Rangers Banter Archive November 23 2014

23 Nov 2014 13:50:07
After recent poor performances, the board has asked McCoist to resign as we can't afford to sack him. It will be announced that either Stuart McCall or Billy Davis will be our next manager!

{Ed039's Note - Heard that one before, have they not heard that Ally doesn't do walking away?)

McCall would be a good manager but not billy davis, the man has serious issues he was a nightmare at forest & got the sack twice, seems fall out with everyone at the club & his tactics are on par with allys but when he was at forest that all we kept hearing " he, s just waiting for the rangers job " not good enough.

I grow up in the mccoist era and loved him but he's another john g great player but not a manager if we don't change manager soon we could be stuck were we are for years with crowds falling at a alarming rate ally should go b4 he becomes hated I have always stood by him but he's had more than enough time and we play the same dross week in week out feel like not going back after another dreadfull performance

Let's hope that this is the case although i'm not convinced with either the names mentioned would love to see mccoist walk rather than sacked and if he does go I don't think he'll get another job in football management.

Were did you get that fae. isnae McCall heed bashed as well.

If he won't do walking away fine, but as
he is the manager he is responsibe for the coaching of the team, perhaps he sould look at replacing his coaching staff.

How many times does ally decide to put on a defender to replace a forward and we either lose the game or drop points ally is a rangers legend and I hope he always will be but I'm hearing he won't walk for less than a million if that's the case he is not the rangers great I thought he was he would just become another man robbing our club

Heed bashed? What does that mean andy? Not that I want McCall either.

The last thing this board would want is somebody like Billy Davies who actually has the cojones to call them out.

No, they would much rather have a complete yes man like Super Ally, who will tell fans to back Craig Whyte, Charlie Green or anybody else as long as they are happy to pay his sickeningly inflated salary.

Naz trust me mate rangers don't need billy davis the man has real issues, went on a media ban at forest so rubbed the press & tv up & was sacked twice by two different owners & wasted a hell of a lot of money on s**t players got rid of the youth team & pi**ed a lot of people off he's bad news

23 Nov 2014 11:54:06
Some calm would be good. We've come up from the bottom tier (still outrageous we were put there in the first place - would that have happened to Manchester United or Chelsea? - we've won back-to-back titles and we are still in the Championship race. We're also in the League Cup semis, Challenge Cup semis and still in the Scottish Cup. Yes, McCoist has to go sooner or later and yes we should have built our team from scratch in Div 3 using the nucleus of young talent we had. If we can go on a run of 10 or 12 league games unbeaten and progress in the cups then come February things might look much brighter. The aim is to get into the SPL and by then we must have a new manager, new Board and new investors.

Doiger. I think you must be getting your dreams mixed with your fantasies.

your dream off a new manager,board and new investors , in the summer is pure fantasy.

In order to achieve all three you`ve missed out one more new" and that's a club.

no way these guys are going to bail out when the`ve got big bucks to cream off should they make the SPFL.

Also Ashley will want the deal handing back stadium naming rights. for Sports Direct three year strip sponsorship deal implemented.

23 Nov 2014 14:14:01
If we are so skint and have to keep getting loans to see us through where is the big bucks these guys are supposedly creaming off?
r. f

How many times do I need too say this We where never ever relegated or demoted we applied to join the, spfl. by f#ck is it that hard to say it????why do so many think demoted?who started this train of thought?maybe it's all the spin &bluster& lies over the last few years pfffffff

Sadbear,
It's the cr@p green fed everyone when trying to get everybody to throw there
Hard earned cash at him. I have to say if Man U or Chelsea ever went into liquidation they would need to start again.

23 Nov 2014 22:45:29
Still outrageous we were put there!??outrageous statement that is! Rangers applied to be there after the liquidation don't you remember? Pull your head out the sand bud and have a good look at what's happened in "real" terms

That's it in a nutshell m8 too many with heads in the sand, &carrying on as if the big L never happened!!self persecution complexes me thinks.

23 Nov 2014 09:33:32
Some posters and ed 39 seem to only make comments after a draw or defeat never a word of praise for ally or the team when we're winning 4 or 5 on the trot, beating top teams in the cup why don't u just admit it u never have and never will like mccoist. come may we WILL be champions again.
r. f

{Ed039's Note - R.F. have a wee look mate, there are plenty of people with a plenty of different opinions, but I need to ask how you can enjoy the football being served up. I am asking everyone to look at the situation logically, the money that has been spent compared to every other side bar Celtic (too the point where we are probably 1 month away from administration without bail outs), the squad available, the facilities available ....... How can this be good enough? And I have criticised McCoist reign at numerous points over the 3 years I have been editing here, even after winning 4 or 5 on the trot)

23 Nov 2014 10:26:42
As I said always critical, I will give u that with the facilities they have they should be doing far better as for wages the manager doesn't decide that, that was down to the c. e. o when they were signed but my point is still he's never praised by certain posters when team is doing well but a draw or defeat BANG he gets it in the neck.
r. f

{Ed039's Note - You think that's wrong? In any normal work place, if you do well, you get praised, perhaps even earn a bonus. But when you get things wrong - BANG you get it in the neck. Its the same with a football team, look at the situation with Alan Pardew between 2 months ago and now, look at Liverpool last season, Brendon Rodgers was the messiah, now he has a big dark cloud hanging over him. That's what happens)

23 Nov 2014 11:08:21
Not saying its wrong yes he deserves it but he also deserves praise when things are going well which is not forthcoming from certain posters who tend only to post when results don't go our way.
r. f

{Ed039's Note - Yes but looking at the bigger picture in general my personal opinion is that praise isn't warranted, I know things aren't right overall and it must be terrible circumstances to work under but with the budget and facilities available the product should still be better)

ED: I'll reply to your post, we are RANGERS we don't get/expect praise for beating the likes of Dumbarton, Raith Rovers, Falkirk.
Its demanded no matter what.

{Ed039's Note - Agreed, I have already said in another post the circumstances currently being worked under aren't great and it is impossible to plan long term but it should still be better with whats available)

Simples macoist must through the door marked exit whatever the cost down the line

Rf if we were beating Manchester United arsenal or even the rotten mob then yes praise would be deserved. we have won the last two leagues against teams who's players are grafting for 8hours before the play us. ok the standard is slightly higher in the championship but come on. seriously!the absolute dross I have watched for the last few years bar a few decent games is all down to one man. and that's ally. he signed them, he coaches them, he sets the team up and he tells them how to play. when I saw daly was in from the start along side stevie hawfwit smith I knew it would be punts up the park hoping for scraps off his knock downs. that's how a junior team would play. not Rangers. I am sick to death repeating myself but we should have had 8/9 young players with over 70 games under their belts by now if we had a manager with a pair!!But he is that hopeless and a sh@%#bag a manager he has single handedly driven our club to the brink by signing hasbeens. i'm going to finish now by saying one more thing. look at hamilton. look how they play with no where near the facilities or financial backing we have. count how many young guys under the age of 25 and how many games they have played. that should be us. so ally GTF!

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Can't argue with any of that mate the players though don't look as though they are getting trained at all. It's as if they don't see each other all week and just turn up for the game on the Saturday. I really don't think I have ever seen such a poor Rangers team with hardly any flair players and so negative. Smith, Foster, Black, Daly and Moshni should be nowhere near the team. Miller, Boyd and Law are poor and it's alarming that players like Wallace seem to be going backwards at an alarming rate. All down to the manager

23 Nov 2014 09:17:03
Guys a bit of calm! Rangers were the better team yesterday and would have won but for the sending off! Even Robbie Neilson agrees. May is a long way off and rangers will win the league.

As for a certain semi final please remember that Celtic are no great shapes. They have struggled just about every week and rangers results against premier league opposition are comparable to theirs.

I think rangers will win the semi (and cup) ironically one of the reasons for optimism is that celtic will not cope with the long ball, at last ally's tactics may just be right!

But only if we keep 11 on the park

{Ed039's Note - I really can not agree with this post at all, your opinion and you are entitled to it and I admire your optimism, but with Ally at the helm and his tactical naivety I think we will get slaughtered)

23 Nov 2014 09:27:13
Thanks Ed. I accept that but you wiill appreciate that I hope you are long. I m not saying we are without fault but just not as bad as most posters think. (I am probably a minority of 1) and head maybe in sand but I do believe come may end of season results ( I never said performances) will be acceptable to most fans.

I will post in January either to gloat or apologise, cheers ed!

{Ed039's Note - Post before January mate, I am just voicing my frustration and difference of opinion, and if its any consolation, I also hope I am wrong)

Stef Reid

It's worrying that still some Rangers fans are so far detached from reality. How bad does it have to get before you realise just how clueless the manager is? Can you honestly say that the performances are acceptable? Why do you think so many Rangers fans don't go anymore?

Celtic aren't anything special but they won't have to be to beat us by a few goals. 3-1 I think.

Stewie

I did make the point that performances are not acceptable. R. esults on the other hand?

I know we are not good side but are we honestly as bad as 99 percent of posters on here say we are.

I think we will beat Celtic or at the very least it will be very close with a goal or decision deciding the game.

Well, Stef Reid, you can have the bacon roll for the most ridiculous comments so far. This Rangers team will not beat Celtic unless Celtic decide to play their u17's boys. The team has no pace, no guile, zero creativity and against better players they will get taken apart. A statement saying Celtic won't deal with the long ball. oh my god. the long ball, that tactical masterplan. Celtic have 2 6ft plus centre backs who are not scared to header the ball but I suppose if John Daly keeps smashing people with his forearm then you might just get lucky. Please tell me what happens when this long ball makes it onto the green stuff, who is going to provide the spark of genius to open them up. Let's go to the other end of the pitch, who is going to stop them ripping McCulloch and Mohshni apart. what about the centre of midfield, Black and Law going to dominate the game. now I know you are a passionate fan but get your head out of the sand, this team is the poorest I have ever seen and I include the John Greig years in that.

The results have been acceptable part from 2 draws against Alloa, and matches v the Edinburgh clubs, especially the Hibs match, that was a right bad result and display.

Cheers ally mac, can't argue with anything you say, not seen celtics two centre halfs but from results and friends I do not believe them to be that good. I think my point is playing football we probably don't have a chance but long ball knock down, law or miller to put it away. I suppose my arguement does fall down when you look at our defence but your point about midfield, I won't lose sleep over brown and mulgrew!

As I say will be first on with humble pie should we lose but will expect the same should we turn them over!

PS bacon roll was great, cheers!

Remember Celtic are not Alloa Athletic The Goal machine that is John Guditti, will rip the well past it Rangers defence apart, as for midfield Scott Brown, Johannson, Kris Commons, James Forrest all a complete level above anythng offerd by the rangers midfield. No goal threat from Rangers at all Boyd canny score in the championship Millar still gives 110% but no help from his team mates. Jon Daley even less mobile than Boyd.
I was really hoping to see Rangers back in the top flight next season for the benefit of both clubs Celtic need raners for the chllenge and the intensity. Rangers need the financial side of being in the top flight. As a Celtic fan I do hope you get your act together on th pitch, but forget about beating us in the semi but I can't wait

23 Nov 2014 08:19:52
The people who voted no today are kidding them selfs on the football is shocking PLG had a better record & he got chased.

I cannot understand any fan loving 1 man more than the club. He is running us into the ground and some people still back him because he was a great player once upon a time. he is always going to be a legend as a player but his managerial reign has been disastrous. it will take some time for me to forget how much money he has sucked out of our club at a time when we are struggling to pay the bills and given us such a poor product on the pitch in return

22 Nov 2014 18:41:27
Ed, do you think our manager ally mccoist will still be our manager come january & could you do a poll on this as well please ed, also who should we get as our next manager, cheers ed!

{Ed039's Note - I believe Ally will be the manager in January yes, I don't agree with it, I believe he should have gone 2 and a half years ago but if he did go then I believe Stuart McCall would be the next manager)

22 Nov 2014 23:26:42
Does anyone recall David Murray trying to buy man city when they were in the lower reaches of English football when ENIC were involved but it didn't go through as ENIC had invested 40 million in the Gers and also had league interests in various other euro clubs I remember reading that David Murray was trying to buy man city and then eventually get rangers to take their place in English football but think I honestly might have imagined this but sure I read it somewhere in the very late 90's if anyone else heard this can they let me know so that I know I'm not going insane as I can't find anything anywhere online about this.

P's. If it's true ''oh where we could have been now'' although still picking up bad results in europe.

{Ed001's Note - there was a time when he investigated the possibility of buying a club and getting Rangers to take their place. There were a number of possibilities mooted, Man City went through bad times and were suggested, but it was never a realistic possibility and the idea was dropped. Looking back on it now, I should have realised Rangers were in trouble financially when they never even considered buying into Darlington when they hit the skids. If they were in a position of financial strength, buying them, a team that ended up going out of existence instead, who had a brand new stadium, would have been a good way of slowly testing out the idea. Turning them into a feeder team would have been the first step along the road to getting Rangers into the English league. They were in the north and had a weak fanbase that was badly divided over everything. They would have been the ideal candidate.}

22 Nov 2014 23:34:58
Nick Clarke should be rangers first choice forward and Kenny Miller should me rangers forwards coach and part time striker if needed. I've watched us various times thus season both in the flesh and on TV and also watched other games and think I know exactly who we need to get rid of bring back from loan and also sign (within our small budget) and if ally can't see this he must be blind wearing sleeping eye patches with very dark sunglasses on top and the best ear muffs in the world.