Rangers Banter Archive June 12 2015

 

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12 Jun 2015 19:08:31
McInnes signs till 2019. With Aberdeen that is so he's out of the running now!

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13 Jun 2015 08:01:58
Lucky hi.

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13 Jun 2015 09:06:56
Is this his way of saying our job is too big for him?

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13 Jun 2015 10:40:49
I think it's him realising that he has a big chance to de crown celtic if he gets the right players in. One or two could really do them the world of good.

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13 Jun 2015 10:45:50
So he'll be fleecin them out of money for another 4 stretch?Give him his ewe,he's pulled the wool right over their eyes,must have spinned a good yarn.

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13 Jun 2015 11:06:37
Dweeb, he probably thinks he has to do well with a small regional club first, it would be a massive step up for him, perhaps if he keeps improving he may have the confidence to move to a big club. He is doing ok at the moment though. Chopped the bait, and attached to the hooks.

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13 Jun 2015 13:44:19
Oops, was on my kindle earlier, it added the 'w' Deeb.

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12 Jun 2015 19:06:09
McInnes signs new deal with the sheep hearders till 2019. That rules him out. Billy Davis would be my choice. Rangers man that's what we need.

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12 Jun 2015 19:29:29
We don't need a rangers man. We need the best available candidate.

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12 Jun 2015 19:52:18
Macoist was a rangers man enough said

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12 Jun 2015 20:09:31
If MaCoist was a Rangers man he wouldn't be taking £70 grand a month for nothing. He should hang his head in shame. Enough said

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12 Jun 2015 20:52:17
Davis? wull I hope you were taking the mick if not can you hook me up with whatever your smoking

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12 Jun 2015 21:06:57
It's looking more and more like McCall.

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12 Jun 2015 21:40:26
I'll state right here and now if Billy Davies gets the job I'll not be back don't even understand why he keeps getting mentioned!

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12 Jun 2015 22:29:28
Wull go wash your head in the sink . Any kind of business man would take what was due to you. mccoist is only doing what happens every day out in the big bad world he would be the fool not too accept the money . No fan as a manger and yes he deserved the boot but that is business and how it works. This is the norm.

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13 Jun 2015 07:35:07
Watch yourself SCA you've got to hate Ally on this site or else you get pelters and that post was not anti Ally enough for some and no matter how many facts of the matter you give them they just can't see that we were better off with him as manager as without him. We pay him a good wage and for that wage his mandate was to get us to the top division we will never know if he would have succeeded because he was hounded out but the FACTS are we were second in the league in the semi final of the league cup, having already beaten two spfl teams, and the fifth round of the Scottish cup. i'm not holding you up as an Ally supporter SCA but perhaps you can see, a little clearer, the realities of what went on . Pay him his wage and make him do his job or sack him and start again ,not both or half and half.

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13 Jun 2015 08:36:15
Jyf give it a rest. We where also beaten by qos. Hibs and hearts and give a 2 nil lead away to alloa. We where also 2nd behind a team that had a fraction of mccoists budget and had rookie manager in charge

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13 Jun 2015 08:58:27
You're certainly consistant in your defence of McCoist,Jyf.
I must admit I respect it even though I don't agree with you.

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13 Jun 2015 09:51:19
Jyf, tell us, what's it like living in a land of a population of one? You certainly seem to be living in your own wee world.

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13 Jun 2015 10:23:17
If you took a paper boy on and said you would require his services for a year then half way through the year decide you don't like the paper he delivers would you tell him to stop delivering the paper and sit at home whilst continuing to pay him his full wage (and whinging your face off about it) then eventually employ a new paper boy ( whos paper is also crap) and pay him a wage . Or would you give the first paper boy his notice and dispense with his services when the contract is up , it makes no sense at all to pay twice. Or does it hooly?

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13 Jun 2015 10:57:24
Scrapin the barrel,Jyf.Come on mate!OK he's your childhood hero and its hard to take,I get that,but he's never a manager!As for your paper boy speil,you'd sack him for inability to do his job,not the actual paper.

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13 Jun 2015 11:14:09
BV, at least that world is a real world where I form my own opinions not follow what I read on social media. Anyone and I mean anyone that has sat down and talked with Mccoist will know he is Rangers through and through and will talk Rangers for as long as you will, whither he was a good enough manager is a different argument altogether but his silence has not been bought and the facts I have given cannot be disputed.

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13 Jun 2015 11:52:05
gkk he was doing his job mate, his job was to manage Rangers, his mandate , to take us back to the top and we will never know if he could have done that. Was it right that we ended up paying two managers to not get us up and ask yourself why Ally was not paid off.

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13 Jun 2015 11:57:00
Jyf I stopped reading your post when you compared Mccoist to a paper boy! Mccoist is driven by money just ask ed01 who confirmed this in the past after dealing with him privately! Mccoist will never get an other managers job FACT. i'm with the large majority of fans who think mccoist apart from his side kick mcdowell is the worst rangers manager ever! And by the way his silence has been bought

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12 Jun 2015 18:16:32
I would like cathro to be named head coach in charge of all aspects of the first team including coaching tactics and transfers with McLeish as Director of football purely as support and man management as with cathros age I think he will need a influential man behind him to control big ego's

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13 Jun 2015 08:39:39
Director of football is an unnecessary expense for the Championship level we're at. Anyway you might find an inflated ego or two in the boardroom but the idea of the dressing room, that's laughable with what we've got left.

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13 Jun 2015 12:09:27
didn't do Hearts too much damage though did it?

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12 Jun 2015 16:38:29
I have always wanted McInnes as manager, until recently that was. I really think if we can secure the services of Warburton, we really can move forward in a positive direction. Whether he would be prepared to come here, I do not know. He says he likes a challenge though. Before the usual suspects arrive, I am talking different approach in every field. I feel it would certainly lay down a good foundation for the future.

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12 Jun 2015 17:14:46
Why would McInnes leave the Second best Team in Scotland to drop a Division? It would be a Backwards Step & show No Ambition.!

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12 Jun 2015 18:04:50
Aberdeen look to be really backing mcinnes with signings like McLean and shinnie, granted they aren't on Celtics level but at least they are trying to challenge.

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12 Jun 2015 18:08:07
He would do it to manage the team he supported as a boy . To realise an ambition and put out a team that plays in front of 40,000 plus. The ambition would be to take rangers back to the top

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12 Jun 2015 18:46:16
No bad,Marathon Bear.lol

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12 Jun 2015 19:18:50
Aberdeen boss Derek McInnes and assistant Tony Docherty "have a long way to go" at Pittodrie after agreeing deals until 2019.

No chance of King paying compensation for him anyway. going to be the cheap option for next manager imo.

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12 Jun 2015 19:57:25
Balloon well & truely Burst .A wise choice staying in charge of a young vibrent team with a positive future footballing & Financially wise.I take it The team he supported as a boy has no sway whatsoever of him furthering his Career & not going backwards joining a Club that plays the majority of there games V Part Timers. No Brainer!!

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12 Jun 2015 20:18:39
Young vibrant team with a positive future? Can you please explain that? The harsh truth of the matter is that the next team to win the league after Celtic will be Rangers. It may take time but no other team going to win the league. So in reality McInnes is committed his future to a team that can't win the league they are in whereas Rangers will win that league again. So your point about no ambition is wrong and at best a very short term view

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12 Jun 2015 20:22:24
Who said he had a choice? Have Rangers made an offer. You'd probably know tits as your infatuation with rangers makes you an expert on the inside goings of the club. My point was there is still an ambition to manage, play and be associated with a club as great as ours. So keep on trolling and yer still a balloon.

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12 Jun 2015 21:12:36
Marathon Bear . You saying that McInnes should have the ambition of putting a team out in front of 40,000 and bringing Rangers to the top of the SPL . Maybe he would , but maybe he is afraid that the club is not in a position to support him in achieving that and doesn't want to be the manager who fails .

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13 Jun 2015 02:01:27
Yip contacts in High Places,( Gran stays on 18th Floor).!. As great as yours??Rangers are at there level in The Second tier. Another go at the prestigious Petrofac Training Cup will be a Monumental Victory.

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13 Jun 2015 08:50:53
That's a good point Chris.
He's noted the reaction of the fans to fat Allys failure.
McInnes can see the same as everyone else,we're no further forward as a team than 3 years ago,2 poxy divisions not withstanding,and doesn't fancy it.

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Titsup, in normal circumstances you would be correct but we al know these are not normal circumstances, if they were I expect McKinney would be no way near the managers job. I would argue it shows great ambition, taking a challenge and restoring us to the top of the top flight. What a reputation he could build. Let's be honest it hasn't taken him much financial support to push Celtic ll the way!

Still would not be my choice, I don't know the guy from Adam other than what we have all seen and heard. It has got to be Warburton all day long or me and I don't know why we haven't sealed this yet.

I think he would be a success and importantly I don't see him jumping ship until the "job" was done. When is that? For me that will be when we are back in Europe and if not the champions league then the Europa after Xmas.

At that point he can leave with my full blessing

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13 Jun 2015 16:08:17
European Football at Ibrox will take years& as for Champs League The X- Box or PlayStation is the only way that will happen!!

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12 Jun 2015 15:39:00
Saw this on 'another site'. I thought is was funny.
So, a Rangers supporter dies and is standing facing St Peter at the gates. He notices a large wall with a load of clocks on it behind St Peter. "What's all the clocks for? He asks.
St Peter says, "Those are the lie clocks. There is one for everyone on Earth."
"The hands only move when that person tells a lie." For example, the one over there (points to a clock), is mother Theresa's. Hands have never moved which means she has never told a lie.
"That one near the bottom is Abraham Lincolns. You will see the hands have moved slightly which means he has told 3 lies."
The supporter then asks, "where are David Murrays, Craig Whytes, Charlie Greens and Dave Kings of Rangers clocks?"
"Ah, says St Peter, they are up in Gods offices, they use them as cooling fans!"

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12 Jun 2015 16:31:17
The funniest bit being hell's angel not telling a lie.

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12 Jun 2015 16:37:07
It was scorchio today to be fair.

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12 Jun 2015 20:45:29
Ed are you seriously leaving that post if callun's up? What a disgusting vile post that is!! Truly reflects the Rangers supports bigotry and sectarian views doesn't it!
Disgusting!! I would ban him from your site that is disgraceful that it even got posted!

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{Ed001's Note - if I knew what you were on about I might do, but not being a bigoted tool who obsesses over religion, like you judging by some of the crap I have had to delete from you, I don't know what you mean. So instead of whining like a small child, why don't you try explaining what you mean?}

13 Jun 2015 01:00:37
ed001, no worries.

I find it offensive that someone can come back to a post meant as a joke with a derogatory remark about a person who dedicated her whole life to helping the poor and needy because of what religion she was.

But, I agree with you with you ed, it was a very childish response of mine and I my apologies to you for it!

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{Ed001's Note - thank you for the apology, sorry for being a bit, no very overly harsh with my reply. I really still don't see what hell's angel has to do with anyone mentioned in that joke. Seemed a bit of a stupid reply to me that I was hoping someone would explain.}

13 Jun 2015 06:22:34
Ed, I think he is on about the name Christopher Hitchens dubbed mother Theresa. Hitchens was not sectarian, he loathed religion. He made a program about her in the 90s, showing a different side to her than what was the mainstream media view. Has absolutely nothing to do with a bigoted, sectarian view. Perhaps the complainer should look it up on YouTube, and not get his knick knacks in a twist. Or perhaps he just wants to play the victim card. In truth, I think it is a fair bet that she told at least one lie in her life.

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13 Jun 2015 07:07:50
Ed, are you really going to let someone get away with calling me 'callun', Scotland's only true mountainous region should not be held in such low esteem.

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12 Jun 2015 11:51:18
Lets all praise god for thanks that Barry Ferguson and all the old pals like DJ in the press have nothing to do with thr running of Rangers FC

If they had we would still have McCoist or possibly Walter with McCall the latest old boys fanclub suggestion from Super Barry. Probably in the hope he would get a backroom staff job similar to our recent old boys wage rip off having McDowall, Durrant, Durie etc etc

It would not surprise me in the slightest were they to start making a case for McCulloch to have a coach/pension role

New board New management team New players New ideas and New Rangers

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12 Jun 2015 12:08:43
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For God's sake don't say new Rangers. Ah well, you've done it now. Expect the other mob to pounce on it, though, thinking about it, because I've just posted this, they might not. A bit of reverse psychology there!

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12 Jun 2015 12:11:55
I heard DJ on the radio the other night slagging off arrogant Mike Ashley. Not so long ago he was blasting the SFA for not letting him have more than ten per cent of our shares and asking what they were afraid of, Ashley putting in millions and Rangers dominating Scottish football again.

Some of our ex players really do talk the biggest mince imaginable at times and generally cause a lot more harm than good.

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12 Jun 2015 15:18:59
Do you talk for everyone kt when you say let's all praise God?

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12 Jun 2015 15:25:39
DJ, bless him, has a job to do and that's be controversial and get mugs to respond to his blethering. When someone writing a rots column has the credentials of having played AND managed successfully then, just then, I might take notice. Otherwise They are no better (and in many cases, worse) than the members of this site who use it to air opinions, share information and generally have a good chin wag about Rangers and football in general. THEY also don't get paid for it.

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Here, here KT. the consensus amongst fans seems to suggest we want to move away from past players/managers and we have a chance to do that, I just hope king doesn't let us down

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12 Jun 2015 11:37:24
Morning Bears. Leaving club loyalty to one side for a couple of days, what are your thoughts on the team Strachan should put out against Ireland tomorrow? I long for the day to come round again when three or four Gers players are in the Scotland team! For me, I think Marshall is the best of the 3 keepers right now, big and confident. I also think Brown, Adam and Maloney must play with Naismith and Darren Fletcher too. Not sure about the defence and the main striker. Even though Broonie is a Celt, he is strong and has a never-say-die attitude, just what we need for a win tomorrow! Come on Scotland I want to book my tickets for France 2016!

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12 Jun 2015 16:42:04
I am looking forward to it so much, I will be changing an exhaust on my car.

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12 Jun 2015 18:06:48
Strachabs squads are strange leaves out guys like rhodes, phillips, Armstrong, dorrans yet calls guys like bannan, Forrest and Maloney up but he is doing well so who am I to judge lol.

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12 Jun 2015 09:46:59
I would like to see Warburton get the job and most rangers fans I know agree . if king wants 45.000 season tickets sold he knows what he has to do . we need to hit Ashley where it hurts sports direct if we all go in at a certain time all over the land and pick up rangers tops go to the till and offer 25% of what they charge then not pay if there is enough of us it will affect the smooth running of the store

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12 Jun 2015 10:19:35
Give me strength

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12 Jun 2015 11:23:46
Great idea damo666.The Omens favour it.

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12 Jun 2015 12:03:12
Yeah let's hassle a lot of young Scots workers on minimim wage and a zero hour contract who probably detest Ashley more than we do.

Great idea, will do so much for our reputation.

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12 Jun 2015 12:47:25
In all candour damo,it won't work.You'll get yourself lifted and upset wee lassies behind the tills,meanwhile his operations don't skip a beat.
Leave it out.

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12 Jun 2015 15:34:07
Heart ruling head mate. The follow on post sum it up. Imagine it's your wee lassie trying to do her job. would you be ok with that? Demos etc will not help. I believe there is a lot more being hidden that has still to come out and I also believe King was involved previously. The Ashley court clam is a good thing for King on long run. I believe he was going to spill a load of dealings to take the flak away from his little group. By telling the supporters all the bad dealings done by those naughty boys it shields the fact that his promises for election have not been fulfilled. Loads of cash available. where is it? All I've seen is a 'loan' (this indicates it has to be paid back and probably with interest). Need the sale of 45,000 st to cover that. No better than Whyte or Green. If he is so ready to be seen as transparent. show us the title deeds for the car park, training ground and Ibrox.

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12 Jun 2015 21:57:40
Damo666 if you think boycotting Sports Direct is going to bother Ashley think again. That Sports Direct truck that pulled up outside Ibrox this morning was no coincidence. He is just showing he does not care. £5 mill won't make any difference to him but unless he gets things his own way he will continue to be a problem. There will be more legal action from him within the next few weeks if funds are not repaid. I am not saying that they should be but he is going to be troublesome and expensive to get rid of. As for Mr King if he wants to put in money he had best do it pretty quick. The question is will it be another loan or will it be investment? Has King already lost his stomach for the fight? Soon find out.

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12 Jun 2015 09:42:02
The managerial job is becoming interesting. Cathro returning to scotland. I do believe he is home for genuine family reasons. Warburton declining Fulham, McCall still in the running, Mcinnes being linked, the olympikaos manager. It's nice to hear these kinds of things. However it's all rumours. Or small talk. We need a manager. A man to lead us into a new era, and we need investment until all is fixed. Appoint any manager you want, just do it sooner rather than later.

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12 Jun 2015 09:58:47
Olympiakos manager signed for fernebache this morning 2 year deal

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12 Jun 2015 08:35:38
hello, think the people who are expecting cathro as new manager should think about it again, the man has already came out and said he made up his mind about leaving valencia some time ago, can see why folk may think there is a link but i'm afraid that we are going to be stuck with mccall and if that's the case coupled with dave kings press conference the other day i'm a very dissapointed bear, hope i'm wrong

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12 Jun 2015 07:18:36
Not happy at losing out on Warburton BUT that said Cathro is young and very highly rated in Spain, the best league in the world, for English football fans note Barca and Sevillia top 2 in Euro Cups and Barca the best team in the world.

So taking that into account and the fact he is renowned for spotting and developing youth I am not too unhappy he is definately miles better than McCall, McLeish and light years ahead of Davies.

Pro Euro, passing, exciting football is the future and we can go this way with Cathro.

Lets hope that him quiting his job in Valencia translates as he is going to be revealed at the EGM as our new manager.

Next let's see Allan from Hibs, McLean from Aberdeen and build team round Ryan Gault
who is in Sporting Lisbon reserves but the top talent in Scottish football (okay I admit probably way out our price range but we should have players like him and Robertson that the genius McCoist missed)

King prove yourself by doing this and my faith will be restored

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12 Jun 2015 07:59:56
2 of they players were actually released by Walter Smith when at rangers, allan and McLean.

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12 Jun 2015 08:01:34
How have we missed out on Warburton has he signed with another club haven't seen anything in the news

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12 Jun 2015 09:35:14
We haven't missed out on Warburton. He declined Fulhams offer.

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12 Jun 2015 10:26:54
Fulham have have a manager so I doubt they actually made an offer for Warburton

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12 Jun 2015 11:19:48
Gauld will be in sportings starting 11 or bench next season this is what the young lad was told. And walter missed out on allan and mclean. Robertson is priced at 3/4 million currently.

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12 Jun 2015 14:51:20
Ryan Gauld had a 60m Euro clause put in his contract as standard to dissuade the big 2 in Spain from grabbing him on the cheap should he hit his potential and while he won't cost as much as that should some team want to buy him now they have no intention of selling him this soon into his development, he wouldn't come back anyway - would you?

All the other teams are doing their business already, only the really big transfers will drag on as it involves mega millions and protracted negotiations.

My optimism lies in just having a team to watch that isn't on a permanently shaky nail, we may take a few years to get back up to a reasonable level but it'll be worth it if it's built on a solid foundation of scouting, youth and good technical football.

We all hated the "Quick fix" mentality that fell short as we knew it would so let's show some patience and let the guys get it right this time.

Champions League/Sunday Pub League - I'm still going to be a Ger!

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12 Jun 2015 04:40:46
I, for one, am getting totally peed off with the whole affair. Murray brought the club close to administration and Whyte gave it the coup de grace. Whyte put his 'associates' in to handle the administration. The majority shouted out the Yank (who, correct me if I'm wrong, offered more than Green) and the result was liquidation. Green and his cronies then bought the club for way less than it was worth (the material assets alone proved that) green and the rat pack proceeded to carve up the meat of the club and shared it out. This included Ally and his mob who used their influence to help con the supporters out of their hard earned money.
ALL THROUGH THIS, THE SUPPORTERS DID WHAT THEY COULD TO KEEP THE CLUB ALIVE.and it was painful at times but they suffered through it.
Now we have a king and Co who, like the others before him, has promised to shore up the financial failings with their own cash, put the club on a sound foundation along with a long term plan for restoring it back to the top of Scottish football.
Well, I for one, will NOT be pumping any money into share issues, ST's, collections etc. until I see the colour of THEIR money first. Talk is cheap (politicians have been conning us for centuries). That's just my thoughts on what I see right now!

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I agree totally

Whilst I honestly do feel we have better men (Gilligan being the one I base my trust on) running Rangers nowit would seem the right thing to do if they actually put up first, just for PR sake alone.

If instead of £1.5million 'loan' they were, King and 3Bears, to say put £15million, (mind there was an offer of £16million for 'shares' pre EGM in place from them), up front with a statement them saying "there's our 50% let's see 45000 seasons sold to put up the other £15million approx.

This I feel would give the fearful of past promises fans the confidence to trust the board 100%.

Would that be so difficult being that them claim to have had this £16million ready pre EGM.

Thoughts Bears?

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12 Jun 2015 18:31:15
Couldn't agree more KT. The fact that King & co have NOT done it that way round speaks volumes. They wouldn't even have to actually "put it in" in advance - they could just say, "Come on bears, IF we sell out the ST's then we will commit £16 million, that's a public promise." THAT would be a call to action that could work. But no, instead we get "You do your bit - as for our bit, it wouldn't be prudent to say how much input it will take from the major shareholders, as that will depend." That's weak leadership right there.

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