Rangers Banter Archive October 02 2013

02 Oct 2013 21:09:26
Its good to see Wallace included in the Scotland squad!, He should start because Whittaker is suspended.

With him, McLeod and probably Peralta away on international duty. Will the game against Dunfermline be cancelled?

Has blackie not been selected? I had a fiver on it aswell. Ha.

Surely that's why stevie smith was bought

Game shouldn't be canceled. Big enough squad to cover 3 players.

@4 not saying it should but I am sure it's within the rules for a team to cancel game if they have a certain amount of players away on international duty

Dunfermline game has been cancelled:official rangers website

03 Oct 2013 13:57:01
No games/protests at Ibrox then till after AGM. Board will be delighted.

Could we really not have played a bunch of kids from a club in admin?

@5 I wasn't saying you did say it should be cancelled. I was just giving my personal opinion on the matter. It's cancelled now but I think it should have went ahead. {The Ed039's Note - Why? There are SPFL teams with no international call ups and their game is off as well? Any team with 3 international call ups next week would have their game postponed so why not Rangers?)

Quite right ed

What a bunch on here, we are perfectly within our rights to have the game cancelled, three players called up (all certain starters) and two on stanby (one certain starter)for NI

I don't remember the same fuss when the QoS game was cancelled on 7th September

Everyone calling for Rangers to act within the rules, well we are,

JG

Well said ed some people love to moan its our right to have the game cancelled if our players are on internation duty other teams do it but their fans don't complain but then again it only our fans who are not happy well clear in league banging in the goals I know its only the ist or old second division but we can only play who is in front of us give him a break for god sake

Op see what you started here? Please don't post anything positive on here mate, you see the response it drags out

JG

Op bye the way you are right it's good to see Wallace getting a call up, he deserves it

JG

02 Oct 2013 16:32:40
Scott Brown is like Barry Ferguson, wee neds that should never captained old firm sides, both are clueless.

Barry Ferguson was a great player for Rangers. Can't believe someone coming on here and having a go at him

I can remember souness calling kenny mc dowell a headless chicken well when brown was with hibs he was like that and is still the same thank F we never bought him doug t. s. o

Barry Ferguson was 10 times the player brown is brown can't pass, dribble, header or shoot. jmgers

@1 he was a ned nothing to do with how good he was a football.

@4 do you know him personally? If so can you give us some examples of his nedish behaviour?

@4 He WAS a Ned? Past tense so I take it he isn't now? Or was he just a Ned when he played for Rangers?

That was one of Murrays major mistake taking Fergusons side against the manager, Barrys ideas of his ability and importace to Rangers bore no resemblance to reality.

Barry was an outstanding servant to rangers brown shdnt even been mentioned in the same breath and I went to school with him an he wasn't a bed


KJA

02 Oct 2013 20:28:02
7. Firstly I lrated Barry as a player for Rangers and Scotland, in fact I saw him at Wembley in 98 and he looked better than than anyone in the England midfield BUT. one of the big what if's in Rangers history is what if Barry was sold and PLG allowed in really instil his philosophy into Rangers?

Just maybe we wouldn't be in the position we are now but then again we'll never know. Me and some long term fans believed Murray should have chosen Le Guen over him and for him to be given more time.

@ 5 and 6 are you being serious? Every tv interview started with aye man. Ha, did you not see the way only an excuse took the Mick, shell suits etc. Ha.

Scott brown has come out and said he accepts responsibility for his actions. So he's admitted he deliberately kicked an opponent. Maybe lenno should of consulted his captain before releasing an embarassing statement when everybody can see; 1. Scott brown clearly changing direction towards neymar and 2. Scott browns length of "stride" increases for one step only - ie to kick neymar.

Ed do you agree that if ally had the same players as last season we wouldn't get the crowds were getting now that in my opinion why he had to give good wages to good players {The Ed039's Note - Yes)

@9 it was 99 we played at wembley.

@9, spot on re Le guen decision.

So now le guen is the one that got away? because he's been. pulling up trees everywhere else he's Been since. He never understood the club or the British game. It was nipped in the bud before it got out of hand. Le guen experience was a bad one.

@15, if Le Guen had been manager and getting some of the results Ally got would he have kept the job.

@16 probably not. However it is a unique situation at rangers now. Le guen took over a team which included several players who won the championship 12 months before and added his own players. sebo 1.8m svensoon 1m? sionko 1.5m letitzi plus others. and was out of the title race by halloween, lost the dressing room and looked way out of his depth if you recall. ally took over a championship side added a couple of players way down his wanted list and was 4 points off top come feb 14th. then yes you got it admin and all that followed. short memories some people. Le Guen flopped. Ally may well flop still. but I don't think he's had the same chance as any other rangers manager in history.

@17, my point is no one but Ally would have been kept on with some of the results, not to mention performances never mind results.

03 Oct 2013 14:01:31
We all accepted Le Guen was one of the best young managers in Europe when he came to manage Ibrox. Not even Ally's cheerleaders could claim that in their wildest dreams.

And Le Guen was very honourable about not pursuing as much money as possible when he left, one of the few in recent years and not even one of our own.

@19 Let Guen made a complete mess of the job before and during his time at Rangers. He didn't study the Scottish game before he came and took it far to lightly. That isn't the actions of a great manager. He also seemed to have PSG lined up very quickly after he left which suggests that he was already making arrangements before he went. Since the Rangers job he hasn't really been a success in management and has never had a really top job since. It's too simplistic for anyone to blame Ferguson for what happened I am sure there were a number of things.

02 Oct 2013 13:42:34
Personally find it ridiculous the abuse mccoist is getting, if a remember right at the end of last season people were saying " give him a season and let him buy his own players then you would make judgement. This season he bought his own players, every single one a free agent at that and we've won every game in the league and scored about 32 goals, scoring like 4 or more every game! If that's no good enough then a don't know what is?

RJ

I second op the players he has brought in have been great and all for free I do question his wages and others in that boardroom of ours but this team is good enough to take us back to the top league so let's sit back and enjoy the ride goals galore what else do we pay for if when we get back he isn't doing the job well let's look at it then

With all due respect, we are playing in a league that consists of part time semi professional players, just a small step above amateur level, I could probably go into my local pub tonight and pick a team of punters that would give most of the teams in this league a run for their money, why the need for McCoist to spend millions on wages to win this league is beyond me, unbelievable!
CW

Rangers are playing in the 3rd tier of Scottish football and Ally has been able to have a team with a wage bill of £7.8m to compete against part time players. Do you not expect us to walk this league?

Tell that to celtic beaten by part timers like morton

@4 in a 1 off cup game anything is possible. After all Celtic did beat Barcelona last season. 1 poor result doesn't come close to the amount of poor results Ally has had against part time teams

Do you not understand, rangers cannot afford not to get promoted. So yes it is necessary to. pay top dollar to ensure we get promotion. Players I mean. I think allys wages are a bit high. But Like most employees, you don't set your own. wage.

@6 QOS managed to get promoted very easily from Div 2 without anywhere near the resources Ally has so no up you don't need to pay top dollar to win that league

@6 sorry is that not the function of agents to get the best wage they can for their client the player or the manager? So yes they and most certainly Ally set their wage level- they cannot blame others for that.

@8 so your saying the agent dictates the wage? How does that work? Ally is only going to get one job. Rangers. the club should be naming his wage. not ally. Ally is in no position to demand a level of wage. If he does and they accept who is the fool. you got it. the club. so in your theory the agent says ally wants x amount and then gets it? the board then should say yes or no and negotiate. so no an employee does not set his own wage

@7 so do you think qos HAD to get promoted? no. It was an admirable acheivment but it doesn't mean it can happen every season. it may be because they had a good bunch of players at one time. Interestingly I do not see qos running away witrh championship title as they did div 2 last season so your argument is flawed. our team is equipped for higher standards than championship I feel. Or would you prefer to scrape our way to promotion possibly then have to rebuild next summer? The players we have signed may not be available then. We must ensure a promotion every season. Just like certain clubs in epl have to ansure ch league qual so spend vast sums on players.

Jeez. the club sanctioned his wage. Give the guy a break. I remember all the moaning he had to put up with as a player in his early career. he did OK as it turns out. I think those who criticise are doing him an immense disservice. I expect him to achieve great things as Rangers manager. Dav

Well we are walking the league so why complain?

RJ

@4) You forgot Forfar mate aye. Some cheek

To number 5 celtic couldn't beat arbroath at parkhead last season and barcelona are nowhere as good as they were 3 years ago no messi no cutting edge

02 Oct 2013 13:05:57
The figures shown in rangers accounts are shocking, 3rd division wages of 7.8 millon, staff costs 17.9 millon, ally mccoist worst manager in club history 825, 858, 1.8 millon on stadium WiFi, trackside LED screens and jumbo screens, come on who needs that garbage in the 3rd division?

02 Oct 2013 10:26:29
Typical Celtic response to the Neymar /Brown incident. Their captain fouls the Barca player who is heading towards goal and when he is lying on the ground kicks him on the back and arm and its Neymars fault?
Typical sneaky underhand behaviour of Brown and Lennons response is the usual pathetic utterings that we have come to expect.

Brown has always been a liability a disgrace for a captain

Op did you watch the game. Yes shocking what Brown done should never have kicked out.

However it was a tap to the arm at most the reaction from Neymar was shocking.

Yes Brown had to walk for what he done but Neymar and his reaction helped the Ref.

Ian

What's he to do. Publicly slate him? Did McCoist no support and publicly defend black for betting on rangers not to win.

Indeed the tackle was in par with the one where Souness walked of the park with parts of an opposing players reproduction organs still stuck to his boot.
Life ban for Broon now. TTTS

Ian wonder what you would've said if it was neymar that kicked Brown?

Yes I did watch the game and I think the first contact was with Neymars back. I agree his reaction was over the top but it was a deliberate kick. I don't think that Mr McCoist was correct in his response to the Black situation just as I don't think Mr Lennon is correct in his response to the Brown one.

@2 it was a kick in the arm and a "gentle" knee in the head- life threatening absolutely not but stupid and reckless absolutely. But in all honesty would the majority of rangers fans prefer to see him playing in our midfield- absolutely yes. Only good players from your opposition raise the ire seen here- mediocre players don't bother the rival fans.

@5 I would have said the exact same as I did for Brown. Brown should never have raised his foot and deserved to walk even though it was a tap. He didn't need to raise his foot. He should have taken the yellow and walked away.

If it was the other way around then yes Neymar would have to walk. Anyone that takes a deliberate kick at an opposition deserves a straight red.

Brown should now have the captains armband removed.

Ian

@7. )
Line 1 No/ it was after the foul
Line 2 No Danger
Line 3 Unless they score

@8 that would be a good idea taken the armband but Lennon is showing the same personic mind as brown with saying it wasn't a red card and now apparently going to appeal the decision I hope he gets a 3 game ban After the appeal

@2 how did net arms reaction help the ref. I think you will find that brown lashing out like he did helped the ref

@11: ref was originally giving a yellow until he reconsidered, maybe based on the reaction. In any case, Brown shouldn't have done what he did - he should have known what could have happened and it did.

N7 I would not agree and was glad when he signed for celtic as I think rangers were looking at him thank feck they got him