Rangers Banter Archive May 15 2013

15 May 2013 14:37:35
We all know by now that clubs in the lower leagues are only allowed 22 players aged 21 and over in their squad and that (by my reckoning)Rangers have one slot to fill but with the two loanees still to return. This would mean that one "experienced player must leave, plus one for every new signing over 21 years old. Bearing in mind the registration embargo and how it will affect restrict the use of any new signing, what would be the squad that fans would like in place for the strart of the season.

Paddy Malarkey

Just out of intrest. are players signed on a pre-contract, still eligible to play as triallists, for the rangers, or any other club in the sfl, for that matter? DD

15 May 2013 17:32:42
First pick for next season. Bell, Darren Cole, Cathcart, mculloch, Wallace, temps, McLeod, law, McKay, daly, little.

I thought McGregor, Davis, lafferty etc were all in rangers 22 players last year because green said they were still on rangers books.

Well by your reckoning your wrong lol.
Mcgregor, whittaker, lafferty, davis, sandaza and kyle were part of the 22. Not to mention the likely departure of alexander. that's 7 spaces.

TH, the current squad should easily be good enough to win the 2nd division. all that is needed is a better manager and coaches that know what they are doing!

N1 as far as we are told anybody rangers are looking to sign can play as trialist I posted cause I noticed your post ain't been answered youve waited a while for an answer eh tmwnn

Interesting team no2. looking at it. cole at rb, no he will prob be injured again but I would put mitchell in there, cathcart has signed on at blackpool so not happening, mckay won't be fit for start of season so some tweeking to be done there me thinks. BT

16 May 2013 10:03:52
You're wrong @4. They came off the books when they registered for other teams. can't be regisyeted for two teams at same time. More blind optimism.

@8 they might have come off the books but no one replaced them in the 22 so we have plenty of spaces for new players.

15 May 2013 10:52:06
If you want a good laugh go to Jambos Kickback, they are all talking about The Sun allegations. Its all "kick us when we`re down, naming the 4 clubs, boycotts, nobody likes us etc. " They were one of the first to stick the boot intae us, now its happening to them and they dinnae like it. I`m off for mair laughs

As they say, what comes around, go`s around!

Got to be honest mate, I wouldn't wish what has happened to us on any ordinary punter. The Jambos have been shafted by the moneymen just like we have.
I also don't think we are in any position to gloat given our current cloak and dagger situation.
Better off sticking to sorting our own issues than being sidetracked chuckling at the misfortune of others.
New Rangers, new attitude and new friends in football. Us supporters need to look at the bigger picture.

Baybear you are quite right, however a bit of lite relief does no harm now and again.
Having read many posts on here stating we need to sort ourselves out and get rid of the sugar daddy attitude, I find that as each day passes I agree more and more with those writing them.
So solution time:- we should all buy shares, as many as we can afford depending on our budget, then we should give our vote by proxy to the RST, that is you still own the shares but they amass them and vote on our behalf!
This is something I posted some time ago suggesting that supporters buses get involved by doing their usual whip around every game and turning the cash raised into shares.
The RST would become fully representative of the whole fan base.
The idea is being banded about on some blogs and I believe we should embrace it.
Then we can moan as share holders and make a real contribution to our club- as one voice can be lost many voices will be heard, especially if they own shares!
So time for some action or do we just keep going round in circles when we have the power to change our future? Eastbear

Well Said Bayear!

Bluegenius!

@2. I am with you. What good is it to the future of Scottish football if we want fans of other teams to go through what we have. Its time to grow up and show that we are the best fans. Our intial year by the fans standard has brought world wide reviews, let's build on it.

@3 Fair enough Eastbear. I like a bit of banter like the rest as long as it's free of venom.
As for your shares idea, very interesting and a lot better than simply bumping our gums on here.
What's your take on using ST money to buy shares and then paying on the gate? Agree we need to use what power we have to retain some control of our destiny.

@5- totally mate, our loyalty in adversity has been both incredible and inspiring. let's not let ourselves down now.

Only if the RST office bearers can be voted in and out democratically by those offering the share proxy.

Totally agree with Bayear's post and Bluegenuis's endorsement of it.

As a football fan, I believe it's a two way street, we support our respective clubs but they should also be supporting us, in terms of information and recognition for the job we do as fans.

Now's not the time for fans to be turning on fans, let's support each other. It doesn't have to affect our rivalry between each other. I'll happilly scream and shout and hope we hammer you when we're playing you, but I'll do anything that I can do to make sure you're still there so that I can scream and shout when we play you (and go for a pint with some of you afterwards).

I like the new attitude that's beginning to prevail on these boards, and I sincerely hope that you and your club are back in the SPL as soon as possible.

There's people following all our teams, it's our job to make sure they're not the loudest voice!

I wouldn't question the loyalty shown, but have not one ounce of credibility, Wheres the cash too pay john daly, ian black, lee Wallace, mculloch etc on big salaries, along with mcoists 1million or so a year& his 350 grand for winning the 3rd div. totally absurd. & all this whilst there's chaos behind the scenes, losing 1 million a month, internal investigations, title deeds, whyye greene, time the TRUTH was outed, as the loyal fans are again about to be screwed over by the charlatan Fagan types. sm

Hi Baybear that idea of using ST money has some merit.
Firstly it would allow an immediate cash injection into share purchases that would go along way to taking control of our club back.
Secondly it would be affordable to most as they would have spent the money on ST anyway, paying at gate would keep the club going while we got organised!
Oh for a leader to organise such a move! Eastbear
PS The RST would need people like you Baybear to help this along!

The last thing this board want is a united support that are straight forward, transparent and looking to rid the club of dark the ages mentality, they certainly don't want the club to run on an even keel! Their only intention is to direct clean money into their pockets, and ladle the club with debt so that WE are paralyzed, divided, and inept of a secure viable long term vision. They don't kill the Goose that lays the golden egg, they just milk it dry!

Their master stroke was to buy our assets for a measly 5mill, meaning they have nothing to loose. Are the pledges in the share issue just a guarantee to cover a credit facility running the club into huge debt like sdm did? Knowing that the assets are worth so much more they could pull the plug at will, and still be quids in. They don't give a sh#t about the club.

Love this idea about pay per game and keeping the st money ready to buy up shares? Somebody mentioned a couple of weeks ago that withdrawing st money would cause the share price to plummet, interesting!

Its all a bit heady stuff to me, but I think we are really being stitched up, the silence is deafening. We really have to ask ourselves what kind of Rangers do we have, and what kind of Rangers do we want. It's a no brainer for me.

Aye Ready

Sorry OP, got carried away there, my reply summed up how I feel about a lot of clubs at the moment, not just Rangers. So many clubs are in a mess right now due to the Rattle snakes suits, they are killing our game and the supporters are paying the price for their loyalty, it's all wrong. The governing bodies need to enforce more protection for the supporters instead of just lining their own pockets.

Aye Ready

Aye Ready- Very well put mate, wholeheartedly agree

15 May 2013 09:00:46
so rangers running up debts on a monthly basis which they can't afford, will go bust by summer time, share issue didn't bring in as much as they claim? has any of these rumours been proved to be true, no increase in season tckt prices, surely if this is all true, the 1st thing to do is increase season tckt prices to help cut debts, all thses rumours proving to be a myth, as someone once said, don't believe the hype!

The SB prices staying the same don't prove a thing either way.

We know what the running costs are, those salaries are in public domain.

We know how much Ranger's made fom the IPO, also public knowledge.

We also know how much gate money they have taken in, also public knowledge.

It's up the board to prove to US that we're not skint, not the other way around.

But head inthe sand if you want to throw your money away. I'm sure Chuckles needs a new swimming pool or something.

The price freeze might be down to one thing. A cash injection is needed right now. it does not alter the fact that questions need to be asked. No income till the season starts remember.

People are already threatening not to renew STs. The board know this and know that raising prices probably would have made a lot of peoples' minds up for them. I'm sure most fans will renew once the board answers all the fan questions and there is a greater level of transparency about the current state of affairs.

@3. Exactly my stance, transparency and simple questions answered will do for me. I'd even pay more for my ST if I get this as I love my club.
Somehow, this stance makes me not a true Rangers supporter to some. Head in the sand right enough.

I know the prices for next season have been published but have the renewals actually gone out?

@5 Not as far as I can tell. Not recieved mine anyway. They'll be reading the forums to try and gauge what kind of response they'll get. Maybe that's what Traynor is doing just now. Sitting in a wee dark room with his laptop trying to influence us with his crass attempt at positive spin.

5. Not heard anything yet, I think they might wait till the independent inquiry tell us all there's nothing amiss at Ibrox (well they're not going to tell us otherwise are they?) and then we'll hear.