Rangers Banter 2
22 May 2013 15:14:15
Still the problem of Green, Ahmad and Blue Pitch lingers though. Things need to be handled very delicately are the RST the men for the job
Eastbear- indeed mate, you can only do what you can. I've had correspondence from them and they seem to want what we want. Just waiting on permission to post their responses to my emails. Asked out of courtesy.
In my opinion Green, Ahmad and Blue Pitch all want to sell.
@3/ And there's the problem. Green backs the easedales apparently.
@5/ They can be vetted all day but if Green wants to sell to them there's nothing anyone can do. As for the fit and proper nonsense, one would pass it for sure.
@7/ Your forgetting one thing, Green has a stake in EVERY other income stream into Ibrox. He will not let this go cheaply, he will be around for a long time yet.
22 May 2013 12:57:09
How exactly did Celtic 'pinch' your players? Were they not out of contract and free to go to whichever club made an offer?
I grew up knowing you lot as the Bluebirds and not sell outs lol
They love playing in the champions league, maybe they'll come back to you when you qualify. so that will be never then. shammy
Two fair responses. But it is galling when you develop players and they are signed by vultures who can pay high signing on fees as they avoid transfer payments. Yeah, we may only last a season but £60 million for finishing bottom (which we wont) should soften the blow. Just think what the Bears could do with that!
They love picking uo a big wage for minimal work playing against spl teams. Could of took same money to play in the big boy league down south.
@op it's hardly something to shout about that you's get rangers cast offs and celtic come and take your best players for nothing
Redbird the sad fact is we could have bought and sold you. and we have blew it big time
Red neck are you sure you've grew up yet and what team did your manager play for you know the guy who got u up after years of failures
@ Redbird : Its not all about taking your best players. Remember we took Glen Loovens from you. Cheers. DH
22 May 2013 12:15:19
I think QOS are due a development fee for Clark as well. Not a lot of money but is it classed as buying him?
Remember we lost about 20 first team players before the season started, so I don't think our wage bill is that big. If we punt Goian and Bocanegra, we'll still be well within our budget. Pete
Sorry no (2)"our wage bill is not that big"?
I hope he doesn't sign any of these 30 year olds and journeymen, its ridiculous to even think about signing players like these, what is the long term goal? another year of watching overpaid dross play dire football badly? how can this be seen as taking us forward? is any of it true or more hype and lies to sell season tickets? either way McCoist has proved yet again that Rangers are not his primary interest, he has got to go.
22 May 2013 21:37:56
#3 our financial year only ends on 30th June its only after that will you see year end accounts
22 May 2013 12:06:52
Absolutely Les, couldn't agree more.
Didn't hear you complain when we signed Ronald De Boer? Pete
Yes baybear all these fanny, s are just an aside to the Sir David big letdown
Pete. do you not think that even Rangers fans were scratching there heads with the big signings. tore andre flo. yes a player the Chelsae fans called snow drop. a player nicknamed snow drop in scottish football I ask you
Bunch of judas. Never heard any not one single peep before the event. Apart from one director who either left or was pushed. Hindsight f@&kin brilliant.
SDMs to blame make no mistake.
Pete- I won't argue with that. I loved every minute of watching the likes of De Boer, Laudrup, Van Bronkhorst, Gascgoine etc etc. I was also totally sucked in by Murray (apart from the later Casino tales etc). When all seems well and you're winning titles/cups, playing in the champions league, building state of the art training grounds etc you have no need to ask questions. Murray kept delivering and as the years passed it just got better and better. I make no apologies for being an excited, trusting supporter. If you are a Rangers supporter or had been in our position all those years of success I'd imagine you would have bought into the dream too. or are you just too intelligent for that mate? Would you have been the 1 in thousands demanding answers for questions that didn't exist at the time as far as we knew? naw! didnae think so. There's nothing worse than someone perpetuating hindsight as intelligence. You knew f**k all the same as the rest of us. So let's just accept we were all led up the garden path and do something about our future instead of trying to get one up on folk posting their opinion.
Sir DM had no choice but to sell to get potential liability of BTC, Lloyds were and are breathing down his neck. There is one man, if he can be called that, and that man is Craig Whyte. He came with his only desire to put us into admin. he thought the BTC was to happen in October, when delayed he stopped paying PAYE and NI. The amazing thing is that nobody has questioned where the money went. There was £8m in the bank when he took over three weeks later he took in £13m in season ticket sales. He sold players and bought players but the net figure was a profit. Where is that money, because in 5 months £21m plus £2m prize money plus transfer fees had gone. Even if £1m loss a month, then there should be plenty left.
@8- aye, he had Lloyds breathing down his neck as they wanted their money back. Debt that he racked up against our club in pursuit of an unattainable dream. leading us to believe he was bankrolling it along the way. If it wasn't for SDMs reckless spending of other peoples money there would have been no Craig Whyte for us to discuss.
N. o 8 and why was he backed in a corner? spending to much on his play thing and now his play things broken
@8 so if there was £8 million in the bank, why was that not used to clear the debt with Lloyd's?
Well, plenty of Rangers fans were demanding big signings every season - i'm sure some of you guys did too and Murray delivered every time. As somebody said earlier, hindsight is a wonderful thing, but also we probably wouldn't have 9 in a row/Murray Park without David Murray. A lot of short memories on here. Pete
@13 Murray funded all this with money he tapped the bank for and all the s/t money and merchandise being sold then he set up the ebt's which he Tain 6 mill from so by my reckoning he didn't spend one dime of his own money that's why his fortune grew and grew he didn't need the banks money so I personally think he's responsible
@12 what a great post P. O. B I could not have put it any better. Rangers then, Rangers now, Rangers forever. What a change from the usual negative posts on this forum. I applaud you sir.
Great post p. o. b it brought a lump to my throat I agree with everything you say
Pob, put the dictionary away.
22 May 2013 11:49:38
Totally agree. could this not
How the hell is it discrimination?
Unfortunately Sky are simply responding to demand. The product in Scotland is poor and nobody outside Scotland is interested in it. Chr15t! we're barely interested in it ourselves!
1) won't they just say it reflects the viewing figures?
How can a country of 5 million compete with a country of 55 million? It can't, and by trying to, Rangers nearly went out of business. The financial fair-play rules will kick in soon enough and a lot of the clubs in England will need to cut their cloth accordingly. We should stop trying to match them and focus on our own business instead. Pete
Number 5) - Croatia ranked no 4 on FIFA's list. Three places above England, population 4.5 million. Just thought I would say.
@2 oxford dictionary discrimination
@5 English clubs have already found a way round it so don't hold your breath.
If a scottish club won the champions league. Would they even receive 50million from uefa / tv deals. Excluding gate recepits.
Yes Croatia are rated there but there league is not that good its the players who leave who make it big, Celtic and Rangers (at the time) done far better than Croatia Zagreb in Europe.
22 May 2013 17:14:04
@ 11 and the reason its a
@12: it's not discrimination, though. They pay for a better product. Why can't you see that there's no prejudice or unjust treatment?! Do you really think that they should pay those figures for Scottish football, a vastly inferior product? Are you in the habit of paying way over the odds for inferior products? If so, you must have several screws loose.
@12: go and look up what discrimination means - properly this time - and check out typical examples of it like racism, sexism etc. Is the situation with the TV deals for Scottish football the same?
The answer to the Sky money don't buy it if u live in Scotland it is a fact that they make more money from some Scottish games than some of the so called EPL big teams who get the 60mil
@13 if you were being paid
But Croatia have some good players that all play in the best leagues? Pete
It is discrimination and here is why. We the Scottish nation produce more viewers than Denmark, Sweden and Norway, we produce a far higher revenue for Sky than those countries yet we get paid a pittance in comparison to them? why you may ask? the answer is simple Sky takes our money and uses it to prop up the English leagues, so in my eyes that is discrimination.
@18 well said mate
@16: if your workmate was obviously doing a far better job than you and offering a much better service/product would you expect to be paid the same? Would you still claim it was discrimination? If so, you do indeed have a screw loose.
What our S. F. A & S. P. L
22 May 2013 11:29:36
The same could be said of all the so called Rangers men at the club, not one of them has done anything, what's the point in having these people at the club if they allow this to happen and keep us in the dark? We have trusted these people and thus far they have not delivered. We can't continue on this path, if they won't make a stand its down to us to "cleanse" the club.
22 May 2013 12:58:47
Think you are in the loop salmon your are not far away from the truth.
@1 fair point mate but we can't even trust the so called rangers men its time we got our finger out it pains me to say this but we should do what the celtic fan did in the 90s and look how they are now cause that's what's needed and maybe we'll be the force that we once wer and if the fans aren't going to fight for the good of our club then all we can do is stand on the sidelines and watch the conmen take our hard earned money because there's not one honest man on the board
@2. Spot on. It's a pretty big conspiracy, with accent on the piracy part of that word. Green totally gone, you'll hardly hear another word from him. Whyte has controlled it all.
22 May 2013 11:21:35
The worst is over? Are you serious mate.
Said it before and i'll say it again. the light at the end of the tunnel, is a train heading for cloud cuckoo land. shammy
22 May 2013 11:08:18
Where's all the money coming from because all the freeloaders disguising themselves as pro footballers aren't going anywhere, no one wants them or would be willing to pay their wages. Letting 6 youth players go isn't going to make up any difference.
22 May 2013 10:14:09
Why a one year deal for such a promising young player
@1 have to disagree very average player who would get found out as we progress up the leagues.
Maybe that's all he was prepared to sign?
22 May 2013 09:52:12
22 May 2013 09:33:28
What if King does come in then is found guilty in his tax cases in south Africa?
22 May 2013 10:33:57
I agree we should not renew ST as a protest but as we all know. We will hold out till a fornight before the season starts, there will be a glimmer of hope and we will all reluctantly renew
An idea could be having king/ mccoll / murray going in with an equal share, good men who would have rangers best interests at heart, not their own, which seems to be happenibg just now!
One problem is Green and Ahmad. They can sell their shares to who ever they like. They also seem to have the mysterious Blue Pitch holdings on their side
To SA Post 2 - my reference to "the great SDM" was written with tongue stuck firmly in cheek! Try reading things more clearly!
Dave King may or may not be the man to finally save us, but very few if any people at boardroom level currently at Rangers are intereted in us other than for their own profit, we must show these people that we will not tolerate this. We must not renew our STs until this is cleared up, who is to say that Rangers will still be running at Christmas even? we're alreadt losig £1m a month, buying a ST doesn't secure Rangers it merely lines the pockets of the very people that are destroying our great club. The time has come to back Rangers Football Club not Sevco or whatever else they call their company, without us they have no company. If a public statement was released saying that collectively we will not renew STs and will boycott all Rangers merchandise, as soon as they see a drop in profits these money men will get out. Then we have to hope for the best. again, but at least the new owners will know that we won't stand for any nonense.
King didn't put 20M of his own money - he put 20M of the South Africans Tax Mans money into rangers.
22 May 2013 08:39:54
Do you not think the silence from Ibrox is worrying as of yet there are no done deals and there might not be any
How can Miller be a done deal when he's not going to be a free agent until much later in the year?
Scott, you are a perfect example of everything that's wrong with your club.
22 May 2013 08:35:49
So what your doing is making excuses for the way the club is being run and accepting it as ok? And your saying supporters don't have a right to ask the questions about ownership etc after what they have been through.
Wow mate what a ridiculous post for a fan of any club to make never mind the rollercoaster we've been on! you just get your cineworld season ticket and stay away its people like you that make me want to vomit. #boltyarocket!
You talk some amount of rubbish. Cineworld isn't an institution like Rangers who have played @ Ibrox for over 100 years.
Some have shares and own the club mate.
@1) At no point did I say it was OK. I am merely stating that with no other company would people demand to see where there money is going but because it's a football club then they think they have a right.
Then we will need to watch from the pavements
@bigbear1873 it's muppets like you that these conmen love you should change your name to gullible ger 1873 because aslong as there's fans like yourself then we'll never get rid of them
Theber82 How does not caring where my money goes when I buy a product or service make me gullible? As long as I receive that product or service then I am happy.
@8 awrite mate gullible is a bit strong stupid if more fitting cause when I get sold a sh*t product it's straight back to the shop for a refund a don't go buying more sh*te fae the same place
22 May 2013 07:43:59
Move on ffs what is this obsession with former players?
Dailly retired last summer. Bet the OP feels a bit silly now.
21 May 2013 23:46:47
Big Jig came on as a sub late on in the game
I think your right, shows the sad state of our game now. I can't even think of a player in the Scottish game who has played at a World Cup!
Has Rab Douglas Retired?
To No2: Samaras, Lustig, Izzaguire?
Is there any scottish players still playing that have playe in a world cup?
@5: Neil Sullivan was in the squad but didn't play - he's still playing and made 20 appearances for AFC Wimbledon this season.
21 May 2013 19:19:19
Baybear I feel for you m8 as your 100% correct these lowlife care not a jot for the fans, I can honestly say I care more for your club than they do and i, m a tim keep your chin up m8, it has right itself eventually
Baybear, all of the above is exactly why we need people like Ally and Walter to remain at the club.
Well said baybear and if walter does walk tomorrow as rumoured then I think this great club will slip into freefall as much as it hurts to say that. BT
Well 57 years following gers and I've had enough of the lies, at a loss to wonder who is telling the truth now, this isn't the civilised rangers way to conduct business that I have known and seen throughout the years so I won't be renewing my season book next year, as regards another poster on here as far as I could remember before the new stands were built it was only the main stand that was season books the rest was pay at the gate so season books for most fans would only have been in the last 25 to 30 years doug t. s. o
I thought things couldn't get any worse and then aw this sh*t this is worse than last year come on a think its time to start the demo's fs we done it on 14th feb last year and that was only getting put into admin now the vulctures are tearin us apart fae the inside this has got to stop now or we will have nothing left for us to follow just memories of our past glories this is the time to show that W. A. T. P is now cause we are the the only people who can stop this
Baby Bear I like you are at my lowest with all the crap at our club just now everything you say is true, where will it end what has our great club become? Hope it all comes to an end shortly and we get through it with as little damage as possible the greed and the lies are killing this once great club. I am not one for boycotts but our fans really need to show what we think of all this even if it means holding back on season tickets etc. I know this doesn't do the club any good but nothing else has worked so far. We need good honest men at the top to lead the way, not the ones there just now vying for control of our club for their own selfish means.
Unfortunatey the fans are split into two main camps
21 May 2013 12:44:03
You seem to be forgetting one thing here. Mather was brought to the club by Green, he is his man.
Stockbridge has a whole lot more power at Ibrox than Mather so can't see that happening at this moment in time.
That low life stockbridge should have resigned as soon as his pathetic, shameful stunt was exposed. he is a board member and supposed to represent our club. what has our club become with the likes of him and others are in charge.
Racist comments, green gets his get out and leaves, dodgy Internet slurs, ihmran (spelling) gets his get out and leaves, now Stockbridge with his video, is this his get out. Seems to be a trend here. They leave in disgrace with their wallets bulging
This is the person (Brian Stockbridge) who is currently overseeing the culling of great servants who have stuck by the club through admin and lost thousands of pounds. He is in charge of the troubleshooter working inside Ibrox on a daily basis cutting costs without giving a damn about loyalty!
21 May 2013 11:32:41
Divison 2 not an issue for me, i'll follow my club wherever they play. I'm a supporter and only want to watch my team play.
Is there a point in going back to the top if there are constantly people who just want to leech the club of cash, threatening its existence?
21 May 2013 10:08:43
Anyone would be stupid to sign while the current in fighting is going on. No one really knows who owns the club or whether there will be a team playing next season. I believe that agreements have been made in principal but the player will only activate them should the picture become clear
What a juvenile ploy by Stockbridge.
Here Here to Malcolm Murray that donkeys ar5e Stockbridge has just showed everyone that Mr Murray is just a mere mortal like the rest of us who hasn't got totally rat ar5ed and need help to get home.
@3: then he'd be Brian Stockcube.
Stockbridge was probably drunk when he sent it in thinking it was a great idea - person.
21 May 2013 09:38:06
Worst claiming rangers fans sending in the videos, a slur!
The antics. just show the extent on how the club is being ran. own interests and agendas
21 May 2013 07:47:12
At the moment it would appear that it is only the lowest of the low who want the club. The fans need to boycott the renewal of Season Books to put pressure on the incumbents of the board and hope that some decent & respected people come forward.
Agree#1, what the club needs is someone with absolutely NO convictions for fraud, VAT no payment and that includes people who have settled out of court here or abroad.
21 May 2013 07:44:13
Depends on each negotiated item in each contract. Some agents will get "only plays in div2 and above" or else contract void, for instance. So if there's relegation to div3 in the summer, players who have signed could walk if they don't fancy div3.
20 May 2013 22:00:25
21 May 2013 02:27:20
Another depressing post, you have been a fan for forty years but a supporter for 20years meaning you took a season ticket during the glory years so I am sure you and your 4 mates won't be missed next season as real rangers supporters stick by our team in good and bad times and people like you only want to know good times so good riddance you won't be missed. BT
@1: you and your like were tellling us all last summer that loads of clubs would be in administration by Christmas. So far it's been one with Hearts to follow. If it makes you feel better thinking there are loads to follow then keep dreaming. In addition, it might make more sense to worry about the situation at your own club instead of Hearts and the rest; or for that matter, accusing posters on here of not being genuine Rangers fans - that's the realm of the paranoid.
@1/ How you can comment on any poster on here is amazing. You were singing the praises of Green when it was clear he was a chancer. Rangers fans who question everything will be the ones who save the club. People like you will be the ones who kill it.
Ozzie Al, glad to see you finally admit your club was destroyed.
@2. I am doing what I feel is best for Rangers, if someone like you takes my ST so be it, but hopefully the majority of REAL Rangers supporters and not the Super Ally fan club will prevail. We are a football club whose football is dire and a company in complete disarray, I will not fund this mixture of corruption and incompetence any more. Rangers deserve better!
Thanks Al for re emphasising the points in my post and for filling in the bits I missed. Good to also see you have finally outed yourself instead of pretending to be a Gers man. Lol
How exactly have hearts problems got anything to do with rangers going bankrupt? The foreign banking company that owned them has gone under. They also may find a buyer before liquidation, thereby avoiding having to start again as a new club. Let's try sticking to the facts. This forum is full of people sick of lies.
@3. It's this season we will see more clubs go to the wall. Last season was cushioned by the previous years revenue. I'm sorry but Scottish football is in a dangerous position. SPL chairmens minds said get Rangers out but in their hearts they knew the reallity of that decision. I'm a Rangers fan but it was the correct decision as the rules had to be adhered to. There really was no other way or we would be in an even worse position today. My only hope is that Rangers can climb the league quickly, rid ourselves of the board parasites and run at break even.
@7, I have never pretended to be a gers man and if you think any of my posts give that impression then more fool you.
20 May 2013 20:38:06
The Hearts share issue/plus other fund raising activities raised £1.5m to get the club through to the summer. Since March in the region of 6,000 Season Tickets for 2013/14 have also been sold, therefore the answer to your question is Yes. The "parent" company has provided no funding to Heart of Midlothian PLC for at least the last 14 months. Further with high earning players leaving the club it should be self financing from 6/13 onwards (the last bit according to the board that is)
The hearts supporters must really love their club! They got the club through the season with a positive collection and deserve all plaudits!
Hearts are not in administration - the alleged parent company are not in administration yet.
@2 I reckon people like you should make a contribution as you spend more time and show more interest in this site than your own teams. lol
To 1] I'll be surprised if there is any residue of cash left.
Please correct if i, m wrong but I'm under the impression that the "Parent Company" rule was introduced by the SPL to prevent clubs dumping their debts into a specifically set up seperate company whose sole purpose is to avoiding paying them through applying for insolvency. (Southampton? I think tried to do this a few years back). As UKIO/UBIG hold a number of investments/companies in their portfolio including Hearts and their histories pre date any involvement with Hearts, does the "Parent Company" rule actually even apply to Hearts in their current/future circumstances?
5)Hearts have for sometime operated seperately and unfunded from UKIO/UBIG hence the embarressing eposides of late player wages and Tax payments of the last coupe of seasons. The club now lives or dies by what the suppporters put in and will have to live off Season Ticket sales etc/reduced wage bill. The crunch will come when the administrators of UKio and likely now UBig get around to calling in the clubs debts and how much they want in the £! repaid, in the meantime Hearts have to continue to service their debts or face the consequences.
@4 haha mate, my team is the warriors! I am just enjoying reading your rediculous posts and bickering amongst yourselves it is just brilliant!
To 7. ] It is not as simple as you try to make out. Apart from running costs, the Lithuanian banks etc have first charge on the main asset, namely, the football stadium and associated land. Should the bankruptcy be ratified then the debt will be recovered from the proceeds of a sale, unless as no. 2] commented, they find a replacement 'sugar daddy'.
Hearts might not have been deducted anything this season but the writing is on the wall for them only a matter of time next season. remember looking on their site last season and there was a lot of hate for us. but that's karma for you come back and bites you on ass. me I don't take any pleasure in hearts situation (understand some that do)scottish football is in a sorry state
20 May 2013 19:28:08
Wee bit more difficult since Jim Traynor joined the Ibrox franchise. succulent lamb anyone??
20 May 2013 18:34:36
Regan is a clown end of and Doncaster should also go once all organisations merge surely david Longmuir and Campbell Ogilvie must take over from these jokers as they have the experience and knowledge to lead the game forward
Nothing to do with Ogilvie and Longmuir being Rangers men. perchance?
Ogilvie and Longmuir should be banned from the game forever.
21 May 2013 00:46:06
21 May 2013 11:30:23
I suppose we should actually say that they are "The Rangers Men" as "Rangers" are in the process of liquidation.
Is that tax avoider ebt holding ogilvie? You do realise the ebt was a loan, lol. You know if all those loans had been payed back, none of this would have happened. No liquidation, no div3, no whyte, no green, no rangers fans losing money. Makes you think.
20 May 2013 16:33:04
OP: not paranoid much, are you? lol
Hearts operating company pass the tests and have not experienced an insolvency event.
@no 1. the phrase sporting integrity was used in football when celtic refused to extend the season because they were flying out to tour japan the next day, and we all know that didn't happen, so no, not paranoid. it seems to be celtic and a couple of others are calling the shots. i'm disgusted by the decision of the spl. they couldn't afford to lose the edinburgh derby. sporting integrity, but only when it suits them. dave & hugh
1)another coincidence then?
Hearts will start in the SPL without doubt. As time goes on and the evidence is clear they will be deducted points. As no football rule was broken in season 12/13 then they could not be penalised. Scottish football authorities were cacing it todsy.
20 May 2013 20:14:16
I totally disagree with the OP and #3 point. Hearts parent company has serious problems there is no doubt but have they actually entered administration. yes or no? I firmly believe that they will enter an insolvency event in the coming weeks and todays decision will have to be reviewed however as administration will be in mid-season different league rules apply to a year past in Feb when gers were docked 10 points. Its ridiculous to claim Celtic are behind today's decision paranoid running wild. wait till the rumours surrounding the finances at Ibrox are confirmed will that be Celtics fault as well?
Tynecastle calling. for God 's sake stop whingeing about others and get real
Guess we should just accept Green and Whyte linked, hand back the SFA license and walk away then. Same mentality of OP to Hearts.
N8 the spl were meant to look at the hearts sittuation on the 13th of may if they had done so they would have seen the hearts bachers ie bankers from lithiania were insolvent thus hearts would have been put in addminestration but for reasons known only to the spl the date was put back to 20th WHY TMWNN
@8 great post mate! Shame the shame are going to give it a dam good ignoring though!
@10 maybe for the same reason your transfer ban wasn't put in place immediately and allowed to start after the transfer window shutting! Your argument for unfair treatment by the footballing authorities is flawed with every little thing you want to bicker about!
21 May 2013 00:51:23
Romanov has appealed the decision and as such the SPL had no option but to come to the decision that they reached.
@8 If you had exercised the same judgement & advice yourself when voting the rangers out of the SPL and placing upon them every other possible punishment in the book and outwith the book. We would not be discussing the Hearts and other teams financial issues at the moment. The SPL clubs and there supporters are only now beginning to realize the damage there hate campaign against Rangers has done to there own teams. So take your own advice and move on before you end up looking more stupid than you already appear to be.
@12 if I remember correctly there was no rule in the sfa rule book which allowed a transfer ban for our particular misdemeanour. Fact is the meeting was postponed to keep hearts up. Anyone who believes otherwise is living in a non-corrupt bubble
@16: Fact is this from an earlier post:
I was led to believe last summer by supporters of one team, which no longer exists, that the 'club' and the 'company' were two different entities. Does this not still hold?
20 May 2013 15:28:59
Is anyone surprised with the outcome of todays meeting. What a joke- sporting integrity, remember that one. Seems it only applies when Rangers are on the receiving end.
Aye sporting integrity my a### shocking.
There is no way they are going to relegate hearts they don't even have sponsers for next year rangers should never go back to that corrupt spl can't wait till all the joke of clubs are knocked out if Europe so all they muppets from the sfa get the bullet
But Hearts haven't been found to be insolvent. They may still go into admin but because the season is over, the points will be taken from next season's total. What's the problem?
Are Hearts in administration?
No integrity whatsoever, SFA, SPL, SFL, first they shaft hundreds of small business's, charities, emergency service's etc for hundreds of millions of pounds, then they illegally grant a completely new football club a licence to play in the league despite that club being fraudulent and deceptive in thier application for that licence, despite that corrupt club not having the legally required 3 years audited accounts, despite that club not having any accounts whatsoever, despite other well run football clubs such as SpartansFC, Cove RangersFC, etc having more right to a licence to play in the league, yes, a total lack of integrity from the Scottish football authorities!!
Here we go again, Hearts have not officially be declared to be in administration or liquidated yet and you want them demoted they made it to the end of the season so whatever happens to them will happen next season. Our bitterness goes on no wonder we are being outcasted by other clubs fans. we are where we are by the people who ran our club and I'm not so sure we are much better of with our new lot hopefully I'm wrong but we really need to stop blaming everyone other than our own people for the state we are in. I hope we are on the way back now let's keep it that way stop all this hate which our club has brought on itself over the years by bad mismanagement. Let's get back where we belong, I hate to say this but we may not be in the clear yet after latest disclosures and may need the good will of the people we are miss calling and accusing, let's show some dignity.
Well said bobby a few more clear and honest thinkers such as yourself
9) Hearts made it to the end of the season by thier supporters raising £1.5m to fund the club, Heart of Midothian PLC are meeting their liabilities and although the "parent company" have applied for administration this has not yet been granted. The courts in Lithuania could decide that Romanov is chancing it and turn the application down, unlikey as this may sound. The SPL made the correct decision under these circunstances.
No Surprise. If they treated Hearts the same as they treated Rangers, they would not need to discuss re- construction as they would be scraping for enough teams to play in their tainted SPL.
20 May 2013 15:04:47
McColl may be a legend but he is not stupid.
McColl would snatch Ally's package in a heartbeat. Who wouldn't? A million a year no problem.
Can we please leave 'Ally's package' out of this. Some things should just be kept private.
The most important thing is to know who your enemy is.
Op did you see much the same published in the daily record today in the hotline tmwnn
20 May 2013 10:55:28
Good to see your sticking with the academy players. On what basis should black be infront of Macleod?
No chance of Berra coming as his wages would be too much.
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