Rangers Banter Archive June 24 2011

24 Jun 2011 22:29:08
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Say's on man city rumours page that mancini is prepared to let weiss go to rangers for 2 mill

this means nowt m8 i posted on Man U page that evans is coming to Rangers to prove a point and its there now

also sometimes i post on other sites like Man citys and say Shay Given moving to Celtic in 4.5 mil deal then sit back and pi55 myself laughing at all the celtic fan going on thier page and claiming to know this is happening and using my post to back themselves up

24 Jun 2011 22:26:52
Guys, don't think anyone over the moon with perhaps losing Mcgregor. However if we were to get something like 9ml plus Cuellar and bought either Gilks[stick out] for 3ml [Swansea have offered 2ml] or Gordon for say 4ml it is a lot of cash to throw elsewhere. I would never knock Mcgregor but Alexander NEVER let us down and Gilks is a cracker, and we get Cuellar, won't say no brainer but a real option.

Gilks is on a free so swansea havent beid anything for him

Sorry you are correct, they chased him earlier, now out of contract and all the more reason to grab him.

24 Jun 2011 21:23:36
Danns has been keen to sign for Rangers for some weeks -he will, but is obviously looking for a more inflated deal depending on other interest. He will sign for Rangers. Yorkielad

On facebook it say that he has signed a 3 year deal

24 Jun 2011 19:56:15
Your cousin is in signing talks or Diamond is? lol
Good, I hope he signs. They already have a shi* defence. He'll improve it in the same way pneumonia improves a cough!!!

the same shi* defence that broke the record for most clean sheets yeah?

It doesn't matter how many clean sheets yous lot had the only thing that matters is that big SPL trophy at the end of the season. Lol WATP

True but that guy said we have a s**t defence when its clear that we don't

Here pal yez are just sh t so deal with it

24 Jun 2011 18:28:15
rangers to buy
chris eagles for 2.5m
david goodwillie 1.8m
lee wallace 600k
carlos cuellar 2.7m

24 Jun 2011 17:07:47
Hey ed have you any update regarding cuellar and goodwillie? Heard some talking about talksport abot new bids being offered for the two. Have you heard anything mate?

{Ed010's Note -No update on either I'm afraid. It's been reported that Ally McCoist has returned from holiday today and went straight into a meeting with Craig Whyte and Gordon Smith, so improved bids may have been on the agenda. Unfortunately, we'll all just have to wait and see if that was the case.

Don't get me wrong I think Goodwilliw would be a tremendous signing for us but what I don't get is that he has 2 court cases coming up 1 serious the other extremely serious and ourselves and Cardiff have put bids in.

Do the clubs know something the justice system doesn't?

I honestly can't see him moving until there has been a verdict for both cases.

Any thoughts?

Obviously he can move or folk would not bid for him

24 Jun 2011 16:12:14
Ed will you answer this 1

6th attempt to publish a comment
Answer this 1 where r the nugent drenthe and the obertan rumors coming from for the 3 time answer this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

{Ed010's Note -The truth of the matter is that I have no idea who posts what, unless they leave a name on their post or provide an email address. As you are aware, there is no requirement to do either and that is how it should be, entirely optional. So to answer your question, they are rumours and without source.

The entire football rumours website has recently grown to such an extent, that the site programmer's have started to move the individual team pages, from one server to another. I am afraid that I have no idea of what this entails but one of the many issues that can occur, are that "posts" can go missing.

24 Jun 2011 16:35:59
5 million for 2 players may seeem alot but they will be main players then get bosmans and cheaper players for squad !!!!

Money well spent

24 Jun 2011 16:09:38
Not a rumour but says that crystal palace willing to listen to offers for ambrose.

IMO i think he would do great, great at running at players and scores some crackers as well.

What you guys think??

Donny

Always thought he had tallent even when he was at newcastle i think he wuld b a great signing and wuld score goals aswell as b a great runner and support player

24 Jun 2011 15:53:25
'Mr Whyte please pay the 3m for cuellar the 2m for goodwillie and offer 500k for lee wallace if hearts reject come back in Jan!!! these players will improve the team and would still leave money for a winger and another CB. and offer whittaker a take it or leave deal if he doesn't want it flog him. he's not good enough to be one of our top paid players!!! '

Agree about Whittaker - Whitts, you're not as good as you think you are. If you don't like the offer, bye!
As regards the three potential signings I think Mr Whyte is walking into the shallow end. The selling clubs have jumped in at the deep end and they'll meet somewhere in between. I don't think he should just offer what they ask for. He obviously will undervaluate, they will overevaluate until agreement is reached.

Sell whittaker he is sh#t

24 Jun 2011 15:32:19
Lets be patients lads the signings will come in soon!! Still 4 weeks till the season starts the window aint even open yet. If Whittaker is not willing to accept 20k (which he is nowhere near worth) then he aint good enough for the gers. I would personally have bitten Bursaspors hand off but he is a versatile player which is a good thing. Roll on July 23rd the start of the McCoist era. Lets all get right behind Super Ally as he leads us into a new dawn. In McCoist We Trust!!

Billyboy1!!!!

24 Jun 2011 12:18:41
I am dead against McGregor going anywhere for any amount of money or players, I have stated my reason on here yesterday, he gave us the title with his penalty save simple. However if he was to go there is only 1 keeper we should look at and that is most certainly not Gordon ( too injury prone, poor poor form ) it would be Gilks who I believe is also FREE - Ed am I right? This would keep Alexander interested and the 2 of them could really push for a chance of the jersey! Gilks is a great shot stopper- Thoughts Ed I like our inputs.

WATP - GDog

{Ed010's Note -I am in the "sell him" camp but only if it is an exceptional offer. I read somewhere tha Arsenal were rumoured to be considering £10m (cash) + Bartley + Vela (loan). If this were the case, I would grab this deal with both hands because in my opinion, Neil Alexander is an adequate replacement. How can we forget his value to the team during both the Scottish and Uefa cup runs in 2008.

However, if I had to choose a replacement for McGregor, I would certainly agree with you and place Matt Gilks, who is out of contract, at the front of the queue.

Must agree if they also get wallace
with papac a natural cb i would be looking
for a rb because i do not rate whittaker
that highly get a creative cm
and another striker and we are sorted

Who was it that went on a mazy run against sporting lisbon, he scored a goal fro his own box by running up the fieldl all by himslef got us into the semi finals, so get a blooming life guys, i rate him

We were already going through mate they had to score two inside 2 minutes, i think he is a good player but for 20k a week your talking jelavic and davis and i dont think whittaker is anywhere near as good if he is then papac deserves 20k too as he is better than whittaker

Worst defender than broadfoot and that is hard 20k only star player might get that, sell hime and we will gain an extra 2 points a seaon as he will not be there to fall asleep and let the opposition get behind him

I think the fact that the biggest highlight of Whittakers career at Rangers was a mazy run at the end of a game that was stretched underlines the fact that he is a mediocre versatile defender at best who got pulled inside out many a time last season, NO WAY would I offer him more than 20k thats more than fair and for him to allow his agent to say (publicly) we better offer him what he wants or he will just sign a pre contract in January meaning we will get no fee was the final straw. I can count his great defence performances in 1 hand or finger for that matter. I think he is good going forward though personally I would train him to cross properly and he would be a good Right Winger because anyone with a trick or pace always roasts him when he is at full back.

24 Jun 2011 14:49:04
Edu is only 25, I think he can be a really good player at times, a part of me doesn't want to see him leave and the other part is that I would rather get Neil Danns to play instead of him.

Naisy Davis Danns Wylde

Sub mifielders (Ness, McCulloch) switch them about to keep squad freshness (Ness is a monster talent but Davis is a class act)

Some midfield, hard-working, skillful and fast and 3 diehard lifelong Ranger's, we're a talented bunch lol!

Really dont think Edu will get any better, any decent offer grab it and use it for someone like Wallace. On Danns you seem to be like many, rating him highly when if we are honest most of us have almost zero knowledge on him. Do you see any decent English teams chasing him?

24 Jun 2011 13:16:27
cardiff have put a bid in for cuellar aswell as goodwillie

GO AWAY!!! dark one

24 Jun 2011 13:11:23
Alright guys! Just wanted to say that I'm not in the least bit worried abouth the lack of signings so far. This is clearly the way that Craig Whyte does his business and the time taken to complete the takeover should prove that.

Alot of Gers fans are used to the way that Mr Murray used to deal with transfers, which was basically just to throw however much money at the team selling whoever he was buying to get them.

This is one of the reasons we ended up in such a state financially in the first place. I loved the fact that David Murray invested so much of his own money in the team but the financial climate has changed enormously over the past few years and it doesn't make good financial sense to throw money at the problem.

Craig Whyte specialises in buying struggling companies and getting them making money again. That's exactly what he's doing with Rangers. He will attempt to get the best deal possible on any player he signs in order to further strengthen the position of the club as a whole.

I think he will get Goodwillie for less than the asking price which will be good for Rangers as I can't see a player like him staying for the rest of his career, and if Rangers wish to sell him on then they will want as much profit (not taking wages into consideration) as possible. This goes for any player.

Come on fellow bears. Lead with your heads and not your hearts and show the patience we did through the saga of the takeover and I'm positive things will get better and better before long.


BigBear1873

24 Jun 2011 12:14:32
I don't understand all the fuss about Goodwillie signing, He's a lazy CF who knows where the net is - Sound Familiar?
Jelavic is obviously no1 Striker, but Lafferty IS better than Goodwillie as he produces the goods when it matter most, Naismith can play up top and although another Striker is needed to bolster squad I would rather have Kenny Miller, he scored far more in half a season than Goody and his work rate and fast 1 touch link up with Naismith would be of more benefit than another poacher. He is also experienced in playing in the European games and would burst his balls to prove himself all over again, not to mention his old firm Goals he ALWAYS scores.
Whittaker got roasted by Templeton in 1 of most important games of split he isn't worth £20k let alone more. Why dont we swap for Kenny Miller and use the cash set aside for a striker to buy a good Right Back.
Kenny would happily take £15-20k per week to return to the Champions, he is only player to have won 4 SPL medals in the past 5 seasons so get him back and lets see him and Jelavic up top together, the Fail fail defence would get destroyed.

Your jumping on the Kyle Lafferty band wagon now. Anyone who consistently watches him and says he's a good footballer hasn't got a clue about the game. He's hopeless and always will be.

Remind me who scored the goals to win the title again?? Only 5 goals behind the so called lethal hitman Hooper. Give the guy a chance he is only 23 after all.

Billyboy1!!!!

Im not jumping on the Lafferty bandwagon! I feel we would benefit more with a player of Kenny Millers qualities (hard working, fast and a decent finisher) in comparison to Goodwillie (good finisher.) I do watch plenty of football as I am a full time football coach with a degree in sports coaching I feel I am more than qualified to have an opinion without dafties telling me I don't know anything because I have faith in Lafferty.
I have told Rangers to get shot of him many a time but you are only as good as your last game, how did that pan out again?

24 Jun 2011 11:50:44
Mcgregor is NOT for sale unless someone makes a very big offer no bids below £12m

24 Jun 2011 11:16:23
Am I right in hearing we are interested in Ivan Trickovski ? just from what I've seen on here, and do people think he would be a good signing ?

Cant afford him

24 Jun 2011 09:47:27
Doesn't look too good the now does it :( Whittaker rejecting our 'final offer' and Boughie leaving and no one wanting to join us and us not wanting to pay the going rate for players... get your finger out Whyte!!

24 Jun 2011 08:53:36
I had to laugh at Craig Whytes comments re backing McCoist in the transfer market, yeah right, looks like it, we've lost out on Hemed, Conway, probably Goodwillie, we need to up our offer for Cuellar & it's went quiet on the Danns speculation & another thing if Whittaker doesn't want to sign a new contract, sell him NOW, we don't need players like him at the club, Bursaspor, he's all yours.

24 Jun 2011 08:42:56
Of course u would, gordon has been superb for scotland when he has played, ill give u the injury bit since the last season or 2 he does seem to have picked up a few but if he can stay fit then for me he is a better keeper than mcgregor

Lol well you mus be the only person in the country, the Scotland international boss included, who thinks this! Mcgregor is the best goalkeeper Scotland have had since The Goalie! No doubting on his day Gordon is a great keeper.... But greegs has won that battle hands down!

I hope you don't ever post on this, because if your rumours are as accurate as your player ability knowledge we'd be in real trouble!

24 Jun 2011 07:33:09
The Sun: "Cardiff want to snatch a second player from under Ally McCoist's nose after moving for David Goodwillie".
As far as I was aware you hadn't put in any bids for him and Craig Whyte openly refused to pay the asking price for him. It's hardly Rangers' god given right to have first refusal on him is it?
Kevbhoy

Rangers never spoke about money to Conway. So Cardiff never beat us to him. Don't believe everything the papers write. You should know that kevbhoy.
Followfollow81

24 Jun 2011 06:42:41
Come on £12million for Allan. I'd drive him to London myself. He's a fantastic keeper but that's huge money. Id be more than happy with Alexander and I'd sign cammy bell or Randolph as back up.

Rangers are expected to go back to dundee utd for goodwillie over the weekend with an offer. An an improved offer for Carlos is being prepared ! Danns and nugent are back ups so I doubt we will pay the wages there looking ! We may bid on the wanayama kid septic are looking at. Would be revenge on them for the amount of times they did it on us !

24 Jun 2011 04:57:52
I know we are not the richest club in the world but from what i am reading we are acting like we are the poorest. We laughed at Bursaspor for being cheapskates and offering so little for Whittaker, now we are doing the same to other clubs. In my opinion Goodwillie is worth more than 2million and i believe that 2million is a good price for him yet Whyte says we wont pay that. You haggle and pay a cut price for unknown gems but Goodwillie is one of the hottest prospects in britain so its not as if Dundee Utd wont have other teams in for him. I say step up and pay Mr Whyte and stop being a cheapskate or else lose out on yet another player because you are unwilling to pay an extra 500k for a guy that in 2-3 years time we could probably sell for 5-6 million. what do you think ed do you think that Whyte is being too tight and not offering enough money and ultimately making us miss out on players??

24 Jun 2011 02:56:25
I was thinking that Lee Wallace may be bought for the Champions League when we have a successful formation of 5 at the back, Papac further in for protection for Weir and Wallace playing the left wing-back because Fosters away home to the sheep. I think if we bring in Wallace which would be a great buy considering he's only turning 24 and just give him some games here and there this season to try and help his injury problems mend and maybe get something for Papac in January 'cause it's his last year or keep him till the end of the season and a massive talent Wallace our next left-back.

Would be a great bit of buisness and since they are wanting £1Million think we should bid around £500,000 would be some deal for one of the best Scottish players (when not injured obviously)

I think the idea to sign wallace
papac natural postion is c.b gers converted him to left back

Dont think McCoist will play 5 at the back, hope not anyway 4-3-3 all the way. can convert it to a 4-5-1 when the going gets tough.

24 Jun 2011 02:05:54
Johnny Russell done the bouncy against us when he scored the equaliser in the game they won at Ibrox lol, couldn't help myself but giggle at his celebration, he's probably a catholic I'm thinking he's taking the piss but actually he was just showing that the bears love a bounce and a party, good young player though and would have him at Ibrox.

He was doing just cant get enough a**hole

Johnny, not that it matters much these days, is not catholic. He's from Coatbridge, attended Coatbridge High where his younger brother Mark still attends.

BigGordi.

'He was doing just cant get enough' lol could you hear him?

24 Jun 2011 01:35:30
Is it possible that Mr whyte is the anti-christ and that the celtic supporters are trying to save the world with the help of the church and are really upset because the thought of rangers not being there to oppose their domination of scottish football would make it look so bad for them and they wouldnt be able to point their little fingers at ibrox anymore and it might even solve the unemployment problem they would all have to get jobs and become mature responsible citizens thus removing the bigotry issues and through time it might even improve or way of life as a nation no celtic or rangers think of it..the perfect solution when Scotland becomes independant..happy days...?

24 Jun 2011 01:16:56
Its sometimes said "better wi the devil you know as the one you dont know" I think this sums up this whole situation to a T Ive never heard anybody mention if ibrox is getting a coat of paint or the loos fixed or the sound system done or the big tv s are being repaired nothing....No one is being told anything -speculation in the press is being silenced..re daily record story Whats going on?nobody knows anything...is this how to treat your customers?we keep hearing all the stories coming from people "in the know"none of you have a clue! it seems a funny way to market your product?

Daily Record story was removed because it was untrue and they were threatened with a lawsuit. That sent out a message to the media in general, get your facts right before you print, so there will be no more scaremongerer stories and half truths. Regarding the maintenance and repairs in and around Ibrox, Whyte has already outline what has to be done and has said it would be mostly complete before the start of the new season, apart from the new Jumbotron screens which will arrive early in the new season. I wouldn't expect any headlines regarding repairs, although you never know with the Daily Record on a slow news day......
'Bigoted painters caught Red Handed using Orange paint at Ibrox'.
BigGordi.

Thats the problem with rumours they might be out and out lies but as Ive said before if we are being told nothing who can you say is telling what truth ? have you heard anything different from me? as Im less convinced than before and Ive made my decision regarding myself and I care a lot about the outcome and thats the advantage one has as a fan if you dont like what you see you can choose to not buy..simple as that .

24 Jun 2011 00:13:21
Obviously as fans we like to focus on who we are signing but just to change things up a wee bit I was thinking about any young players that might break into the first team this year. The one that comes to mind for me is Ross Perry, he is highly rated and if I'm not mistaken captain of the Scotland U21s. Anyone know much about him, by the sounds of it he is the next Danny Wilson.

GovanFR

Has perry not been released

He was on loan at Falkirk for the last part of the season there is all I really know, hopefully we keep him, he seems promising.

23 Jun 2011 23:57:38
Just wondering if Martin bain getting a £100,000 pay rise and taking £700,000 a year wages out of a club struggling financially sticks in anyone else's throat.

Aye, when ordinary staff were taking paycuts and players were being offered contracts on half their salary.

23 Jun 2011 23:49:55
Fact: rangers lost out on Conway to Cardiff because they couldn't offer him the wages:rangers lost out on hemed because they couldnt offer him the wages:rangers loosing the battle to sign danns because there not offering the wages:rangers trying to buy goodwillie on the cheap , even tho he's worth in excess of 2 million.fact, any agent who has been dealing with mcoist and co will agree, he's got the brains for the dressing room, but not for the deals.was Martin Bain really that bad...... Time will tell against mr whytes plans!

I'm gonna sign for rangers, FACT, it must be true because i wrote FACT. So lets sort your FACT's out. Rangers never even made Conway an offer, we offered Hamed a good deal but we can't compete with the wages a Spanish team can offer regardless of how small a team they are and while Goodwillie is a good player we should try and get him as cheap as we can, not just give them what they want straight away. Everything you put up is an opinion, not a FACT so maybe get your FACTs right and get behind Ally rather than making judgement's on him before the transfer window is even open

I agree and that is a FACT !! Lol patience bears, can't wait for the new season and 4nro

23 Jun 2011 23:29:09
oh whit, Blackburn Rovers want Super Mo?? please don't take Maurice Edu away from us, he's the man Ally McCoist was going to build around next year.

It'll be a sad day when big Mo leaves - £5m would be a steal btw, he's the Xavi of the SPL