Rangers Banter Archive July 02 2015

02 Jul 2015 19:37:35
just a thought the reason we mite no be signing strikers is we have a few already at the club Walsh mckay hardie gallager clark miller these guys all prefer to play as strikers and should be played in there rite positions so this is maybe why we are not signing attackers

02 Jul 2015 19:55:29
Walsh and mackay aren't strikers mate. Mackay is not and never will be good enough to play for rangers the same way he wasn't good enough to play for raith last season. My 2 year old has a better first touch than Clark and Kenny miller although he brings experience I'd have said he won't play 40 games next season.

02 Jul 2015 20:13:27
Mckay will get a chance under Warburton the same as anybody else. it's a fresh slate for the pplayers like him. a striker is needed but they are hard to come by.

02 Jul 2015 20:37:57
I agree it is a clean slate but but a boy deemed not good enough for raith rovers us unlikely to be a fist team regular for us next season?

02 Jul 2015 20:51:10
trust me mate both these player where brought up to play as strikers we then turned them into wingers or tried with mackay they prefer to play up front walsh is still developing I would rather have mackay than sheilds our team is basically the same as last year so far and competitive football round corner so the likes of mackay aird walsh callager will get there chance just now expect loan deals near the end of window

02 Jul 2015 22:35:09
about these guys looking for holiday pay they have been getting holiday pay every month for the last three years as they have done nothing but laze around and play golf when they should have been training murray park was one big holiday camp

03 Jul 2015 00:09:21
The problem with the current team is that there are still players there who played and failed last season. Clark, Aird, Bell, Zaliukis, Templeton, Law and Crawford. We were poor all over the park, had no flair or real goal threat. If u think we only need a couple of players one of which would have to be a keeper then be prepared for yet another poor season. Warburton may be a good coach but he isn't a miracle worker. I agree about a smaller squad but there is still plenty of deadwood at the club and we do need another 5 or 6 quality players

02 Jul 2015 18:34:26
I am raging at the front these wasters such as Foster, Boyd and Black have to dare to complain at how they were treated by Rangers.

Had they been working in industry or commerce they would ALL including 90% of the squad have been sacked without pay and been blacklisted from their trades.

They are a disgrace to the Rangers shirt every last one of them

The 6-1 aggregate destruction by Motherwell and the lack of any fight or quality in 180 minutes of "football" was enough alone for them to be ravaged by Rangers and the support, far less the season full of sh*te they played against Alloa to name but one.

They have the biggest brass neck ever to come out with the whining greeting faced rubbish they are now that the cash cow has dried up, funny how they all said nothing when on their huge overpaid salaries

Glad they are all gone and King was spot on it needed said, they are lucky the fans can't get how they feel over to them in the same way as they would clearly be in for a shock

02 Jul 2015 19:48:33
However, It is pretty embarassing our club can't follow simple business etiquette and communicate with their staff. Its unprofessional in my opinion.

02 Jul 2015 21:40:17
Kt you obviously know as much about industrial law as you do about football , they would not have been sacked as they fulfilled their contractual obligations . Should the motherwell players have been sacked if rangers had beaten them? Losing games is not a sack able offence .

03 Jul 2015 06:19:39
fabidoo,

Yes you are actually a genius I use this site and my posts on it for University students I lecture on:

"Trite and Petty Attitudes of the Working Class in Glasgow's East End in the 21st Century"

I take everything I say totally seriously and constantly strive never to make a point that I have not researched meticulously for days, before I post it.

Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention.

03 Jul 2015 08:08:05
Fab1 I don't know the answer to this so please take it as a genuine question. If you are a business owner or in management on behalf of an owner and you have employees who are very well paid but not up to the job do you not chat with them, tell them if things do not improve you will have to issue a warning,no improvement - then give them a warning, and then finally dismiss them if there is no improvement in performance/attitude/ability?
Why is football different from most other walks of life?
You might say it's subjectivity but if you have several thousand clients/customers agreeing with your assessment of the employee's performance there must be a way to see them off the premises without breaking any employment law? What is so special about footballers? There certainly hasn't been anything special about Mr McCoist's selections who now need yet more money and a wee thank you- musn't forget our manners and gratitude for jobs in the main diabolically performed but hey I'm being subjective again.

03 Jul 2015 08:45:07
The problem with that mannering is that it is all subjective, you don't think that they are playing well but they say they are trying to the very best of their ability and it's just that the other players are better or luckier than they are . So ( as rangers have done ) you take the hit , pay them what they are due . Then you look at your recruitment policy and make sure the guy who hired them is never in a position to recruit anyone else , then you turn your attention to the people or person who gave him the power to recruit these guys in the first place , unfortunately for you that guy has already rode of into the sunset with his saddle bags full of cash .

02 Jul 2015 16:43:39
Was just looking on the official rangers page seen Barrie McKay back training again a think the wee man will shine this year under warburton and weir

02 Jul 2015 18:04:55
Love watching him play he has a good attitude.

02 Jul 2015 18:27:27
Going by a few of my mates who are raith fans and go most weeks Barrie Mackay won't be in MW plans. He wasn't good enough for raith so unlikely he will be good enough for Rangers.

02 Jul 2015 18:54:53
his problem was not team player did not like to track back but has talent

02 Jul 2015 19:32:08
Looks unlikely,you never know.
Players can thrive under different methods.I'd love to see the boy do well for us I must admit.

02 Jul 2015 19:57:35
I'd love to see him do well also and the fact he is still under contract I reckon he should be given his chance at ibrox against the poorer sides and in cup games to see if he can improve but I reckon he's not the answer.

02 Jul 2015 21:44:43
MD he has a good attitude? Are you having a laugh that is the complete opposite to what he has he needs to get the head down train hard his attitude stinks

03 Jul 2015 00:27:58
Aye nae bother pal. didn't realize his everyday followers were on this.

02 Jul 2015 12:29:42
i know we have to be patient, but it is now july 2 and we appear to be running fast to standstill through muddy waters on the transfer front, in order to gel the squad, we need to tie up the 3 0r 4 signings we are chasing, otherwise we are in a very sticky starting block for the season.Foderingham, Holt, Wabara, Eustace and also we need a regular goalscorer on top of them.
If we have money to spend ( and I am having my doubts) then we also could be doing with bidding for Allan.
the season gets under way in 3 weeks, not a lot of time to prrepare

02 Jul 2015 13:19:34
Don't think Eustace will be signed, if you give clark chances he will score goals his main problem last season was doing to much work outside the box. the younger players, hardie, gallagher, mckay, dykes etc. need a chance. would hubs be as good a side without Jason cummings? They have him a chance and he has repaid them.

02 Jul 2015 15:00:51
Clark is not the answer the boy has 1 Of the worst 1st touches I've seen and just doesn't seem to get the goals required and this season he had his chances he's not for me but each to there own

02 Jul 2015 15:29:35
The transfer window only opened yesterday ffs show a bit of patience

02 Jul 2015 15:44:20
so how did we get Wilson and Kiernan and Lang and Gibson?? before yesterday??

02 Jul 2015 16:38:27
They weren't under contract or were released by their clubs the transfer window officially opened yesterday patience eh in advanced talks with the Swindon keeper and the young boy holt from hearts that good enough for you today

02 Jul 2015 16:45:31
pre-season "transfer window" dates
in Scotland.

9 June – 1 September.

pre-season "transfer window" dates
in England.

1 July – 1 September.

02 Jul 2015 18:19:30
Didn't we pay a transfer fee for keirnan? Or was that for development?

02 Jul 2015 17:38:31
Agree with wee bill, we lost 11 contracted players plus vuckic and ferguson.bell, zaliukas, clark, ,tempeton and crawford not good enough. The other younger players are untested in a season long battle. Anyone who knows anything about football knows it takes time for a new team to gel. So its reasoable to be concerned. Hibs are 12 moths ahead of us and though we played well agaist them in the play offs they were still the betta team. We need a good spine and we need them in soon to hit the ground running. Otherwise I see us in the play offs again. Ihope not but ee are 3 weeks awaty
Y from our 1st competitive game.

02 Jul 2015 18:28:30
Not sure how anyone can disagree with what I posted about transfer dates. Google it and you'll learn.

03 Jul 2015 06:12:28
wee bill

Ah the virtue of patience. NOT

Transfer window OPENED yesterday officially and SHUTS in 8 weeks time.

The management is just in the door and I would point out the board got exactly the right team by being patient while person's such as you were slagging them off for procrastinating.

Can you and the rest of the sign '12 players in one day and win the league NOW' brigade take a chill pill and leave running the club to the professionals and try supporting the club.

03 Jul 2015 06:14:50
as you said bill be patient there is a lot going on that we don't know and seemingly warburton is away trying to do business as we speak. he has a very tough job convincing players that we are the right club for them scottish football has a bad rep down south as you know and warburton is trying to sign english championship players, who will get us back to the premier and do the job there too.

02 Jul 2015 08:31:23
Latest season ticket sales figure at 21000 which at adult price would bring in just over £6.5m

02 Jul 2015 09:05:10
With just over 21,000 season tickets sold is this slightly disappointing or well on the way to having a decent number in the 30s sold by the time the new season starts in just over a month.

02 Jul 2015 09:24:05
Its a decent number I think we had 23,000 last season so nearly all have renewed and 15,000 boycotted last season so let's say 80%. of them renew and public sale still to come aswell I reckon we could get a decent number this season

02 Jul 2015 14:00:26
It's a great number considering this was just renewals from those who did not boycott. If they boycotters return I don't think D will be far of his 40K target recokon it will be around 35K marker.

02 Jul 2015 17:25:03
About £1.1m of the £6.5m goes to the VAT man remember.

03 Jul 2015 06:12:54
The moment Rangers start producing winning and exciting football the stadium will fill if not possibly even sell out

People are skeptical after 3 years of the worst football ever played at Ibrox by a Rangers 'team'

If you build it they will come!

01 Jul 2015 23:56:46
Alot of people on here slating king he did say he would invest money but whos to say warburton and weir has asked him to buy players these guys are getting cheap deals to sell on for profit he's says that is what he does we moaned last year about over spending now we moan about under spending got to have a middle ground somewhere and let's not forget all the rangers staff still get paid over the summer break so with no income ie matches whos footing that bill most likely king let's give them a chance before we moan 🇬🇧

02 Jul 2015 07:18:42
Great post scotty we are now heading down a complete new route which is what should have been done a long time ago the days of big signings and throwing big wages at them are gone for the foreseeable future especially when we are in the championship league I mean after all this is a complete rebuild of the entire club it's not going to happen overnight I think it will be at least 3 years for us to be fully functional as a proper team and club as a whole before millions will be invested,but as it stands just now let's be patient and support W&W whom I for 1 trust 100% the way they are going about things. keep the faith 🇬🇧

02 Jul 2015 08:04:29
Completely agree Scotty, there is no pleasing some people, I would understand if the players we have signed were poor quality but they look decent so I'm happy with how things are going!

02 Jul 2015 09:07:32
Turning this into a love fest but I agree guys.
This is about planning and one part /the first stage is a year long. If W&W have it right with current and future buys better to have a wee bit in hand for this time nxt year when in top flight (I hope!)
BTW
are Foster and Black for real?
one couldn't do it and one couldn't be a**ed.
They were lucky they didn't get a phone call

02 Jul 2015 15:42:24
OP If you King is footing any bills be sure his well paid PR agency would let us all know.

01 Jul 2015 22:45:24
Disagree with a lot of posters regarding how our recently released players have not been contacted by the club ( if true). Mr King, Murray and Gilligan have stated on numerous occasions that the club has to get back to previous standards and behaviours. Treating any body like this never mind ex players is just rude and certainly not the standards I expect from our club. The club should apologise and move on.

02 Jul 2015 06:47:09
their all big boys I'm sure they'll get over it ,where's the fans apology from the players for not going up, for the rubbish performances, for the gambling against your own team, for imitating being a Ranger player, for under achieving, ect ect ect,

02 Jul 2015 08:07:49
It's not about them being "big boys" it's time we started looking inward again, getting this club back to where it belongs and having the true standards of the quintessential British club that we truly are! We need to be professional at all times and show once again that we are a class above the rest!

02 Jul 2015 10:35:00
We are not a "quintessential British club" we are 100% a Scottish club ,all our titles have been won in Scotland ,all our Cup successes have been in Scotland.
Our sojourns into Europe, the 1972 team all as a representative for Scottish football.
When our "quintessential British club" keech comes out we start getting bans,riots and bad publicity.
The sooner we dump this British/Ulster nonsense the better for our club in all and every sense.
Back in the late 80s with Souness we began the modernising of our club .
Let us drop this British nonsense and be proud of our Scottish heritage and roots.

02 Jul 2015 11:41:59
Well said Scotty and I can't be arsed with similar ties at my club.

02 Jul 2015 13:34:38
Well Scotland as I am sure you are aware is part of Britain therefore British just like Rangers, the fan base in NI is huge and surprisingly big in England. Our first decent cup run was in the ENGLISH FA Cup and if we were offered the chance to play in England we would be out of the SPFL quicker than Lovenkrands against the celts. Would we then become English? I am in ni was sectarian nor have I ever rioted or got banned or caused our club to relieve bad publicity. But I am immensely proud to be British and support a British Rangers. This can all be done without the other nonsense.
Apart from all that you missed my point, standards! That was the important part of what I said, standards and professionalism.

02 Jul 2015 13:35:55
You might be a tartan terrier scotty but see how far you get without your U.K passport when you try and go abroad.

02 Jul 2015 14:25:13
Castelbear it is NOTHING to do with my politics and all to do with the image of our club.
Frankly I find the ones in our support that allow the Rule Britannia keech to hone their politics quite ,quite pathetic.

Just remember it was HMRC (as in Her majesty's) that laid the fatal blow that sees us where we are today.
The British establishment did not go out to set an example against the "irish" Celtic or the English Man Utd
They came after the most "British",loyalist devoted lot.
Think about it, do you think the British establishment would have allowed Manchester United ,or Arsenal ,or Liverpool or Spurs to have gone the way they did RFC?
As to Gaz when I hear Arsenal or Manchester United fans and commentators referring to the British Man U , British arsenal I might give your delusion some credence.
We are situated in Scotland ,we are a Scottish club and the time in the English Ccup you refer to was in the 19th Century ,much like the attitude of our more knuckle dragging eejits that bring their racist ,bigotted nonsense into our club.
It is 2015 ,not 1690 ,or 1916.

02 Jul 2015 16:26:38
What delusion is it that I have Scotty?

02 Jul 2015 18:11:50
Well I'm not racist or a bigot, in fact I'm not even a Protestant, but I am British just like Rangers. As far as HMRC are concerned I don't think we can blame anybody but the people who were running the club for our downfall, as much as I feel our punishment was harsh but we can't blame HMRC.
You also didn't respond to our clubs desire to play in England and compete for English trophies, would that make us English Scotty?

02 Jul 2015 19:32:50
Your "delusion" is with the entire "British" nonsense if you mean Greater England ,you are welcome to that.
What exactly is your version of "British?"
as to our desire you allege I have not heard one scintilla from the new board about playing in England ,perhaps you can give a link to this assumption
perhaps you can also explain why as world record holders under the banner of Scottish champions makes us British representatives.
Even last night when the English ladies played their semi final tie you can direct me to one reference to Britain ,or British ,at any time when an English club has been in competition you can show us where the word Britain was ever mentioned.
When has an English club ,or national team accredited Britain for anything?
Rightly they are proud English teams representing their nation of birth and promoting England
They have no identify problems unlike Rangers ,or Celtic.
The entire Irish /British thing is an embarrassment .
We are 100% Scottish indeed MW is our first ever English manager.
I fail to understand why any fan would purport to be anything but a supporter of Scotland's greatest team .
I have no desire to share Ranger's glory past or in the future to a false conscript of Britain . or British.
My passport also makes reference to European, while I acknowledge in LAW only I am both British and European,myself and my club are 100% Scottish.

02 Jul 2015 20:07:23
Actually Scotty when I said "Well said Scotty I can't be arsed with similar ties at my club" which was my only contribution to this thread I was meaning as a Celtic fan I would much sooner we were seen as a Scottish Club than Irish, in the same way you would much sooner see Rangers as a Scottish club than a British one. Maybe the clue was in "Well said Scotty." In the part of Scotland I come from that tends to mean you concur with the person but maybe in my advanced delusion well said means I totally disagree.

02 Jul 2015 20:36:13
Gaz contrary to belief not ever Rangers fan is a narrow minded knuckle dragging bigot.
indeed the vast majority I would suggest are as fed up as me at the idiots living in the 17th ,never mind the 18th or 20th century nonsensical world.
The vast majority are genuine football fans and are as aghast at the behaviour of the many non football lovers that have attached themselves to our club over generations.
We need to face up to these people that do our club more harm than good and have given us such a terrible reputation wherever we have gone.

02 Jul 2015 21:09:58
I think you're getting confused Scotty, most of our fans class is as British but very few are bigots, the minority give the club a bad name but that is down to media coverage and one sided reporting.
At the end of the day the fans are the club, and we will see next season which flag is flown more the Union flag or the Scotland flag, the fans will decide.

02 Jul 2015 21:16:52
Yet again I will say "Well said Scotty" I'm hoping this will not be responded to with further claims of delusion. :)