Rangers Banter Archive March 17 2017
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17 Mar 2017 22:15:33
I think every player under the new manager should be given a second chance from our fans. Big keirnan included. He was a bit of a fall guy for a previous tactic that left our centre halfs largely exposed. Andy Halliday also, who was played out of position. Pedro has spoken about finding a set up to suit the players we have and that is the sign of a good coach. Warburton (Who I did like) bought players to suit his tactic which in hindsight should have shown an inability to change. 🔴⚪🔵.
17 Mar 2017 22:52:37
That might be a step too far for some of the naysayers on here!
We have a good squad that needs some reinforcements and a style of play that suits the guys on the park as opposed to the drawing board
17 Mar 2017 23:13:49
The players you mention regularly give the ball away and usually under no pressure. That's nothing to do with tactics, being exposed or being played out of position. There is a reason why Kiernan hasn't spent too long at many clubs and as long as players like him are being picked you can forget about getting within 20 points of Celtic
17 Mar 2017 23:21:57
Wouldn't havery halliday anywhere near the side.
17 Mar 2017 23:36:50
Sorry Bengy but Brenda at Celtic disproves your theory. most of their players were shocking last season under Ronnie. this season with a couple of additions they have been transformed.
Are you suggesting that we cannot replicate that with better coaching and tactics?
18 Mar 2017 07:11:55
BR65
How do you work that out? Yeah they were that bad they still won the league comfortably. If you think Kiernan will be transformed by the new manager then your delusional and are obviously drinking the same stuff Warburton did
18 Mar 2017 07:14:25
BR65
No you can't replicate that with players like Kiernan and Halliday these guys are simply not good enough and the new manager isn't a magician.
18 Mar 2017 07:31:46
BR65 is correct and to say Celtic won the league comfortably is an exageration to say the least. Are you seriously telling me the proper coaching and tactics has nothing to do with individual player performances? Then sorry but you have a poor understanding of the game. Look at Charlie Adam for example. Played out of position in a style the never suited him and was sold for buttons, with just about every single Rangers fan sayin he was rubbish and not fit to wear our shirt. The rest is history. 🔴⚪🔵
18 Mar 2017 07:41:11
Big-ped
I would say winning the league by 15 points is comfortable and if you think it's tight then it's obvious you don't understand much. To compare Halliday to Adam is laughable. Adam performed for Rangers in the champions league and played some really good games against some top quality sides. Maybe you should also read my post again and tell me where I said proper coaching and tactics can't improve a players performance? I am saying neither Kiernan or Halliday are good enough and no matter who the coach is they will never be the required standard we need. I would have thought that was pretty simple to understand even for you
18 Mar 2017 08:06:10
There's no need to get personal. It took Celtic to the last 10 games or so to clinch the league and Aberdeen absolutley imploded. Even our team with Keirnan and Halliday and any other of our players you don't like, slaughtered them in that semi. Now they bring in a better manager with the ability to change the game tacticly and 2 new players and they pump us 5-1. I am not saying Halliday or the rest are great players but they must be given a chance under a new manager. Guys like you at the start of the season had us going for 55, now we are going for 11 new players! 🔴⚪🔵
18 Mar 2017 08:19:55
I know this is irrelavent now but if we won every game from now till the end of the season we would only be about 9 points off their total finnish last season. My point is its not all doom and gloom. Hopefully Pedro can get the best out of our players and make a few good signings. It's not a big a gap as some might have us believe 🔴⚪🔵
18 Mar 2017 08:36:00
Big_ped
Can you show me a post from me saying that we would be going for 55 at the start of the season? Think you'll find I was never a Warburton fan and have been consistent about this since last season. I took a lot abuse for this from a lot of fellow posters but I ended up being proved right.
18 Mar 2017 08:40:43
Big_ped
It took Celtic to the last 10 games to clinch the league. Your quote! 10 games that's winning the league comfortably. If it was 2 or 3 games it's tight but 10! If you don't think 33 points is a big gap then heaven help us. Also do you really think we slaughtered them in the semi? Winning on penalties when Roberts missed an open goal and Griffiths hit the woodwork twice.
18 Mar 2017 09:07:20
Considering where we have come from, yourself and many others are/ were expecting to much. I would bet my scarf you are a Ally hater and where is kings promised millions shouter. I stand by my original post and its fair comment. Now if you don't agree with it I don't care. It's all about opinions. I am entitled to mine and you yours. Now I am sorry but I have no time for people who won't stand behind our team. A new manager hopefully a better time. Get on the bus or get off at the next stop mate
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18 Mar 2017 10:22:50
Well said Big Ped! Too many supporters on here ready to slaughter our team and be proved right when we fail.
Sad trait, better to be positive and deal with disappointment when it arrives that to be constantly predicting it.
18 Mar 2017 10:31:05
"Sad trait, better to be positive and deal with disappointment when it arrives that to be constantly predicting it. "
BR65
So it was better to support Murray, Whyte, Green and co while they were in charge rather than point out their faults?
18 Mar 2017 15:14:24
The difference is this BR, Celtics under performing players last season were Internationalists who have proved themselves this season. Whereas you have a team of journeymen from Englands lower leagues who won't get any better.
18 Mar 2017 16:54:50
Kiernan is poor and just isn't good enough. Halliday has been poor this season and has no confidence and although a new manager may give him some confidence I am skeptical about if he is good enough too. Of course with better coaching and tactics players can improve I don't see anyone on here saying to the contrary however if players just aren't good enough then they aren't good enough no matter who the coach is
18 Mar 2017 17:29:33
I'm with you Big_ped! I know exactly what you're meaning and what you're getting at mate! It isn't all doom and gloom and that's coming from myself, who goes everywhere supporting glasgow rangers, just like i have done for nigh on 43 years now! I've put plenty of dough into the club i love! Shareholder, season ticket holder, boy and man!
18 Mar 2017 17:46:49
@Big_Ped
Fair play on your optimism mate. last week I thought man for man Rangers were outstanding and deserved the points. new manager. a performance like that against us. every right to be optimistic and yeah why can't Pedro turn the fortunes of players like Kiernan around!
17 Mar 2017 19:27:58
Where we go again Pedro has not even taken the team for one single game yet, and all the E&A championship mangers are selling and buying players for him. Let's just let the guy manage and see what players we have Christ he's not even met the chairman and his budget that he doesn't know about yet is spent!
17 Mar 2017 19:53:46
Was just asking if other fans knew any the players that pedro mendes has on books and could they do a job for club is this not what pages are for are just for having pop at other fans smh
17 Mar 2017 20:36:36
My goodness! I just seen a Dodoo, a rangers fan ACTUALLY talking sense.
17 Mar 2017 20:53:39
Well said Bong let's wait and see
17 Mar 2017 22:11:53
Bongo, are you bongoed?
New manager has not yet met the chairman? Bluddy hell mate, I really hope you're wrong there!?
Surely to God they have met, if you were chairman of a team, would you not like to meet the guy who you were trusting in to be in charge of matters on the pitch!?
I know I certainly!
17 Mar 2017 22:37:10
@321ron - in the paper today they plan to meet up next week. What's the issue? He's chairman, not the owner.
17 Mar 2017 23:14:31
Union Jack, the issue I am raising is, if PC and DK have not already met before now, I think it's a poor show all round and sorry to say, but a sad reflection on the way our club is being run.
DK will surely have to put his hand in his pocket during the next transfer window and splash some cash on a few much needed reinforcements.
Would you trust someone you have never met to spend your money? (granted, they will - as you informed us - meet NEXT WEEK, I was referring to the more 'here and now' and not met up, as yet)
17 Mar 2017 23:31:54
321
Fact Dave king is over next week and stefger never seen your post was reacting to the routers page know your new welcome mate you'll se what I mean in the coming weeks everybody's a scout/ coach or manager
18 Mar 2017 08:51:33
@321ron - you're not getting what I'm saying. DK doesn't own the club so decisions are not solely down to him. I'm sure he was involved in the hiring capacity but as an absentee chairman we can't hang around until he returns to the country?
As for trusting someone, considering the next transfer window is a couple of months away I'm sure that gives them plenty of time to get to know each other.
18 Mar 2017 10:11:39
Bongo, I'm not new here, been on for a few years, not posted for a while though.
I was simply raising a point, I'm not here to bicker, just want our club to be successful again and for that, we all need to pull in the same direction!
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18 Mar 2017 14:23:01
Union Jack, I do get what you are saying, all I'm saying is it's not exactly ideal that they haven't met as yet.
We are still running at a loss, so it will be DK's money that is being spent on new signings, as I don't know of/ haven't heard of other investment being pumped into Ibrox.
Settle petal, we'r on the same side! 👍🏻
18 Mar 2017 17:23:56
We are fans surely we are allowed to say players we think would be good? Surely that's not against the rules.
19 Mar 2017 00:35:50
Surely as has been stated by the club, A DOF is the man King need to discuss budgets with! Caixinha is head coach not manager as our previous regimes
17 Mar 2017 18:45:31
First time poster long time reader see pendro mendes is owner of mnm sports management long client list do any gers think we could be signing these players or are they any good ones apart from jean michael seri.
19 Mar 2017 00:44:48
I think Makaridze is a pretty good player, however, the rest are not known IMO
17 Mar 2017 17:39:18
Just listening to pedros interview there. He said a possible change of formation? I reckon we should try mckay in a cam position and see how he gets on. Thoughts bears?
17 Mar 2017 18:30:54
If mckay plays central it would nullify hyndman or holt to some extent as they wouldn't find the open spaces they have been enjoying recently and hyndman bursting from deep is a good tactic for us! i'd rather mckay hugged the touchline and looked to go beyond fullbacks and turn the backline allowing us to flood through the central areas! He needs to be told to belive in himself and just go at fullbacks everytime he gets the ball, too often he slows the attack down and makes the wrong decisions
17 Mar 2017 18:00:34
Or play on the right.
17 Mar 2017 20:30:09
Aye either flank switch it up
17 Mar 2017 21:15:38
Hyndman has excelled in the centre of midfield and Holt alongside him gives us a lot of movement and energy.
Mackay should be deployed on the left and if we change to 4-4-2 Miller and Garner upfront.
17 Mar 2017 21:50:29
Think McKay should be dropped for not having any bottle last week, we needed every man to stand up and be counted and he let his fellow players and fans down
17 Mar 2017 22:40:46
Agreed McKay has to learn to play on the pitch first before he gets a designated position
17 Mar 2017 23:17:24
Papasmurf
Thought McKay's performance was disgraceful last week wasn't interested and never tried to get involved. TBH he shouldn't make the bench tomorrow but will probably start
17 Mar 2017 23:31:00
If Pedro's looking to change the formation then MacKay playing the number 10 position could be a shout.
18 Mar 2017 16:18:12
McKay is never a no. 10 no bottle and should be dropped not rewarded for being a coward who picks and chooses his games like today probably
19 Mar 2017 00:50:24
Mckay should be dropped! seriously! get a grip folks!
Yes he inconsistent! as all wingers or flair players are (laudrup and Gascoigne exempt! obviously) but this boy is our outball, the guy that other teams plan to stop! allowing other player to excel! Hyndman is the one I can think of who is clever enough to take advantage of that! Even when Mckay is being marked/ watched by 2 players even 2/ 3 times in a game he will elude/ rip the preverbial out of them!
drop him! pah! fickle folks
19 Mar 2017 01:32:25
I agree with me!
17 Mar 2017 16:34:27
Is there any bear friendly bars in Prague that show the games?
17 Mar 2017 17:07:03
you won't get a Bears bar . Nearest you'll get is a sports bar.
17 Mar 2017 18:47:24
Was speaking to the guy with the dancing bear in Prague square, suggested to him that he should take it round the bars as he would make a fortune.
he said Some bars allow dogs in, but there are no bear friendly bars.
suggest you go to Prague yourself and leave the bear in the house.
hope this helps.
17 Mar 2017 19:49:15
Bennybhoy67
Was that an attempt at humour?
17 Mar 2017 20:54:21
Thought that was funny lol
17 Mar 2017 23:03:29
no Bengy25 I was being serious.
the guy said, the bad behaviour in the bars off the big blue nose bear, (before they became extinct) totally fecked it up for the rest of them.
Honestly you couldn't make that up.
17 Mar 2017 23:19:12
Cee
Not surprised you found it funny after all you backed Warburton for so long so your clearly easily pleased. You would probably find Terry and June funny
18 Mar 2017 17:26:16
Yes, I backed Warburton he was our manager! You're probably already got a pedro out flag because he's not a rangers man. Your probably one of they fans who boo when we are a goal up.
19 Mar 2017 00:53:54
CEE, your right! it gave me a chuckle too! seems that some folks think of who folks support before deciding if humour is applicable! I'm afraid Cee seems to not just be a blind sheep! respect Cee!
17 Mar 2017 10:10:44
The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Miller as a player/ coach. He shows many of the attributes needed.
Gives it 110% every match, is passionate about the club, knows the club/ players, knows the Scottish game.
He would make a great conduit to pass ideas and opinions between the players and the management.
17 Mar 2017 11:32:22
We will just have to wait (again) to see if Pedro can succeed where others have failed us.
17 Mar 2017 12:01:02
The new managers requirements for the role were.
Someone who is familiar with the club, has a history with the club, and ideally you'd think would be considered a legend.
Someone who knows what to expect from the opposition. What to expect when going to opposition grounds etc.
Why not just move Jim Stewart in to that role.
He fits into all the requirements the manager laid out.
17 Mar 2017 12:39:21
Why is Jim Stewart considered that good?
17 Mar 2017 15:39:42
I fully respect Jim Stewart as a Rangers man, coach and most importantly a good man. But he is 63, surely that is pretty much past the shelf life of a gk coach?
The club is now going in a different direction so let's embrace it and see where Pedro can take us
17 Mar 2017 16:46:29
pedro has an assistant, fitness coach and goalkeeping coach that have been with him at the past few clubs he's been at, so Jim Stewart must of been expecting it if he was smart at all
17 Mar 2017 17:11:20
The amount of goals big Wes has lost at near post I think he was right to let Jim go
17 Mar 2017 17:13:39
Barry ferguson is the overwhelming favourite 2 be appointed the new no.3,scottish/ local coach, to work under our new manager, pedro caixinha! Barry has a lot of support within our directors! He's very well thought of, at ibrox, although the final decision lies with caixinha. We'll find out for defo, which candidate has been successful, sometime next week!
17 Mar 2017 17:19:12
You lot talking about Jim Stewart who was retiring in the summer.
19 Mar 2017 00:58:17
Yip Cee, seems to be the very same Stewart had stated he was retiring so y is it a surprise then that our new head coach wants to appoint someone now rather than wait!
Stewart has been a fine coach for us tho, and I wish him well and a peaceful retirement! enjoy
17 Mar 2017 10:05:27
"Former Rangers boss Mark Warburton says he left Ibrox club in a 'very good position'"
'Very good position' is obviously code for 'with a squad of English lower league rejects with no sell-on value on big wages, who were signed to line my daughter's pocket. '.
17 Mar 2017 10:12:44
I feel very sorry for Nottingham forrest. they are a good side with good players, Warburtons tactics will see them relegated sadly.
17 Mar 2017 11:33:42
Good position? What are we supposed to do with kiernan, haliday and many other rejects? Cost us money to release them, even delboy wouldn't buy them and he's a sucker for fake goods.
17 Mar 2017 14:30:30
my god. he must be deluded. a european points record behind celtic never mind a scottish one. is he completely insane
17 Mar 2017 15:09:56
He always was ignorant, and he was always right . He believed all the yarns he spun to the press near the end, god help the forest fans
17 Mar 2017 17:02:20
Forest are absolutely terrible and have a handful of okay players lol!
19 Mar 2017 01:07:21
One good player remains at forest "Britt assombalonga" warbs will no doubt play him RW or DM! Any manger who pre plans substitutions before a game instead of making them on merit throws up discusion to say the least! I will never understand that philosophy! at the end of the day its 11 guys v 11 guys and on any day 11 guys can beat another 11 guys talent can be irrelevent! so surely if a game is requiring let's say a forrester type play then that's what u intoduce! not someone else just because pre game u had decided that was right!
The best managers in history had instincts to change a game with their changes! Ferguson, Capello, Del Bosque, Redknapp, Mournho even Smith and Burns had that!