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27 Aug 2012 23:12:41
Anyone think Derek Riordan would be a good signing, i mean hes a free agent, a proven goalscorer, no one seems to want him, he hated his time at celtic and has a point to prove!
This is sort of player should make a move for with a bit of skill and a bit of pace not al these fat lazy attakers
I agree about fat, lazy strikers. Let's bring in Riordan - a skinny lazy striker.
27 Aug 2012 22:41:17
If ally gets the sack ( hope not! ) then George burley is the man. Worked up through the lower leagues down south had a good spell at hearts. Unlucky with International management though.
Ally is great
Did George burley have a spell at hearts?
Hearts won first 8 games in a row under burley.
Unlucky with International management he was p**h. Leave it out.
He was even sacked by Ayr United
27 Aug 2012 22:19:33
kirk Broadfoot should be thanked for his loyalty by transfering his contract unlike other so called badge kissers and money grabbers and so called super stars , wasnt a great Broadfoot lover but thanks kirk for your loyalty to Rangers football club,
Rubbish broadfoot only been here as long as no c##t wants hi good luck to the team that wants him
Wasn't that long ago you all described anyone that stayed as a legend. Some of you are a disgrace as a support and should be ashamed of yourself. In other words same old, same old.
Do one #2. Who are you to call anyone a disgrace for having an opinion?
@3 It's to do with consistency, he was "a legend for staying" no more than six weeks ago, any chance you lot can hold an opinion for that long? As I said, a disgrace.
27 Aug 2012 21:56:57
Let's get behind our team and support them, there is far too much negativity amongst our followers, Forres mechanics will be a walk in the park, believe in our team through this transitional period wtp
A walk in the park, my god will you idiots EVER learn humility and pragmatism, Division 3 was going to be a walk in the park ya nugget!
Binman says
wait till you go up a few levels in class - the mighty Morton and the giants that are Ayr will have you trembling in the upper tier
27 Aug 2012 20:53:12
If they are the same club ,why have they not been docked 10pts for starting the season in administration
If they are the same club ,why are they not entitled to play in Europe for the next three years
If they are the same club ,where did all their debt from last season go
If they are the same club ,why do they have a THE stuck on the front of their clubs name
If they are the same club ,why did they need voted into the SFL3
Just this weekend the Denier in Chief ,Mr James Traynor even stated they were in fact a new club , whose next to spill the beans of truth ?
Have they realised that its no longer neccesary to spin this lie , the season ticket money is in
the punters have been fleeced and the truth can now be broken to the Ponzi Investors
Keeping to this lie has made them look very foolish ,it fooled the blue tinted mob and no one else, their erses were being handed to them on a plate week in week out.
Maybe they realise that claiming its the same club can be damaging if HMRC and BDO
also treat them as the same club.
Maybe Jabba got a sniff of napalm and realised old club is most definately not something to keep alive ,or he's reached stage 5 in the KR model- acceptance
Ally meanwhile is still wondering why his parrot is nailed to its perch
Denial, half-truths & smokescreens....that's all they know
if they want their history, they take the debt....simple
keep claiming they are the same team, and it screams phoenix club to HMRC who will be more than happy to pursue wee chico for a hundred million or so of his consortiums' many billions!
taco
Some of your points are in regards to companies. We're owned by a different company.
I honestly don't care about other people's thoughts though. I think a football club is more than just about businessmen.
With regard to "The" being in front of the name, go do some research before you come on here. Rangers oldco was 'THE Rangers Football Club plc". All that has changed is the 'plc'. I believe Celtic were known as "THE Celtic Football and Athletic Company Ltd" or something similar until 1994 when its name was changed - for the record, this was just a name change, not a newco or anything similar. Celtic has been in continual existence since 1888, so don't slate me.
The investors are here to capitalise on the Rangers name - they don't care if it's the same club or not. A team playing at Ibrox called Rangers will always have a market big enough to make a bit of money off of.
And what might the response to this be from our former Ex SPLer rivals and sevco cognoscenti possibly be. Hate to assume but something along the lines of. P1ss off back to your own site, obsessed, WATP" followed by a resounding chorus of " booo hooo" sounds about right to me . Please prove me wrong .
Figaro
If were not the same club, what titles are you wanting stripped off us ?
Very very good post mate hit the nail on the head with those points. Maybe the newco fans inc ahem...journalists, (and i use that term loosely ) will now accept that they are indeed a brand new football club, playing in a dead clubs stadium and supported by people who are in denial. Very sad situation indeed, but hey ho that's life....or in this case death.
Ally is great
New company not in administration means no 10 point deduction!
New company doesn't have 3 years worth of accounts!
The old company holds the debt!
We have always been called The Rangers Football Club!
Needed to be voted into Div 3 because narrow minded chairmen listened to laptop supporters and kicked us out of SPL so had to be voted into SFL as procedure dictates!
The only people with a right to decide if it is the same club are Rangers supporters who pay their money week in week out and not some laptop hate monger with a vendetta against the worlds most successful club! A football club is not a company! Games are contested on a football pitch not in the stock exchange or on a balance sheet! The sooner some of you lot get that through your heads the better! Till you do.....54 and counting....WATP!
Obsessed much?? lol
@6: so what does Green want you all to buy shares in? Is it in the club or the company? I think you'll find it's the latter yet he'll do the hard-sell and try to convince you all you're investing in a part of your club. In fact, you'll be investing in his company and for what reason?
@4, there is no one trying to take titles off you, you have never won an away game let alone a title, the titles that are under question are from the "old" rangers for financial doping on the park.
Vambo {Ed039's Note - Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Ed39, lot of zzzzz's there, a bit churlish to say the least, either you agree with what I said, and if so you should have been telling poster 4 that or if you don't Put in an answer that is at least banter or up for discussion.
Vambo (in ally we trust) {Ed039's Note - Zzzzzzzzzzzzz)
27 Aug 2012 21:50:10
Kirk broadfoot in talks with rangers about being released, poor player on good money and will do rangers the world of good as we would never have sold him. - rangers media
Why don't we open one of the blue gates at ibrox & release him. & then point him to the subway!
27 Aug 2012 21:45:07
With broadfoot leaving this surely suggests Bocanegra is staying. Would be stupid for ally to release/sell both of them just before the window shuts. This is a good sign IMO. He was sh**e anyway.
Aye......and if he was staying you'd be saying he was a loyal servant and a quality player. Make your minds up, ffs.....lol lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
This man should get the utmost respect he has been listening to the fans and gave them what they want. Good luck to him just an honest man trying his hardest for club and family. Green bhoy
27 Aug 2012 21:40:29
Evening Ed and fellow bears, personally im very angry with the performance on Sunday, just wondering wat u would prefer a team built around the youth, or stick with wat we've got and try 2 improve somehow, r tactics r woeful, and results quite alarming..... Just a question team A or B? A) Gallacher, Cole, Perry, Hegarty, Wallace(C), McKay, MacLeod, Hutton, Shiels, Little, Hemmings B) Alexander, Argyrou(sp), Faure, Bocanegra, Wallace, McKay, MacLeod, Black/McCulloch, Shiels, Sandazza, Little LeJon WATP
I think we need a bit of a mix. I think we should try and get at least 5 or 6 young guys starting every game. Keep Alexander in goal - an experienced keeper is important, especially in harder cup games. Boca and Wallace in defence. Jig in midfield/up front with Little. That should be a pretty solid few to build around. Bleed the youth in so that in 3 years time, when Jig and Alexander are at retirement age, we have young guys under 25 who have experience in cups/SFL and are Rangers at heart. We really need to use this opportunity to get more youth up to first team standards.
27 Aug 2012 21:31:55
Broadfoot released, bout time, hes been an awful servant!
Whos next in line to get all the stick for being the whipping boy ? doug t.s.o
At least the guy showed some loyalty by staying with the club unlike other money grabbers and super stars
The guy can't play football but cooks a mean egg
He wasnt bing loyal. He was committing professional suicide if he left cos he would still be without a club. Im sorry, decent guy an all.
27 Aug 2012 21:23:25
After exhaustive work by the scouting team McCoist has been handed a 219 page dossier on Forres Mechanics, turns out all is not as it seems, two of them are plumbers and one moonlights as a pastry chef in Drumnadrochit.
Ally is great.
.....and none of them live in a tree house in the forres either!! lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
27 Aug 2012 21:08:46
Flatfoot agrees to leave the gers ssn
27 Aug 2012 19:56:30
Nearly everyone agrees that Rangers were fortunate to leave Berwick with a 1-1 draw, but tend to forget that Berwick were lucky to finish the match with 11 men, after that shocking tackle on Ian Black. Geo the Ger
Got to admit it a few celtic players have been sent off for less at ibrox ,it was as bad as simpsons tackle on ian durrant doug t.s.o
No tackle on black is shocking,he has done worse and to one of your old clubs stars,either way Tummilty did you a big turn
No tackle is bad on black?any challenge on a player that is reckless and can cause injury needs punished are you for real you actualy think injuring players is ok?you really are a mindless ****.the most moronic post I've read in ages.
Black the man that was called every name under the sun when he injured Jelavic.....now he's the golden boy of Scottish Football......finally proof that if you sign for RFC you automatically get a cap for scotland!
27 Aug 2012 19:53:41
Forres Mechanics Football Club are a senior Scottish association football club currently playing in the Highland League.
They are named after a group of mechanics from Govan who moved north to carry out bridge building projects in the Highlands
from Wikipedia - just what you lot are doing !
Paddy Malarkey
On form the night Paddy and true enough.
27 Aug 2012 19:26:26
If McCoist was sacked who do you think would replace him. Don't give me pelters but I think Ian Holloway would be brilliant. Fan of Scottish football used to working on a small budget and wouldn't mind a lack of European football. I know it's unlikely ed what do you think? {Ed001's Note - not going to happen.}
Holloway?!
Do you realise just what level your club is at?
Holloway, honestly, I cant help but laugh!
Sheils at Kilmarnock would be my realistic shout. & already a winner with that League Cup win against Celtic.
In my heart of hearts I just don't think Ally is ever gonna be really up to the job as Rangers boss.
Hamish
If Ally had the resources of say East Stirling how do you guys think he'd rate as a manager in Div 3?
Terry Butcher
I think if Coisty goes then 'the rangers' should Gordon Ramsey in to manage them. I bet he would boot some serious arse and get them playing for the jersey. The players diets would also improve markedly, and Christ help any player that doesn't mark up at corner kicks! They'll get f!*~#? roasted!
Derek Mc iness.
27 Aug 2012 19:34:24
McCoist win % is 58%
Paul Le Guen win % was 53%
Neil Lennon win % is 75%
Mind that gap . . .
Amazing what happens when you threaten refs and comlain about everything. Where did the injury time against Ross County come from, what is it play till you score.
1, Lennon has had how many seasons? (under normal circumstances)
2, What age are you.....?
I see you never put moggas % in, probably the worst of all.
Of course there is a gap,were three divisions below,DUGH.
AJM.
@1: do you know how injury time is calculated? 30 seconds per sub plus time for stoppages. and the time held up is a minimum.
@2, 3, 4: can't you handle banter? lol
Amazing how thickle celtic fans are, most was wanting him to go october 2011
Re: post 1 - I think you'll find that 30 secs is added as standard for each substitution. I make that 3 mins, then there is time added for breaks in play, such as injuries etc. would you like some pork scratchings with your bitter?
@6. No that would be you. Neil has huge support from celtic fans both on and off the pitch.
You ask the Ross County manager he had it calculated at one minute.
Ed plase add this, no injuries in the second half and only 2 subs so you lot do the maths with you 30 secs each sub. Think you will find an extra 2mins were added.
Time was added on for ross county's timewasting. hell mend them.
27 Aug 2012 19:03:03
The rangers v forrest mechanics...my sides are sore from laughing,this seems as bad as it can get,but with BDO soon too start liquidation,prepare for another roller coaster ride as its all going too get worse!!!stevo,ally must stay!!
That could fling a spanner in the works ...
27 Aug 2012 17:51:16
Dalbeattie Star, Nairn County, Deveronvale, Fraserburgh, St Cuthbert Wanderers, Formantine United, Clachnacuddin, Civil Service Strollers and Turriff Utd......that's the class you lot are mixing it up with nowadays and don't you deserve it too! lol lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
Difference is Chrisbhoy, we are really happy where we are, you lot however are missing us like crazy.
As your own septic supporters and yourself have been so quick to remind us of late rangers fc dont exist anymore,so lets play along with this for a minute.if that is the case then this is a team that is newly
formed therefore is only months old and
therefore should have no expectations
placed on them,so by this logic then we
must be doing ok unbeaten since we were
formed,you may argue that we have pent more money than any other in wages for div3,we also have internationals and should be winning games but why what are we to be compared to we have no history as u say so why should we be beatin everyone,at this time we are 3rd div club so to draw a couple of games against also div3 clubs is no big deal.however ur theory is bulls*** we are the rangers we are going through a dark period but we will emerge stronger in the long run,in the mean time why not go back to your own sad little life and spend some time with the mrs instead of obsessing over rangers.
Thank god we didn't get any of them in the cup!
Class something you lot aspire to have. What goes around comes around and when you lot get your comeuppance boy will I laugh.
ChrisGer, you seem to be on every single thread on here, you've actually went beyond obsession but it's ok we don't mind ;) Cant blame you for switching allegiances, dont worry pal I've got a nice new home top and a gers flag on a union flag background waiting for you, make you feel right at home. On the other hand if you are indeed a sellick fan...well my oh my we must be getting right under your skin son ;) lololol
@2,well if you can't tell from your own post that clearly you don't believe that you are a new club. So the banter is all well and good because you keep telling us that you are the same. It's good to look on the positive side of things but you forget to mention that you have held on by some luck against the worst teams and I'm sure you are angry and starting to see ally for what he is....a bad manger lol.
I agree your first season and your 4th in the league that is really good ... keep up the good work... well done ally very well done indeed give your self another wee star
Heard yous were playing tollcross tyres watch out for the wee men lol doug t.s.o
Oh the jelly and ice cream is making my belly ache. I just can't handle any more of it yet you folk keep dishing it up for me. It would be rude to say no! lol lol
Joking aside...and I've said it all along, if it were up to me you'd still be in the SPL, and I'm sure you will be again very soon but I can't resist the opportunity to have a wee laugh at your current misfortunes.....in exactly the same way that you lot would if the SPL champions were in your position. Instead we're playing with the big boys. And we're loving it too!! lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
Hi chris heard you are changing your name by deed poll to kris rfc lol doug t.s.o
Its always wait until....... With you lot. In 140 years time when celtic have completed 264 years unbroken in the top flight our great grandchildren will still be laughing. This will never go away.
Now now dougie..why would l do that??...its called the banter page, not the insane loony page! lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
Ok chris change your name to screaming lord sutch ,you know what his political party was lol doug t.s.o
@ 13)....I don't know it Douglas......but you seem to. Are you a member?? lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
Hi chris you are really brainy how on earth did you de cipher my first name was douglas ? take your prize from the top shelf lol naw no a member but im 1 of the beastie boys snail snail thats the rate your season books are selling lol doug t.s.o
27 Aug 2012 17:22:48
Why don't all you so called supporters stop writing so much **** on every internet page you can, real supporters do not spend their lives dogging their own team, only a select few persons do that, the team is new, the team is basically a reserve team, with a few senior players, Rome was not built in a day, if your all so awesome at football how come none of you have played a single game for Rangers Football Club, armchair experts, nothing else.
Well said Ally.
How long did Rome take to build? Many, many years - more than 25 so Ally's going to need a longer deal ;)
If u pay good money your entitled to criticize/
Your comment is the biggest load of
P!sh ive read on this site. How can you contradict yourself more, you say we have no right to talk about our team because we dont play professional? Well
what have you done that you think you've got the right to preach to us 'arm chair experts'. Go back to your hole you troll.
Sorry Ally ........DH
Well said mate
Reserve team? How many full internationals in your first choice team? Bury your head in the sand mate but things aint right.
Rangers fans talking about Rome in a positive tone? Whatever next? Conversion perhaps?? Have you finally seen the light? lol lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
F sake dont give the tic fans anymore ideas itl be hail caesar next poster from their side ,heard celtic were after a striker from italy ben hur lol doug t.s.o
Dougie....are you following me around? You're becoming like my own wee groupie! lol lol
Typical....no glory of your own so you want to hang onto out coat tails. lol lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
No my hounourable lord sutch 3rd earl of harrow i have my own glory glory GLASGOW RANGERS and the gers will march on and on and on ,too busy putting stuff onto e bay ,cmon get mothballs out of your pocket and spend spend spend like viv done lol doug t.s.o
27 Aug 2012 17:12:47
Lets face it bears. While nobody doubts Ally was a legend as a player and he loves the club he is woefully inadequate as a manager. He just cant cut it. His comments about needing to sign 5 players of quality for the team are laughable. He's got Alexander and McCulloch who has been involved in the Scotland set up for years, Bocanegra is the USA captain, Black has just been capped for Scotland, Little is a NI international, Cribari has played for big clubs in Serie A for most of his career. Perry capped a lot at U21 level, Sandaza scored 17 goals last season in the SPL and cups. While most of these players are not great they should stroll it against part timers in the 3rd division. And if you count the players missing at the Berwick game theres Wallace, Shiels and Clubfoot all full internationals who were invilved in the draw at Peterhead. Ally hasn't got a clue when it come to team selection and tactics, he signs a Greek RB and hands him his debut at LB and plays Perry a CB at RB. He plays Little on the wing when he's a striker. I mean WTF. His only tactic is too hoof the ball. 1 up front in D3 is a furkin disgrace. Don't give me the usual we had injuries and havent had a pre season etc. People saying its a cup final for the teams in D3 when they play Rangers doesn't wash either, McCoist and the coaching staff should have the players prepared for this and make sure they are at the top of their game. We have an embarrassment of riches at our disposal in terms of players and training facilities clubs in D3 and higher divisions can only dream of. The coaching staff are totally inept. Time to get someone in as a manager who knows what it takes to get out of these divisions.
Rangers1
All very good points and I agree with you 100%.
27 Aug 2012 17:06:48
I for one am disgusted that a section of the support is calling for Allys head after a couple of away results not going our way. Yes we should be winning these games and we played terrible but we have just started to gel this team together. If Ally was as quick to abandon us as a club than some of the support have been to abandon the guy that has held the club together when it was in complete turmoil then i really do fear where we would be just now. I can remember a point last season where nearly every tim was calling for Lemmons head and now they all praise him, remember Allys has taken over and been the WORST treated manager by the board in our history!! Now that everything seems to be settling down with a bit of stability then I am sure Ally will find his feet and grow into the managerial position. I will make a bold statement and say that we will not loose a game at Ibrox all season and then if there are a few hiccups on our travels then so be it, we will still win the league this year and next. For those calling for Allys head then I think u should show a bit more respect to him and give him a chance to gel this team together and writes his name as a rangers legend again as manager rather than our number 9!!
Quite correct, some of those calling for his head are completely over the top. He has signed bigger names than I thought possible given our position in div three. Hardly his fault if these players don't produce against inferior opposition. Their fault not his.
Love it - a team of players on huge wages (compared to the opposition) and with top league/SPL/international experience need time to gel against part-timers. One of the best excuses yet.
Legend or not the guy is way out of his depth as a manager,last season proved this and hes carried it on into this season.ally truly believes hes untouchable but what he seems to forget is that green needed mc coist to sell season tickets....if results dont improve green wont think twice about sacking him.
Don't go on makin up more stuff for that is for you club to do for yous. There were not many tims calling for Lennon to go, it was getting close, but the fans stuck behind him only a post here and there would pop up and then get turned down. And ally is no Lennon, and this has been proving in just a month when Celtic took back the lead last year let alone all the other great things he has done. Lennon is miles away ahead of ally and if it werent for your liq problems he would have been gone last year.
Does no one remember ally beat lennon when neil had the chance to win the title at ibrox in what would have been an historical acheivement considering the oldco are about to be liquidated. Surely the passing of that chance by lennon has to raise doubts about his ability in your green tinted specs vision of the celtic way. Im afraid both are just as inept as each other in managing the glasgow giants and are no where near the class of previous managers of these two clubs.
It is time for Ally to go, he is not and has not won enough games and he is working in a results business. The administration issue has kept him in a job.
Selective memory poster 4. Your lot we're raging at Lennon and wanted him booted.
In reply to 4/
You should have a look at some videos on you tube by a guy called limmy, it shows just how many sack lennon posts really appear after a bad result. We are just as bad as each other when it comes to sack the manager calls, stop trying to point score. The videos are actually pretty funny if you can take the banter which you all can of course given you post so often on a rangers banter site.
To be honest its beyond banter with you lot now, according to yous we are a dead club, the new club is not rangers, it has no history. So why are you all here on a rangers rememberance website dancing at the wake of the old club. Cant you leave us to mourn our loss? Its pretty disrespectful and if this is our society i dread the day i drive by a cemetry and see people dancing on a grave celebrating that persons death. Ah aw fur the banter
Also at number 4
If it hadnt been for our liquidation problems i believe lennon would have gone last year not mccoist. If all the turmoil last year hadnt happened to rangers we would have won the league easily, the poo was flapping around the blades in the background at ibrox long before valentines day.
@9, short memory. You may want to go back a watch a review of the season.
Al
27 Aug 2012 16:54:04
The worrying thing about first 2 away games are the pitches in peterhead and Berwick were in good shape for passing football, come October through to April the playing surfaces are going get worse by the week, we can't afford to have ally at the helm when this happens.
From what Ive seen so far you dont need to worry about pitches that dont allow passing football.
27 Aug 2012 16:30:13
If in doubt whethere RFC ceased as a football club, this is a quote from D&P report dated 24/8
The sale of the business and certain assets included the sale of the Companyźs right, title and interest in its SPL share and SFA membership. Following the sale of these assets, the sale of Ibrox and Murray Park and the transfer of the Playing Staff to Newco the Company was no longer in a position to meet the criteria for membership of any of the Football Authorities and therefore no longer operates a Football club."
"
OP, read what you posted again digest it and think about it.
I will however give you a clue.
Look at the word "Company"
Oh the bears won't like that one bit!
It's there, in black and white!
Surely that means that the company RFC 2012 - that used to be known as The Rangers Football Club plc - is no longer a football club. No one is against that view
I'm not sure if the poster is thick or what, that statement tells you what everyone is saying, the company that owned rangers was transferred to a new company which basically took over where the old company finished,taking up the team the stadium the history simple
The last line talks of the old company not the current company
I wish people would leave a tag name or at least try and explain the point they're trying to make a bit more.
This post can be taken in two completely opposite ways and is as clear as mud.
Basically the change of company has nothing to do with the situation as yet.
We will only know the full facts after BDO have completed their investigation.
OP. Feel free to come back and tidy up the loose ends please.
P.O.B.
If it was the company who owned it then why has the club had to start again ?? green bought ibrox and its still called ibrox so why has the club changed its name ??
Why has the club changed its name i thought it was still rangers or are we refering to the company name which is the rangers just like the old company
27 Aug 2012 16:25:51
good afternoon. i asked celtic fans to name their best team outwith the lions and got a great response. gonna try it on this page so who would your best rangers team be?. i am picking players ive seen in the flesh and my starting 11 would be goram,munro,butcher,gough,van bronkhorst,laudrup,souness,albertz,cooper,mols,hately. looking forward to your replies...............bhoywonder
Munro !! Would that be Matt or Marylin. It certainly wasn't Stuart.
We ain't rangers anymore according to you lot, catch you.
Goram VanBronkhorst Amoruso Gough Numan De Boer Gascoigne Albertz Laudrup Prso Mols
No gazza? You joking?
Munro ? dont make me laugh and no gascoigne ;;;cooperboy
Gotham
Hutton Gough Butcher Numan
Laudrup Gascoigne Durrant Cooper
Mols McCoist
Subs
Van Bronckhorst
Weir
Souness
@2: and that's got what to do with the OP exactly?
Albertz before Gascoigne,Hateley before McCoist really???
@3: two left-backs?
Goram, VanBronchorst, Gough, Butcher, Numan, Gascoigne, Laudrup, Albertz, Prso, McCoist and Mols.
#2 - Don't be so harsh. The guy's here trying to make a decent conversation. No wonder Celtic fans come on here to try and wind us up when some of you can't even have a friendly conversation without biting their heads off.
Goram
G. Stevens Gough Butcher Numan
Cooper Gazza Gattuso Laudrup
Hately Mccoist
Subs
Klos
Amoruso
Albertz
Bronkhorst
Mols
Number 6, there is no balance to your team, whose the ball winner in midfield, Stuart McCall wouldn't be out my team for that reason.
Gattuso? Did he do enough in a rangers strip to be in best ever team?
Thanks for the replies chaps, i can honestly say i forgot about gazza but still would have souness and albertz as my midfield 2, getting some stick i see about munro lol, but i thought he was underrated as a player. no 2 why so bitter, seems to me your one of the bitter fans who blame everyone else for the demise of your club. i came on with a question to have some banter and to me shows ur a diddy.about 15 replies and only 1 makes a **** of himself. cheers for the back up 11.....................bhoywonder
Goram,gough,butcher,robertson,mclaren(i.d say grieg but only just remember him)laudrap,mccall,durrant,gazza,hately,mccoist
a team of what might have beens if it hadnt been for lack of form or injurys
niemi,kuznetsov,mclaren,prodan,stevens,thern,j fleck,johnson,ritchie,duncan ferguson,rosenthal
27 Aug 2012 16:07:33
To Stevo, Marko, Briggs and all the other Celtic fans who post in here can we all change our nom de plume's for the next day to "Ally is Great" in the hope that the "not so special one" is buoyed by our support and decides to take Green up on his 25 year contract offer.
A bit of banter bears, take it in the spirit in which it is intended :)
Gaz
Why should we whenever we post banter about celtic you lot can't take it.
@1: thought you'd want to rise above it and show you have some humility. Seems you don't want to and have none if you can't take the banter.
That depends if it's accurate or crap like comparing Ross County to Berwick Rangers.
Ally is great
Lol lol....come on little bhears (do you like that? lol)....lighten up those heavy weary wee heads and smile. It'll do you the world of good. lol
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
Bhears, that's a great name for all the tims, full time on here.
Cheers ChrisBhear. nice one.
27 Aug 2012 15:15:01
had enough.....1 more draw or worse
bye bye MCCoist
no excuses, players manager alike
No more draws or worse, ally must go now, by Friday he's going bring in another 5 or 6 duds or is that fuds?
We have spl players ...and not got a hold on 3rd div ....anyone can win if you buy better players but does not make a good manager
If we're still in the same position come December, then think about "bye bye".
Give the guy a chance to get the team together. I don't like the long ball game either, but hopefully if we can try and get some decent wingers in then that could change.
We've only played a few games. the last few seasons we've gone to Germany in pre-season and got beaten off German diddy teams. Let's treat this as pre-season (for another couple of games) and then see if we improve. Sacking the manager really won't help the issue right now. I think we need a Rangers man to try and drive some spirit into the guys
27 Aug 2012 14:57:57
Scottish Cup: Rangers draw Forres Mechanics in second round
from BBC Sport (I think you can believe it).
Paddy Malarkey
Could not beat kwik fit mechanics on yesterdays show . Pass and move its simple .RS
27 Aug 2012 14:53:55
My team for Thursday night -
Gallagher
Hegarty
Perry
Bocanegra
Wallace
McKay
Black
Sheils
cole
Little
McCullough
Subs
Alexander
Faure
McLeod
crawford
Hutton
Ally will be playing 6 3 0
Why play players out of position again? Cole in midfield? Hegarty is a central defender is he not so why play him at right back? Are you Ally in disguise lol.
Right so you would play a defender at left wing, no thanks.
I wouldn't have Ian black near a gers jersey, I've seen him 4 times now and he's done nothing, black is 1 of the main problems he's giving the defence no cover and not supporting the forwards, what's he really doing cause I don't see a 6k a week player.
Why drop Alexander? He made a cracking save near the end on Sunday. He took us to UEFA cup final not too long ago as well... Gallagher will hopefully be going out on loan anyway
#1 - 6+3=9. We playing with 2 keepers?
Gallacher in goals take it you havent seen him then he could nae catch the cold and for the rest of your team lets play some players out of posistion but i do agree on 442 formation.perry needs to learn to get the ball moving quickly but would not have him in there till we start to play better.ally please sign scottish player that want to play for the gers and know what it means
@ 1 - i take it arithmetic was not your best subject at school 6+3+0
JG
27 Aug 2012 14:27:15
sorry for me its time to chuck ally mccoist dismal performance against berwick ud think hed manage to coach a simple pass and move into the team instead of sunday league hoof up the park from defence and that kyle hutton my grandad is in better shape than he is said it when he took over and sayin it still not impressed with ally mccoist and never will be as manager cant understand why no one agrees paul le guen was gone by now and ally cant win against berwick with the players he has shaaaaambles
Kyle hutton ?? If your going to come on here and slate the manager , his tactics or the players at least have the brains to know their names KEVIN KYLE maybe your grandad could keep you up to date on who was playing ! Ger76
Another tic fan...doesn't know his Kyles from his Huttons. watp. Ally forever!
It shows you how good both players are, easy Kyle Hutton or Kevin Kyle, both are garbage anyway, better with Kylie and Jason.
Hope his grandfather has better eyesite if he cant tell the differance between kyle hutton and kevin kyle god its about three stone ;;;;;;cooperboy
@2: so now if someone gets something wrong on here, they're a Celtic fan? Add that to if someone says something you disagree. You must have a problem.
By your logic, therefore, any mistakes made on here mean the poster is a tic fan'?
Don't Rangers fans make mistakes? Was the fan who spoke about Michael Laudrup always being a Ger when congratulating him for his Swansea teams' performance actually a Celtic fan (they also congratulated Davis for scoring for Southampton)?
And I'm pretty sure all Celtic fans want McCoist to be manager forever seeing how well his teams play football.
27 Aug 2012 14:25:46
Ally PLEASE FOR RANGERS SAKE GO .... you are not a manager and I for one am embarrased at his statements over last 3 months esp regarding the panel on signings ban he could have got those people in personal danger, that and his comment that he knew early doors something was fishy with Whyte!! WTF ? so your saying you knew something wrong when this man DESTROYED and LIQUIDATED RFC single handedly ! (big tax still not an issue it was the PAYE and TAX that bust us) BUT YOU DIDNT SAY OR DO A F***KING THING ALLY ? Why >? your job ? ... at least Grieg and them walked you just kept your mouth shut and did nothing.... george
Through all this turmoil Ally has looked after number one.With his various sound bites and Rabble rousing he pretty much made himself bomb proof.He will have a lot of questions to answer eventually.This latest 4.5% share in the club,did he pay himself or was it a gift from Green as a thank you for backing him?The timing is very strange.
Agree Ally is never a manager but the rest of your post is complete nonsense.
Op and rest of the rangers supporters, do you all just blame whyte? How is dm so inocent since he is the main man who ended your club along with your other legends? Dm seems to have got off scot free and convinced yous that he is not the bad guy at all, I thought yous would see past his plan but seems that he has won in the end after all.
Greig etc probably knew more than the manager ever did though...
#1 - I doubt Ally was 'bribed' in any way if that's what you're hinting at. The shares are worth nothing unless we get back to the top.
27 Aug 2012 14:07:33
I don't think it is a culture shock for just the team and management.
There are a lot of fans who are finding it hard to adjust to the away from home performances. A lot of posts on here point out we have a squad which is still being added to, no pre season work and in some cases training.
Said it before it will be a cup final every time we play away from home and in some cases at home.
I do believe we will get it together and get on a winning run. 26 players have left and 7 have come in. We do not have the spl squad of last season so the expectation of walking this league is not justified. In fact that 'expectation' is probably what fires the other teams up for their games against us.
OP I refer you to my 4.04am post on the nonsense excuses of no pre-season and treated like a cup final. Thoughts welcomed :)
How can fans find it hard to adjust to an away from home performance? What on earth does that mean? Their pies were two degrees colder than Easter Road? They had to stand? The PA wasn't as crystal clear as Old Trafford?
It's the team who have to adjust not the fans and they are on enough dough and have enough experience most of them to be doing so comfortably.
Bizarro statement of the week award winging it's way to you as we speak.
I was hoping that we would have a fresh start to our style of play with a good passing game and plenty of young eager players coming through, but the football has got worse, punting the ball up front hoping someone will get it... I love ally but I have serious doubts we will anything this season apart from league and there is a question mark over that
Well said some people think we are the same team we are not! it will take a few months for the squad to gel it wont happen overnight with all the players coming from abroad we should be getting some scots in who know the score and will play for the jersey!
@1 read your post. It is a fact that the other clubs want a bit of Rangers and will play like a cup final. That is not an excuse, you seem to think it is but is an observation.
Have you never been in an underdog team and faced the big boys/rivals? You want to do them, you're are well up for it and put extra into it. You would let the opposition know you were there. That is a fact. To acknowledge that is how the home teams will play is far from being an excuse, it in fact compliments them.
Having read your post I think you are a blackboard man, technically we are better, have better facilities etc etc but forget to put the human element in, THEY WANTED TO WIN MORE THAN WE DID COS TO THEM IT WAS A CUP FINAL!!
You have thought out your post. So can you list the original squad Rangers had when first put into the 3rd and dates when the new ones arrived and their fitness. Cheers
Just a point about no pre-season, Berwick didn't have much luck either with a number of pre-season friendlies cancelled due to the weather. So its not just your team that was not properly prepared. Probably a factor in us being put out of two cups.
Al
@5 Name me one SPL game arguably one Rangers game ever in Scotland (short of Celtic games) when that wasn't the case, that's my point, EVERY team in Scotland views an old firm game as a cup final and as I said moreso if it's the defending champs, so this is not a new experience for Rangers it has been happening for years and is therefore a feeble excuse. I notice you didn't re-mention the pre-season garbage, have you conceded that one is a nonsense too?
I get the motivated underdog bit, I truly do but my point was it isn't a unique experience for Rangers players. You're suggesting it caught them unaware or unprepared for it, it has been happening for a century at least, as it has to Celtic too.
27 Aug 2012 13:34:19
Gratuitous Alienations
s242 of the Insolvency Act 1986 matters here. Subsection four states
"On a challenge being brought under subsection (1), the court shall grant decree of reduction or for such restoration of property to the company's assets or other redress as may be appropriate; but the court shall not grant such a decree if the person seeking to uphold the alienation establishes—
(a) that immediately, or at any other time, after the alienation the company's assets were greater than its liabilities, or
(b) that the alienation was made for adequate consideration …"
The liquidator thus has the power to challenge a "gratuitous alienation", meaning a transfer of assets for no price or for an inadequate price.
Where a liquidator brings such a challenge to a transaction, it is not for the liquidator to prove that the transaction was a gratuitous alienation, but instead for the defender to show that it was not. The Act lays down that the court "shall grant decree of reduction or for such restoration of property to the company's assets or other redress as may be appropriate" unless certain statutory exceptions are engaged.
Worst case of OCD I've seen today (and there are plenty going around).
In other words Green bought Rangers for a song and BDO think their worth two songs :)
I fear that this, the result of the FTTT, the SPL's investigation, the revelation that Ticketus haven't gone away and Ally's teams inept performances is going to lead to further tears.
..The assets were sold to the highest bidder...it matters not what you or anyone else think they were worth and no amount of digging and praying is going to change that...highest bidder end of....amen!
@4. You're missing the point.
Is the OP quoting law or is he not? (assuming its male!)
Is the OP bringing to light something that could happen, based on the terms that Green acquired certain assets, or isn't he?
They weren't sold on the open market to the highest bidder at all.
Far from it.
@4: but the quote is from an act of law.
4 is the classic hear no evil, see no evil monkey, started to have his doubts about Whyte a month after the Arsenal shares disappeared.
#5 - I don't think it was necessarily the highest bidder. There was no public auction, and I'm sure the rules state you need some sort of auction to achieve 'highest bidder' status - correct me if I'm wrong - but I think I read this somewhere
OP - I don't think HMRC will care. They said in their statement something along the lines of "This ruling will allow Rangers to continue playing football"
...Not a public auction dont make me laugh....if you or anyone else wanted to buy Rangers assets all you had to do was submit your bid in writeing and prove you had the funds...this trying to dig up crap is getting tedious in the extreme...either follow the club ..or dont...or if your one of the followers of the green and grey away and take an interest in your own team...
#10 - I wrote comment 9.
I'm a Rangers fan for the record, and I'm supporting the team. I'm just trying to share what I know about the business side of things. There was no public auction on purchasing individual assets of Rangers. I can't imagine it will come to anything though. Personally I don't see how Murray got Ibrox etc valued at over £100 million. Without Rangers, those things are worth very little (land in Auchenhowie that can't be touched for years, and part of the stadium is a listed building).
27 Aug 2012 13:22:49
...So we are not firing on all cylinders yet..but is there anyone..even just one person who believes we will not win the 3rd division..only a matter of time bears and we will be winning week in week out..imho of course..
Until we meet a SPL team.
We're a drubbing waiting to happen . . .
McCoist is grossly I adequate. When he's up against it he makes dangerous comments. Hasn't got the temperament.
This isn't part of Green's plan and h'll be a casualty in due course.
27 Aug 2012 12:49:55
Worst thing that happened yesterday was the Berwick goal being chalked off.
It should have been 2-1
It should have been total shame
It could have been high noon for " the coaching experts" at Ibrox.
I wish it had been 2-1. I remember the 1-0 cup tie and some players never played for us again.
These prima donnas we call players, need to get a reality check, and thank god Kyle only has a 12 month contract, we need to find a replacement for him NOW
Would be very careful what I wished for if I were you .... the pitches played on away from home so far have been reasonable if not exactly top notch .... that will change dramatically as winter arrives and bear in mind there will also be no undersoil heating to defrost them either .... it's more likely than not that a good few away fixtures will fall foul to adverse weather conditions thus creating a backlog of potential banana skin ties away from home in woeful conditions ........ if the current crop of players and late additions dont get their individual and collective acts together soon it's inevitable that pain will follow in the harsh winter conditions with the expected points cushion rather less healthy than widely anticipated going into them .
Shame on you saying you wish we got beat yesterday, dont think any real fan wishes their team to get beat. Away an watch the cricket pal your not wanted.
27 Aug 2012 11:16:49
It's time for all Rangers fans to get behind Coisty !
Agree , if we all get behind him and shove hard enough...... HAS TO GO FOR Rangers sake....george
Aye in the job centre!!!!stevo
These will be the same so called fans that wanted coisty out when he was a player , we all know it was a poor result but do you really think after three games gone we should be sacking people get a grip stop acting like that other mob ! Ger76
Open season has now arrived for all celtic fans that want gers to sack ally. Don't be fooled by them,they want him sacked because he's a legend and a great ambassador for us during these troubled times. Remember this season has hardly started and last season he wasn't given a fair chance. Geo the Ger
They don't want him sacked - they want him to stay and keep doing the job he's doing so well ;)
As a Celtic fan I would love Super Ally to stay.
Geo the ger; Are you mad? Why would Celtic fans want McCoist sacked? He has shown nothing in his time in charge to suggest he can manage a team. No tactics,no football no imagination.
Answering to 5.) You better believe it! Ally is the man! watp.
27 Aug 2012 10:56:59
the result at berwick was poor yesterday but why do celtic fans gloat do they not remember clyde inverness and ross county from the lower divisions
Like that's got anything to do with this season?
To be fair, those results are spread across what, ten years? Ally's have been spread across nearer ten days.
Lets not forget Falkirk, Malmo, Maribor, Kaunas, should i go on.....
Time you stopped worrying about Celtic and started asking why your team only managed to beat Brechin (after extra time), drew with Peterhead (with a last minute goal) and avoided a loss to Berwick (with a great save from Alexander and a dodgy refereeing decision)!
Also Andy Little's goal against Peterhead was exactly the same as the goal disallowed on sunday! Little blocked off the Peterhead GK when Kyle headed the ball towards goal, yet when Berwick did the same the ref blew for a foul!
Stop going on about timmy this and ceptic that.....get your own house in order.
Maybe its to do with all the arrogant 'we'll walk this league' and 'we'll win every game' bull that you all have been shouting about since the formation of your club
Mikey Bhoy
I come on to see what you guys are all about. Fantastic being in a democracy that I can. I does cheers me up when I read all the posts, particullary from the realistic punters on your side who realise just what a hole you are in, all of your own making of course, and how much spin is put on everything by your friends in the press and of course Dear old Charles. The digs at Super Ally are fantastic, although he seems to be the only one who thinks he's doing a tip top job. It just seems to me when everything is published that you guys should have gone to 3rd Division years ago. It's televised, fantastic atmosphere and top drawer fooyball and you saved a fortune by scamming £134m from honest, hard working business people and gloating that you are debt free. Not very nice really. Can't wait to read more hype coming out of NEWCO.
They were 1st division and Berwick were nearly bottom of 3rd.....that's the difference! Do your homework kid............martyc1888
Did Rangers fans not gloat after Clyde, Inverness and Ross County? Infact I think your having a wee gloat even now.
Think it would be fair to say that a fair majority of them gloat because of outlandish statements such as " we'll go through the third division winning every game 5 , 6 , 7 nil " .... it was never going to be as easy as that and rather presumtious of Rangers fans to assume it would be ........ time to get grafting ,,winning week in week out and forgeting everything else methinks .
OP, I couldn't help noticing your cheerleaders leading the chant of "the Celtic are sh*e".
If your fans are still trying to get one over Celtic fans, you can't expect their fans not to do the same.
A couple of points about the game.
Can we play you at home every weekend? That was our best performance and result this season. Looks like you don't do winning away.
Where did the referree get all the added time in both halfs? Your goal was scored during aded time in the first half and as a consequence (not a punishment) you went one up.
Al
#5 - "honest" and "business people" in the same sentence? lol! You obviously don't keep up with tax issues outside of Rangers. Some companies don't even pay a penny of UK tax yet make hundreds of millions from selling to the British public. Not that I'm saying what Rangers did was right, but please don't try and make us out to be the one bad thing in the UK!
In reply to comment 3 i will reply u tim inverness,ross county,braga,utrecht and ive got plenty more timmy if u want me to tell u a story
@10: it's shocking what those people do but the law allows it. The law didn't allow Rangers to withhold tax etc.
@12 - Pre-Craig Whyte tax issues are still being investigated etc and have to be confirmed as illegal. Remember EBTs have only been illegal for a couple of years. Just now I'd describe it as morally wrong - just like a certain online retailer (and all the celebs etc who avoid paying correct tax).
But anyway, let's just concentrate on the football now. Politics isn't a particular hobby of mine!
@11. Not quite div3 though are they ? Especially braga and utrecht. Keep it up, its fun.
27 Aug 2012 10:12:23
Just a wee reality check for some of you calling for mccoists head already. We are only 3 games in to our season..i dont think u can judge anything after 3 games. Yes our away performances havnt been up to standard and we should b winning these games but give the guys a chance. Its a culture shock, and we hav had to throw a squad together in next to no time with no pre season. Our season expectations are to win the league and go far in the cups. We WILL win the league and we are still in the cups so get off mccoists back.
The guys calling for McCoist to go are idiots, we play top Elgin this weekend and if we beat them will likely go to pending Peterheads result. We have put both First and Second division teams out of cups. This Thursday is another chance to do it again. Get behind the team and stop moaning people. By all means if in two months time things haven't picked up then question the manager.
The style of play and tactics come from the manager he just picks 11 players and lets them get on with it, clueless or lazy
The results would be bad enough in the SPL, but this is div 3. We need a strong experienced management team now while there is still time to sign decent,hungry players and not ones full of the usual pish excuses.
It's not just the 3 games. Remember when he was the manager of the now bust Rangers FC, he threw away a 15 point lead over Celtic and was pumped out of every competition that year.
McCoist is not a manager.
But the fact is , he is not getting judged after only 3 games. do you not remember last season, out off all cup competitions in the first round apart from scottish cup, that was second round!
lost a massive lead in the league, the list goes on. Its sad for me to say it but ally will never make a coach in a million years and he needs to go !
What a load of rubbish.Tell me what tactics he has impressed you with? When you saw him change the game with a sub? Is the football awful long ball stuff?
What about the quality of the football last season? The coaching is poor and we have to accept this.
Agreed mate. remember Livingston in the 3rd div, first 6 or 7 games they were shakey but ended up running away with it....Give Ally a season without having the nightmare of administration to deal with then judge him.
lets face it hes took over from one of the greatest managers in Scottish history in Walter Smith.....Give the man some time.
Post @ 1. as you said IF you beat them.should be no doubt. but not only is there doubt,its quite possible you will be beaten.you are a shocking side with a shocking manager !! dd
Ally must stay.
27 Aug 2012 10:03:17
whats that old saying :
you only get what you pay for :
Black - free
Sandaza - free
Argyiou -free
Emilson - free
Kyle - free
Faure - free
Sheils - free
We have seen 25 + players leave &
brought in 7 frees. We have received
£1m in fees for Davis & Edu, £10m+
on season tickets, deals with Sports
Direct so profits from merchandise
can come back into the club.
So when are we going to at least
pay a fee for a new signing the £1m
from Davis & Edu should at least be
spent.
No fees will be spent.There are still huge financial problems at Ibrox.October has a VAT bill of around £3million due and Green will feel that.The ironic thing about the big crowds is,the admission price is reduced but the policing costs remain at SPL levels,all the time eating into Greens margins.
Remember these guys have to get paid...
Along with Alexander/Broadfoot/Boca/Jig. Our wage bill is probably higher then most of the SFL clubs put together. And why pay transfer fees when we can get the likes of Black, Sandaza and Shiels for free? They were all good in the SPL last year - 2 in cup-winning teams and the other in a team who qualified for Europe. Remember we also have to pay for Ibrox to get lit up/ police etc
No point spending £1 million on players to play in SFL3. We should keep it until we are in the 1st division then we can start building our SPL squad again.
Just read Allys comments about wanting or needing to sign quality players, ---- could some one please tell me what he thought of his signings so far ... i can sum it up in one word CRAP. If this is the case then Ally and all his mangment team need to go, i thought that he was trying to bring the best into the club, - remember it was his signings again that have let us down.
Enticing quality to the lower tier was always going to present problems which is why there should have been huge emphasis in ragards to progressing the young gers ..... young hungry boys with rangers in their blood rather than ageing jorneymen.
What did berwick and peterhead pay ?
We are saving up we will be making money so come by the spl wel have a rather big transfer budget like about 20m tops for new players
@6. I really did laugh out loud. Saving up. Priceless.
27 Aug 2012 10:02:08
Need to sign a few more players by the looks of it, drawing with BR, we had half an hour to bury them. First Div team would have wiped the floor with us. 4th in the league! should be top ALWAYS.
27 Aug 2012 09:57:17
Been traveling from ulster to all around Scotland and Europe watching rangers for 15 years this is the 1st time I can honestly say that the starting 11 are all average players and some don't even make the average mark... Absolute joke yesterday terrible display
27 Aug 2012 09:49:16
Get a grip folks! Yeah it wasnt good yesterday. Remember Celtic couldn't win against Ross county the other week and there teams been playing together for years! Ours probably don't know the first thing about each other. Time is needed if half way through the season we're mid table then get worried but not now you can't win the league in august even with better players you could have pep as manager and messi and ronaldo too but you can't win the league in august! The team needs time to gel. Time to adjust to life in d3.give them a chance to shine and they will and the dark side will be eating there words of rangers demise as we get closer and closer to them again with a healthy respect from the sfl team and a nice bank balance He who laughs the loudest is generally to thick to get the joke so come on lennon laugh away and well see you soon!!
Ross County are an SPL team, Celtic had 11 players out injured and were preparing for a Champions League game.......
Keep laughing son, Celtic's bank balance will be quite healthy, CL money, player sales and sponsorship. Whilst you's are paying decent money for players yet only getting in Div3 money!
Eh Ross County are in the Premier league and Berwick are in the 3rd division! Slight difference pal and please let us concentrate on blooding our youngsters in the SPL whilst we go for the Champions League whilst you play ur best team in every game, lol...........martyc1888
Ross County isn't the second worst team currently in Scottish football, Rangers didn't have an eye on a Champions League qualifier days after the game and Ross County are unbeaten in 38 league games unlike Berwick. Is there any chance of a commonsense post from any of you?
@1 I an we drew against two third div clubs but were in third div?
Ross county are 3 divisions above berwick.
Not more buuuuullsh1t. your team is crap, your manager is crap and you have a go at celtic, who are doing just fine thank you, in that usual strange grammar you adopt, he who this he who that, wtf? how about he who does not walk away will eventually be sh@t upon
you can switch off the under soil heating at ibrox, save a few bob, the big riddys on the terraces will melt any frost. or they should if you let reality in.
Timmy oh timmy get it right we havent spent anything apart from the 5m green spent for the stadium,murray park and the car park and ur mob are paying players on 30k a week with 6m debt over ur head the cl money is to make sure ur debt DOESNT GO HIGHER
@7. Yes i see. Its celtic who are in the sh1t. thank you for pointing that out. It should have been obvious really. Please can we come and play in div 3 ? It looks like so much fun. Mr. Desmond needs your expertise right away.
27 Aug 2012 09:32:15
Mornin fellow bears just a wee point here. WHo thinks rangers shood have an open trial were anyone can go along and have a try to win a contract. Theres a lot of diehard rangers fans out there who are good footballers and could defo do a better job than they overpaid foreigners and wouldnt want a lot of money just a thought pls post this ed .
Darren watp {Ed001's Note - in England, most League 1 and 2 clubs hold open trials in the summer. They work well, so it would make sense for Rangers to do the same.}
Perry is a foreigner wow. Am I right in thinking seven Scots started v Berwick?
The scots r useless aswell judging on y days performance broadfooot looks beta than perry lol the whole team is a shambles for the money they.are all on.
27 Aug 2012 08:33:21
Sorry bears - was willing to give ally & co the benefit of the doubt & hoped he would build a good free flowing football team to climb through the leagues. However as I said after the Peterhead game, there is no football, no possession, no passing, no system, & the new guys seem very poor.
Ally stated the bleeding obvious at halftime that it wasn't good enough - its then his job to change things and MAKE IT GOOD ENOUGH - it got worse!!
RTID, but FFS! wouldn't be surprised if we lose a couple of players before 31st & this performance might have made up their minds to go
Worried
bil72
Ally mcoist hasnt got a clue. he must not walk away.
27 Aug 2012 07:48:17
with an 18mth ban on transfers coming up and deadline looming allys got some work too do get this lot looking like a resemblance of a team and no preseason is no excuse should be pumping teams like berwick.theyve been pumped all their games so far.more the performance than anything else and no stage did they dominate the game just pumping the ball forward no building from the back.im a worried gers fan didnt see anything yesterday filled me with confidence
OP, seems you and possibly many of your fellow fans still look for the Celtic result rather than checking the results of the teams in your own league. Berwick have had two draws and one defeat and that wasn't a pumping.
I think you came into this league thinking winning it would be a formality and have paid no attention to the teams in the league. I think you better hope that your management team don't have this attitude and are actually having the opponents watched before playing them.
Al
27 Aug 2012 04:04:06
There are two small mantras growing in repetition and belief right now that need some closer examination.
1) "We Didn't have a pre-season."
2) "Every team is treating playing Rangers like a cup final."
In reply to 1) Fine up to a point. However Rangers did play several games behind closed doors prior to getting the all clear. Possibly match fitness is maybe not as good as it would be. This would affect first touch, reading of a game, cohesion with team mates etc. I have two points however. Rangers are the ONLY full time team in this league, these players get to see a ball from 9am till 5pm arguably six days a week. Every other player in that league slogs away at another job and then gets what, 2-3 hrs training maybe twice a week? That excuse has all but ran out.
Secondly, regardless of match fitness, there is personal fitness, a seasoned internationalist knows pretty much what weight, fitness levels are expected by the start of pre-season. Regardless of the lack of games the one thing I fully expected to see this season was a lot of Rangers goals late in games, personal fitness of full time pro's catching up with tired part time players. In both draws to date Peterhead and Berwick have finished the better.
2) In reply to the "Every team is treating playing us like a cup final. This evening I saw one Gers fan reply "Maybe we should start doing that too." Maybe he's right. Is the motivation there from the coaching staff? Do all players hold Goian's belief that they'd be playing "fat amateurs?" While he had no exposure to the lower reaches of Scottish football short of the Arbroath game last season (if he played that day) the fact remains McCulloch, Black, Sandaza and a number of others should have been well up to speed on the quality, or lack thereof, in Division Three.
To date there have been fifteen games played in the Division, five home wins, five away wins, five draws. If this "cup final" nonsense was to be believed why was the home win so easy? Didn't East Stirling know it was a cup final? Don't give me the home crowd excuse, this wasn't Parkhead or Pittodrie, Rangers were more than amply supported at both away draws.
Big teams, dare I say good teams, find a way of dealing with determined but poorer quality opposition, this is not a unique experience for Rangers. In such an impoverished league as the SPL every team bar Celtic had the same motivation as Peterhead and Berwick, it is also claimed teams try harder against the champions so there is hardly a Rangers player of last season that is still there who hasn't experienced this before. It's a nonsense excuse and nothing more and any good team would not be using it as an explanation or justification, neither would their fans. Within Scottish football EVERY club is up for a Celtic or Rangers game, you've been claiming it of Aberdeen for decades. Me thinks it is what it is, a convenient but nonsense excuse.
Totally correct the fault lies almost entirely at managements feet. No way shouldyou be rambling on to the press how rubbish we are we are your player choices , your tactics and your motivation. All of these are suspect. If this was ANY other person than Ally (Le Guen for example was BETTER) they would be long gone. Time for a seasoned manager with Rangers at heart still Butcher plays with an average squad but gets the best and billy davis is seasoned at taking clubs up the English divisions AND tactically way ahead mf Ally. Ally is being totally selfish staying as a look in the mirror should tell him how bad a manager he is , back to what you do best tv pundit and question of sport..... george
This is a great post and says exactly what i've been thinking. There is no excuse for the dreadful performances this season. I hate to say it but Ally's ass was saved by all that was going on at the end of the season. Sadly he will never make the grade as a manager and i bet Green believes that too. He should be given a behind the scenes ambassador type role before he is hounded out. I'm also of the belief that Ally lead us into admin with the dire performances in all the games at the start of last season. Thanks Ally but please do the honourable thing and go now!
27 Aug 2012 03:24:45
The most disapointing thing about today was McCoist blaming the players when he quite obviously hasnt got a clue what hes doing
Listen the players are good enough to beat Berwick, so why didn't they. Over the last few seasons we have produced these lack lustre displays when you can tell within five minutes if it's going to be good or bad. They seem to have this slow pace game and when that happens we are rotten. We need to play at a far higher tempo.
You can blame McCoist if you want but the fact is that the players are good enough to beat BR. Time they produced the goods.
27 Aug 2012 01:33:36
Is this Rangers rumours or Celtic (Closet Rangers fans) rumours?
Amount of Ra Sellik on here, social media sites and YouTube videos of any relevance to Rangers and they're all over it like flys on sh*t.
O.B.S.E.S.S.E.D...
WullyRFC
Am sorry but ally must go we are glasgow rangers and no matter how you put it rangers should be able to hammer these teams if we cant then it comes down to ally
No its just that there urnie any decent comedy shows on the telly at the moment.
So you post about Celtic, Irony goes right over your head,worry more about Sally and the 25 year contract
PMSL
Dannybhoy
Its a BANTER site son! If Celtic were in the 3rd division and could only draw their games against "minnows" Sevco fans would be on the CFC rumours site taking the p1ss!
Funny how we don't see as many RFC/Sevco tops being worn in the city anymore either!
Glasgows Green and White!
Its called banter m8. dont say if the roles were reversed you wouldnt be on our site hitting us with patter. most rangers and celtic fans love the patter, the minority of both sides that let the clubs down..........bhoywonder
No, just laughing or intrigued. Or posting to wind up people like the OP.
The continued delusion and heads back in the sand is the funniest aspect.
Not obsessed mate, just keeping an eye on what our rivals are doing. This site has been one of the best sources of information and opinions since the whole liquidation saga began. Would much rather read this than RM. Don't flatter yourselves by thinking we're all obsessed with the goings on at Ibrox either, if it we're Celtic in this situation then Rangers fans would do the same. Just because there is an amount of interest in what's happening to one of the big two from Scotland doesn't mean it's an obsession. It's a freak show and to be honest we're all having a laugh at Rangers knowing that they'll be back at some point, that's for sur. All this defiance and arrogance by some elements of the Rangers support thinking they're the only show in town is funny. Believe the obsession mindset if you like, I'll sit back and laugh more whilst we bag £6M+ for Ki and £15M for the Champions League. £21M in just over a week? Christ!! Celtic could've bought Rangers 4 times over but they didn't, becausethey're not obsessed. Learn some humility and then maybe the rest of Scotland will show you some respect. They we're even having a pop at Rangers on Fighting Talk on 5Live on Saturday morning. Are they obsessed? Don't think so. The problem with Ranger fns is that they can't handle the fact that nothing bad is happening at Parkhead.
Lol not obsessed just love you lot going through the ringer, watching you struggle,seeing your pain and keeping you right on a few things and most of all having a right good laugh! Nothing better.
Briggs
It's called G.L.O.A.T.I.N.G
Goes both ways. It's a banter page. If you don't like it you don't need to read it.
Obsessed? Nah,just having a right laugh at your expense mate.Keep up the good work. E L Wisty.
Think its that yous are the best comedy show running and it justs keeps getting better
Wully while it might not be welcomed by you, we the Celtic fans, in a totally magnanamous gesture, have decided to keep you abreast of a few things. They are called facts and accurate interpretations of events and we have tried to make you embrace a smattering of realism too. Alien to some of you as these things may be.
Just about a year ago the Craig Whyte stories began, did you listen? Erm no. We are like a UN Humanitarian task force, attempting to hold back a tidal wave of stupidity and denial.
Personally I think we should get a Nobel Prize for our continued efforts but alas even yesterday pragmatism walked out the door with some remarkably insane posts in here. But we will keep trying :)
Michael Exadurating Laudrup
OK hands up ....I'm one of that mob but some of the best friends I have in this world are Rangers diehards whom I have the highest regard for ...... the reason this information is being relayed is to let you know that we have traditionaly noised each other up as the opportunity presented itself without fail , the important thing is to keep it in perpective ,, not to offend and remember that it's just your turn ..... it's the same on here as far as I'm concerned and although it's not easy or pleasent at times being on the recieving end you've got to take it and wait your turn for the bragging rights ...... it's a tough as it gets right now for you Bears but it will get better and I'm sure you'll all get ample opportunity to give it out until our paths cross again ....... it's not an obsession with me ...... just banter .
Obsessed with having a good laugh. we are not closet rangers fans. we hate everything about rangers without reservation. there cant be another rivalry in world football where one side has been able to laugh so much at the other as this.
we dream of another success in europe we laugh at you.
We want the laughing policeman played at celtic park before every game.
27 Aug 2012 01:29:07
Some posts on here are utter garbage, common sense would tell you that he won't he's our top score as ED said the Alan Hutton post got plenty of "believable" when it's apparent the journalist never even knew who our manager is. Lol
As for the tim alert, I'll second that.
WullyRFC
CG must be gutted the way the team are playing
Still laughing wully. ally must not walk away.
27 Aug 2012 00:59:56
I must say, when Rangers were demoted to the third division I thought we would cruise through the division but these games have been tough. Maybe like Goian said: the level is higher than expected, and it's no just a bunch of fat amateurs. A lot of players who have performed in the spl no really doing it. Perry today had a poor game for instance. I know it was his first game of the season, but still. I don't know if it's an attitude problem more than anything else. Rangers should have the quality to dominate games at this level with what was left/ has so far been signed surely?
The players need leadership and guidance from the manager
You were not "demoted" when will you understand ?..col
No it's the 3rd division it should be a walk in the park for the rangers, it's ally that's making it hard for you.
Maybe the way to play is to stop launching high balls to useless lumps? Part time players,move the ball quickly and accurately and run them out.
27 Aug 2012 00:10:48
I knew Kyle was going to be a waste of a wage but when i saw him come in yesterday i just burst out laughing. He looks like a binman who just stuck on a Gers top and told to go belt the ball around, how much is this guy gettin paid?
Truly shocking!!! surely we must be able to produce better than that, promote one of the youngsters from the U-19s at least we will get some mobility, also will stop us from just lumping the ball up front, is this REALLY how we're going to play away from home??
Please stop insulting hard working binmen everywhere
Kyle must stay as well.
27 Aug 2012 00:08:32
Ally shouldn't need more signings to beat third division teams. These guys are basically amateurs and they are giving Rangers the run around. These third div teams are going to play their hearts out as this is their 'time to shine' and basically ally has brought in people who are there for the paycheck and not for the jersey. Goin t be a long and painful season if this continues.
Well I said last week maybe Ally isn't really making all the signings.
My guess being that as agent Craig Mather supposedly put in a million to Rangers, he would likely get to dictate that a percentage of his clients at Simply Sport Management get taken on at Ibrox.
If true then its complicated by the fact that Ally has either invested in £450,000 worth of shares in the club (or he's been given those shares) which means he does have a conflict of interest in this department.
BARNEY BEAR
Rangers new website is called 'we buy any player.com'
@1 this is yet another recipe for disaster.
26 Aug 2012 23:52:58
People on here wanting mccoist out are a joke, no pre season, new players bedding in, get behind the manager and stop acting like Tims, it's gonna be a long hard road back and there will be defeats, but I'm confident we will win consecutive leagues all the way. Support the team, we are no world beaters at the moment but we will be back
J
Not with McCoist in charge we wont
These glory hunting morons only appear when we have results like yesterday. Its funny how theres never anythin wrong with Allys tactics or team selection when we win. At least there are plenty of REAL Gers fans around to pull them through this no one will notice these pessimistic A holes.
Don't give me your crap, if he's not good enough then he needs to go, bottom line he must have 3 more draws or 1 defeat,
The players are slow, unfit and lacking desire if that's not the managers fault then who's??
How long do you want us to back the manager ? . He has been given long enough ! - time and time again his tactics and team selection baffle are a joke, - we put up with this rubbish for long enough and listened to his post match garbage for too long. I follow rangers all my life, but this managerial team need to be replaced. Ally has been a good ambassador for Rangers but lets be honest about his team and his tactics ! every week we sit and hope that it will change and we can se some ffootball from the Gers, but oh no ! Allys punt it and run tactics are embarrassing. His theory with regards to Kevin Kyle signing has been surprising, - we all knew we needed players who can hit the groung running, - - Allys comment ' i need more players' beggers beleif ! - - he has clearly shown that the 11 on the park cannot beat a bunch of part-timers. I dont expect to gub these teams 5-6 nil, but i do expect these teams to go away knowing they have played a good Rangers team who can play football. - I for one do not want to see this hit and run tactics currently on display from Ally
I think McCoist should go. Lets be honest you can say what you want about pre season etc. Rangers are full time these guys are postmen , plumbers etc. Never should we be struggling against teams like this in any game. If this iswhat murray park has produced then we should shut it now. THese young boys would not get a game for most good junior teams. Ally, sorry time to go bring in Billy Davies etc now. Even bring back big Eck.
Once again a wee fly dig at the tims, think you should concentrate on trying to claw your way out of div 3 . consecutive leagues lmao, you aint won consecutive matches yet but i suppose thats celtics fault also. think youll find that most rangers fans are embarrased by posters like yourself, blame everybody else for rangers failings..............bhoywonder
Why does a team filled with internationals and spl experience need time to bed in they should have more than enough to see off part timers in the poorest professional league in Britain
Allys job is to select his team, choose his tactics and motivate his players.
Marks out of 10 anyone?
Binman
Totally agree with 4 post time we gave job to kenny shiels knows how to educate players how to play football hes coached from youth to pros would play a great style of play what were all wanting this is our best chance ever ally will always be a god but not cut out for this
Ally must not walk away.
Let's face gus coisty has had a really difficult stint as manager, like no other. He has also had FA money so I ink he deserves the chance to lead us back up the divisions. That's all I'm saying, I really don't see what billy 'iv won feck all'davis will bring, has for sure.
J