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18 Jun 2013 16:44:04
East Fife are to hold signing talks with Nacho Novo

1.) 18 Jun 2013 19:25:38
At last, he's found his level. Or do you think he still has ambitions for getting in to the spain team?

18 Jun 2013 11:30:11
It will be a little strange when Scotland's biggest team is playing her third biggest team in division one (or whatever the second tier is badged as) the season after next. Folk from around the world will be doing a bit of head scratching if they check our results- only in Scotland eh!

1.) Aye, only in Scotland could we have two of it's biggest clubs mire themselves so deep in debt that they expire with an inability to pay. Mind you, Hearts aren't dead, yet.

LLSTMF

18 Jun 2013 11:27:20
Welcome back to the most successful club steven smith

1.) Another awful signing in McCoists on going clamour to get bodies in, still he'll be company for Daly on the treatment table. Why do we need so many players to play in a mickey mouse league? and, how can we afford this? I am beginning to think these signings are a rouse to sell STs instead of addressing the real issues Ticketus, Whyte, Green, Ahmed, Sevco etc etc and who owns Ibrox of course, we need answers and still not a word from McCoist or Smith except trying to part us from our money.

18 Jun 2013 11:02:38
OMG Stevie Smith. Unemployed for a year and did nothing in the lower ranks since leaving Rangers. It'll be div3 football next year for sure. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

18 Jun 2013 10:35:31
to all those that say they hope hearts get treated as badly as rangers were. c'mon it wasnt the hearts team or fans that done us wrong (tho romanov wasnt slow to put the boot. in. all things come to pass)

anyone with any sense knows rangers were singled out, mistreated, it would never have happened to any other club. we all know there was an agenda with rangers driven through jealousy, hatred and bigotry. let's not kid ourselves. I said at the time at least three spl clubs would be bust due to rangers being out the picture, by the time we get back to spl. and the second season we would see the impact foolishness of these decisions, and so it is coming true. no other country would have been daft enough, whatever the situation, to treat there largest club the way rangers were treated.

BUT let's face it with the points deduction, lack of players, the chances are that they will be relegated to first division. with us winning second division, that means after next year in the first division you will have the biggest club, and the third biggest club in scotland playing in division one. meaning bigger games than the spl have that season.!

1.) I have little sympathy for hearts fans. I have taken a lot of stick from hearts fans I know, but what really pissed me of was after being called cheats, being accused of not paying bills, poor creditors ect. I read that one high profile hearts fan declaring that they might have dodged a bullet with the two Lithuanian companies being liquidated that it might mean hearts don't have to pay a penny. I find this statement completely stupid and two faced, but that's mp's for you.

Blueice

2.) Maybe next year will also see the Arsenal and LA Galaxy games as opposed to FC Emmen!

3.) "treated as badly as rangers were. " Get a grip. Until fan's realise that Rangers went bust a year ago there will be no moving one. Many SPL teams were in a dire financial state a year ago. It's really sad when Rangers fans take credit for their downfall. If you think about it, these teams voted not to allow a new debt-free The Rangers to the top flight, even though they knew it would be a further nail in their coffin. That may make them stupid, but does show integrity.

4.) Lol, somebody using the word "integrity" about scottish football, "get a grip"!

5.) No 4 - what would your answer be to integrity then?
Allow a "busted flush" to remain in the league, everyone roll over, pretend it didn't happen, yeah?
Wipe out the debt, start as a new entity and start spending way more than being brought in but just in the SPL and not lower divisions as is happenin now

6.) @3.
"That may make themstupid, but does show integrity"
You haven't a clue what went on mate! Every single SPL chairman wanted Rangers to remain in SPL. It was their fans who pessured them into a non decision, then they crapped out of it, and papped it onto the SFL clubs. Those fans had no idea of the financial implications. Integrity my anagram of EARS!
P. O. B.

7.) The biggest club in Scotland, lol. that's Celtic FC my friend and you and everyone else knows it. Keep telling yourself that and you might start believing it. Men with white coats on the way. martyc1888

18 Jun 2013 09:52:54
Rangers have announced the signing of steven smith this morning on a 2 year contract

18 Jun 2013 09:30:36
what has happened to blackthorn and when is the strip out

1.) Supposedly the new kit is being released at the end of July

2.) Blackthorn deal gone DRY

18 Jun 2013 08:54:21
I stay in Arbroath. I work in Aberdeen. I have been a season ticket holder for about 8 years. The Sunday games really messed up my weekend, but I managed most if early enough.

Now I see they are talking about Friday night games. How am I supposed to get to them from Aberdeen on a Friday?

I know the club needs money, but the travelling fans are finding it more and more difficult to attend.

On a separate note - what have we done to improve the youth coaching this season? Hopefully some benifits once 2-3 seasons back in the SPL? Or have we done nothing?

VTH

1.) Appreciate your dilemma but don't put the blame on the club - we don't have a vote on any of this as we're still an associate club, this is forced on us by the SPFL

JMG

2.) Mate I know it is a pain but I drove to that S***HOLE in north for 5 years as kids were up there and it take tops 2 hours and you can do in 90 mins so finishing at 4 as most do on a friday these days you have plenty of time. people coming from ulster and London have far bigger shout. george

3.) Vth you need to take that up with the spfl, you can't blame rangers for this one,

On the youth set up, I think we saw enough youngsters in the first team last season to know that it is not as bad as it is being made out to be

Jg

4.) In VTH defence depending on what side of Aberdeen you work (e. g Bridge of Don ) it can take you 50 mins + to get over the Dee onto the main drag and then the speed cameras it would be tight to catch the kick off IMO
SCM

5.) None the youth will be near the team this year look at the signings old pros etc

17 Jun 2013 22:23:39
This time last year the USP unique selling point for season tickets was the TV broadcast of Charles green promise one season ticket would get a fan a vote on one of three names for Murray park.
No votes were given and MP is still named after the worst owner in the club's history.
Can someone tell me why MP is not being renamed? And why people seem happy to have been duped and conned by Green?

1.) Murray is our worst owner?
how so?

2.) Why is he the worst chairman
in the clubs history?
Please don't cite the big tax
case as that went in clubs favour
billy h

3.) The worst owner rubbish if it essentially for DM you wouldn't have had all the successes in the last years he built rangers up when crowds of about5000

4.) Do you think you have been lied too, where are the hero, s double act smith and mccoist ther silence is deafening is that ther super power, what a shambles you are still in, do something about it it is getting a national joke, but can I ask will the rangers flags be in the England side at wembley as they have been the last few times

5.) David holmes built up the crowds by bringing in souness who then brought in class players from england. holmes and souness started the reveloution. it was souness who brought murray to ibrox if anything. murray the great mith of rangers f. c

6.) He (allegidly) didn't put a penny of his own money in mate! Borrowed from the bank, moved money around to keep MIH afloat, back into RFC again then repeated the process. His borrowing got too much and hence when the banks merger occurred they wanted their cash back. Sir DM then transferred his majority shareholding to none other than Craig Shyte for a £1. And don't think for a minute DM was hoodwinked by him either! He knew who he was giving the club to. So yes, DM is very much responsible for the start of the demise of RFC, and in my eyes he isn't the worst owner, but second to CW. So Billy go away and stop spouting total rubbish!

7.) Little touch of in-fighting, oh the comedy just gets better.

8.) #5. Well said. A lot of younger fans who go on about our history are still ignorant of the role David Holmes played in revitalizing the club.

As for Murray, the fact that he sold the club for a pound shows the state the club had sunk to under his stewardship. And claiming to have been duped by Whyte really lacks a shred of credibility. As for the Big Tax case, who's to say HMRC won't win their appeal?

And yes, I have changed my opinion of the man in recent years. At the time I wrongly thought he was the best thing that had ever happened to us.

9.) SDM was the worst EBT beneficiary pocketing a cool £6m offshore tax free. Buying vineyards and stuff, i'm sure he had an apartment in Monaco. He took out the club huge amounts. Regardless of the answers above (out of ibrox/ Charlotte?) why isn't it renamed as promised? Are folks ok about being lied to?

10.) Op are you seriously telling us that 38000 bears bought tickets because they thought they were getting a chance to rename a training ground, don't think so

Jg

17 Jun 2013 19:04:37
Hearts to enter administration so hopefully we can grab Danny Wilson. All the same, wish the hearts lads all the best and in particular to John Wilson. Cheers big man (Carstorphine Rubies). PC Loyal Strathaven

1.) Is Carstorphine in Edinburgh?

17 Jun 2013 17:40:07
tv reporting Hearts going into administration

I wonder if they will be subjected to the bile we were subjected to.

I wonder if HMRC will accept any CVA as they do not accept CVAs from football clubs.

I wonder if there will be the utter desire for "sporting integrity" and they will suffer what we did.

I wonder if liquidation is the final outcome, as it surely will, if they are put in div three

I wonder if they will be accused of everything under the sun as we were and still are

I wonder if the local newsagents and face painters will be given the same sympathy they were last year

I wonder if tv are planning reveal all programmes on Romanov

I wonder if there will be numerous leaks from HMRC

I wonder if several sites will appear making lies and spreading rumour after rumour.

I have my doubts.

1.) You forgot the illegal transfer embargo and the complaints made to the ASA.

Just in case anyone from the east end missed the ruling, we are still SCOTLANDS MOST SUCCESSFUL TEAM. PB

2.) I wonder if you're paranoid, OP.

3.) Your post has quite a venomous tone and u can't draw too many comparisons between what happened to Rangers and what may happen to Hearts. It's a sad situation for the club and any Rangers fan taking satisfaction from this is just as bad as the people who took great delight from our demise

4.) All of the above should happen except from 1. Or is it a conspiracy and paranoia?

Administration will still see hearts play in SPL. The Rangers had no choice and knew they would be better off long term "liquidated" which resulted in applying to play in div 3.
You don't just "get put" in div 3
If hearts go down the same route then they too will have to re aply.

5.) I wonder if a certain manager will be saying ( youl wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with pepsodent ) an old tv ad from the past doug t. s. o

6.) Your 100% right mate, scotlands top league can't afford to lose hearts, no glasgow derby then possibly no edinburgh derby. what sponser or tv company would pay for that, watch out for a cover up and rule bending to keep them up, hope rangers legal team are watching closely!

7.) HMRC are in the minority of creditors here. 90% of hearts debt is to Romanov & Ukio bank.
HMRC are only owed £450,000. and will have little say in accepting a CVA

8.) Mate let it go. let's leave the bitterness and hatred behind. I saw a new young breed of fans at Ibrox last year. let's not corrupt their minds. New beginings and all that my good man. Blue till I die. Proud of it.

9.) Op here number 2 thinks I am paranoid, except everything posted is true.

3) I take no pleasure in Hearts problems at all. I believe the treatment of Rangers was completely steered by venom of other supporters. You say that comparisons can't be made, it seems to me that they are very similar. A business man that got into trouble and the fans suffer. However I don't get the feeling that they will be subjected to what we were. The tone is different especially on line and on tv. There is a sympathy for Hearts that was not there for us. Every fan in Scotland got considered except for the thousands that support Rangers. The 600 that voted at St Johnstone and the 450 at Killie were listened to, the 50,000 at Ibrox were not.

10.) @6). Rangers legal team lol. Is there's not a cap on Legal Aid? HH Joe

11.) Op so you think your club can f. k over scores of creditors, the people of Britain and just told everything is ok and please carry on as before?

It's welfare grabbing people like you that disgust me the most! This living on your knees attitude has destroyed your club and the waiting for a new sugar daddy to come along pushed your old club into liquidation! The fact hearts supporters tried to save their club with the best of their ability was commendable and for that I hope they succeed! But your supposed huge worldwide support only raised £600k wow that is huge! Only people to blame for rangers death ins people like you! You certainly sound very bitter and people like you shouldn't be allowed near any football club!

12.) 18 Jun 2013 06:33:07
I wonder if the skewed and partial history set out by OP will ever become widely believable? Or if we bears will ever accept what really happened. Any set of facts like this that doesn't mention role of sdm is not worth reading.

Realist Bear with Accurate Memory

13.) @9 but 88 Bears took £50m out of ibrox in tax-avoiding EBT scandal and whole of media knew about it and would not print.

No such scale of scandal at Hearts.

Rangers founds guilty on many cases.

14.) @5/ you need to see a medical person mate. Why bring lennon into this? Not posted for weeks then bring lennon into a thread that has nothing to do with him. Now that's obsession.

15.) @9/ Are you really that twisted that you don't see the facts? Whyte, therefore Rangers, deliberately withheld social taxes and private contract payments. Rangers were still racking up debt when they knew administration was inevitable.

16.) 18 Jun 2013 12:05:25
@9 / op You're being a tad silly if you don't mind me saying so, why would our fans have had a vote? The issue was whether our newco should be allowed straight into the spl or div1. We weren't a member of spl so couldn't vote on that. Simple. Tough to take for us fans, but there's no need for conspiracy theories about it in my view. I doubt that the spl will call a similar vote if hearts form a newco, so if that happens hindsight will even show we were treated favourably! I know, cue the allegations of traitor/hater/timmy (delete as per preference. ) But i'm just an honest bear who can take knocks on the chin and don't see the value in inventing reasons to be bitter.

17.) Get facts right hearts have paid the tax bill

17 Jun 2013 17:30:22
Hearts preparing to go into administration today, but a few weeks ago the SPL could find no evidence that they might be insolvent, which would have seen them deducted 15 points and relegated next season. Not one for conspiracies but this stinks somewhat. PB

1.) No conspiracy. The problem was the time it took to have the bank in Lithuania dealt with. They were just lucky that's all.

2.) 17 Jun 2013 22:01:24
I agree, so much more likely that the spl are covertly pro-hearts than pro-rangers. This is the evidence.

3.) Absolutely correct, looking after their own incomes again, the only people who didn't know they were insolvent were the SPL board.

4.) Whyte took rangers into admin midseason to be clear for next season in SPL.

Hearts have done oppsite as they would have been relegated. simples.

5.) Look the long and the short of it is if Hearts go into liquidation as we (Rangers)did they will have to reapply and if it excepted 3rd division as we had to. if they don't go into liquidation and manage to beat the 15 points next season they will stay up. if they do get better treatment than us that's the time for singing and dancing

17 Jun 2013 11:38:37
Is there no way the fans cannot withold their season ticket but still pledge it but only if this Prior guy gets a seat on the board? He talks sense, would probably mean some hadship asw he cuts costs and may take a bit longer to get back to the very top but in sustainable way. Could also look at ways of recompensing oldco debtors in some way.

Foxy

1.) Foxy, if you don't want to buy a ST, don't buy one, don't be a sheep. And what exactly do you know about Prior? The only thing I can figure about him is that he tells wee porkies!

17 Jun 2013 11:35:22
any idea how many st have been sold

1.) Aprox 14,000 so far mate

2.) There has been literally some sold.
That is all

3.) Yeah and we had sold a couple of hundred last year, all of a season there was 38,000. yawn with this kinda talk. there will be a good few full houses again this season. but with the Celtics being in uefa cup, as they will be, as they won't get through three qualifying games. we will again have the highest atendances

4.) @3/ Do you really believe that rubbish? Celtics attendances were bigger than Rangers that's a fact. Did you think Celtic would get through to the group stage last year? Would you just love to be in Europe this season? And by the way Celtic sold 43k season tickets last year

17 Jun 2013 11:30:48
Why are people so happy about all these players coming in. Its just more and more money in wages. I would rather see players we have already costing us wages for doing f'all going out. We are a second division and we have to live within our means.
Don

1.) Our means are dictated in part by the fans, based on last season we have SPL levels of attendance, infact based on last season we have more than SPL levels so just because we are in the 2nd division does not mean we have to be at a par with Airdrie and Stenhousemuir

We are expected, by us the fans, to romp every game, win the league and Ramsdens Cup (is this still a thing?) and do a fair bit in either/both cups

If that doesn't happen then inevitably we get the usual muppets screaming for Ally's head

We are building a squad to get back to the top, there's not a single other team in the country that can say that

17 Jun 2013 07:41:22
sorry ed, away for the weekend so subject might have already been discussed, mr prior, within 24 hours of putting money into the club, exposes that certain board members are over paying themselves bonuses for last years success. he states bonuses being paid by rangers are on par with bonuses being paid to board members of companies who are working at a different level within the city, and rangers can't sustain that kind of spending. don't know much about mr prior, but if he keeps supplying FACTS and not just RUMOUR and HEARSAY to the fans then I think he could become a great asset to the club and the fans. hopefully he will increase his stake and position in the future within the club, be it slow and cautious, but I could warm to this man.!

1.) Could you not have worked out that the bonus system was a joke yourself? The whole spending at the club is out of control, and still Ally wants to increase the wage bill.

2.) The point is that yes most semi intelligent people could work out the 'wages' and 'bonuses' for Board AND Ally/Durrant/McDowall are a joke. HE IS FIRST OF THE MANAGEMENT LEVEL PEOPLE to bring it out honestly and openly with a clever comparison using Goldman Sachs as a guide. It needs the people in charge to cleanse Rangers as Ally put it. note Mr MaCoist or our trusted WS have never mentioned this crazy unsustainable wage structure. hmmmm I wonder why. george

(This guy Prior may not be the answer but he is saying what we have all been saying on here for the last year or more)

17 Jun 2013 01:23:41
I wasn't going to renew my two season tickets, I attended three games last year due to a few months illness but the real reason was that it was utter rubbish. It was bordering on the unwatchable.

I swore that I was not going back. The envelopes ( a real gripe of mine - why two envelopes, with two stamps) arrived last Monday, I opened the envelopes, I got out my cheque book and off went my £472. Posted an hour after they arrived. Why?

I can't desert them, I truely can't do it. I am appalled at what the spivs and con men have done to my club with their only interest being, how much can I take from this.

Real fans don't desert their team in their hour of need. I can't believe I am saying this but I can't wait until the new season, I am looking forward to seeing some new blood. I can only hope that it will be much better than last year. Even if it is not, muggins will be here, signing my cheque.

1.) Spoken from the heart will said mate.

Abomb1982

2.) Ill keep it simple a true Gers fan and we don't do walking away.

3.) Well done mate, think we all have went through all those emotions!

4.) Why buy pay at the gate for me still not seen the deeds or any info regarding how much for blackthorn/stadium naming/puma deals still no questions being asked

5.) 17 Jun 2013 18:56:38
True fans do what is best for their club. If you want to give cash to spivs nae probs but don't pretend you're some sorta super fan by claiming fans that the folks who buy STs are the real fans.

Believe me not renewing an ST is a tough decision but unless I'm convinced I'll be paying at the gate.

6.) I was thinking the same as op but yes I did the same renewed both my st I can't say enjoyed the football played last season but the club needs my money right now the signings so far have been decent and i'm sure or I hope the standard will be better its ok saying pay at the gate but it would end up going to a few games against the better teams if you can say that about div 2 so the income of the club would go down then if and when we get back into spl do I then just renew my st while others have put money in to get us there no for me i'm in for the long hall bit like getting married it in sickness and health right now we are sick but its curable

7.) The attidude and feelings of the poster, is what these guy play on exploit, I don't understand why you put the st money in their control, paying at the gate is the only way.

16 Jun 2013 21:26:40
Rangers should get andy geggan from Dunfermline would be a good addition to the team has 3rd 2nd 1st div experience and is a winner in the rb position or holding midfield role from glasgow and a bluenose would play for the jersey

South side bluenose

1.) 17 Jun 2013 21:47:07
I went through secondry school with andy, and also played beside him in the school team, great player can play striker as well

16 Jun 2013 15:40:49
Hi Celtic fan in peace,. just read the article by your new investor Kieron Prior about ludicrous payments made to other Executives of your club. At last you seem to have someone who s looked carefully at what's going on, assessed it, then made a very good statement about it, I wish him every success, Vinciebhoy

1.) Thought would not accept spl rules seems they have changed there minds king lawell will soon put them in there place

2.) N1 its not spl rules it won't be called the spl

3.) @1 spl no longer exists neither does the sfl they have merged

JG {The Ed039's Note - the new body is the SPFL, Scottish Professional Football League)

4.) Ed039 what rule book are they going to use and when does it come into effect?

JG {The Ed039's Note - There will be some tweaking of both organisations rule books, there is an exact date the new organisation comes into effect but I cant remember it)

16 Jun 2013 13:29:17
Tom Hateley has yet to sign a new contract at Motherwell.
Would be a useful addition to the team if signed by Rangers.
Can play right back and in midfield.

1.) I'd def like to see hately sign. A solid right back who can take a corner and hit a decent free kick.

2.) Why do so many Rangers fans want to see us sign him? He is very average and had his name been Tom Smith no one woud be talking about him as a potential signing

3.) I know he's not Scottish but I see Strachan was on the verge of calling him upto the national side is that because his names Hately aswell or is it because Behind Mulgrew & the boy from St Mirren he's probs the best set peice taker in the country?

4.) This would be a bad signing!. He is not consistant enough and the crown would get on his back as he can be a sloppy passer. We should not be signing people just because they take a good free kick. He is not his dad and fans a romanticising with the past. Should we bring Darren Ferguson in as manager just because his dad is Sir Alex?.

16 Jun 2013 11:27:36
Hi Just had to withdraw my season ticke renewal. BT buying 10 home games to air on a Fiday night. I like most fans can not work & make my way home after games on a Friday. Money before fans. I hope the club reject the deal but can't see it. Gutted.

1.) It is not 10 home games, I think you will find most if not all will be away games

2.) Might have missed
Something, so excuse me
if I have but were does
it say 10 Rangers games
billy h

3.) Get a grip! it will be most if not all away game. Any excuse!

4.) Billy h. It says 10 rangers games on pretty much every report in the media!
The Friday games would pretty much all be away games I'd think, it easier to police an away game than 45,000 at Ibrox on a Friday night.

5.) BT have the right 30 SPL games and 10 Rangers games some of the 40 games could be on a Friday night I would imagine any Old Firm team involvement would be away to maximize TV viewing. AJM.

6.) The contract apparently states 10 rangers games but does not stipulate all have to be friday night games at ibrox as the op was making out, bt

7.) Their prospectus proposes 20 top flight games & 10 Rangers division 2 games.

8.) @4 cheers. seen were it says 10
Rangers games but still not
seen were it says they will
all be Friday nights as op
suggests so will still get my
season ticket
billy h

9.) We need the money as st is only revenue stream confirmed

15 Jun 2013 21:19:58
Been quiet of late because basically I'm a bit bored of the same chat over and over again.
Then suddenly out of nowhere one of the worlds most intelligent men appears with a back story as inspirational as one of those teary bits from X-Factor. Kieron Prior may very well turn out to be the real deal and I really hope he does. However, I'm a bit suspicious at the need for not one but two 'exclusives' in the Daily Rag in quick succession. A clever guy in a wheelchair who's fought against the odds to be successful. That's a nice way to balance a see saw with the Easedales on the other side isn't it.

Kind regards

Doom Monger
Not a 'Rea'l Bear
Timmy in Disguise
Etc etc etc. blah blah

Baybear

1.) I understand your wariness Baybear. We've been put through the ringer and only the most resilient (or beautifully naive) would have escaped the last 2 years without their optimism damaged. By all accounts though, this Prior guy is a good lad and pretty astute and after all the shenanigans I'm sure he realizes that all he needs to do to win the support over is give us the truth about what's going on at our club (we've been ready to hear it for a wee whily). Saying the directors are being overpaid is a perfect example, everybody knows it but it took this guy to come in from the outside and state the obvious. Let's see what else he's got. Duccablue

2.) Your suspicious baybear? why is that, is it because a man from manchester from a traditional irish background claims to be a rangers fan. or is it a very intellgent man is pi$$ing up your leg and telling you it raining. The fact is there is nothing we can do about it. other than raise the millions required to take over the club our selfs. because at the end of the day anyone who can raise that sort of money can buy the club for good or bad. I WAS ALSO SURPRISED TO HERE THE BOARD ARE OVER PAYING THEMSELVES. who could have figured that one.

3.) #2. Aye, doesn't take a 234 IQ (well according to the DR anyway) to work out that the board are overpaying themselves.

Just as a guy with my very much lower IQ can tell that Ally and his pals are being overpaid even more.

Hopefully Mr Prior isn't scared to point this out just because he has connections to Malcolm Murray. I'll take hard facts any time over Charles Green style baloney, and to the guy earlier asking about friendlies with Arsenal and LA Galaxy - I wouldn't get too excited if I was you.

15 Jun 2013 17:15:22
Scott arfield would be a brilliant signing for us, still a young lad with bags of talent, could really add something to our team just now. my uncle who is a diehard bluenose lives in huddersfield and goes to the games quite often and has told me on several occasions rangers should try and get him. Fingers crossed bears.

1.) Great, that's all we need is another midfielder and where in team would he play? if he was having such a great season at huddersfield why was he released and why hasn't he been snapped up by championship clubs. BT

15 Jun 2013 16:43:03
Where do some of our fans come up with their ridiculous ideas? For weeks and months on here everyone has been moaning and complaining that the board are taking too much money out in salaries, they are all spivs etc - now this new guy buys some shares and echos these sentiments and suddenly he is in on it all? its an enigma wrapped up in a puzzle hidden inside a mystery! and to think we have a cheek to call our ugly sisters from across the city paranoid!

Ayr bear

1.) If goian is retiring why would we have to pay till end of contract? I wouldn't mind if they bothe stayed because we need to make sure our defense ain't keepin us in a game with the talent in our squad higher up we need to make sure were scoring a bucket load ever game! kum on ally

15 Jun 2013 13:52:06
Everything seems to have gone very quiet on rangers signing centre halfs which we're badly needing, has anyone heard any fresh news regarding us making any progress on our pursuit of signing a centre half or centre halfs?

1.) We won't be signing any CBS if we keep boca and goian

2.) Boca and goian coming back, unless someone makes an offer for either why do we need more centre half s?

3.) Firstly bocanegra and goian will both be leaving as both wages are not feasable for rangers. Boca heading back to the MLS and no concrete intrest in goian as of yet but HE WILL be leaving. On the signing front we are going to sign zaliukas by the end of next week, no other news on center halfs joining. Scott arfield is 85% a done deal, a few wee stumbling blocks but should get the deal done.

4.) @2 there is no way either will be back as neither player wants to play in Div 2 and we can't afford them. Expect both to be given free transfers just to get them off the wage bill

5.) @2 let's be honest, goian and bocca won't be staying due to international reasons, so we really do need centre backs, unless your happy to go with the same dross as last season?

6.) Goian statedafew months ago he was retiring I know he has a year left on rangers contract so he will retire wither he is looking for a wage to walk away or leaving gracefully iwe can only wait and see

7.) @3/I can guarantee Arfield will not sign.

15 Jun 2013 13:36:35
why do we not give stephen mcmanus a try captain of the people 3 in a row or even bring andy webster back since he's playin better than before

1.) McManus is murder and Webster hasn't got it mentally to play infront of big crowds. No thanks to either.
Would take Wilson back, boca or goian if no one bids for them will do for me

2.) I am assuming your on he wind up? Neither player would do at Ibrox McManus is a cart horse and Webster had a mental issue playing for Rangers

15 Jun 2013 13:16:01
Prior. Goldman Sachs. Is that not the Company that ripped off the American Taxpayer? The same Company that hid the finances of Greece? The same company that thought merging Daimler with Chrystler was a good idea? The same Company that robbed the German taxpayer twice over with its IPO of Deutsche Telekom. The same company that sold Mannessmann to Vodaphone that led to mass redunancies. and much much more. Oh, yes, let's trust this man. (I used to work for the Goldmans)

1.) So does that make every employee of Google, Vodaphone, ebay, and for that matter previous employees of RFC tax evaders. Mate stop giving sweeping statements they are utterly stupid.

2.) So by that argment we can't trust you either as you (claim to be) an ex-employee?

And can you explain Mr Prior's role in any of the examples you mention?

3.) The statement is utterly factual mate albeit hardly relevant.

4.) OP here. No an employee. In Frankfurt. MesseTurm. 25th floor. I left as the made me sick.

5.) 15 Jun 2013 23:57:40
goldman sachs are the biggest persons on this earth, wouldn't trust anybody that worked for then. they rob the poor to line their own pockets. rings true with a few gers owners tho

6.) Well done OP. a man (or lady) or principle

15 Jun 2013 12:00:22
Kieran Prior all over the news criticizing Board salaries and bonuses. Particularly singling out Stockbridge as finance director.

Is this Stockbridge's way out? Green and Ahmad have gone, is this the start of Stockbridge's walk?
Is Prior linked to the recent Isle of Man guy who got over 700,000 shares from Green?

Again a Manchester finance link, same as Ahmad and Stockbridge. Don't think Prior, because he's in a wheelchair, cannot be a liar also. You succeed on the stock exchange by feign and deception.

Will Prior replace Stockbridge as FD? Before the damning accounts come out? Where's the £22m?

1.) The guy is just stating facts. From boardroom to grass roots the wages are ridiculous. A second division club, losing money, should be cutting costs not increasing them. A finance director getting a bonus for the team winning the league? A third division manager on 750k per year? I do agree on the accounts though, something smells with them.

2.) The question is why are all these investors interested in a club that is losing £1m/month? what are our actual assets other than ST money? Rangers seem like some shady "front" company for conmen, hopefully Mr Prior will be different and will run Rangers as a football club and start to rebuild our reputation.

3.) Kieran would have to be a black sheep among his family and friends growing up if he did indeed support the Gers. They are all Celtic daft and I feel we need to be very wary here.

4.) 15 Jun 2013 13:53:04
@ # 2, the reason there all interested in the club is because contrary to what you seem to think or read in the papers, we are not losing 1 million a month.

This number of losing 1 million came out when the last figures were released showing a deficit of 6 million. The reason a large bit of loss was due to not trading for a couple of months, buying back various properties and the paying off of old footballing debts.

So as said before the reason we have lots of investors circling our club is down to the fact they can see money making opportunities!

5.) Prior friend of MM - so at last we see sensible concerns about costs.

Rangers need 2-3 years of solid financial preformance - balanced with some success on pitch to form platform to reform.

Green and his £500k bonus each year - its completly against any reform of Rangers fortunes - as by time Gers back in europe - Green will have pocketed £5m which is then crucial to entering CL.

Also Greens being caught on tape as Rangers CEO claiming UEFA corrupt - will haunt us for years.

6.) @4 how do you know we are not losing a £million a month? The interim accounts showed we lost £5 million in the first 5 months in spite of the majority of the season ticket income. Where have the savings come, how much of the £22million from share issue is left? Why no audited accounts? If nothing else this new investor is asking the questions the majority of sensible bears are asking. We all hope there is no problem but come on let's see the audited accounts. let's see the actual position. I will renew my season ticket but I am worried

15 Jun 2013 11:39:52
Phoned rangers megastore today at ibrox asked about our new strip and they told me its coming out at the end of July

Southside bluenose

1.) 15 Jun 2013 16:00:05
excellent news and so much for all the rumor merchants saying blackthorn deal was cancilled. looking forward to buying 1. and from the new official shop so more money goes to the clubs way.

Ps any word on the arsenal frendly or the preseason tourney that us and la galaxy were supposed to be in

2.) That's good

3.) @1/ Oh dear. Look at the structure of the deal. LA Galaxy and Arsenal? So you believe Green then?

4.) The shops profits don't go to the club. It goes to sports direct guy from Newcastle and the merchandising company directors green and Stockbridge.

5.) @4 the company is 51% owned by RIFC and 49% sports direct retail, get it right

JG

15 Jun 2013 10:55:28
According to stv we can play trialists in 3 games prior to registering. 2 in any one game as the previous rule states.

There is also no limit on number of players over 21 anymore, or the number of players you can register in general.

http://tinyurl.com/nyt9ojn

1.) Yet again bending the rules for your club and I bet you would say its all Celtic running the show and want you gone right? If it was Celtic running things you would have any special treatment and would be the same as any other club and just face the punishments. But that's not the case and you still think you are not being treated fairly

2.) @1. Grow up you fool. We had no input in any discussions for new league or its rules. Your just another of them who hates the fact were still going. You wanted us dead and it never happened. Your hatred never died Just like the famous rangers of Glasgow. We are still the people.

3.) @1 is relegated to the 3rd division not a punishment? Go back to your own page And stop obsessing, we know you are missing us, but it's becoming tedious now.

4.) @1 note the site name rangers banter- are you lost? As a bear I have no interest in what's happening in the east end. Why the fixation with all things blue? Get a life

5.) RFC were never relegated. That's a historical fact that can never be changed.

6.) You should see them on LSE. CO. UK- share page. All new posters, and everyone of their comments about shares is on the RIFC page. They get everywhere, little vermin.

7.) This is 1, I don't hate you as you may think so think you need to calm down a wee bit. I always wanted to see a match btw the two clubs yet sadly never will for your former legends which you blindly followed lead to your end. Have you not notice how many of you fans keep blaming Celtic and say they run everything on this page? It's not hate just trying to help you wake up already and look in the mirror

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