Rangers Banter Archive February 20 2013

20 Feb 2013 22:42:08
@4 I think the jury is definately out on cg. Way too early to suggest he is best thing ever. Too many unanswered questions. Not saying I dislike him but won't be hailing him as our great saviour just yet.

Like the so called gers fan on the rumours page said he was unhappy with charles renting out auchenhowie to wales, as far as i'm concerned he is looking at every avenue of raising cash for the club which is more than whyte ever done, I went to see bon jovi at ibrox corporate hospitality what a great night, there should be more of these concerts at ibrox as its got a better atmostphere than hampden where I went to see ac/dc doug t. s. o

21 Feb 2013 01:21:23
Just heard about a story in the Daily record so probably not much truth in it. Apparently the top eight clubs in the SPHELL are to provide 1.4 million to the lesser clubs as part of the reconstruction plans for Scottish Football. It may just be my suspicious mind but is this not the same figure the Record reported the SPl would lose through the absence of Rangers from the league per year? Of course these fine upstanding so called guardians of our game who sprout integrity as there moral backbone would not be trying to dupe the public into believing they are doing this as part of some great reconstruction innovation, rather than admitting they are panicked by the loss of Rangers income and before there are not enough teams left for a top league to continue, are scrambling for ways to plug this gap. No surely not these stalwarts at the SFA and SPl would never do that, there integrity is beyond reproach. LOL

Ozzie Al

Wales have denied being offered murray park, and state if they had, they would have refused! why does charles green state so many lies, that are so easy to refute? ag

@2 haha, well compare that amount to the amount of money your club stole from creditors and the British tax payer and yeah you are right it is pittance!
Maybe a good start would be your club pay money to all the clubs! How does that sound? Yeah didn't think so!

Poster 3 same story as juventus weren't offered auchenhowie either and look what happened, doug t. s. o

Where did wales refute the offer?

@2. difficult to know where to start with this. your paranoia now extends to stories in the daily record you haven't even read? so the sphell clubs (as you childishly put it, though when rangers were in it it was the source of the success of the worlds most successful club) lose 1.4m or about 110,000 or 2k per week each due to no more rangers. they then compound this enormous loss by giving away the same amount to dupe the public so that they don't notice so many of them have gone bust they have no league? if you can understand that only 1 club has gone bankrupt you may save yourself from this dark fantasy.

Maybe wrong here but I
don't think there was ever
a quote from green just
papers reporting rumours
plz correct me if I'm wrong E. D

Sun reporting wales rejected our offer. didn't the daily rags also claim juventus rejected the offer. Remind me where did they train?

@2 To any young supporters on this forum, let this persons response be a lesson on what happens to rational thought when someone is obviously drinking alcohol on an empty head!

If you had done any research you would know that my club is still paying money to the other clubs and the SPHell by way of there TV deal allocation even although we are not in this league, if this did not happen there would be a great deal more in financial trouble than Inverness, hearts, Kilmarnock etc. All they are doing is giving these clubs the rangers share. Think before you ink.
@4 Couple of things first that were not clear in your response, When you made the reference to the worlds most successful club, I take it you were referring to Rangers FC? Do not see your point in the post. Just to assist your education a little, "Paranoia" is a mental illness when someone incorrectly believes someone or something it out to harm them in some way, for example, imagining that all referees and officials no matter which country in the world they come from have been bribed or deliberately act against you (Victim Consciousness). I of my own personal choice do not believe everything I read in a newspaper, unlike you obviously. This is a rationale shared by most sane people in the world today. As the first sign of paranoia is accusing others of imagined deeds I suggest you may need to contact your G. P just for a quick check up.

Ozzie Al

Sorry for the error first paragraph of my post should have read @ 4 and second paragraph @7. getting a bit tired as it is getting late over here.

Ozzie Al

@10: just like all the Rangers fans who believe all the ills are down to Lawwell? That kind of paranoia?

@1# "so called rangers fan"? How would you know the poster is not a Rangers fan? Because he disagrees with your opinion? What a pathetic blinkered view.

No 13 look at the replys and you will see not many people agree with his pathetic blinkered ( as you put it ) post, obviously your not a businessman either doug t. s. o

@14# What would being a businessman have to do with my post (13)? The post concerned the fact you dismissed the post and assumed it was a fan of another club. Why? For not being a yes man? For the record it does not matter a jot to me, income is income. Oh and Bon Jovi! really, poodle rock? dear lord.

20 Feb 2013 18:46:08
Just watched the replays of St Johnstones disallowed goal! Scorer was at least 5 yards onside! i'm sure Lennon will be compiling a DVD as we speak lol

20 Feb 2013 20:19:23
your club is imploding and still can only comment on the Celtic. lol. obsessed you bet you are

@2 posted by Timalloy a well known Celtic supporter, whose imploding?

Maybe lennon added it to his dvd he's sending to uefa demanding clarification in the situation.

The op simply asked if lennon would query such a poor decision? As for obsession. The celtic page is primarily stories about rangers. Now that's obsession.

@ 1) why are you here? can't you see the irony of your post? your on a rangers forum complaining that bears are commenting on celtic? give yourself a good shake, or get yourself back to where people actually think your rhetoric makes any sense

@5 I am on here because u keep your friends clause but u keep your old enemies closer

@5 you know why he's here - he's obsessed with everything rangers.

The sad thing was this was a story about a goal celtic conceeded - posted by a celtic fan. Then claims we are obsessed?!

You mistake laughter and general hilarity for obsession. I can't believe how, when you think the belly laughs are settling down to general hilarity, another wave of humour sets it all off again. meanwhile the gap grows.
all this is costing money you know.

21 Feb 2013 09:13:20
OP "Timalloy" as they say imitation is the best form of flattery, but must do better next time"
ED001/ED039 what is point of us putting tags if imposters post under your tag? (I also use unique code as eds requested)
No harm done this time, but in past this has caused problems. Timalloy (the REAL ONE) {Ed001's Note - I will get the account deleted and make sure it is assigned so that you can sign in using your tag as the log in password. Just leave out the space and it should be done some time today mate, if not email us using the contact form and including your identifier so we know it is you and I will get it sorted straight away.}

Quite simply nobody could be as much of a phud as you Timalloy lol. So don't worry yourself, nobody could imitate that.

That's a shame Tim, thought you'd grown a sense of humour.

20 Feb 2013 14:00:16
What has Malcolm Murray done?

It would appear he has some doubts about Mr Greens plans. Remember John Browns warnings? Long overdue Mr Green delivered some of his many promises.

Probably opposed Green because he's worried about Charles' bluster and mental statements, nnot to mention the direction the club is heading, so Green wants him out as he's a dissenting voice.

Typical dictator-esque (Nero-esque?) behaviour.

1903

@ 1 source? no just your opinion.
@ 2 enlighten us all on the direction of our club since you seem to be in the know-hows our finances and investments getting on and what stage are we at with capital spend contracts?

Charles is the best thing that's happened to us

Got to say there are some people jumping the gun a little here. Lots of personal opinion rather than fact. Seems a lot of people actually want rangers to be in financial trouble. Got to ask why? Let them get on with it absoloutly nothing to do with celtic.

To support post 4 he was the ONLY one prepared to back us and without him there would be no us. A response from the disagrees to post 4 please.
billyb

Green is the only thing that's happened to your club

Billy be - Charles Green has used Paul Murray the same way he has a lot of Rangers fans to his own end. He brought him in to win over the Gers support, hasn't carried out many of his promises there in no transparency from the board, I would be very wary of jumping on his and Traynors bandwagon. As a Rangers supporter I cannot understand how he got the club so cheaply and easily from D & P he said he had been in negotiations for months before there was no transparency there or after he got the
assets of our club, that's his style. I certainly don't trust him or his outbursts. Hope I'm wrong but beware knowing his past record.
Bobby

@6 about4. Not the best but only option available. He thought he would make a quick buck but did'nt count on 3rd div football. Now he's all pish and wind and you need us, don't think so Chuckie!

@4&6 he was the ONLY one prepared to back us
Blue Knights, Bill Ng, Bill Miller (The yank hounded out), The guy kennedy and don't forget the cardigans late bid and John Brown.

Is that a good enough reply on behalf of the Disagrees.

Ian

To 8/9/10. I don't think we are in disagreement as I trust Green as much as Murray and Whyte.
My point being: as he was prepared to accept the duff and phelps conditions of sale he was able to move us forward.
He was the only one, thus, the best for us.
As for d&p's methods, that is another argument or should I say, discussion.
billyb.

@11, He was the only one D&P would allow to buy the club. Don't forget, he was around long before he became publicly interested and D&P saw fit to exclude a number of interested parties to hand the baton to Green.
Al

@3: where is the reference to finances in #2?

To 12] Al, what I am saying is, for whatever reason Green's was the only acceptable offer to the administrator and as such we have moved forward. If others were blocked in the opportunity to buy our club, then they should state how and why. None of them have done that. Yes, it is obvious that something underhand went on, but the ' wronged ' must state their case.
billyb.

20 Feb 2013 10:00:40
ED001 as regards this boardroom fallout. From what I have read Mr Murray came with a big reputation and was highly respected in the business sections hence his appointment to help with the share issue.
Now after disagreeing with Green we are hearing stories of his "personal life" "embarrassing the club" and "fans complaining about his behaviour"
This seems like an orchestrated attempt to descredit the man. Mr Murray seldom speaks in public unlike Green who cannot keep quiet, so how has he "embarrassed" the club? Timalloy {Ed001's Note - it actually sounds more like typical opposition fan bull to me. Either that or an orchestrated campaign against the man, which seems unlikely. Green is more of a loudmouth who would shout from the rooftops if he didn't like someone. That is why I think the 'leaks' are probably just nothing more than hopeful talk from Celtic fans after two people disagreed on an issue within the boardroom. That happens every day in business, doesn't usually amount to any more than a compromise.}

Fan bull. lol Cenkos hold meeting in london of the two protagonists. FACT?

how is this fan bull?

Stories in press, celtic fans don't have that access route, we know whyte did, and so could green/jabba?

Sherrif Officers at Ibrox - just the papers printing Celtic fans fantasies

Whyte banned from being a director -just the papers printing Celtic fans fantasies

Ticketus deal - just the papers printing Celtic fans fantasies

NI/VAT/PAYE nonpayment - just the papers printing Celtic fans fantasies

Orlit treatening a winding up order, bill not paid - just the papers printing Celtic fans fantasies

I'm beginning to think that the entire history of Rangers oldco and newco is something that the papers have made up to please Celtic fans.

20 Feb 2013 11:50:03
I want to know what this 'personal conduct' is all about. Two fans complained about him. What for? I am getting more and more irate reading this. I want green out

ED 001; With respect, do you really think this is not being orchestrated by Mr Green? The link is very creditable, Jackson-Traynor-Green in Traynors old newspaper. I agree with your point about Mr Green and his "shouting from the rooftops" tactics, but in this case he has to be seen to be the victim. As for celtic fans "hopeful talk", where is the denial from Traynor? A few weeks ago he was telling all and sundry that he was watching and any inaccurate stories would be tackled head on. You might think he would be involved by now. {Ed001's Note - I am saying that it is more likely to be nothing more than a blown out of all proportion dispute. Directors fall out every day, no one ever agrees with someone else all of the time. I just think this is likely to turn out to be as nothing.}

Says in the Daily Mail - It is understood that Ibrox directors have received complaints from supporters about Murray’s personal conduct.

Now if this is just a rumour I'd have though Jabba Traynor would have responded straight away pointing out it was another example of what he was complaining about last week i. e an anti Rangers media.

But we haven't as yet heard a peep from him. {Ed001's Note - the Mail is known for its accuracy, in fact it is so accurate I wouldn't even believe the date on its pages. It is known as the Fail for good reason, it is full of lies and made up nonsense.}

Its just the daily celtic record causing trouble

You will never discover what he is alleged to have done or who complained about him because it is a story that has been created by messers Traynor and Green to discredit Mr Murray because it suits their agenda. How many complaints have there been this season from fans about McCoist and and he is still there.

Expect green will walk away with ibrox deeds in his pockets, and this is his pension.

Murray left running rangers "at a loss" and paying for hire of ibrox (£5 mill) each year.

better than dead. And Green and is backers get paid each and every year for ever.

Celtic have £9m loan in perpetuity, why can gers have one to. to our saviour?

@8 not another person to the deeds of ibrox.

I'm lost the deeds to ibrox have been owned by everyone but my granny in last 2 years, Murray, Lloyds, whyte, tickeus. Now green the list goes on, by the way who owns the Albion car park? Ha.

@2 Oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze

@4 Ed's note if that's the case why bring Celtic supporter's into the debate, it look's like you are starting to panic ed
Tam {Ed001's Note - why would I panic? It makes no odds to me, I am a Liverpool fan. I was asked my opinion and I gave it. I see it all the time with rival fans posting false stories to stir up their main rivals. I have had to block hundreds of Everton and Man Utd fans for doing it on the Liverpool site. Many Liverpool fans I have had to block for similar reasons on the Everton and Man Utd sites. It is a sad world we live in, but that is the way it is. That is why I don't even bother with twatter any more, it is full of liars and abusive knobs trying to get noticed with the most bull they can post. Same with a lot of blogs written by well known multi named liars.}