple for a newspaper to print unfounded claims, they do it every day!}

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Well Ed that will no doubt mean that Whyte will take the Daily Record we can wait and see but dont hold your breath {Ed001's Note - it means nothing of the sort, that is why newspapers print their stories with the help of a lawyer. The lawyer will go through and check that, even if the paper has no idea of the truth or otherwise of the story, that they have worded it correctly to avoid libel cases.}

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Ed - these claims come with quotes from former Rangers Directors. I hardly think Paul Murray would claim to have been interviewed by HMRC and seen correspondence which proves what has been printed, if it were not the case. Paul Murray is a well respected businessman in Scotland, and to make such false claims would do a great deal of damage to his reputation. {Ed001's Note - or he can just claim he never said them later, or the quotes were taken out of context etc etc. Just remember you have to take everything with a pinch of salt. Nothing is ever 100% correct, not me, not you, not the papers.}

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I agree with you ED1, but the newspapers do it with qualifications, just look at the article in question
Headline - Whyte admits sold 4 years of tickets to keep club going
Sensational 1st paragraph - Whyte sold 4 years of fans money to fund his buy out
Buried in the article - Whyte denied he used that money to pay Lloyds
Buried further in the article - Whytes spokesman said the suggestion that the takeover was funded through this arrangement is categorically untrue

We all have know for a long time we are deep in it but if he had to take a secured loan to keep the club going that is preferable to us going bust but i think we could have had a better deal without 5m vat needing to be paid, just means there are 4 to 5 very lean years ahead of us

Also dont see this company handing over 24m if they thought we would be out of existence in a year

JG

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Ed001

Are you saying that tabloids in general print lies or are you implying that todays story is unfounded? {Ed001's Note - the former. I have no idea if today's story is unfounded or not, though it does stretch credulity a lot. Loans on those sorts of terms are no longer given to football clubs like Rangers. The financial footing that the club is on is just not conducive to a long term loan, especially one secured on a future that could be non-existent.}

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If its untrue Whyte can sue them, Like he did to the bbc over the lies they put in the program in october, oh wait a minute he didn't sue them did he??????

Mark67 {Ed001's Note - it is not that simple. It is very difficult to prove an untruth, especially when most of the items that could be used to prove it are not available to him to use. The tax case means that a number of financial details would need to be kept shut away to avoid prejudicing the case.}

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31 Jan 2012 13:08:34
I'm hearing jelavic has failed to agree terms with everton .. any1 heard anything?

cg72

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31 Jan 2012 13:06:26
i firmly believe that whyte still has our best interests at heart.i think he is playing a long game and that if we win the tax case then that will be the time to invest in the playing side of the team.should he invest now and we lose the case any monies he had invested would be a gonner.
as for the revenue raised by selling tickets even the paper admits it is usual practise,the rest of thier story being ifs and buts.
i know the celtic fans would love to see the bears protesting outside ibrox as so many of them seem to be agitating for it ,quite a few of them on here shouting for protests .i for one would never give them that satisfaction .
rangers have my support from the owner to the lowest wage earner at the club and always will .
so until we get the result from the tax case lets get behind the team lads ,remember for all the shouting and gloating from the east ,its only a point in it.
skyebear

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Funny how its only a point now. When before it was 15 points but really only 9. You lot cant make your mind up. Going by previous rangers logic it is still 4 points.

Ian

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And what about the £26m of current debt?

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Jeezo....you're still backing this lying, thieving, conman??

he just loves "peepul" like you!

i take it you're quite happy to pay up fron for next years season book, knowing fine well that it's going straight into his back pocket, and you'll be lucky to even have a team to support in a few months?

you're a strange strange bunch i'll tell ye


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Ian - dont be such a nipple end for a grease gun

Its one point and one game in hand

JG

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I am quite happy to back our owner and my football club ,as previously stated the use of season tickets is usual practise.only problem may be the tax case .which as you may be aware has yet to be decided,and is in no way the fault of mr whyte.
as for the four points ian ,win the game in hand first. you may also be aware that you were also ahead last season and there is over three months of the season to go
skyebear

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31 Jan 2012 12:35:13
Tax Enquiries www.TheTaxOffice.org.uk
Think you've not paid enough tax? Pay back whats ours.


Ian

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31 Jan 2012 12:31:52
I hate this I'm a season ticket holder
And things ain't looking to gr8 hope
We sign some bodies .
If not we lost our club on jan31 il
Keep goin but I ain't paying a high price for my season ticket if I'm watching a poor team

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31 Jan 2012 12:29:40
If I had money to invest I wouldnt put any in till the tax case is resolved. Probably why all this is being raked over again is the tax case is nearing a verdict and papers need selling before the pantomime thats been media created finishes. All to play for though, 1 point behind and still here. CheltBlue

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The financial problems reported in todays DR have nothing to do with the tax case, they are completely seperate problems and will still be there if Rangers were to win the tax case.

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The pantomime reported in the DR is not media created - it is Craig Whyte created.

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31 Jan 2012 12:18:06
just seen Paul Gascoigne at southwaite services, he had a fishing rod, can of beer and some chicken, said he was heading to see McCoist

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Aye and he could still run rings round your lot

JG

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31 Jan 2012 12:08:18
U know i was 1 of them fans coming on here in the summer laughing at people who sujested whyte didnt have rangers fc best interest at heart bla bla... Well better fool me... Its looking quite clear now that hes oinly interested in putting money in his own skint pocket! Selling jelavic on deadline day.. No real chance to spend the money.. Very suspicious! As for season ticket money... Lets all make a stand and buy no season tickets/matchday tickets.. Hes robbing us loyal fans.. Litrally! Rangers will live on forever

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That's a great idea let's stop buying tickets. That'll help the team and club. No supporters and less income. We could also stop buying shirts/ merchandise so that we guarantee we cease to exist.
If this was scratch and sniff it would smell like sarcasm by the way.

GCUK

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31 Jan 2012 12:06:30
Stop saying we're going to sign people, we need the money for the tax stuff so why would we use money that in the end could save our club to buy some mediocre players
Scott_UB07

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31 Jan 2012 12:04:43
by by jela good by.conned hook line and sinker.well done craig the con man. w.w.t.p

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31 Jan 2012 11:48:11
look fellow bears whyte will not get any players in an he has stole our money two buy our club wake up an get this man out before we are playing in the third division he is a conman an should be removed

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31 Jan 2012 11:35:41
told you last night about the season ticket sale ed n you shot me down. green jhedi

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We told them all months ago when the MG05's were made available for everyone to see.

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31 Jan 2012 11:30:32
R.I.P RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB 1874/2012

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31 Jan 2012 11:29:14
hey guys rangers wont sign anyone today bad times am dissgusted with white and ally with there promises totally rubbish

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31 Jan 2012 11:28:49
Now we broadly know how Whyte has structured taking over the club.

Sell off £24.5m of season ticket income for the next 4 years and use this to pay of the £18m debt to Lloyds.

In doing so Whyte gets an £18m 1st ranking security over Rangers assets in the event of administration.

Cost for Whyte to but Rangers - £1.

Brilliant peice of business. When Rangers go bust Whyte can walk away with an £18m profit for a £1 investment.

And the £18m is paid to Whyte before any payments to other creditors including HMRC as he has a 1st ranking security over Rangers assets.

And all this with a current debt of circa £26m that he can just walk away from. Brilliant.

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In the event of Rangers going into Administration HMRC are the first paid, not Whyte. He will however be paid before any other creditor!

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Why do people say that HMRC will be paid before Whyte in the vent of administration, THEY WILL NOT, Whyte will. Whyte has a 1ST RANKING SECURITY over Rangers assets. That means he gets paid 1st.

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31 Jan 2012 11:16:04
Seriously i think some of you people are on glue...How can you say that rangers will go and sign holt etc if yours are on your knees with not a 2 pennyarcades to rub together. Rangers took the cash for jelavic for one reason and reason only, they were told to by the banks etc, There is not going to be any semi good player walking into ibrox before the deadline...just deal with it!!!!

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31 Jan 2012 11:07:39
right ive been speaking to my 6 day yr old princess about our problems, she smiled, tried to suck my finger so i take it that she thinks we"ll be alright, i belive her more than the record at the minute... craigybear and little baby bear

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Congratulations craigy

rikkisixx

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Ostrich - this comment just about sums up half the Rangers attitude. Wake up and smell the coffee - you're in the sh1t.

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Why not?why are some fans refusing to believe anything that portrays rangers/whyte in a bad way,too many fans stuck their heads in the sand when murray was running the club into the ground,why cant fans waken up and see that whyte hasnt got the means to stabilize the club let alone take them forward?

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Congratulations craigybear n baby bear.the hard work starts now mate.............nut well worth it! green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 10:38:43
I feel sorry for McCoist in all this. He gets the chance to manage the club he loves but gets his top scorer sold halfway through the season and I doubt he will get anything to spend. My patience with Whyte is running out he has had 2 transfer windows and what has he done? I dont think he has Rangers interest at heart and I now believe that we as fans need answers.

Billyboy1

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Just shows you how s**t our so called star goalie and captain davis are that nobody came in for them as well. thats 4 seasons they have been up for sale and no interest and none for any of the other players come to that and no wonder. i can get a team from this area to beat the present rangers team.

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Billtboy1: whytes done plenty mate. hes sold a large chunk of your season tickets to a high interest lender for cash up front,he is now being investigated for non payment of VAT and NI contributions and to cap it all he's also been messing with the VAT man( if you think the tax man is harsh VAT have unlimited powers over companies and there fines are payable immediatly)the trialist fiasco,the lack of investment and this all before you know what HMRC sre gonna take. too many fans buried their head in the sand,the warnings were there,but in whyte you trusted..........green jhedi

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Said that for months regarding whyte but most folk laughed,with some folk still in denial about how the club is being run why was whyte so eager to get rid of jelavic?if there is a serious lack of cash just to run the club on a daily basis fans should have been told by the club...if the story doing the rounds about the season tickets then the fans have paid for the takeover,to say this is normal practice for a club with a possible massive bill from hmrc is beyond belief,sometimes the rhags tell the truth but its only true if it doesnt hurt the club in many fans eyes.will whyte take the DR to court over this?not a chance!

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31 Jan 2012 10:15:53
Jelavic arrived at everton in a BMW to undergo a medical and agree terms on sky

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In a BMW (big gasp) what colour was it.... who cares we all knew he was going, and we all know we are in the sh1t

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Could have been a milk float,still the same result,absolute disgrace.....trueblue.....

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31 Jan 2012 10:28:37
Good Morning bears

Although this morning press is not good reading am I the only one who think this is going to give Mr Whyte a boot up the arse and lead him and Ally pulling off a marvellous transfer coop to get the fans back on side

The Blue Flag

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Yes you are the only one. The club is millions in Debt with administration and possibly liquidation looming and you think pulling off a couple of signings will get everyone back on board? lmfao

Do you not understand that Jelavic is going because there is no money to run the club let alone sign players? This is worse than you can begin to imagine.

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With wot money?. maybe the money use get (if use get it) from the large screens even at that will not be much £15,000 each or they can scrap the metal and stuff in ibrox,haha,stef1967

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@the blue flag:staggering! you must be craig whyte.where is the money coming from? more debt at this time? you really sure?admin is starting to look like a good result. green jhedi

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Never mind the blue flag wave all the whyte flags:-)stef1967,wsnbm,lol

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31 Jan 2012 10:28:27
Mr Whyte, all we want to know is the truth,however bad it could be. Dont hide you are in charge of OUR club. We will always be Rangers . The bigger picture is that Rangers must survive and if that means not winning the title for a couple of years because we cant buy the quality of players that we need to. I would be happy to get the young players playing more often Hemmings,Cole,Perry McMllan etc they need to play more often to get better. Rangers will be here in another hundred and forty years

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31 Jan 2012 10:03:09
is it not time Mr whyte come out and tells us what is going on at rangers , we all know about the tax case, now season tickets have been sold to another party, we do not seem to be moving forward ,rangers seem to be spiraling out of control and this man must come and address us all.
bear in the bay.

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31 Jan 2012 10:00:40
C'mon fellow bears, lay off Coisty, the main problems lie with Craig Whyte who is ruining our great club and McCoist is as angry and frustrated as all us fans but has his hands tied. Jelavic is away to Everton and i for one won't be surprised to see Whyte selling McGegor or Davis either before the deadline tonight. We are in a mess but need to stand together and get Craig Whyte out the door ASAP and get someone with Rangers at Heart as much as McCoist.

Wullie

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it was actually Sir David Murray that ruined your club!

Seems to me he's a bit of an egotist to spend all that money over the years!

Miko x

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31 Jan 2012 09:41:10
When are people going take their heads out the sand on here, we are in a huge pile of s**te and none of you are admitting it.

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Cant think of a single bear who doesnt realise we're in the S@@T. We'll admit it to each other but there are so many noisy dumplings from the other side taking over anything Rangers that most dont get the chance to chat about it. The edds need to give us some breathing space and stop the complete drival posts and concentrate on the Bears for a change. If theyve not gone elsewhere already. CheltBlue

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31 Jan 2012 09:40:08
hopefully we've a few players lined up to come in with the transfer fee and the freed up wages from Nikica Jelavic

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31 Jan 2012 09:38:28
I'll be sad to see Jellyfish go but it could be a turning point in the season

good = it will free up a little money to buy more of a 'squad' that can actually be relied upon when they get called into the starting 11

bad = going to be tough to replace his goals!

Indifferent = will we even see any of the transfer fee being reinvested?

COMMON THE GERS though, never stop shouting it :D

MastarC

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LOAN DEALS ONLY! no money to buy anybody..............green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 09:28:19
ED what do you make of these new stories surrounding Whyte?

Billyboy1 {Ed001's Note - the problem is that no one knows anything for definite, they are just stories and it is impossible to know which ones are true.}

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If they were'nt true the record would not have printed them , you can get sued for printing lies

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31 Jan 2012 09:24:58
20 pound for dundee utd game you can RAM it Mr tight, your a disgrace and I will never be back till you are out of ibrox total conman

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If we do that we will be the reason our club gets in deeper crap, over a barrell , but ill still be going.

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31 Jan 2012 09:18:44
Ok so Jelavic is leaving, well here's my view on it.

Rangers have no cash to hand and required someone to move on and the buying club had to agree a substantial fee up front. We have no credit rating either so no loan facility is available and no bank or credit agency will loan money to Rangers until the tax case is over. (Greece & Ireland have more chance of getting a loan than us).

Everton have supposedly £5m to hand and will hand a chunk of this to Rangers with the rest of the fee being paid in instalments(total £6-7m). If Whyte allows Ally to use the up front cash then this might see 2-3 players coming in,(McCoist must have been told that Jelavic had to go to allow him money, that's why he has been going on about life without Jelavic for the past week), but should we be going for quality rather than quantity?

There could also be a chance of one or two fringe players will move on as there is cash available now, as you cannot move players on without paying them a "loyalty" or "leaving" but again the player may just want to sit tight and bank their wages till the end of their contract which they are perfectly entitled to do.

On the other hand Whyte might bank the cash and leave Ally with nothing, but surely he doesn't have the balls to do this!!

I will reserve my judgement on Whyte until 00.01 tonight to see what happens, if players come in then we may need to lay off him for a bit but if nothing happens then I feel we need to up the anti on him.

Who knows what will happen we will just need to wait and see and hope that we are not too disappointed tomorrow.

The Pilot!

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Time will tell, at least in a few weeks we'll all know the extent of our troubles. I for one will be relieved when its over and we can go back to football wether its 4iar or division 3. Ill still be a bear... CheltBlue

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31 Jan 2012 09:05:37
We should of listened to McClelland. He warned us all Whyte had no legitimate business plan.

Ernesto

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31 Jan 2012 09:04:22
This impending doom story is complete garbage. Does anybody believe a story of this significance would not be front page of every media medium by now if ANY journo had real info. Rediculous, naive boll%x

I for one enjoy green vhirgin and co gloating about our declining financial situation. Funny thing is every single person across the globe knows full well that we are, amids this chaos and impending doom, the dominant force and biggest club in Scotland not to mention defending champions. Their lack of success and inability to capitalise is laughable. Who are the real mugs here?

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Err,you are the biggest mug iv seen on here! dont you get it? debt everywhere and thats before HMRC start picking at your carcass.not paying PAYE and NI from your wage bill and to cap it all not paying VAT! good luck with that.........green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 08:55:11
Guys, we all knew/know that It's going to be a hard few years ahead but we just need to get on with it, again Craig White is not denying any of this he admits it, other clubs do it aswell! Leeds is a bad example they just thought they could keep going, we don't we now live within our means, MoIst has spent in this window and I think he will spend today. And as for Paul Murray, what he didn't get the club so he's going to bit*h about it all the time now, I'd like to know how he would have planned for administration if it happens considering he wanted to move our debt from one bank to the next!!
Dangers

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Moved your debt from one COMPANY to another.very different.. green jhedi

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It is very different, a bank would charge you interest and fee's on top of the money. Craig Whyte won't!
Dmrangers

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31 Jan 2012 08:42:37
Record online running a story about how Whyte has mortgaged 4 years of season ticket sales and hasnt paid VAT owing HMRC more money looks grim folks very grim!!

Daz

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31 Jan 2012 08:22:49
A big thank you James traynor for having the balls and standing up for the fans, we should have all listened to the BBC couple of months ago.

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31 Jan 2012 07:55:37
I see the usual scaremongering is back on the cards by the Timothys and the media. I received a text late last night which stated there will be an 8-page spread on Craig Whyte detailing more dodgy info on dealings and his plans for the club....the main plan being to put The Champions into administration and that he has demanded a police presence at Ibrox and Murray Park at all times for fear of safety......WHAT A LOAD OF PASH!!

....on another laughable. I have noticed of a few internet forums that the Timothys are CONVINCED they will enter the EPL if Rangers go out the game completely. Now, you can't fault some folks dreams but c'mon, surely they aren't that deluded, are they? Which team in the EPL would actually take a gamble leave just to accomodate Celtic? They just can't get it into their thick heads that, IF, they were to enter ANY league in England, they would have to start from the bottom and work their way up, thus being either the conference or League 2, if that was the case then there would be absolutely NO CHANCE Celtic will EVER be seen in the EPL.

WISHFUL THINKING!!!!!

TTG

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Wake up and smell the coffee whyte is a liar and a crook u believe any pish he says

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TTG:you better get ready to work your way up the scottish leagues. admin is a result for you now. messing with VAT! n you think the tax mans hard. green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 07:39:28
Cheers Ed,

And Green Jehdi, if West Ham did offer 7m(Ed says unlikely) then we would accept that over the 5m because as you say we are skint.

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Who said they offered it?not me.....green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 07:01:14
Looks like Jelavic is away today, if we do not do business as in getting strikers in, then today is the day we are declaring the league over. Ally for the sake of your legendary status in the club walk away and dump this shell of a club with Whyte the man who has lied from the moment he appeared. Never did like some of the previous regime like Bain etc but the the whole previous board can't all be wrong.

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If Ally walks away then we are in even more trouble. The fact that like us he is a fan means that he wont walk away. Niko good luck at Everton, sorry to see you go.Thanks for what you did in a short time for us. Sooner the crap all gets sorted out the better, Rangers will go on...

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31 Jan 2012 06:24:58
Jelavic is having a medical at everton its on sky sports we better get a half decent repacement Watp passionface

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31 Jan 2012 06:17:53
WHYTE THE FANS & THE CASH FOR GERS
Craig whyte sold four years of season tickets to keep club running non payment of VAT since whyte took control of the club investigation into that worrying times

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31 Jan 2012 05:17:00
First it was £10 million, then 9, then 8, then 7 (which was knocked back) and finally a settlement for 6.

Mr Whyte football is not a game of poker, when you are up against priemership giants.

The only good thing that has came out of this for genuine Rangers fans in the clarity of your dishonesty.

No season ticket money from me for next season, as I ain't going to line your (Mr Whyte) pocket so you can make a fast buck out of my club...

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If all that is being said is true about season tickets and loans why dont you all refuse to buy any season tickets and start to stand up to Mr Shyte. He is taking all of you as mugs that are blinded for a love of your team. Stand up and be heard. I am a Celtic fan and as much as i love your clubs financial situation I dont want to see you go under.

Ian

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Two faced tosser...trueblue....

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The club needs the finances and you suggest boycotting! Aye, that's a masterplan! lol

Miko x

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31 Jan 2012 03:53:03
Jelavic gone ... Personally I don't mind, we have played not too bad without him. WATP

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We haven't played any differently than we did when he was playing.

We need a replacement for Jelavic. David Healy is not the answer and I fear that McCoist will go into panic buy mode and sign anyone.

If we have to go through the rest of the season with David Healy and Kyle Lafferty as our only strikers, especially when both are prone to injury, then we can kiss the title goodbye.

TBH, I can't see us winning the title anyway. Celtic are that desperate that are signing everyone in sight whilst we can't sign anyone. I will be very surprised if Celtic, with a squad as large as they have, do not win the league.

As much as it pains me to say it, but we have no chance of winning the league!!

TTG

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That's right mate no chance of winning the league I mean we are a massive 1 point behind and Celtic have 1 game in hand, 2 old firm games left and tough away trips for both teams. Yip it's defo gone!!

Don't talk pish, the club is in trouble what it needs is for the true fans to stand up and be counted, this is the club we have loved all our life, supported through thick and think, but because your a glory hunter you want to throw in the towel because we sell Jelavic!!

Never forget no one player is bigger than the club, if he has to go to keep the club going then so be it.

Rangers do not need fans like you so if your not happy then f**k off and support Barcelona!!

The Pilot!

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31 Jan 2012 03:00:51
Ok long time reader of this page and i must say some of th stuff written is terrible

ok onto the jela situation if he goes i will be deeply saddened as he is no doubt a quality player but if he does i would like to see Templeton, Murphy and Skacel come in and by the way i'm not saying we will get any maybe templeton (only say that because we have been linked with him) but Murphy would be a great addition to our squad as well and i really like the look of Skacel plus he is a prolif midfielder in the SPL but i don't hold much hope for them

P.S. In my opinion there are more Celtic fans on RangersRumours than bears that must be Lennon's scouting network ;)

IanTheBear

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Completely true mate. News says Jela is away to Everton, so we will hopefully bring in someone to replace. I heard a terrible rumour at work that O'Connor is going round telling his mates hes coming to the Gers. I would rather sign no-one than that trumpet!
Rangers are still this countrys best team and THATS why this site is polluted with our poor wee rivals drivel !

Blue Knows

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31 Jan 2012 02:59:41
cant believe the amount of fans that seen that picture message and started to panic! get agrip fellow bears Rangers till we Die! which will be never happen! as it will always be passed on from father to son, So Rangers will remain for ever!

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31 Jan 2012 02:29:41
99% of all these "rumours" are coming from that lot don't fall for there s!it boys - there using scare tactics coz deep down there not sure they can win this league... Daily record with ground breaking news ! don't make me laugh .. Yes we are in turmoil an for that worry but don't let that tools wind ya up ! imagine there embarrassment if they can't win this league.. Chin up they got the jambos an caley twice coming up!
macGER

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Macger.bet you feel like a right div now eh? green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 02:16:40
Jelavic to the Toffee's, big wow, what does it actually matter to us, the fans, the ones that ain't earning a few grand a week where these over pay'd football players go? KNOW WHAT, FOOTBALL IN GENERAL CAN GET LOST. Rugby is much better, no divas, no pussies, real sport. Learn to take a tackle.

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31 Jan 2012 02:11:04
Got a paper nothing in it about rangers AT all

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Heard its (meant)to be in the second edition

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Jelivic deffo everton player it.s on sky sports

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Craig Whyte admits he sold 4 years worth of season tickets

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/01/31/rangers-owner-craig-whyte-admits-he-sold-four-years-worth-of-season-tickets-to-keep-ibrox-club-running-86908-23728301/

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31 Jan 2012 01:38:20
Cheers ed for replying to my message just really worried fear the worst just hope its not true Watp {Ed001's Note - I have to say, things aren't looking good. Jelavic was being shopped around, but that could have been him wanting to leave rather than any money issue. But it does make you wonder. But one thing I am finding a little difficult to swallow is the thought of someone being able to mortgage the next few seasons' season ticket money. Not just because of the difficult financial climate, but because of the tax case. Who would loan millions to a company in the middle of a huge tax case and which has already admitted that it could well go into administration to avoid paying creditors, in the event the case is lost. Seems highly unlikely any financial institution would consider it a good time to loan Rangers millions of pounds. So I am of the opinion that any story revolving around that is likely to be false.}

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Unless your co-director is a major player with the loan company? unless you change the company name to facilitate the loan? green jhedi {Ed001's Note - why would a co-director agree to that? That would mean risking his money.}

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Jhedi - your not very bright mate, I don't have issues with you wishing us bad times or even for us to go out of existance, I have issues with your intelligence or lack of it .. you posted about 100 times on this site, most of it total nonesense - I have in front of me the Daily Record and unless its in the late addition - your going have a little bit of explaining to do since you are one of the regulars on here that stated it was in it...

Pete

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Pete: apology any time mate.i am assuming you can/have read the paper..............green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 01:27:56
Wow those Celtic fans are crapping it! We beat Hibs 4-0 without Jelavic and now they are so frightened of a return to a bit of harmony (at least on the pitch) that they are reduced to swamping this site with their cheap taunts. The fact of the matter is that they are beginning to realise that if they lose the league this year after all the rubbish that we have been through and all the tax advice they have forced down our necks that they will be one sad sack of a team. A team that is so poor that its supporters would wish the demise of their biggest rivals just to be able to say they have beat them!
So enjoy the entry of the Pole into the rear of your squad especially that long haired Sammyarse and lets see how you get on Wednesday. Whether you truly believe it was 15 points or the more realistic 9 points won't matter at the end of the season because we will claw back this 4 and the Champion mentality will kick in and 4IAR will be ours. Then you really will want to spend more time on your own site rallying the 1 or 2 sad sacks that masquerade as 5 or 6 posters on this site.
We are still the SPL Champions and so WE welcome the chase!
Nicko 1872

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Nicko1872: soon to be 11 points thicko! go on your rumours page and read the tax case exerpt.its over.........................green jhedi

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Brilliant Nicko.good post mate.
drumlad

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Green jedguy,you can only hope we go under eh pal? you dont half spout some amount of colin nish.bitter,bitter wee loner.stop polluting our page with your drivel,you arent even close to 'bantering',save us the hassle of reading yer crap.
drumlad

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Didnt rangers fans wish to see the demise of celtic in the early 90 s?just asking like.

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Just what is a tax case excerp jhedi lol ... your really are needing some serious remedial time back at school
If you mean the idiots that post on the RTC blog then your dumber than I gave you credit for.

Pete

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31 Jan 2012 01:14:02
i bet this marvin 'fae the scheme' celick is delighted with his choice of club.....i'm hearing he's ringfencing his next weeks wages just in case


taco

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31 Jan 2012 01:08:18
The breaking story tomorrow is that McCoist and Whyte are one and the same person....Ally's alter ego, other persona!
Has anybody seen them together, apart from those Photoshop pictures?
"I'll sit down and have a chat with Craig!" McCoist's been talking to himself all this time...he bought Rangers with his last quid and he can't get any money off himself to buy players!!

you read it here first;)


taco

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Lololol

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Jesus, I thought Timmy was bad, but I take it all back this guy found his reject Joke Book... Timmy buy it back from him mate, I will sub you to 50p

Pete

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That's a tremendous post! One that I am now having to give serious consideration to. The facts are almost overwhelming.lol.

GDog
WATP

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31 jan 2012 01:08:00
first time poster i think its a joke that certain members of the cxxxxc support have to come onto a rangers fan page to gloat about the demise of a rival. if rangers go down the tubes celtic will follow pretty swiftly. the rivalry between the clubs keeps people interested in scottish football. so too get short cited txxxs givin it the cherio rangers look at the bigger picture no rangers who will give a monkeys chuff about celtic!!! you need us as much as we need you. so rather than posting pitiful nonsence go to your own fan page if there is anyone there and gloat with your pals about signing another rangers target! jelavic might go but rangers are ready. come on ally u got my support even tho whyte does'nt. rangers thro and thro

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Why would celtic go down the tubes?

in fact, i'm not even gonna bother responding to any of your inane drivel....if you can't even bring your bitter little fingers to type CELTIC, you deserve no reply


taco

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Its been going on for months now, but remember its a banter page, dont take everything to heart.

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Keep following throw and throw.............right to brechin n alloa n stirling albion........green jhedi

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Jhedi i know its late but dont you mean through and through? mark.

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Taco i think you will find the poster is talking about people like you timalloy and all the rest (with the exception of lenny) bitter ffs get a grip just because he/she doesnt want to post celtic deal with it!

for a change can we not have a conversation about football its getting really boring not all the off field shyte? or is that beyond you and all the rest of the keyboard warriors

Wullie

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Again Jhedi - your show you should have paid a little more attention in school, or maybe you've not left yet- thats 3 posts you've made an erse of tonight

Pete

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Taco, I think you need to address the " bitter " CELTIC support that cannot find it in themselves to type the word RANGERS, it goes both ways, so if you can't deal with it I suggest you move on

Taxismyname

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31 Jan 2012 00:57:12
David Murray hang your head in shame

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Did someone press disagree by mistake?

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31 Jan 2012 00:50:29
when does the first issue of the Daily Record come out? If this five page spread is true? Hope its no Craig Whyte doing a centrefold

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31 Jan 2012 00:45:01
Bye bye sandheids hate to say I told u so!!
Hoodbhoy

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Question for u mate is are you that much of a glory hunter to watch a team win 10-15 titles in a row because ur rival has went out of buiness cause personally i think it would be pretty boring and lets face it nae more tv money due to it being a one team league so aye enjoy rangers going out of buiness all u want mate bitterness seems to always trump common sense with old firm fans

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Dont be a mug.you wont be outa buisness just pumped to div 3.see you in a few years if you get back up..........good luck with that. green jhedi

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31 Jan 2012 00:24:47
Ed, can you tell me why Rangers are accepting a 5 million pound from Everton when they rejected a 7 million pound bid from West Ham?

Surely you sell to the highest bidder and if Everton want him badly then you tell them to atleast match West Hams offer?

Cheers,

G95 {Ed001's Note - it could be a number of things, for one is their any guarantee a skint West Ham really offered to pay 7m? Because I have seen nothing which suggests that they could pay that kind of money. It could be payment terms, sell on agreements, getting rid of the Ball debt etc etc.}

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G95: cos your SKINT! n need money to keep afloat. green jhedi

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WOW its up to 5m now, reports says we excepted a deal of 3.5 million, it must be true - its on RTC - they have inside information - spoke to Everton directors "directly" they saw it in a text from Celtics Directors, that the end game for Rangers is tomorrow, really we go out of business tomorrow ............. but they also saw Samaras score the penalty at Ibrox, swear to god that Big Shagger never saved it, They said Celtic WON at inverness ...... lol

Get Real .. read the record ... F**K all in it ..

Pete

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The fee is 'understood' to be 'around' the 5 mil mark. The other mob are just guessing with just a touch of their usual negative spin and you really need to stop listening to them, we all do. Put it this way, they post so much guff on here and other rumour and 'fan' sites and if they're right about this, it'll be a first. Lets wait and see where we stand tomorrow and when the dust settles and Armageddon is nowhere in sight, we can look forward to hearing their next desperate fantasy. duccablue

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31 Jan 2012 00:17:55
Well jellyfish away ? Everyone saying title race is over ? Same was said when we lost miller last year ? And the year before that and year before that ? Can only fire gers up c/mon rangers keep the faith

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Keep the faith? all too late im afraid......green jhedi

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That's right, we did say the league title was lost when sold Kenny Miller.....but we had a certain Nikica Jelavic on the ranks to bang in the goals....

This year, if Jelavic is sold, we have.................DAVID HEALY!!!

TTG

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30 Jan 2012 23:57:56
will if its true and Ally McCoist at least he'll get a spot on Question of Sport

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30 Jan 2012 23:54:12
Seems to be a lot a fu**ing idiots about tonight, suddenly somehow the games a bogey!?

I'm willing to bet its all bullsh!t, as per usual.

I'm not saying all is good but I don't believe the sh!t either.
What's really sad about all this is that The Tics really want to see us die. it's bitter and sad, truthfully sad. I'm willing to bet that most of us would want the same if it was them, again that's just sad.

Scottish football without Rangers is one thing.....BLEAK!

Keep the head Teddy Bears, it's not that sudden when going out of business.

GDog
WATP

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How dare you have a go at us. It's your own fault.. You's where that thick yaz did care where yaz got the money to buy players but now it's come back to haunt yaz. I've only to think back to last year to what happen on more that one occasion why I'd be glad to see the back of yaz. Good Riddance.

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You've only yourselves to blame.

lied, deceived and cheated your way for years. your club is the epitome of bitterness and all that is wrong in scottish football and scottish society.

may rangers fc burn in hell!

i genuinely feel sorry for about the 2% of real supporters....the rest of you are knuckledragging bigots still living in the 17th century

you reap what you sow....karma is a muddafugger!


taco

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Lmao that's right rangers are to blame for everything wrong in Scotland lol burn in hell haha do you where hell is ? I know a song about that ? I've saved your comment all I need is your email now. I'll be the first to send u a wee runners up message in may lol

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And there it is! the song you refer to is a bigot anthem! what a tool you are.and you wonder why your so hated?

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Taco stop talking mince i think you need to chilli out

Wullie

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30 Jan 2012 23:41:47
Look bears don't get hooked way thus traynor story. Think bout it, the tax case is just over, the transfer window is just closing. Its probably just publicity trick to sell the paper, be some crappy tax story or somethin. I work for huge well known company, not a media one but I can tell u all big companies are the same.. Scumbag, money grabbing b*stards the lot of them. Note:- I don't sell or take part in that aspect if the company.

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Tax case over? when did you get the results? green jhedi

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