Rangers Banter Archive December 16 2014

16 Dec 2014 22:23:52
First post on here. I've read the site for a while though and seeen there are some guys that have supported rangers all thiier life but I've only beenable to go to every game for about 6-7years as growing up with my family who where not really football fans but when I started hoing with mates I regret all those years rangers where not in my liffe. But after all the carry on I have joined so many bears in stop attending games starting from this saturday i'm only 18 but have a son that I want and have vrung up in hiss one and a half yearshere as a bluenosse and I want him to have a rangers to be proud of but I cannot sit watching ally look clueless on thatt touchline anymore i'm dreading saturday not being at my1st game in 7years but I feel until ally is gone nothing will start to change. I also think ashleu is what is keeping us alive and think he could be a major game player in chasing the board out including the easdales but ally needs to go.

{Ed039's Note - welcome to the site)

Super lee 6 I also said further down the page that I think if it wasn't for Ashley we would be in admin2, but the problem most have with Ashley is, he was brought to our club by Charles green, as we're the easdales, I seen elsewhere that the faceless investors are Ahmed, green, and the easdales, apart from that mike Ashley won't tell any of us his plans, so why not, is he hiding something or someone, I think that is the reason he is not liked by a lot of our support.

Super lee 6, Enjoy what you can about being a bluenose. Although recently there has not been much to enjoy, you've obviously got the bug. Hopefully, there are better times around the corner and I'm sure your wee man will get as much pleasure as you do.
Ashley, imo, is gaining support amongst us, although I agree with George123 that anything Green touched is tainted. However, I don't think he will ever open up about his intentions and as long as he gives us a solid base, who cares.
I'm a great believer that the best business deals are actioned first and talked about second.

I also think everything touched by green is tainted but I think ashley only has one way to make money from rangers and that's a successful rangers. Might be being to optomistic here but all that's happened to the club since ashley came in has been good as in graham wallace leaving and ally putting his notice in and if ally gets payd off after the meeting today I syspect it would be ashley that's put the money up for it as he needs a full ibrox. All ashley needs to do to get most fans on board is chase the easdales n tell us his plan. i'm fes up waiting for king and all his money he has hi tthink only hope we have is a real buisness man in ashley.

Also ashley has no loyalty and he's bringing his own people on board so I think if ashley gets a chance he would turn on the easdales.

Super lee6. If Ashley was to let the supporters know was behind these faceless shareholders he could get all bears on side, unless these secret men are, green, Ahmed, easdales, and they are the people IDE put a bet on being the secret agents, sshhh

16 Dec 2014 18:06:01
now all the hoo hah is over we must let the board get on with getting some one place I would not like to see either terry butcher or billy davis get the job ithink there are many good candidates out there and does not need to be a former player but a wee bit of maybe a game winning move offer the hearts management team the jobs mibbes aye mibbes naw just a thought

16 Dec 2014 16:52:58
Guys,
I know we are in a mess but look at the 15 point lead we squandered before Admin, Whyte gambled on Rangers getting into the Champions League as expected, when we failed his plan was goosed, but our football and tactics were shocking, signings included, the buck stops at the manager, Ally was a great Rangers player - I am 49 years old - so was John Greig, doesn't make them a great manager, I think Ally should come to an agreement and go now, notice periods are not a recipe for success in any business, we need new ideas and a new outlook asap not a protracted period with Ally's pals on board! You may not like my post but it's 100% correct for our club,

If we can get a manager who tactically aware and a good man manager hearts have so far had no injuries or suspensions to speak of we have some decent players who with some coaching etc will improve and don't forget hearts sometime this season will have stutter in form and loose a couple of games so far they have had all the breaks but that will not last all season

My dad's just turned 80 and has followed Rangers all his life, he isn't into all the boardroom politics etc etc, he just wants to watch the football, he reared me with stories of Baxter, Caldow Miller, Brand and so on, With me working and living down in England I don't get up as much as I'd like to but each year I buy my Dad's season ticket for just behind the home dugout in the east enclosure, he left after 25 minutes of one game earlier on the season and has not been back to Ibrox since, when I asked him why, he says it's because he cannot bear to watch the football being played under Ally McCoist, now that's coming from a man who has been to thousands of games good and bad in his life, it break's not only his heart but mine too as I know it's hurting him so much, I just hope he lives to see his beloved Rangers back where they belong and playing a decent standard of football, but is adamant he will not go again while McCoist is in charge. He's not the only one.

@bIgwull

"Hearts have so far had no injuries or suspensions to speak of "
"Hearts have had all the breaks"

Do me a favour. Have they not just spent several weeks without several first choice players and ground out the required results? Oh, and one of the teams they beat in that period. Rangers.

16 Dec 2014 09:47:13
Those calling ally by some of the most vile comments on here should have a read at the union of fans statement on the subject.
r. f

Rf, I've read the statement and it shows how non-representative the uof appear to be. I don't think I have said anything about him that was vile and my only attack was regarding his ability as a manager and his remuneration.
On a personal note wish your auld man, all the best with his health, from someone who is well aware of what he is going through.

16 Dec 2014 12:47:09
I would say vile is the wrong word to use here,for my part any name calling has been borne of sheer frustration.I don't think for a minute any of the eds would permit "vile" names to print.I stand by my comments 100 percent.

Rf
Totally agree with the statement - some people should be ashamed of the comments made on this forum against our manager. Have no issue with people critiquing footballing matters however some of the abuse over being greedy and a money grabber is wide of the mark. We need to all remember who is destroying our club. Chase the board

I have made no vile comments about him I have heavily commented on his managerial ability and his greed but definetly never made vile statements

16 Dec 2014 01:20:57
Hi, I check this website every few days to see what the rumours / opinions are. I haven't commented for a while but just thought I'd give my view.
I am confused by one or two comments on here suggesting Mike Ashley wants administration 2 to happen. I have no idea why people would think he would want this? As he is the one who is owed money, so his money would be wiped out! And when it came to coming out of admin 2 he still wouldn't be allowed to own more than 10%, unless spl rules change. if I am missing something please explain why he would want it, other than to get rights to badges and change some deals.
I have never had a bad word to say about ally, but I think the majority of people weren't over the moon when they announced he would take over Walter. He is too much of a nice guy and you need to put some fear into the players sometimes. And over the last few years I have backed him as I didn't think any half decent manager would consider coming to rangers when we are in the shambles of a state that we have been in for the last few years. But even now I am sick of watching this terrible football. And I think there would have been a chance of ally to get better if he brought in someone to coach who was more experienced and knew about defending. But it's too late now. and the board won't be hiring any additional staff anyway.
in terms of a new manager, I hope there is a complete overhaul. Try and keep away from butcher, mccall, gattuso, wise and davies. I think there will be a similar type of football in the end.
I would love to see a young Scottish coach like Ian Cathro come in, although I am unsure how the experienced players would react to it. And bring in some experienced back room staff, like Davie weir (not that much experience yet) and possibly some other older experienced coach.
then aim to get a football operations officer, or general manager in there.
this would be a major overhaul, but it's realistically not going to happen.
we will end up with mccall and continue the way we are, watching terrible football every week.
over the last few years, every rangers fan is done their best to stand by the club, but when you see the money grabbers (polite thing to call them as I can't type what they are without it being censored) come into your club, take take and take again and still expect that we will like them on the end. It rips your heart to shreds to think that this is never going to end, and I don't see an end in sight. Ashley is only getting started. To be honest he is the least corrupt out of them all as it seems everything is legal, but the deals which green struck with him were disgraceful.
I will continue my monthly payment to the rangers fund and when the black and red top is back in stock in XL I will be buying that. And I hope one day rangers will be owned by the fans and we will get what we want a deserve, but I don't see that happening for a few years yet, and we would have to get people to agree to sell their shares!

16 Dec 2014 10:56:08
Cbeattie, good intelligent post. I agree Ashley is no crook. He is a hard nosed business man. I can't see why the Newcastle fans hate him? He has put his money in and runs a good club who make a profit! How good is that! Just one point about admin 2. His loans are secure loans against the properties, so in effect admin won't affect him. He currently "owns" those properties. At present they don't belong to Rangers. If he is not repaid, he can sell them and retain all of the money even if it would be in excess of the £3mill. The properties are signed over to his company.

Cbeattie @johhny mac u got it on the money I can't beleive how so many loyal bears can't see the wood for the trees