15 May 2016 14:37:22
Having a look at the Rangers media pages talking about the possible signing of Joey Barton, some two faced garbage being spouted, and the high horse mentality i hate from Rangers fans, we have had some players who have let us down with their antics over the years, let's cut the guy some slack, the management team will deal with that, he will add some steel to our midfield, and that's what we lack. I think most of the posts come from guys below the age of 30, who don't have the memories of the pre Souness era. Rangers first, last and always.
15 May 2016 16:11:06
The guys a thug, I don't know how many Rangers players have ever randomly knocked wee boys out at night clubs but you must know different or maybe it's because I'm younger than 30?
With reference to that assault here is a quote: Sentencing him to six months in jail, Judge Henry Globe QC said it was a "violent and cowardly act"
Fair one he might be a different character now and I would give him a go.
You can't sit and say people have a high horse mentality for having formed an opinion around history, that's human nature.
Also, your post sounds very ironic. Just because some people don't predate the 80's doesn't make them less informed of past players antics so come down from your high horse and let people have an opinion that's different to yours.
15 May 2016 16:23:48
Ref Ratbob, his previous antics were when he was a young cocksure footballer, i do not condone his past antics. my point is, Diouf, Fergie, Gazza, all flawed players, who properly handled did the job, god bless him even Fernando Rickson. My point about age was not to patronise supporters, but the last 3 years reminded me of the early 80's when we were dreadful, we need to be forward thinking and positive, as we have a dynamic manager, who has a vision, without the scattergun approach to finance. We are still rebuilding our graet club, and unity and solidarity are the watchwords, we have enough enemies, the press, and nearly every club in Scotland who wanted us dead. My love, my passion is Rangers, always will be, i respect all arguments and points of view, but some people really do frustrate me. All the best Rafrob, a fellow bluenose who's opinion i respect,
15 May 2016 16:25:42
Barron's just a product is of his environment. He had a tough upbringing and ended up a millionaire Footballer, he seems to have calmed down a lot though. Who are we to judge, let's just let the guy get on with his football.
In terms of playing wise he'll be the best in the league by a long way in my opinion.
15 May 2016 16:57:54
For enough safetyman, I only respond in a manner I thought was a valid response so don't take it personally.
I agree about the long line of snakes at our door and definitely see the points made about past players.
As I said, I would give him a go as I rate his football quality, however he has a less than desirable past and that takes time to gloss over.
Recbob, that's a valid point and one I agree with but also a massive point of argument when you look at people who grow up in worse and become doctors, lawyers etc. Without knocking folk out.
15 May 2016 18:49:23
Look at his brother who grew up in the same setting, serving life for murder. Barton has done well for himself getting out of that life and being a EPL player most of his career. Yes he has had his troubles, but it's all quite minor in comparison. Loads of players have been charged with assault, it happens they are only human.
15 May 2016 20:01:47
He isn't the first player we might sign with problems and won't be the last.
15 May 2016 15:25:42
Great to hear from a Rangers man who knows the story of our club since Marlborough days, Barton would be sensational signing, if it happens.
15 May 2016 19:55:54
His brother, a racist, murdered a black lad because he had a white girlfriend.
Don't see how that is situational growth.?
Anyway, I agree that where you come from moulds the person you become. I disagree that it means if you live near junkies you become one.
On Barton, I think he's a good player that has a colourful past that Scottish media will love to bang on about that's all.
15 May 2016 21:25:36
I don't buy the he might be a reformed character argument. Even if he is, he's carrying a shed-load of baggage that impacts the reputation of the club at a time when it's just getting out of an all time low.
In no particular order of horror: stubbing out a cigar on a team mates face, slagging off team mates publicly, doing time, assaults, affray, violent conduct, alcoholism, a bit too handy on social media. Is he that good a footballer that we can ignore these aspects of his character and take a risk by bringing him to Rangers?
In Warburton's defence he's forgotten more about talent spotting than I'll ever know and he will have a high degree of insight into Barton's current character.
But I can't reconcile those who want us to have high standards, talk about class then get frothy at the gusset over a man who, had he gone to any other team in Scotland, we'd be absolutely slating him/ them.
If he signs - I hope I'm incorrect!