Rangers Banter Archive July 28 2011

 

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28 Jul 2011 23:29:54
verhoek will be allowed to talk to rangers on his return from cyprus if gers increase there offer ? (better hurry up) , den hagg got beat 3.0 in cyprus with the return leg next week after that game verhoek will leave, alot of other team scouts were watching him tonite so ally if you want him tell whyte to put his money down instead of his mouth ?

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28 Jul 2011 23:06:35
Cheers Ed....Miko

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28 Jul 2011 23:02:10
I'll try this again, the following post was what I was referring to.....Miko

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27 Jul 2011 21:51:37
Ed mate, astonished celtic fan here, u have clowns on here claiming rangers are the only Scottish team to have played in the champs league in the last decade. You need to sort that son. Unbelievable.

Drew {Ed047's Note - son? Get tae yer bed Drew. I can confirm Celtic have played in the CL during the last decade more than once
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Some donk said that the G@rs were the only scottish representative in the CL in the last 10 years, so i posted our European record in the last 10 years, highlighting 2 CL group stage qualifications which the mighty G@rs have never achieved. We also got to a UEFA cup final which will be remembered in history as one of the best in recent years as not only did our glorious support grace this final in great numbers, we gave the following years CL winners a run for their money bt playing the Celts way - open and attractive football. In comparison, your lot disgraced themselves all the way to the final in Manchester by playing a brand of football that was an absolute disgrace. Then you rioted through the streets of Manchester after gettin pumped 3-0 - true to form

Celts over the last 10 years have had better results in Europe than you lot in comparison, seeing off teams such as Juve, Man Utd, Milan, Valencia, Benfica, Barca, Porto, Liverpool, Lyon, Villarreal, Ajax, etc.

All in all, we have been more successful in Europe in the last 10 years. Anyone disagree?.....Miko

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Haha u obviously didnt pay much attention to the champs in europe as u got the score wrong Ooo u have such an impressive european record hows ur domestic record lets say in the last 3 years?

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Rangers were in the last 16 ya donut

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Some "Donk"? Is big Odonkor sticking his two cents in already? lol. PUT ODONK ON IT

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Still tring to rewrite history I see, delusional since 1888.

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Rangers have never made it out of the group stages? You obviously don't follow our team as closely as you follow our rumours site. Did we not qualify from the same group as Inter Milan? Only being knocked out the next round on away goals by Villareal? Away back to google pal and get things right next time

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Never won it even drew a match away in the champions league in history also haha, and it was 2 - 0 in Manchester ya dud

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Haha, ya dobbers...read my post again and this time pay attention I never said you never qualified from the group stages. Unbelievable....Miko

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Oh aye, sorry. You got pumped 2-0. My mistake, lol. ....Miko

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ITS official Rangers are better in EUROPE than celtic from OFFICIAL UEFA RANKINGS
Rangers ranked 33
celtic ranked 54
facts figures and celtic dont mix since1BBB

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Also forgot to mention that they (porto) played their reserves against yous as they had a bigger cup final at the weekend FACT reported in all the papers quoting Jose Mourinho (SPELLING)

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28 Jul 2011 22:54:14
My info is that mccoist will sanction the sale of bougherra after malmo game next Wednesday regardless of result. Take it from me he has spat the dummy, no longer wants to play for us and is causing unrest within squad. Im a true bluenose folks I'm not at the wind up just mark my words..
Keep believing..

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Go home ya mank

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I ain't no mank so get it up ye...

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28 Jul 2011 22:52:25
Have it on good authority that Bresciano is in scotland this very moment not about to say he's signing for rangers but since we had previous interest in him at the same time as pedro mendes then it could be good

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He's 31 FFS how would this be good but Kenny Miller was too old, alot of very confused people on here

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28 Jul 2011 22:50:23
right bears our start to the season aye it's been gash but lets have faith Goodwillie is on his way, juhasz aye we had a new bid rejected but a bit of about £200,000 more should do it...am hopeful of verhoek cause he looks a quality addition...the german on trial odonkor could be a bargian WATP and Ally will not let us down...4 in a row

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28 Jul 2011 22:48:36
Cuellar saying on Twitter he hopes to be helping Villa get points in September. Doesnt sound like someone who has any intention of leaving. I'm a Gers fan by the way... before i start getting called "Timmy" etc..

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Heard it Timothy

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You could always go and check his Twitter page... Not as if i was trying to hit people with the "I've heard" or "I know Cuellar's pet snake and he said....." etc etc

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28 Jul 2011 22:45:47
the way ahead is wer boys ness (fine player) hutton good as well , fleck (needs tae prove it ) bendicksin looks ok add a rite good signen , a mean spend most eh wer cash on a different class player , sombody that frightens any team we play because that takes the heat off the rest of the side , a mean c'mon we as a club hav enticed some of the biggest players on the planet before y not agen kos the players weer lookin at are no better than some eh youngsters weev got push the boat oot an buy some rite class and bleed the boys , weel get good press for it and itl'l take the heat aff ally thats just ma thinken watp

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Walter did it last season and Jela was injured for half of it I agree he's top class but if we did that again we wouldn't win anything this time if that player got a long term injury. The young boys are good but look what happened to Glexk when he got too much too soon Does anyone think Fleck is fighting a losing battle with McCoist? Remember Walter sent him home from a tour or something cos he told Ally to f*** off It was a year or two ago but Ally told him to help collect the cones or something after training an Fleck gave it the big I am

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Look what happened to Fleck even

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Ano guys good points but a just think a rite top player could be the difference along wi playin wer top players in the rite positions eg davis, an some eh the youth (anyhow we wood prob playim oot position , an he would get injured ) but it wood get the fans goin agen , kos weer turnin already (me tae oan tues admittedly) and gee wer squade a boot up the arse , kos it looks like they need a lift (fuk knows why theyr the champs ) its fukin strange they way weev started

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28 Jul 2011 22:42:54
forget about giving odonkor a trail get him signed the more players we can get the beteer and ones with international experience even better. lets not get caught out this year with lack oof players would rather have to many players than not enought. odonkor at least will be able to pass any defender with his pace where ortiz is quick but dosent always get an extra yard on the defender, and greg wylde just lacks the delivery, so odonkor has the pace and the final delivery.
odonkor to start on saturday against st johnston

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All I'll say is remember Daniel Prodan?

Odonkor could be one major gamble

Baybear

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28 Jul 2011 22:36:50
Ed047 just been on UEFA website for coefficient figures2011/ 2012 going back 5 years
Rangers -22.0500, 0.3750, 6.5332, 12.720, 1.5750, Total Points 43.252 Position 42 (not 33)
Celtic-
12.050, 7.3750, 5.332, 2.220, 1.5750, total points
28.753 Position 57

So Rangers over LAST 5 years have better coefficient now look at this scenario as it is over 5 years rangers drop points 22.050
Celtic drop points 12.050

If Celtic do better in europe than Ranger THIS year which is a distinct possiblity Celtic will have a BETTER COEFICIENT from here on in. Fair Minded Tim

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So Rangers are dropping an average of 4500 pts a year Celtic 2410 a diffrence of 2090pts the overall difference is roughly 15000 at the present rate it will take you 7 seasons to catch up with Rangers could you ask lemon to try a bit harder we are struggling enough without having to carry you lot not a year as previously stated take it you were using the famous Saville calculator and you forgot to mention i had celtic at 54 your that bad your dropping points without playing and am quite sure a wouldn't have bumped you up 3 places just for the fun of it

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Well that mest have changed today because they were 33 when a checked it does say updated after every game take it they meant round

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28 Jul 2011 22:36:32
Peter houstan

He doesn't want us to get goody because it would be another rangers player in the Scotland team how many would that be ?

Watp

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28 Jul 2011 22:07:34
The following post was what I was referring to.....Miko

Ref:
27 Jul 2011 21:51:37
Ed mate, astonished celtic fan here, u have clowns on here claiming rangers are the only Scottish team to have played in the champs league in the last decade. You need to sort that son. Unbelievable.

Drew {Ed047's Note - son? Get tae yer bed Drew. I can confirm Celtic have played in the CL during the last decade more than once

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Why are Celtic fans worrying about posts on a rangers banter site. Ok we agree, your the undisputed runners up, enjoy it lads just remain in our shadow and live of the gets coefficient figures.if carlsberg did runners up they would still be second best to you lot. Watp

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28 Jul 2011 22:02:59
Obviously the manager wants a
strong quick defence with good
height and excellent ariel ability
seems to me juhasz and goian fit
this bill and if we can aquire bartley
he fits that criteria as well as for full
backs lee wallaces best years are to
come -a right back may be staring
us in the face..odonkor? hes fast
would overlap well has good ability
on the ball..who knows..midfeild, I
like ortiz davis bedoya seems mobile
and has an eye for a goal and verhoek
seems to have flair and speed jelavic
and naismith very good players with
lafferty back sorted Id keep hutton
ness wylde but to be honest the rest
will have to go..might keep one or
two but fire the rest out of the door.

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28 Jul 2011 22:00:16
Hi fellow gers fans,

Lets give Ally a chance, the past two games
we've been creating chances.The goals will come.
I agree with the the post about odonkor, i watched
the videos on you tube, if this guy can stay fit i
reckon he would be a fantastic player for us. Come on lets get behind the team instead of slating them. Sometimes we can be too harse, yes we expect he best as gers fans but it takes time especially when its a new owner and manager. Its a new era, lets hump malmo next week

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28 Jul 2011 21:56:36
Edu is as rank as my grandads feet. Agreed?

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A blind elephant with 3 legs would have a better first touch than Edu {Ed046's Note - haha

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28 Jul 2011 22:32:45
Everybody says goodwillie go down south get your life sorted out I don't think so he's a young lad in a big pond down there could get worse, where ever he plays might not get a game . Plus the way the English look at it just another scot but he comes to ibrox n scores goals he be legend ....

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28 Jul 2011 22:26:10
I'm a rangers fan have been all my life n my son is aswell season ticket holders i was at tge gym in Dundee tonight where a met sone of the utd players that go there as it is what they use at winter I asked them about goodwillie and one of them said he's the best striker at scoring goals who is actualy scotish, they then went and explained that he's heading south more likely as better wages n games ..

But one did say now that Kenny miller not coming back it would make sense if he went to the Gers

Mixed story's or what

Am no making this up bears just telling you what they told me.

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28 Jul 2011 22:24:46
Den Haag got pumped 3-0 by nicosia tonight in Europa league so fingers crossed verhoek will sign soon

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28 Jul 2011 21:31:38
Just seen that Rangers have taken David Odonkor on trial. He's been plagued with Knee trouble over the last 3 or 4 seasons so were bound to sign him.
Personally I think we'd be better off using any money we'd spend on his wages making sure Cuellar comes back then we could punt bougherra off to qatar and stop the suicidal runs from the back.

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28 Jul 2011 21:23:12
Heard a rumour that Miko No-Life was seen on a Runners-Up page?...can anyone confirm or deny this?...I myself doubt it because he is so concerned with the goings on at the home of the champions....2nd best again Miko...4IAR.....

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I can confirm this lol

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28 Jul 2011 21:19:40
just seen a video montage of david odonkor on you tube if he stsya injury free should be good signing rapid pace good defensive breaks up play cracking outball take a chance on him ally

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Agree....i think we should take a chance, even a 6 month deal, ....can't go wrong in the SPL with that pace

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50 games in 5 years but had a long time out due to infection after operation dont know about skill but teams would be mad to leave any space in behind

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Hes defo worth the risk

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28 Jul 2011 20:58:49
Just to prove a point to Miko that Celtic have been living on the back of Rangers co-efficient Rangers are ranked 33 in the co-efficient table Celtic are ranked 54

source UEFA.com rankings are based on the last 5 years competitions so MIKO not like you but yet again you are second should be used to that by now ED please post to shut him up {Ed047's Note - he knows. I've already stated it's 5 years. I should also mention if you're reading this Miko, you provided us earlier with that wonderful record in 10 years. You mentioned 2008, the year we reached the UEFA final. Surely that does wonders for the coefficient, unlike 2010, being ko'd twice in Europe before end of August.

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Haha, exactly. Your behaviour leaves a lot to be desired, both in the UK and Europe alike. Some donk was on this forum claiming that Ra@ngers was the only representative from Scotland to play in CL in the last decade. I listed Celts Euro record in last 10 years, highlighting 2 qualifications from the group stages, something your club has NEVER achieved. We've also reached the final of UEFA cup in 2003, playing football the Celtic way and actually gave the following years CL winners a run for their money in one of the most celebrated finals in recent years List Rangers' achievements side by side and you'll ALL find we've beaten sides you can only dream of beating......Juve, Milan, Porto, Benfica, Valencia, Barcelona, etc.

So, until you can boast such a record and a fanbase that's welcomed worldwide, stop bumpin yer gums and gies peace

Please post this Ed to shut these, er....people up. You probs won't, but hey, I wouldn't expect anything less.

Cheers peeps.....Miko

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Miko u nobber Don't kid urself about septic fans being angels when abroad. When u get a chance check YouTube out and you will see just how the giro bhoys ain't as sweet and innocent as you may think.... And that my friend is a FACT

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28 Jul 2011 20:57:23
No way shud we giv Odonker a contract, he's had so many problems with his knees and he's only played 50 odd games in five yrs.

N I don't know wot videos of him all uz clowns r watchin on you tube but from what I seen, aye he's fast as f*** n decent in the tackle bt his delivery is shockin n his shootin is worst. Plus I doubt after so many serious knee injuries he will b anywhere near as fast as he was

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The guy is lightning fast, is only 27, and has 16 caps for Germany.....must be worth a short term deal to january, + the medical staff will assess him, as will the fitness guys, if he is 90% fit, i'd have him

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Try typing in odonkor and not donky then... u fool, if that guy didnt have injuiry problems hed be way out of our league.

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Listen to you hes (odonkor)here to get a chance pay as you play deal and if he holds up
give him yearly contracts..and stop being a pri*k.

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Aye ok then, let's waste sum Of the very little money we obviously had on a guy thts spent the majority of the last five yes injured. Prodan ring any bells.

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28 Jul 2011 20:40:10
cualler as said he is not coming to rangers......look on his twitter page.....ED {Ed047's Note - can't find Cualler's twitter mate. Had a wee look at King Carlos Cuellar's twitter as I do a lot recently. It's good, innit?

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Its in spanish but very hard to translate

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28 Jul 2011 20:31:49
haha rankers nae body in the right mind wants tae sign fur ye The treble coming home tae parkhead {Ed047's Note - Coming home? Ur lot have won it 3 times. We've won it 7. Where do you think its home really is?

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We've won it 54 times to your 40 0dds young man

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Heard a rumour that Miko has a life away from Rangers pages....is this true Ed? {Ed046's Note - haha, i liked that one.

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28 Jul 2011 20:29:28
Is anyone else getting embarrassed with the way we are conducting our buisiness in the transfer market?...every single player we go for we bid low and stay low..why waste time on half hearted bids?..is this the doing of Gordon Smith?...getting seriously concerned that Whyte does not trust Ally and is unwilling to release significant funds incase it backfires...p*ssed off

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28 Jul 2011 20:49:56
to all my fellow bears lets all stop panicking about players that will be signed or not signed and lets all get behind the greatest goalscorer that our club has ever had in super ally we trust ...blue bells r always blue.....butch the bear

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Well said we are the people

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28 Jul 2011 20:48:45
Omonia Nicosia 3 - 0 ADO Den Haag

This may improve the chances of Verhoek landing in Ibrox, I know Rangers never done themselves any favours against Malmo but European football is looking even more unlikely with ADO.

Eden

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28 Jul 2011 20:46:09
do u know what i DONT love about this page, i posted 4 days ago that anderlecht were looking for 4M for juhasz, i even copied a link with a qoute for the manager stating yet i got more negative comments and more ppl didnt believ it, now you all post (prob same folk that didnt agree) once its in a UK based tabloid, .

irratating isnt the word

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Maybe because it isn't Try Irritating

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28 Jul 2011 20:39:51
Wesley verhoek will sign for rangers after his team were beaten 3-0 in the Europa league tonight.

We will put in a final offer for goodwillie after bougherra has been sold for 3m after the malmo game.

Carlos cuellar deal is still very much alive. we are in no rush to sign him as he is injured.

roland juhasz is a doubt as he has a price tag of 4m.

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28 Jul 2011 20:08:51
Why was there no mention in the press about the Hearts GK having a coin thrown at him at Ibrox on Saturday. Everyone is on here going on about songs etc but this is a deplorable action especially when Rangers are under so much scrutiny at home and abroad over their fans conduct

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Get a life

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It was chewing gum actually ;-)

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Blah blah blah timothy...take it the bins have been emptied?

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Well why waqs there no mention of the hearts fans singing billy boys at ibrox on saturday? no doubt tryin tae get us in the s**te

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What happened to hugh dallas at an old firm game

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28 Jul 2011 19:40:43
Rangers have taken German winger David Odonkor on trial following the expiration of his Real Betis deal.

The 27-year-old is a free agent and manager Ally McCoist will spend the coming days assessing his ability and fitness.

Odonkor came to prominence at Borussia Dortmund and his blistering form led to a 6m (£5.25m) Betis switch in 2006.

He broke into the Germany national team in 2006 and he made four substitute appearances in the World Cup finals, a tournament the country hosted.

However, a series of knee injuries hampered his availability to feature for Betis in recent campaigns, culminating in his release during the close season.

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Just watched youtube vide of odonkor. He looks scarily fast, even if he's only half as fast as he was will still rum the spl teams into the ground. He's good at tackling, good crosser of the ball and looks composed when finishing. So all in all looks a cracking player if he's back to full fitness. Would be a good combo with him on the right and Wylde on the left. No defence could cope with that pace.

Keep believing in super ally he'll come good, nobody thought big eck would come good but look what he won for us with not alot of money.

Sir Walter to be officially knighted at new year.

Haw

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52 games in 5 years, right up our street

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Not another prodan

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28 Jul 2011 19:27:30
i quite like this website as its very entertaining but i can't take anything seriously you guys crack me up

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28 Jul 2011 19:08:55
i have no rumours but questions, why does ally seem to be obsessed with trying to get wingers. maybe should get some cover at the back first and foremost as we have a 41 year old man trying to cover for another center back who seems to want to go play at a "higher level" in oil rich country. Ed, whats your thoughts {Ed046's Note - Ally is still waiting on Carlos Cuellar's answer and apparently we will be getting Bartley back on loan

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Maybe because ally would like to see us attack teams , instead of hitting on the counter in europe , its good to see ally still has the instinct to go for goals

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Weir mcculloch edu papac broadfoot bartley (new signing) and chasing another defender that can play CB how many defenders you wanting WALTER??

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I'd say cuellar deal is dead now

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Broadfoot cant defend

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Broadfoot can defend lol what his peg in the changing room, pitty he cant play fball

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Our back four couldn't keep weans out a close Lets hope the big Romanian is a player.

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28 Jul 2011 18:43:51
David Odonkor could be some player if he regains full fitness.

Type 'David Odonkor' into youtube and watch the clips of him.

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28 Jul 2011 18:26:37
£20m? Aye right more like 20p On a serious note ladies, I know you lot think I'm a banger but I actually wanted the G@rs to win the other night for the sake of the co-efficient, and that's without a word of a lie.

However when they were beaten by a solitary Larsson goal, I made the best of an embarrassing and sad situation by laughing my ass off. Still think they can recover the tie though, so keep the faith

I see some of you believe McCoist's not the man, I think that's absolutely correct and those of you who disagree should remain loyal to what's best for your club McCoist won't be there long and I believe Billy Davis will be manager next year (January). This isn't a wind-up, it's what I genuinely believe as an outsider's outlook. Hail Hail

Miko

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Miko just askin wot will u think of ur own team if u dont win the league? and we make it 4iar r u going to blame lennon, referees, sfa, or just god???

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Miko, what did you think of your new signing Awannamamama thought he had a shaky start but came into a game when Wolves brought their Fan competition winners on. And can you ask Greetin Face to sign that goalie and give us a chance and also give Scottish football fans a much needed source of amusment

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You're slagging me about SIGNINGS? Haha, priceless You'll need to do better than that, none of last nights starting 11 played last Saturday ya donk

Oh, eh....we will win the league, no probs....Miko

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Yet again another year you will be scraping into Europe on the back of our co-efficient miko when you cant beat a team full of FAN competition winners 5 a believe plug and his dug said it was on the celtic channel you shouldnt be allowed in Europe to embarrass our wee nation

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Did commens no play ya dobbr were you to busy on here lying abiout your co efficient to watch the game

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28 Jul 2011 18:17:49
Get the feeling whyte is just going to keep goin in with bids adding few hundred thousand extra each time till it gets accepted or some other team beats us to the player, so deals could take a time which we dont have with the current squad

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28 Jul 2011 18:12:07
Rangers will not get anderlecht centre back.

IN:

Verhoek £2m
Murphy £1.4m
Odonkor free
Bartley loan
Eremenko £300k
Davidson £400k
(STRIKER)
£4.1m

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Ermenko is afree agent ya nugget
shut it mug

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28 Jul 2011 18:03:12
Anderlecht reject second bid for Roland Juhasz this is taking to long to get players in now we badly need over penny pinching we are talkin few hundred thousand no millions and that would be difference on gettin these players so whats happening especially with the chance or a possible 10-15 million from champions league

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28 Jul 2011 17:53:48
THE WEE GERMAN TRIALIST, PUT HIS NAME INTO YOUTUBE.

HE IS LIGHTNING
SO QUICK
MOST OF THE VIDS ON YOUTUBE CALL HIM THE FASTET PLAYER IN THE WORLD

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Lost it all due to injuries and is not that good technically

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28 Jul 2011 17:54:23
A very close source to me suggests that there is some amount of absolute keak on this website .. and reports suggest to me that people send in comments have no life and have to make up an uncle, friend or kebab shop owner as proof of bulls**t .. sort it out and stop posting complete pish {Ed025's Note - its a rumour site mate..

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A very close source suggests to me you're a bawbag

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Perhaps if you come out of your toilet with your web book put your tool away and tried to remember some of what you were taught at school people might not think bad things about you.

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28 Jul 2011 17:19:10
Rangers possible signings

odonkor-free
goodwillie-2m
juhasz-2.5m
bartley-loan
verhoek-2m

cuellar will not happen as he will be heading back to spain. If rangers dont sign goodwillie expect another striker to come in that hasn't been mentioned. Odonkor looks good and will be a very good player if he stays injury free. juhasz will be completed by next week. Bartley loan depending who arsenal bring in themselves. Verhoek happy to move to rangers it's whether rangers value him at the price given bearing in mind he has only a year left on his contract.not all these players will sign as Ally and Mr.Whyte are still waiting on 25 man squads to be released so they can swoop in for loan deals. various different sources.
EKger

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28 Jul 2011 16:59:51
Glasgow rangers Poem

what the glasgow rangers need
is players thats going to help us succeed
ally pull you finger out
and show the boys what you talking about
no surrender davie weir
we want to win champions league next year {Ed047's Note - quality, Rabbie Burns would be sh*****g himself if he were here

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Don't quit the day job m8 :)

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Did you need to drag the old No Surrender BS into it, grow up and realise it is 2011.

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Thats his name pal.... No Surrender Davie Weir

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His names aul papa weir ya muppet where does the no surrender fit in to that?

Mikey

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His full name is No Surrender Daviewith3championshipmedalsinhisbackpocketandstillbetterthananyofthemhankysdefenders weir

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28 Jul 2011 16:47:53
NOW THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT YOU DONT HAVE TO AGREE BUT WHAT AM GOING TO SAY HURTS ME AS MUCH AS EVERY OTHER RANGERS FAN BUT McCOIST MUST GO NOW HE IS NOT UP TAE THE JOB YET. MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE TRY MANAGING A SMALLER TEAM FIRST AND EXPERINCED WHAT ITS LIKE TO MANAGE CAUSE WHEN YOU R 1-NIL DOWN YOU HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES ITS AM MUST I DONT UNDERSTAND HIS THINKING OF GIVING HEALY A NEW CONTRACT THEN NOT PLAY HIM CAUSE HOPEFLLY THIS YEAR HE IS FIT N HE ALWAYS A GOOD SHOUT FUR A GOAL AND ANY MANAGER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND MUST SEE THAT EDU N McCULLOCH CANT PLAY FOOTBALL
SO LIKE I SAY McCOIST IS ONLY GOING TO DAMAGED HIS REP AT OUR SPIRTUAL HOME
PS THE MANS A LEGEND FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE AT THE BEARS BUT I THINK HE HAS BITEN TO MUCH THIS TIME I HOPE AM WRONG BUT DO SEE IT
WATP 4 IN A ROW WITH OR WITHOUT ALLY {Ed047's Note - 2 points, first press the CAPS LOCK key and second give the man a reasonable chance. He's not the first manager to stumble over the start line. Jock Wallace and Graeme Souness to name a couple usually started each season with poor results and still won us the title. Souness lost 2 of the first 3 league games in his first season, we were 9 points behind them at Xmas and we still won the league. Support him, don't shoot him

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To who posted this.... G.Y.T.F.....ally is here to stay get off his back....that goes to all of you...stop the booing

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Seems to be another reprobate from the east , try going to nightschool as connolly would say..you might be stupid but saveable.you wont find out on here now fwpo.

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28 Jul 2011 16:47:26
David Odonkor having trials at rangers after being released from real betis, injury prone, but is he worth a contract?

source - BBC Teletxt

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28 Jul 2011 16:38:39
2 mill for Goodwillie. Dundee United's P. Thompson is a clever guy. He knows that we will eventually stump up the cash for Goodwillie. Look at the mess we made on trying to play it smart with Sebo We strung that one along for ages and ended up paying more than his original price because they put him on the advert for their new strip If we want him pay the 2 mill and get it done.

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28 Jul 2011 16:33:45
The BBC are posting a story about David Goodwillie "wanting a move to England" - if you read the story, it is actually the Dundee Utd manager who 'thinks he should move to England' - no word from Goodwillie, although Houston confirms the mythical Celtic bid as "nonsense". I still think Goodwillie will be a Ger by the end of the week - watch this space. {Ed047's Note - I have read the BBC story more than once and I KNOW what is being said. I'll say again, it is slightly different from what STV Sport are saying, I quote 'When asked if Goodwillie had indicated directly to his boss it was his preference to go down south, Houston replied: "In a conversation between me and him, yes it is." ' That is all I was trying to point out

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28 Jul 2011 16:28:11
Odonkor is currently on trial, personally I don't think he's good enough and he's constantly injured but that's just me.

OUTS
Madjid Bougherra- to the Qatari team for £3m
James Beattie- to Notts Forest for £500k (better than nothing)
Kirk Broadfoot- loan as first team opportunities will be limited
Maurice Edu- Blackburn £2m

INS
Roland Juhasz- Anderlecht £1.7m
Wesley Verhoek- Den Haag £2m
David Goodwillie- Dundee Utd £1.8m
Alejandro Bedoya- Orebro £500k max

Carlos Cuellar is biding his time as he is injured and on a higher wage at Villa, even if Juhasz is the next centre half to be signed it is important to remember Cuellar can play right back and would be healthy competition for the inconsistent Whittaker.

Talks are ongoing about Murray Davidson of St Johnstone.

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Odonkor is a real worry. He never plays has had 3 major ops was playing in the Spanish 2nd div and his chairman made him sign a contract termination claus if he did not report to training... Not what we need.

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Can understand what your saying but one of his injury's was down to an infection after operation this can take a lot of time to clear up

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28 Jul 2011 16:19:55
just looked at david odonkor on youtube looks like he would rip the spl apart and he's just what we need a natural right winger hope we sign him and he kips fit

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I can see him playing a couple of games and then being injured for the rest of the season.

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Dunno mate believe it or not iv seen this guy quite a bit in the past. breaking tho in germany big things were expected of him.

The guy is fast, like seriously fast. (at least before his injuries) the guy was in line to be a pro sprinter im sure. His end product aint the best tbh but i when i say he used to be fast im talking about at the time he was prob the fastest (or one of them) player in the world

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28 Jul 2011 16:14:59
Goodwillie to Celts, he'll sign tomorrow. £2.2m fee agreed. He wants to join the dominant side of the Old Firm and he thinks that club will be Celtic, going forward (apparently)....Miko {Ed047's Note - Miko, you say I never post your stuff, well here you go (but it's going in banter). No doubt you'll get the response you crave for this nonsense. (I don't mean Goodwillie signing, I mean you lot being dominant)

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Mikos a bunnet JMGERS {Ed047's Note - and so it begins.........

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Miko, yer a rite joker, everythin u put on here gies me sair sides ah laugh that much, dis Lemmon an Liewell pay you?? When was the last time septic were the dominant side of the old firm? When a pint was less than £3, When petrol was under 90p a Litre, When 20 fags cost you £2 Not for the past 4 years now pal- Infact they NEVER WERE Wont be happening any time soon either , so away back to your own Runners-up, 2nd best, Paranoia, septic page and STAY THERE

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Miko yer a ar**wipe. Don't worry not log till Friday we all no what you get for your dinner on a Friday. (FISH) research said it's good for the brain. You should get your mammy to get you two portions. Lol

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# # tumbleweed

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It's gospel Ed, seriously pal. I heard from a reliable source. Listen mate, at least the stuff I post on here is clean, your mob are over calling our Ed a f*d, and he still posts these comments. Why? I don't know.....Miko {Ed047's Note - lol cheers mate. I'll pass it on to him, but I know he reads the Rangers posts regularly. Anyway, we have guidelines we must adhere to - what we can and cannot post and all I do is try to be a good boy. Your post lost all credibility when you said your lot were the more dominant side of the OF

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Sounds like a notion from the 2nd rate half of the old firm, celtic dominant haha pull the other 1

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Dominant side The world is against you all. You must be happy with the Gers winning the last 3 SPLs if you consider your team to be Dominant. I will put up with Celtic being dominant then just as long as we keep winning what matters. What a twit.

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I call on all Bears not to rise to this Dhimwitted plug's posts, a total bellend. I am only entering it to highlight the pain in the @rse.........back to the beggars board never to return

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Anyway, what idiot would pay 2.2 for him if they are asking for 2? 0.2 extra for luck, is that not what the beggers say?

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We can afford £2.2m, that's why, lol. The R@angers are just playing in the transfer market with derisory offers, Malmo humped the R@ngers because McCoist's way out of his depth. Pretty much the same team which won the SPL last season....In Ally We Trust, lol.

Celtic have been the main contributers to the co-efficient over the last decade and that's fact When it comes to European football we are miles ahead of the G@rs, even the best footballer in the world said as much. Remember anti-football, lol.

You have won the last 3 SPL's, however we won the previous 3....like everything else, we did it first We're on the up and you lot know it, you're absolutely brickin it. Once Goodwillie signs for us, that'll be clarification that we are now DOMINANT. In fact once we sign him he won't even get a game, it'll be just to get it up you lot, lol.

Ed, I know you're a good bhoy Read it and weep ladies, ah the banter....Miko

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Miko does it again 9 "fish on his hook" and counting Cant wait till timalloy get back and the two of them tear into your mobILWT

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As i have posted Rangers have been that dominant over the past 25 years we the greatest support in the world should be demanding that UEFA put us in a LEAGUE were there is at least some semblance of a viable competitor much like Swansea/Cardiff and they had 2 teams in their league so how can UEFA refuse when Rangers have no viable competition in our league

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28 Jul 2011 16:14:00
From what I've heard this boy Odonkor ( 3 seasons ago) is rapid, former International. Could be a real coup.

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Hope they dont commit to anything over a one year deal for this guy tho with option of more because he needs to prove a) still has the pace and ability and b) can stay injury free.

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He may be rapid but that is no good if he does not play. Av games per year over the last 6 years = 10 per season

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28 Jul 2011 16:11:26
listen the loans arnt against rangers its a holding company not illegal tam

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28 Jul 2011 16:10:36
Is it true that kyle bartley is on his way to the migty rangers, please could this be confirmed.......WATP {Ed047's Note - Eurosport transfer talk state he's coming but I'd prefer to wait for official confirmation on that one

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28 Jul 2011 15:58:27
can not understand what is going on.we need players we have the money 15m......or have we .me starting to think not what you think ED {Ed047's Note - we have money, but we need to be sensible. Between fees & wages we need to get value for money.

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28 Jul 2011 15:33:54
Instead of buying a creative midfielder have we not got a young one already? Fleck. Give the boy a chance to shine in his favoured position and am sure he will find his form and be the answer to our problems.

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I want to see Ness get an extended run alongside Davis, this boy has a great future at Rangers. Wee fleck needs to show more when he gets a chance, too many avareage outings, but still young enough to improve. For me Ness is the better player. Rangers'til I die

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Had high hopes for fleck mate expected more from him probably end up at dundee or something

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Would be best to get Fleck out to St Mirren or some smaller team to get some game time and loose some weight... He is not going to get anywhere in the position he is in right now. He is not good enough either to play for us.

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28 Jul 2011 15:53:25
wouldnt it be better for ally to be on the touchline rather than sitting in the stand, does ally think he is the new walter?walter was a leader but ally is a follower always has been always will berangers need a strong leader but watching ally looking totally inept, lost, puzzled, subdued the other night made me think is he strong enough to be rangers manager?his face had all the hallmarks of mowbray the night they got pumped by st mirren.its time you stopped hiding in walters shadow and be your own man, remember you are the manager. {Ed047's Note - I think Ally sits in the stand because he chooses to, not because his mentor did. You can see things from the higher vantage point you don't always get at eye-level

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Wits that helmet mowbray got tae dae us ya tit stop comparing us with they manky c*nts JMGERS

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Agree to a certain degree ed, however as soon as things arent working hes down like a shot then stands on the touchline arms folded with a clueless look, his full demeanor has changed, this is a guy who had a bust up with lennon not long back, looking dignified in a new suit he looks like a manager but sadly hes never a manager in my honest opinion, hes only 2 games in and he looked as if he had the weight of the world on his shoulders against malmo. {Ed047's Note - at least give him a chance. He's had 180 mins of competitive football as a manager. It won't help him much if everyone compares his every move, every decision to Walter Smiths.

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28 Jul 2011 15:52:31
If both of these bids go through I thnk its a cracking piece of business. A quality centre half with championship wnning experience and a talented young winger, both for the price we paid for Jelavic. Now if we could put in a bid for Murphy rather than Goodwillie, there's a cracking team with a bit of depth as well:
GK: McGregor
RB: Whittaker
CB: Goian/Bougy
CB: Juhasz/Weir
LB: Papac/Wallace
RW: Naismith
CM: Ness/McCulloch
CM: Davis
LW: Verohek/Wylde
FWD: Murphy/ Lafferty
CF: Jelavic

Lovely stuff

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This, of course, isn't including any loan deals after the 25 man squads are picked n the EPL, eg. Bartley, Weiss, etc.

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I am beginning to run in favour of Murphy now myself, Goodwillie hunt is turning into a Circus imo............ Test Motherwell' reolve with a bid, ed ? Rangers'til I die

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28 Jul 2011 15:47:05
I really hope the lack of signings before the Malmo game does not come back to bite us in the bum. There is a lack of real quality and pace in our squad, Jelavic excluded as I believe he is a terrific striker. I hope that the big man does not ask for a transfer if we get knocked out of the Champions league next week.

I think we have a 40/60 chance of progressing next week. I'm rating as this as we don't have a good record of overturning home defeats.

We should certainly go for it next week and field an attacking team as I reckon that the Malmo defence can be exposed, especially if we play Wylde (left mid) and Naismith (right mid) with Jelavic and Hemmings up front.

Davis in the centre with McCulloch sitting slightly behind him to protect the defence a bit.

BP

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Dont think big jellyfish would have any right demanding a transfer if you dont make the cl as he would be 1 of the players who failed to get you there n would have to take some responsibility

It may be the official line however when yous need to sell due to failure in europe and the taxman coming for whats his

Mikey {Ed047's Note - I'm sure you can give us plenty of advice on how to cope with surviving August without Euro football

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I have seen nothing to suggest we can turn the tie around, I want to be wrong, but we have been dreadful in the run up to the start of this season. It has been hard to watch such a poor effort from players who have just been given substantial pay increases. Whittaker has a lot of gound to make up, and we need someone in the middle to play alongside Davis, his talent deserves a high quality partner in there, 4 inarow

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If Jella is not getting the service then he will not be producing the results. From the games he has played with us the service has not been good at all, this includes the last season. He has created most of his goals on his own. If we can get better service to him he will be the top gs this year.

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Regarding my original post, I agree that we need someone to play alongside Davis in the midfield but cant sign anyone to play in the Malmo game as the deadline and wildcard has been used.

Regarding our chances they are 40/60 against. I believe Malmo are in the driving seat and it will take an outstanding performance from a team that have been misfiring at the start of the season to turn the tie around. Lets hope this is the case. Cheers BP

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28 Jul 2011 15:44:55
Just curious as to where the £2m went that so many of you told us was set aside for after goodwillies court case? Hmmm....

Maybe Whyte thot it would drag on n the rest of the money would've been accumulated through interest....or was he hoping he wouldve been found guilty....or maybe there just isnt any money?

Mikey {Ed047's Note - this 'nae money' nonsense is starting to bore me.

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28 Jul 2011 15:42:37
Does anyone know how much money James Beattie is on at Rangers because we need him out he looked like he had never played football before against Blackpool

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Around 20k

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He'll be a top earner 15-20k. waste of money

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28 Jul 2011 15:39:25
New 3rd top out on Thursday 4th Aug, only available at Ibrox Megastore or online.

Bazza Bear

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28 Jul 2011 15:21:38
Rite Whyte stop being tight fisted and get ur cash out NOW..........

Buy.....
Roland Juhasz: 2.5 million
Wesley Verhoek: 2 million
Goodwillie: 2 million
Murphy: 1 million

Sell....
Bougherra: 3 million
Beattie: 250,000
Edu:Freebie to any team mad enough..
Fleck: out on loan


Weir: please retire gracefully whilst at the top and Whittaker get a fooking grip of urself...

If this Happens then bring on 4 in a row...

SFA Mason

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Good shout mate, i'll go with that..

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I like the posting on Edu. Some idiots think teams will pay 2 mill for him.

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28 Jul 2011 14:59:53
GILARDINO IS A NO GO STRAIGHT AWAY, HE HAS COST ABOUT 30 MILLION + IN TOTAL TRANSFER FEES, THAT'S CRAZY TALK LET'S FACE IT DAVID GOODWILLIE IS AS GOOD AS WE CAN GET RIGHT NOW, BUT EVEN THEN WE SEEM RELUCTANT TO PAY THE ASKING PRICE, CONSIDERING WE ARE WILLING TO PAY 2M FOR CUELLAR AND 1.5M FOR WALLACE IT'S A WEE BIT EMBARRISING THAT WE CAN'T JUST STUMP UP THE CASH AND GET HIM IN QUICK. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG? BUT DID WE NOT GET CLOSE TO A MILLION FROM THE ADAM DEAL? ACCORDING TO CRAIG WHYTE WE HAD 5MILLION TO SPEND, AT LEAST. SO FROM GOIAN, WALLACE AND ORTIZ WE SHOULD HAVE ABOUT 3 LEFT. DAVIDSON 500K, GOODWILLIE 2MILLION, ERMENKO 300K AND BARTLEY LOAN THEREFORE SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. IF WE GET RID OF BOUGHERRA THEN THAT 3MILLION CAN GO ON THE BOY FROM DEN HAAG AND CUELLAR. SQUAD SORTED WHY THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE IS BEYOND ME, I REALLY HOPE ALLY GETS THE BACKING HE NEEDS AND DESERVES BUT I HAVE MY RESERVATIONS. HOPE I'M WRONG.

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Why did you feel the need to put your whole post in CAPS?

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Its on BBC 2 appartenly {Ed047's Note - what is?

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The capital letters make you seem dead angry well done .......WAN*ER JMGERS

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To the guy who asked 1st i wrote the post from my works computer and we always use caps, didn't realize it was on until i posted. to the last guy, wasn't intending to sound angry and to be honest if your wanting to come on and start abusing folk that write a relevant post because of a simple thing like using cap lock then that type of nedish behavior obviously makes you 1 of them

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28 Jul 2011 14:54:44
Does anyone know if the 2nd leg is on tv next wednesday? {Ed047's Note - Not sure but I think it's same again, Premier Channel, Sky

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Yes, same again....premier sports, early k.o.

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Cheers

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Why pay when you can get it for nowt...google chrome free footie app or first row. At least if the worst happens you dont feel bad for paying for it lol.

Think this game will be the game that kick starts our campaign...we'll go down 1 nil then end up winning 3-1. Come on the Gers

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28 Jul 2011 14:42:17
Not sure about anyone else but is anyone thinking that Ally might be thinking of the possibility of playing 3 centre backs and this is the reason he has targeted so many of them?

To me it looks like he could possibly be lining up a 3-5-2 formation at some point once he gets the players he is looking for (if he gets them). Look at the centre backs we have:

Weir, Goian, Broadfoot, Papac, Bougherra.
Trying to get Bartley, Cuellar and Juhasz.

I know papac is on the left at the moment but we have signed Wallace who could be a perfect wing back also.

Is it just me or does this make any sense to anyone else?

BigBear1873

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Loved it when Advocaat played that formation but he did have a better standard of player at his disposal , but it could work as McCulloch is defensive minded and Whittaker and Wallace both have pace . In my opinion we should be attacking teams in the SPL with attacking formations like that .

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I've always been a fan of this formation provided we have decent centre backs. This could defo be the way forward for this Gers team me thinks. Lets see what Ally does.

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Spot on lads, Still early days in the SPL, and new manager, not wanting to rush to change winning habits/systems of players used to playing a certain way. Coisty must surely be lookin to put his more attack-minded principles in place, just dosnt have the people in place YET So should we get the guys we are after it might look like:
Shagger
Juhasz Gorin Papac
Whittaker Wallace
Verhoek Davis Bartley
Goodwillie/ Naisy Jelavic

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28 Jul 2011 14:04:46
This is the way I see it and I am a season ticket holder at Ibrox. I know Bougherra hasnt played aswell as we have known him to in the past. If Craig Whyte is giving Ally the transfer budget he promised why cant we keep Bougherra and also sign Goodwillie and Verhoek.

The back of the Record today says McCoist is willing to lose Bougherra and use the 3 million towards the 2 signings. If Whyte has and is given as much money as he says he is surely we can afford to buy the 2 players regardless of whether we get Bougherra sold or lose him for nothing. Ed what is your thoughts on this do I agree or am I wide of the mark? {Ed019's Note - Ithink the fact remains that Whyte has spent a lot of money already on contract extensions and signings. If we do manage to get Cuellar, Juhasz, Goodwillie and Vorhoek then I would be more than pleased with the Chairmans input and dont see why we should reject a 3 million bid for Bougherra. Dont think he wants to be here. But I dont think we are using Bougherra's transfer fee to pay for anyone because we have already made bids for the above four players.

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28 Jul 2011 13:47:28
Weir + Goian + Juhasz + Bartley - Bougherra = No Cuellar ....i'm afraid .. I cant see us with 5 centre half's ....when other areas need looked at

If we've got 4 signings to come ..

I'd personally go for ..Juhasz, Verhoek, Goodwillie & Bedoya in early....

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Disagree, we need cover for centre half, think Bartley would add something to midfield, and in the league could see McCoist playing 3 Centre Halfs and Two Wing Backs (Whittaker and Wallace), with even more reason for a mobile anchor man in midfield who can cover centre back (or for an attacking wing back).

With all these guys good in the air it would definitely give use a more potent threat at set pieces, and the team would be solid defending them.

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Bougherra is FOR SALE ya dafty, he is leaving

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28 Jul 2011 13:43:12
Jamie Murphys a Rangers fan that surprised me, he's a great talent he would be just the natural talent we need on the left or coming upfront if needed. I've been wanting Goodwillie but if he wants to go to England to avoid further trouble then it's probably a sensible decision and as he's a Rangers fan aswell i'd wish him all the best but Murphy would cost £1million cheaper and is more versatile.

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100% agree mate, ive been screaming for weeks to get Murphy, massive gers fan and like you said, more versatile, he can play on either flank or through the middle or just of the front, pace to burn, and Billy Stark preferred him in every u21 game to Goodwillie who was on the bench. Also, Murphy is desperate to become a Ger....750,000 would secure..

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Kenny Dalgleish was a rangers fan, doesn't stop them switching sides

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No one mentioned he wouldn't switch sides timmy, it was just football opinion until you came on.....it's time to go home (to your own site of course)

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28 Jul 2011 13:39:21
I am hopeful of this evening times story being true, it could mean a complete re-shuffle which I think will result in Bougherra bid being accepeted if these bids are, however I do not think verhoak will be accepted. Roland Juhasz however may well be, and would seem like the partner to Goian and if rumours are true and Kyle Bartley returns to us withing next few days I think McCoist will be very happy as he can line up with:
shagger
whittaker goian juhasz papac

ortiz Bartley Naismith Wallace

Naismith Jelavic

And if we can sign another striker we could actually have a good bench as well:

alexander, lafferty(when fit), healy(unless we sign new striker), edu, mcculloch, weir, fleck and ness

Tell me you wouldnt be happy with that squad? Have to admit though if the Verhoaek rumours are true and he signs as well I feel we have a very good team, just hope we beat malmo next week. {Ed019's Note - does naismith have a twin who is better than davis? ha

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Ah i meant davis in the middle. Naisy cant quite play 2 positions yet although sometime i think he thinks hes good enough

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28 Jul 2011 13:29:54
can anyone think of why after paying 1.5m for lee Wallace that we wont pay 2m for a far better player in David Goodwillie? Honestly the way whyte is doing his business is just totally confusing to me anyone agree?

wellboy

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Agree with all the posts, and that big Hartson is a good guy, but guys, i wish no one any harm or bad health, but nothing wrong with the facts, and the facts are.....WATP {Ed019's Note - think theres a context in which football banter is perfectly acceptable. who doesnt enjoy a bit of banter in the pub or the stadium or the forums? but when its taken out of context and turned into a personal and abusive nature then it is totally unacceptable. especially in the situation involving hartson. we shouldnt be lsating a celtic player in this case, we should be wishing the man well.

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28 Jul 2011 13:13:36
I wish I could say with all honesty that this post has nothing to do with Rangers/Celtic but unfortunately it is.There are very twisted individuals out there who continue to spout their vile message of hate and claim to justify their behaviour by linking themselves to either Rangers or Celtic. I am of course talking about the story in todays Sun regarding the vile creatures on Twitter who have targeted John Hartson and a poor wee 11 yr old boy who is dying of cancer with messages mocking their plight whilst wishing death to them and their family members. I urge all Rangers/Celtic supporters and Twitter users to do all they can to help expose all these vile people. I am only putting this message on here as most of these people are signing of with things like WATP1690 and claiming to be Rangers supporters. It is possible that accounts have been hacked etc but regardless of this the people behind the messages need to be caught, exposed and punished. I cannot stress enough how appaled I am by these disgusting attacks on a brave wee boy and a brave man in John Hartson.
Once again, I urge all Rangers and Celtic supporters to challenge bullying/sectarian and hateful behaviour whenever they come across it and do everything possible to rid ourselves of this disgusting element within our clubs.

Baybear {Ed047's Note - vile, disgusting. hartson was the bane of my life when he wore the hoops but I, and I'm sure everyone here feels the same, am delighted at his recovery

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I felt so bad for not liking him when he wore the hoops shirt after i heard im glad that he is better now

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Totally agree ed 47 - was delighted that he recovered - totally ashamed to have somone associated with our great club - spread that kind of bile.

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John Harston is a gent, and was a great player, I was very glad to see him get well, one of the good guys in the game even if he was a Celtic player.

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Thanks for posting ED, just think it's important that this sort of thing is publicly denounced. Cheers for the feedback fellow bears. That's what we need more of, decent honest folk proud of our club with our club proud of us.

Simply the best

baybear

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I will always regard the big man as " the one that got away " he tortured us At the end of the day, " it's only a game Saint"................ Vile and disgustng

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If the storys true then obviously none of us would want scum like that associated with our club. I cant stand Celtic but i'd never wish that or that treatment on anyone.

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28 Jul 2011 13:06:45
I'd much prefer a midfield/playmaker and creative influence signing, yes goodwillie would be a good signing and a good return on an investment. You could stick rooney upfront with Jelavic just now and he wouldn't score.

We need a dynamo who can skip past a few tackles and create for our frontmen...

Come on bears get in some flair... WATP

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28 Jul 2011 12:53:01
Its quite predictable now everytime
a bit of news filters through about
Rangers a wee tim head pops up with
a this fee has increased or hes signedd for
d for someone else .
ally, s fell out with whyte or we are
having at least 4 other managers
coming in to take over septic want
to sign another rangers target it
goes on.. But you should know that
ally and whyte maybe do a bit of
talking but its perfect ..maybe we
dont know who we are really after
but you bam pots havent got a clue
and one wee bit advise to you
lovely septic fans..if lemon cant get
the flag to the pigsty this season
He, ll be on the dole with the rest of
the unwashed...think about it..
1000% pure fact ..better hang on
tae yer toilet rolls and sick pots, you, ll need them

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Ha Ha you tell them m8, I AGREE

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28 Jul 2011 12:36:29
a would take the 1mill we offered for vedohek or whatever his name is and sign jamie
murphy thats a bargain if u ask me {Ed019's Note - I think Murphy is a crackin player aswell.

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Murphy is a cracking player...also level headed, and a big Gers man, go get the boy Ally.

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28 Jul 2011 12:31:50
Peter Houston has come out and said that Goodwillie would prefer England. Not sure if that i s true or not but lets say for the moment it is

Given the £2m to spend who would you guys go for?

Prob get slated for this but I would match Swansea's £1.75m for Leroy Lita

Bluegenius.

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You haven't offered 2m for goodwillie so where does the 2m come from?

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Were does Op say we offered 2MILL for Goodwillie back to the swamp and learn to read before posting

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As none of us are in charge of Rangers and none of us have £2m it is clear that my thread is based on a theoretical situation. My figure is therefore really irrelevant. Just interested to see who my fellow bears think would like to see play in our glorious jersey. What I'm not interested in is some little twerp asking contentious questions on a light hearted matter.

Bluegenius

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If you had 50m who would you buy? {Ed047's Note - first post was credible. there probably is £2m available so I think he means if you were Coisty who would you buy. If I were Rangers manager with £50m to spend I'd be playing Footie Manager and I'd be cheating

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Any chance of someone giving an intelligent response? No surprise the wee gutter snipes that are bitching don't put their name up. Cheers for the backing ed - who would you go for?

Bluegenius {Ed047's Note - Obviously I'd want Verhoek and hopefully £2m would get him otherwise I'd say Samaras! Calm down guys, a joke!

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28 Jul 2011 12:27:15
In regards to Rangers and Craig Whytes transfer policy can someone tell me what has actually changed from our previous ownership (David Murray) . What I mean is that under Murray we had to sell before we could buy, this we all knew and accepted as we were in debt up to our eye balls etc etc.. Now for me it doesn't seem as though anything has changed as according to the latest reports we have to sell Bougy to fund moves for Naughtycock and this Dutch winger.. By all accounts with the 2 players we have signed so far couldn't have totalled the 5 million Whyte pledged for new transfers.. I would say a maximum of 2 million maybe not even as much.. This then leaves 3 to 4 million for new players.. 2 million each for the above players.. If Ally rates Goodwillie so highly as one of the best young strikers in the game why won't he pay the 2 million asked for instead of this 1.75 million and sell on clause that's been discussed.. If Goodwillie was to have a couple of good seasons then you have premiership teams sniffing about him for about 4/5 million then we have to go back to United and pay them whatever the fee may be.. I personally would rather pay the 2 million and be done with it.. No sell on clause or nothing.. It doesn't take a bright person to see that if we invest 5/6 million into the team now we would see that investment back with a good run in Europe and winning our title again.. Let's not kid ourselfs, celtic have a strong team this season so to compete we need to strengthen, it's that simple.. What do you guys think..? No matter what happens, it's Follow Follow..

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Finally someone speaking sense

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Buying players costs more than just the headline figure.

Wallace cost £1.5million and likely another £1.5million in wages over the next 3 years.

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I get your point about it's not just the initial fee but let's be honest whatever the figure Whyte pledged was for transfers NOW.. Not for 3 years down the line.. 3 years down the line becomes irrelevent if we have a good european run and win the leauge.. To achieve this though we have to buy new players.. There's only so long our group of current players can continue to win titles the way we are.. The existing players need help and compatition for places.. Look, if we really had 15 million to spend we would be spending it.. I honestly think our transfer policy hasn't changed a great deal from Murray.. On another note can someone please explain to me what Mo Edu is? One thing for sure is that he is not a football player.. Without doubt the most infuriating player to watch in a Rangers team in recent years..

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28 Jul 2011 12:26:36
Not so much a rumour as a basic maths lesson:

A £15million 'war chest' sounds impressive but think about what that can actually buy.

5 x free transfers on £20,000pw for 3 years.

OR

3 x £2million on £20,000pw for 3 years

Keep in mind that every year which was added to the contracts of David, Whittaker and McGregor used up £1.3million of that 'war chest'.

I'm not sure how many years were extended in total but say it was 2 years each. That's close to £8million gone, leaving £7million available.

David Goodwillie would cost £2million + £3million in wages over 3 years.

Is it any wonder that we are 'squabbling' over hundreds of thousands and have to look to sell before we can buy?

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Surely the budget for any players and contracts for existing players would be for this season, the people who have signed deals are now on 5yr contracts, there is no way that the budget includes their wages for the next 5yrs. Whyte said he would sanction 5m per yr for the next 5yrs, (25m). He then said he would make a further 10m available if needed. I don't think he has been very clear on what money is available and for what. If the 3 players who have signed these long term deals are on 1.3m a season, then over the next 5 yrs thats almost 20m. I don't think anyone except him knows what he's going to spend and I think that suits him just fine.

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The remainder of their current contracts would have been budgeted for. The extensions (I've guessed at 2 years each, I'm not sure what they actually were) would have to come from 'new money'. I have no inside knowledge but it ties in with what we're seeing in transfer activity (or lack of it).

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I remember reading details following Whyte's takeover that we would allow the annual wage bill to be increased, I think the figure was around £5m a season on top of the money for signings. So we would only have to fund the wages that go above this level from the transfer budget.

However, be aware that this increase in money up front (from £5m to £15m) will likely decrease the spending in future years, unless we sell for a profit and use that money to buy in new players.

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Yet another idiotic post by this way of doing transfers Clubfoot is a£3million pound player £1mill transfer and 4years wages at roughly 10k a week p.s ave got a wee runaround car book value £1, 500 but ave put about £6000 a petrol in it but I will sell for a bargain £6, 250 BEHAVE and STOP POSTING ABSOLUTE DRIVEL {Ed047's Note - I'll give you £2,000 and a packet of Cheese & Onion

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On the point about Broadfoot - yes, if another club wanted to buy him for £1million they would need to have £4million available within their transfer and wage budget.

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28 Jul 2011 14:40:03
Craig Whyte has talked about raising the initial budget from £5million to £15million

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Yep but this £15million includes transfers and wages (source: quote from Craig Whyte on STV News)

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28 Jul 2011 12:26:08
Ed if we were to sign bartley/cuellar/jhusaz(spelling) could we then maybe play bougherra in central midfield with davis and then wylde on left and ortiz on right with naismith up with jela till goodwillie comes in then naismith goes to right with iortiz on the left. what you think, possible? {Ed019's Note - I understand why you would think that, but im pretty sure mccoist wouldnt play bougherra in midfield. I expect he will go anyway if we get Juhasz or Cuellar in. 3 million pounds is meant to be the transfer fee.

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28 Jul 2011 12:15:32
Unfortunately I do not think Rangers will get their top targets (waited to long). They will compensate this with signings such as Goian instead of Cuellar and Davidson instead of Verhoek.

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Thats it were fecked

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28 Jul 2011 12:13:54
Belfast Telegraph article states time running out for Ally on different fronts, if they do not qualify for champions league they will miss out on potential £12m+, thus putting them in weaker position if HMRC case goes against Rangers as Whyte was hoping to offset Euro money towards any fine, also poor start to league has put Mccoist under pressure and bookmakers already quating odds of only 5/4 he will be sacked it also looks like fans dont trust McCoist either as they booed him at Ibrox against hearts for his negative tactics and only 28,000 turned up for Malmo game, Ally is under pressure on all fronts Shankhill Billie

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For a start lets get one thing straight Ally wasnt booed the players were booed and after a poor start to the league are you kidding me on?? 1 draw against the best team outside the old firm. He has only played 1 league game so get a grip. Over reaction is an understatement.

Billyboy1 {Ed019's Note - i agree totally

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Well if Whyte had paid the money for some transfers we would have won that game- And we will win the second leg

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Why when will Rino be playing against Newcastle byebye broonie we will miss having a laff at you Source kerryfail st and sellick rumours

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28 Jul 2011 12:05:09
if scott brown thinks hes so hard, just wait and see if rino gattuso comes back to the gers he will be left like a little boy.

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And it will give big Davie someone to share his werthers originals with, what a doughball statement to come out with, what are you 12?

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28 Jul 2011 12:04:13
If we get KO'd from CL we will NOT spend any more cash, Whyte was banking on this revenue.

We may as well get used to the idea that we wont be winning the league this year, no chance with what we have in terms of quality. At least there are 2 teams in CL next season, that is the only saving grace for us

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Have you got a short memory? Only 2 months ago that team won the SPL and was humping everyone. Have faith in McCoist we will come good and I have no doubt McCoist is the man for the job.

Billyboy1

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28 Jul 2011 12:01:25
we spent more cash last year when Lloyds controlled us Get your finger out Whyte

I am seriously thinking we wont get ANY top targets - shame for Ally as he is a Gers man thru and thru - he deserves better, we deserve better

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28 Jul 2011 11:46:50
Hopefully celtic fans will read this, how much have YOU spent in this transfer window ? ssshhhhhhhhhhhh

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28 Jul 2011 11:38:09
Bougherra to be sold to fu d moves for goodwilie and verhoek.

Well I don't see why everyone is complaining. Bougherra obviously wants to move on so therefore won't have the desire or passion to play for us anymore. This is just like Fabregas and arsenal. Was brilliant 2 seasons ago, last season didn't have the desire to play for them and is now moving on to barca.

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28 Jul 2011 10:41:24
Get Goodwillie in ASAP, would love Brunt as well..

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28 Jul 2011 10:29:44
Very much a rumour but to many people i know and respect say that goody was at Celtic park last night watching the friendly......Also hearing bellamay will be paraded as a celtic player before there euro qualifier.

hope not on both accounts or were f***

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Who gives a fu*k wit they dae or who they signJMGERS

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Agree, WHO GIVES A F*CKING TOSS FOR THAT LOT

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28 Jul 2011 10:15:37
Hope bougherra leaving story is true, he is good yes but I personally think his time is up, he creates too much of a nuisance with his forward runs and saying every summer he might leave. Goian to cover for him.
Hopefully we can take in Bartley as well and I feel thats CB covered well enough.

Main reason for wanting bougherra story to be true is the attacking presence it can bring in Verhoaek and goodwillie. THink they coul both slot into the team well for us, and set the heather on fire in the SPL.

Then all we need is a GOOD midfeilder to slot in ahead of Ed-who and mcuseless. Not entirely sure who since we dnt seem to want to give one of our own youngsters this role but slight rumours around Gattuso better be wrong, hes no way in a good enough form now. Wouldnt mind murray davidson, but he still has a lot to learn and I dont think hes better than NEss.

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I agree as soon as ness is fit he should be straight in the team inplace of that bunnet eduJMGERS

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28 Jul 2011 08:16:03
Not one person has gotten a transfer right yet in terms of a prediciton. Where are all the in the know people? The yank, the Romainian, Wallace and Ortiz. Nobody called them in advance of the papers.

Why is the £2.6 million a stumbling block for this dutch guy? We have an £18million war chest of which around £2.5 has been spent and almost £1 mill brought back in for Adam. Is the rumour about Whyte true, that he doesn't have the cash to put in and he has to free up other assets in other companies to fund Gers transfers? I am starting to worry that Bain et al were correct in saying that this guy is only here to build hotels etc next to Ibrox.

ps Even the bank spent £5.5 mill last year on Jela and Beattie. Cmon Mr Whyte, get the dosh out

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28 Jul 2011 07:05:49
At least we know our scouting system is working................for celtic, ffs, can they not look at their own targets, anyway, welcome back Bartley.

Stuz

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Money talks, maybe Rangers should stop window shopping and start putting money on the table instead of telling anyone that wants to listen who they want.

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28 Jul 2011 02:52:44
Is ally thinking of signing el-hadji diouf again permanently what do you think ed? {Ed047's Note - Nothing more than a rumour at the moment. I don't see what he gives us

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Ed, the very thought gives me a headache, please do not waste money on this loser Rangers............ please {Ed019's Note - It would be a waste of money in my opinion.

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Good for annoying the tims though

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28 Jul 2011 02:06:53
Just a question for my fellow bluenoses. Is goodwillie the right signing for us? Yes he is young and talented but i feel that the young and talented strikers we have signed in the past have almost always ended up playing in another position. Added too that he has little europian football. Surely it would be better to sign a more experienced player in the aged 26+ range and maybe sign goodwillie as more of a squad player to give us 4 strikers at the club who could provide the cover we are lacking. We only have 1 striker at present as lafferty is injured Steven Naismith is more a midfielder and David Healy and James Beattie are will past their best. leaving only Nikica Jelavić to play up front and he needs a strike partner to play well. SO the question again is Goodwillie the right choice or just one that is easy because he is a rangers fan that can score in the spl?

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Think you're living in a bygone era mate, when we used to sign top quality, no scratch around taking what we can get. Don't see Goodwillie being signed to sit on the bench.

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28 Jul 2011 01:37:38
just heared that if rangers lose to malmo, we drop into a qualifier for europa league, can anyone confirm this.

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Stv have said this. I've also seen it in a recent daily mail online story - so i think you're right.

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28 Jul 2011 01:23:09
see with the £1m that we bidded for verhoek we should put that onto the goodwillie bid to secure him seen as the team verhoek plays for look set to knock that bid back i really dont know why whyte is going to make another offer of £1.85m + add ons when dundee utd have said numerous f***ing times they wont accept anything less than 2m what part of that dosent whyte understand is this another player we are going to lose

mcgregor
whitts
goian
bartley
papac
naismith
davis
bedoya
wallace
goodwillie
jelavic

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Why not put the 1.85 mill on to verhoek bid and sign the better player first

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Because as you have seen in previous games its a goal scorer we need right now and a defender and in my opinion i would rather have goodwillie over verheok

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28 Jul 2011 01:15:40
If the scum sign goodwillie we wood be aswell handin them the title now and go on next years summer holidays. P.S. To the guy that says broadfoot and papac for centre half in malmo, r u jokin? We will get hammered if them 2 clowns play CB.

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Papac, our most consistent defender for the past 2-3 years, is a clown?

Now I've heard it all.

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28 Jul 2011 00:32:07
The scottish sun has the headline of Celtic bidding for Goodwillie. Apparently at their game against wolves last night - if rumours are to be believed.

if we lost him to them we'd never hear the end of it.

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You cant lose something or someone you dont have. He isnt yours to lose, hes a dundee utd player

Mikey

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Ha may try but wont succeed £1.5mill is less than £1.85mill

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28 Jul 2011 00:23:12
celtic yet again in for our targets. now they r tryin 2 steal goodwillie from us.

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We are actualy trying to buy him from Dundee Utd (if the rumours are true) not steal him from yous

Mikey

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28 Jul 2011 00:22:32
boghie out 3 mil in
verhoek & goddie... 4 mill
whyte way to prove yerself big yin
JordanBruce1

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28 Jul 2011 00:20:40
Can any1 tell me who we will play @ centre half in malmo if we sell bougy?

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Papac and broadfoot, with whittaker and wallace as the two full backs,

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Be better with the Whyte Knight at CB than Clubfoot.... and he's 3 feet nothing

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Bartley and The Big Bloke . Unless yer talkin about the CL game then I have no clue. Big lee and Whitty?

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Were do you get 1 good season from Napoli bid £8 mill for him a year ago

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28 Jul 2011 00:17:05
What does an ADO fan feel about the prospect of losing Wesley Verhoek?

Delighted with the Rangers bid. Obviously too low, but the more clubs that participate the better.

Consider that a sum around three million is too much for a player who only played one good season.

If a bid comes in of 2 million or more, I would accept it with the stipulation that we get half the profits in a subsequent transfer.

My forecast: 2.2 million in mid-August

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Yeah goodwillies been kept out the team mainly because of this court case hanging over his head..Craig levein said that yesterday or day before on stv news

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28 Jul 2011 00:16:31
I thought Jamie Murphy was a Celt.c fan bears but he's actually a Rangers fan, I bet not much of us knew that Daily express "self-confessed Ibrox fan Murphy" I've been impressed with him. Could do a job on the left. I'm also liking the Boogie out, verhoek & goodie in headline on the Daily Record.

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Been posting on here for two weeks that Murphy is a 'mad' Gers fan, and also if you look at the Scotland u21s, he's been in the starting 11 all the time.......and who does he keep out of the team??
GOODWILLIE....Go on, check out the stats.....cracking player.

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28 Jul 2011 00:11:12
if a was ally mccoist all the players i would to sign is:
goodwillie - £2m
cuellar - £2m
verhoek - £1.5 - 2m
bedoya - 400,000 before 31st of august

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That's all the players he is trying to sign. :o

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27 Jul 2011 23:52:41
boughie out for £3million, verhoek and goodwillie in for £4million, id take that deal instantly. the back page of 2morra's daily record is on rangers sightings

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27 Jul 2011 23:38:32
Any1 else think mo edu should be giving a 5year deal he has been reeli playin for the jersey

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Should probably stop smoking that crack mate

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Sorry are u talking about the same edu that just stands in the middle of tha park then when the ball comes to him he acctually moves and runs away from the ball he shouldent even have been f***ing signed nevermind a new 5 year contract hahha

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Sell Edu for 2m, put his shirt on a coatstand in the middle of the park and hey presto same result and 2m better off.

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Edu ? Is that you back on the banter page? I wouldny gie ye another 5 weeks, never mind 5 years...so put that spliff doon, take yer blue t shirt aff and get up the road GBTQ

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Can we please stop with the GBTQ stuff, we aren't all royalists, I'm too proud a Scotsman to get involved in this so grow up mate and stop embarassing us all.

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