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13 Nov 2022 07:13:33
I posted pre-season where our money would be going and the impact it would have, scoffed at the time though.?
I only will post if I am aware of things. so hear goes. Gio will be dismissed, the legal team are working on this at present, there is a short list as suggested, pending any more dismissals the 3 are, Michael Beale ( problem is fee for QPR)
Sean Dyche and Bielsa (bad spelling- ex Leeds)

1.) 13 Nov 2022 07:58:20
No the board see it as a conundrum, if we sack him it's going to cost 3m odd, then getting a new coach will cost x amount

The league is most likely finished, it's whether the board wants to just get by the season and maybe get a cup, (Doubtful) or have a new manager who if doesn't kick the ground running, our fan base will want gone by the start of next season, isn't as easy as just sack GIO.

2.) 13 Nov 2022 08:58:23
It’s been reported about 3.5 million to sack gio and 1 million to sack the backroom staff but are we willing to give him and Wilson another transfer window.

3.) 13 Nov 2022 09:23:58
How many million to sack the board. Does anyone think anything will come with the American woman or could she force others to make the move to buy into the club. If we sack gio we will still have park. He needs to go as he has now become no different from those he got credit for removing. If we want rangers to be in the same stature as we see it in our hearts then the local businessman doesn't have pockets deep enough to fulfill this.

4.) 13 Nov 2022 09:27:14
Tt1872 that is absolute nonsense. Garrod got 3 years before he won a trophy. Your comments are quite generally ludicrous.

5.) 13 Nov 2022 10:07:13
Livi how will sacking park who got us stability and get some American woman in help in any way.

6.) 13 Nov 2022 10:14:48
Guys
We are no doubt on downward spiral at moment – but I would like to think that common sense decisions will be made at a higher level. Few notes below:
1. I don’t think GVB has the desire to take this team forward nor the tactical skills – yes I felt he was best option at the time but his current demeanour and backroom staff look lost now. How can a team that reached a Euro final look so lost, afraid and disjointed?
2. If GVB gets removed from job then we need the right people making the decisions – I mean true professional football people and not just any board member/ fan who has the cash to say so – NO more Caixinha's please - who will come in and waste money.
3. I applaud those who have kept our club afloat and seen us move into the black for the first year in ages -but the time to invest and build was on back of 55 and not then assume that we were at top of the mountain and that those same players would keep us there for a long time! football is a fluid business and small improvements are needed all the time to maintain progression and hunger.
4. The team needs decimated regarding players who want to leave, those who are now past their sell by date and others who are frankly not good enough to play in the jersey – I also understand we have horrendous injuries and that is not helping (but buying injury prone players does not help either) . Our scouting seems non-existent at moment too.
5. I can take getting beaten by teams only when we put same or greater effort in than them – how many times has this happened this season - then on most occasions, we look devoid of ideas when behind and chasing a game.
6. The silence is deafening from Ibrox – make a statement soon regarding the manager – either back or make changes. – PLEASE TELL US! I would love to know if players are being bought FOR him or does he have any say in those coming in and let’s be honest do we want to spend big money on Sands and Tillman our loan guys – Sands I feel for, as he is playing all over the place but Tillman has skills no doubt but body language is appalling at times. Surely we could do better for less outlay.
Thoughts?

7.) 13 Nov 2022 10:15:40
Live u prefer the present board or fox

Stick by Gio, if people think Gio is not winning league keep him to summer or longer reduces payout considerably

I’d hold nerve based on some names mentioned

It’s interesting to note we were planning to sack Gio in July Gough, not what your post say when we go back and read them.

8.) 13 Nov 2022 10:43:23
I might be in the minority but I would hold on to GVB, at least until the Summer. I also want rid of the Parks Family, they are becoming a liability although the son has been a liability for much longer. Remember, he was one of the characters that wanted Pedro.
We need to also remember that it was Dave King that brought everyone together to turn the Club round and since he left the post of Chairman, I would suggest that things have gone backwards.
I am not a fan of Wilson, that is no secret on this Board. The quality of signing since he became DoF has undoubtedly deteriorated since he took over that role with very few of his signings in either the team that won the league under Gerard or that qualified for a European Final. What is more, his predecessors brought in quality players that understood Rangers and what winning was all about. Not only has he failed to replace these guys with quality alternatives, he hasn't replaced them at all.
We also need to remember that if we want rid of GVB, it was Wilson that brought him in.
The Board speaks highly of Wilson and the player trading model but only one of his signings has been sold at a significant profit. The other two were Rangers players previous to his arrival. Does anyone really see any of his signings making us substantial money.
Worryingly, we might be stuck with a lot of his signings, guys who have no heart, lack fight and don't have a winning mentality.
The money is there. The Accounts Tod us a lot, what wasn't there told us a lot more! Money received for qualification for Europe's Top Tournament, the sale of Aribo and Bassey are all monies that will show in our next set of Accounts. Getting rid of Wilson will cost a lot less than getting rid of Gio, it's just a pity he can't take the rubbish that he signed this season with him! At least we won't hopefully squander any more money signing third rate players!

9.) 13 Nov 2022 10:52:11
I'm not sure about the American women at all as she doesn't have her own money but I'd happily see someone come in and invest.

10.) 13 Nov 2022 11:28:39
It's funny, if I get sacked, it would be classed as gross misconduct && I wouldn't get much, managers/ players are lucky bar stewards?.

11.) 13 Nov 2022 11:49:39
Tjrfc aye he got time because he was building from rubbish, GIO had a team and hasn't took them any further and went backwards, Gerrard was always going get more time, Ludicrous? Not really but each to their own.

12.) 13 Nov 2022 11:53:09
Bielsa being touted for the Bournemouth job.

13.) 13 Nov 2022 12:05:17
Whats the point in actually sacking him now? Were already a laughing stock through out europe, the league is over and were still in november. Be aswel keeping him finishimg 30 points behind the other lot. And save money. Terminate end of season. Hopefully he walks ( obv won't happen)

14.) 13 Nov 2022 12:06:44
Massive risk letting GvB stay.

Gerrard was giving 3 years but the players still worked for him. Tavernier never once stopped running for Gerrard.

Tavernier this season (if he's injured it's understandable) but he just waltzes around floating In this awkward RWB/ RCM role.

15.) 13 Nov 2022 12:07:04
I 100% say hold on to Gio for now. What we do if new guy comes in we lose 6 games, which include three to them and both cup, do we then sack that person.

Stud not performing well In your job does not mean gross misconduct

Livi Mike Ashley is desperate to return.

16.) 13 Nov 2022 12:25:16
Bassey1 how many times are you going to post that? Hows about it was Gio that brought us stability as he masterminded our run in Europe and sanctioned the sale of Patterson if not for those two incidents we would not have been in profit ??‍♂️.

17.) 13 Nov 2022 12:28:21
Listen the American woman is there to make money that’s no a bad thing if she’s does it the correct way like Liverpool there are worth more than 10 times they got bought for 10 years ago not saying we are on the same level but improve the club for 4/ 5 years cash out richer if the club is in a better state by the end of these years then it’s win win people seem to think that when the shares get sold that’s money that could of went into the club what a load of nonsense.

18.) 13 Nov 2022 12:34:45
What I don't get if as has been posted the board where ready to sack gio if we'd lost to livie then why if since then we've lost to St. johnstone and drew with St. mirren haven't they done it before now. I'd wrote keep gio if some of the names suggested as replacements were true but have changed my mind clearly our players are not putting it all in so he needs to go.

19.) 13 Nov 2022 13:39:26
Where has the money went Gough? I’d be interested to hear as you are obviously in the know ?.

20.) 13 Nov 2022 13:42:48
John27,do you reckon they'll stick by gio mate ? I certainly do in the meantime anyway ?.

21.) 13 Nov 2022 13:58:11
John can u clarify what you mean. about Ashley wanting to return. also by keeping gio to save money only kicks the can 6 months down the road.

22.) 13 Nov 2022 13:58:11
Bassey
The bus driver is giving us no stability and never has. This woman is new investment and would welcome open arms. If her investment allows us sack Gio, backroom team and new competent manager I would give her a
line of rose petals. Last year/ current year turnover shows we are viable business. She doesn't need to understand game just give us her cash.

23.) 13 Nov 2022 14:00:03
Livi the fox woman is an asset stripper don’t want her anywhere near the club. But to the others no we shouldn’t stick with gio plain and simple he needs to be sacked now.

TJRFC SG got 3 years because we were in a mess gio has made it worse and the players we have bought haven’t done well.

24.) 13 Nov 2022 14:04:06
Don’t know where I stand on Gio but it’s easier to stand on the sidelines and demand he be fired than the person who has to actually do it. Don’t want just anyone running our club I want people who have our best interests at heart. We have a couple of days to take a step back and take time to make the best move on the management and what’s best to do with the players.

25.) 13 Nov 2022 14:13:57
Gio should be sacked now, bring in someone who can work with this team during this break, it's all about a rebuild now, Gio can't take us forward, sacking him imo is a no brainer.

26.) 13 Nov 2022 14:14:23
john27 what makes you think ashley wants back at us, that crap is only scaremongering, i would rather go bankrupt than let that fat slag near ibrox, also the parks will not budge from ibrox, i personally don't think gio will walk he is here at least till the end of the season.

27.) 13 Nov 2022 14:15:51
Mr Richard Gough, marcelo bielsa is in talks to become the new bournemouth manager mate ?I think we should go for mikel arteta as he's a terrific coach ?.

28.) 13 Nov 2022 14:16:44
Hagi, McLaughlin, Bassey, Balogun, Itten, Roofe, Wright,
Simpson, Lundstram, Sakala
Bacuna, Sands, Zukowski, Diallo, Ramsey, Souttar, Colak
Lawrence, Matondo, Tillman, Davies, Yilmaz
Saw this list of Wilson’s signings a few have contributed but a lot have not, I see so many posts stating we need to get rid of Gio I’ve even seen him referred to as a MUG dear lord, I look at this list and I wonder how some of these players ever wore the strip millions down the drain only Bassey really gave us a return on our money and look at our team now how many would bring large fees in so if Gio is being sacked Wilson needs to be looked at his list of players have been poor to say the least,
If we do sack Gio that's somewhere between 3/ 5 million then we need to find a new man if he’s in a job that’s probably the same again or if he’s not he’ll need a budget where do we find that and do we trust Wilson to find that man I’m far from happy with what’s going on but I’d stick with Gio last home get his players back we would be a stronger team the league has gone every penny ee have needs to go into the team and surely not under Wilson’s watch.

29.) 13 Nov 2022 14:18:33
One Walter, Ashley will be our next owner, if park et al walk away, fox is representing Ashley

O w Walter kicking the can down road may not be daft imo

Millerbrand she is mot given us money.

30.) 13 Nov 2022 15:05:59
Blue- Floyd - Great post ?.

31.) 13 Nov 2022 15:25:49
SWS - Arsenal are flying high at the moment ( top class manager), and if I recall right they went through a period where they had a few bad results but STUCK by Arteta.
Think the majority of our supporters just want an answer sooner rather than later on the future of Gio and his backroom team, and to be fair we have had a horrendous amount of injuries, but should still be beating teams such as Livingston, St Johnstone, and St Mirren.
We have 5 weeks until the league resumes so ?the correct decision is made by the board.

32.) 13 Nov 2022 15:26:17
Coops are you taking the p again? Arteta? Yeah he leave arsenal to manage us ?‍♂️

John is that 100% true fox is for Ashley I don’t understand why Ashley would want us to be honest.

33.) 13 Nov 2022 15:27:09
Twacoos gio agreed to some of those signing so you can just blame Wilson.

34.) 13 Nov 2022 15:33:28
A wee question for the mad people who think that it's a good idea to sell Rangers to Mrs Fox. What happens when she gives us a big bag of money to spend and she wants that big of money back plus another big bag of money on top as investors don't give away free money. We don't have the second big bag of money to pay her what happens? Milngavie gets a new housing estate built on Murray park and Edmiston house becomes the new Aldi in Govan.

35.) 13 Nov 2022 15:48:31
If I am reading the previous posts correctly we have 5.9m and that’s not taking into account the sale of Aribo and Bassey.
Does this not indicate that we are moving in the right direction financially as a club?

36.) 13 Nov 2022 16:15:56
Sorry John27, can you confirm you want gio to stay cause what if a new manager comes in and starts losing games? Surley I am reading that wrong?

37.) 13 Nov 2022 17:21:10
True blue, how am I scaremongering, Ashley wants to buy rangers, my info there is strong belief, fox. Is buying up shares to sell to Ashley

Storm Ashley wants to destroy our club,

Copland r correct plays additional stage payment for Paterson
Payment itten Katic Wilson Middleton Kelly circa 18 million CL money plus the five home gates.

38.) 13 Nov 2022 17:28:01
Yes I want Gio to stay for now, many have conceded league
He gets 40k a week, 160k a month, so to end off season he earns 1.1million to end off season
Plus his bonuses, some due ie CL qualifying

So say we owe 4 million to pay him off, 1.1 reduces it to 3 million

If new manager start next week and loses games many many will want him sacked, so another pay off,

Many want Beale, allegedly not available till end off season, lots think we employed Gio in haste, I don’t but why rush in and replace him if it’s Beale we want.

Let’s not rush in.

39.) 13 Nov 2022 18:21:05
John, for the good of our club Gio needs to go now, the regression under him is truly shocking, this now should be about a rebuild starting with a new manager, you've posted what if a a new manager starts losing but what it he comes in and starts winning, we can't let this mess continue without trying to do something, we're a laughing stock atm, also could I ask you why Ashley wants to destroy our club? I don't want him but if he bought shares in the club would it not be in his interest for the club to do well?

40.) 13 Nov 2022 18:22:17
Fair play john, I must admit my views are different but respect your views cheers.

41.) 13 Nov 2022 18:28:48
Stormtrooper : I agree Gio would have agreed to some of the signings but Wilson would have a list of players for each position and Gio would probably want the best on that list but looking at what he has got over last few windows I wonder how far down the list he had to go to get within the budget, just look at that list some of those players should never be any where near our first team.

42.) 13 Nov 2022 18:37:01
Ok Garry let’s sack everyone players manager back room staff board etc we’re are we getting doe to replace all them? We are playing crap under gio it’s hardly Douglas parks fault. Everyone favourite Dave king has took a fortune out the club last 3 year let’s get him back because we were amazing when he was here.

43.) 13 Nov 2022 18:54:52
Mark, he said we were his toy, he buys us for buttons, then plays with us, he has taken millions out off us.

Every opportunity he sells our merchandise early as he knows it rankles

U say new manager comes in wins games, what if Gio gets 4-5 starters back, wins games.

44.) 13 Nov 2022 18:56:33
G1 I get both sides off argument as well,

45.) 13 Nov 2022 19:22:41
I think your 100% right there storm 50% wage if sacked and I would add I think board know they are partly culpable for current situation and are willing to take the hit and give gio a proper transfer window and chance to get a few players back my concern is it's too late they might also be doing it so there is no pressure on them to give a new manager transfer funds in January and could see gio getting sacked early February.

46.) 13 Nov 2022 19:26:33
If he gets the chance of getting 4/ 5 starters in when we come back I honestly don't think it will make much of a difference unless he changes his tactics, I've seen little in the league to suggest he can turn it around, I just can't see what he offers us in the league.

47.) 13 Nov 2022 19:47:48
That’s a good well rounded post for keeping gio John I don’t agree with it but you do put it across very well.

48.) 13 Nov 2022 19:48:42
Bassey it’s the boards fault for not strengthening the board need to take some flak also they are not innocent in all of this.

49.) 13 Nov 2022 19:59:50
I hear the arguments reference Arsenal and Arteta however I understand that Arteta has been 100% involved in every player signed and has the final say on who comes in. He isn't part of a committee deciding on players and he certainly doesn't have to rely on the incompetent scouting network that we have at Rangers these days. One look at the quality of player signed by Wilson simply goes to emphasise that Wilson and his cohorts are not the answer when it comes to identifying quality players.
I await the argument that we don't have the money however I would argue against this based at the very least on the number of decent quality Bosmans available. With the right manager and the right Chairman you can secure these players as has been proved in the past. Wilson simply has a limited network and is an Agent's godsend for getting a good payoff for injury prone players and players that are just not good enough.

50.) 13 Nov 2022 20:18:06
Walter got for arteta whos currently romping the EPL? ????.

51.) 13 Nov 2022 20:30:08
Storm thanks. It’s all about opinions, that’s my take in it at present,

Berkshire is Gio a liar, he says he has approved every signing for first team since he arrived at Rangers.

52.) 13 Nov 2022 20:38:38
This season is written off.

Must we write off next season or the following season too?

Celtic 4, 5 or 6 a row before the emergency button is pressed again?

No there is a problem we must “cut our loses” now!

53.) 14 Nov 2022 02:32:33
Livi bear are you mental all Americans do is pick the ub clean all money would go to shareholders and not back into team . disaster if Americans get in charge.

54.) 14 Nov 2022 02:35:08
John I generally agree with you and storm but on gio saying he agreed them what the ? else is he going to say?

Anything else would make him look weak to press fans and players

It's also called towing the party line you know that thing all managers do.

55.) 14 Nov 2022 02:38:01
Agree struth think the board are guilty of giving up on league when gap was 4 points instead of recruiting free defender we might have gotten to break with 4 point gap in tact instead because of inaction it's now more than double to 9 points

Good job park Wilson and co. ??.

30 Jun 2022 08:03:41
Morning all
It appears my first ever post was scoffed at by most people last week, clearly I was correct in what I posted! Especially with the recruitment announcement yesterday regarding an influx of youth players recruited.
At present the situation is we a very small budget to work with until we either sell or qualify for champs league.
The reason for the limited budget available is the loans that were given to the club by the bigger players behind the scene are in the process of being paid back, shares were created for those who loaned the club but are potentially worthless for anyone making a return on them.
The business model was always to be self sufficient and our earnings from last season has given us a crack at it.
The youth are going to be given the chance to step up whether you like it or not.
If we do not or cannot sell we will bring in a forward for a max £2:5m or a loanee.
Every Other Saturday ???????????????????????.

1.) 30 Jun 2022 08:27:57
You were scoffed at because the transfer window has barely opened and yet you have written the executive summary.

I’m sure you’ll re-write it at the end of the window and correct your theories.

2.) 30 Jun 2022 08:30:24
Very sensible post; I also think Ashley got millions off us unfortunately.

3.) 30 Jun 2022 08:39:23
Unfortunately, u are best guessing mate

With a glass half empty mentality

Have some patience, where u may be surprised in what u see.

4.) 30 Jun 2022 08:50:06
So the club gave the investors shares as payment and are now paying them back for a second time? If that's the case then sack the board but I simply don't believe that's true.

5.) 30 Jun 2022 08:56:50
Richard, sounds reasonable to me. I calculated a profit in the region of £18.6m for the current financial year (interested to see how accurate that calculation actually is when the accounts are published) . I mentioned the loans which require to be repaid, but the agreement was they do not have to be repaid asap, but nevertheless I would imagine the club would want to repay these loans from the profits generated from the Euro run. So yes not much available funds but I expect the club to be able to afford to sign two players in the region of £2 to £3m without selling (colak being one), but selling would generate additional funds for Gio. Repaying the loans puts the club on a better footing going forward. Champions league qualification would a huge bost financially.

6.) 30 Jun 2022 09:00:38
DeBoer some on here like to ignore reality when it comes to rangers finances.

7.) 30 Jun 2022 09:28:22
Yes your post doesn’t make sense maybe that’s why how would the people who have loans to club be paid in shares then money.

8.) 30 Jun 2022 09:44:11
Storm not all loans were converted to shares.

9.) 30 Jun 2022 09:47:20
The Ibrox club’s vice-chairman is one of the main sources of loans which mitigate the ongoing annual losses the Scottish champions continue to record.

Along with chairman Douglas Park, Bennett has already stumped up the £7.5 million needed to meet this season’s shortfall after Rangers posted a deficit of just over £24 million in their most recent accounts.

While many of the loans from directors and other Rangers-supporting investors are converted to equity, some are made on repayment terms!

10.) 30 Jun 2022 09:49:48
I’m not savvy on the financial side of things
But it does seem so far we are operating on a small budget maybe it is to do with paying back loans etc

But to make it to champions league we need to spend so I don’t know what direction we’re heading

Do we try stick with same squad that wasn’t good enough to win the league and get us straight into the champions league proper
Do we try and stick with the same current squad that came up short in depth when players got injured and we had no real quality to replace them with?

I’m all for the club being good with the cash and standing on our own feet
But we also need to invest to make the money to put us on a sound footing and without the champions league and winning the league.
Celtic go way ahead of us once more and we don’t make the money needed for a club our size
We need to invest and invest wisely on quality players who can come in and help us achieve what I said above
If anything Atleast win the league this coming season
if players want to leave and don’t get the moved they want are they going to drop performance and there fight for our manager and club? It may sound crazy but we have all seen players down tools when they don’t get what they want and we can’t afford that either.
seems we’re stuck between a rock and hard place
I say come to some agreement with the loans and see whoever can hold off on getting money back and use it to invest and give Gio a real crack at this?

11.) 30 Jun 2022 10:10:11
The shares are worthless; in what world do rich people spend their millions without wanting anything back? It's a world of greed we live in, so why would the Rangers investors be any different?

{Ed001's Note - they wouldn't have taken them in that case, they clearly feel that investing now in something worth little will bring them a greater return in the future. It is like those people who invest big money in start ups in return for a %age of the company. It is worth nothing when they put their money in, so their %age is technically worthless, but it is about what it will become worth. They hope it will become worth anyway.}

12.) 30 Jun 2022 10:21:48
Fair enough Ed but the way Scottish football is going do you honestly see an upturn in share prices?

{Ed001's Note - it would require the club to stay profitable and competitive in Europe, so it will be difficult. Priority to being worth more is profitability.}

13.) 30 Jun 2022 10:36:19
Correct ED, who in their right mind would invest their hard earned cash in return for something considered to be worthless. Its an investment with the expectation of greater returns further down the road. Investors may be Rangers supporters at heart, but they are also successful business people with an eye for a profit.

14.) 30 Jun 2022 11:07:06
Let’s not forget all the people who deferred wages during C.V.. Have they been paid.

15.) 30 Jun 2022 11:09:11
I would suggest that it is all guess work at present and we will not really know the true facts until we see this Year's Annual Accounts.
I would be disappointed if all we made after selling Patterson, receiving compensation for Gerrard, selling Itten and the run in Europe, which brought in significant money, was £18.5m unless our outgoings have been greater than I have assumed.
That could be as a result of a number of items but again we will not know until we see the Annual Accounts and that will be the time to ask questions.

As for Investment, I can see benefits to investing in Rangers since the Club has a wide coverage internationally and European Competition is a significant aspect of that, but as an Individual the only reason I can see is that you are a supporter of the Club. As a Company, Rangers are an excellent 'investment' in terms of Marketing and PR but in terms of Share Appreciation it just isn't going to happen.

Investing in an English Football Club, even a club in the National League, has more potential than a Club in Scotland and this sadly will not change until there is a fundamental change in the way that Scottish Football is run. Too many people with their own self interests will ensure that this never happens!

As for incoming players, bringing in Youth Players seems to be the way forward since we appear to be very clever at picking up quality up and coming players, 20 year olds and younger however we don't appear to be quite as clever at bringing in so called proven players in their mid 20's. This can be seen from our European Final Team where few of the players in that Team have been brought in recently.

16.) 30 Jun 2022 11:15:24
I bought some brewdog shares and if I don't like what they are worth I can simply get my money back and keep my shares! Brilliant!

17.) 30 Jun 2022 11:24:57
Replying directly to yourself richard gough, for the sake of clarity in your post, are you saying previous loans given back as shares (which could be potentially worthless i believe you said) are now being turned into shares, or loans given in recently are being repaid and not turned into shares as previously?

18.) 30 Jun 2022 11:30:24
Separating the financial to player, i agree we have to get into this bringing through the youth, it will help us in future to keep talent such as young Rory Wilson who has felt he had to move on, I know there is great anxiety about this amongst us, however Auchenhowie was built because of Advocates demanding so or he wouldn't sign new contract, let's see us use it the way the dutch do. over to you gvb, ps still trying to recover from Sevilla, i'm getting old pmsl.

19.) 30 Jun 2022 11:51:36
Quite a few on here seem to be obsessed with our finances right now, starting to sound like the other sides fans.

We need to be sustainable and investing in the future along with maintaining our ability to compete domestically and in Europe without overspending.

I will wait till the end of the window and judge how well or not it has went then, along with the qualifiers.

20.) 30 Jun 2022 12:03:49
Agree bee82.

21.) 30 Jun 2022 12:18:44
Honestly think that if you don't understand corporate finance you should stay clear of commenting about it.

I don't see anyone commenting on the complexities of Hagis injury when they know nothing about sports science but lots deem it appropriate to spout nonsense about the clubs finance BECAUSE we haven't spent any serious money on a player with 55 days left of the transfer window!

Too many negative posters who refuse to miss an opportunity to take the glass half-empty version of the clubs affairs.

22.) 30 Jun 2022 12:42:31
Dk sorry to be pedantic 61 days although I do like 55

I’d love to know when we allegedly gave Ashley a few million, was it last twelve months.

23.) 30 Jun 2022 12:58:10
Well said DK19.

24.) 30 Jun 2022 13:02:23
Couldn't agree more DK. It so important it's the right investment as well - the other lot have shelled out big money on another LB. they've signed a fair few over the last few years, arguably none of them have worked out, whilst our investment in Barisic have proven astute. Big money and big headlines doesn't mean anything. We need to trust the people in charge and support the signings. moaning before the window has even opened is pretty grim.

25.) 30 Jun 2022 13:04:47
I think the problems with not spending early were seen in last year's Champions League qualifiers and were one of the reasons Gerrard left. I think we need to be very careful that we give the squad the freshness that it requires to evolve.

26.) 30 Jun 2022 13:25:55
Think people are just commenting on a post by a poster and debating what there thoughts are on it all DK
it’s what’s the sites all about surely?

If we all decided not to reply because like myself who doesn’t t understand corporate finance what’s the point in the poster putting up the original post if no one can reply?

What’s wrong in saying we would all like the club to bring in new players faster than it’s taking? It’s a talking point
It’s a debate and a chance to talk to fellow bears no point coming on and demanding we don’t talk none sense about things we don’t know or understand the site would be a very lonely place surely?

for me personally I like to see everyone’s thoughts on all things rangers good and bad it’s a read that passes some of my quiet time whwn I get a chance and also a chance like I say to reply to fellow bears whether I know what I’m talking about or not it’s just people talking to each other and keeping each other company at the end of the day.

so if no one minds I’m going to reiterate what I said I hope we invest in quality players to bring us success this year and give GVB a real crack at showing what’ll did team he can put together to get the league back
whether that’s right or wrong of me to want it’s my opinion and desire the club can. Manage to do that

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27.) 30 Jun 2022 13:30:45
As weird as it may sound, I'm a data scientist (yes, its a real thing) and I predominantly work in the world of finance - although I have been doing some consulting with one of the data platforms used for player analytics.

Like any data, people tend to see what they want to see when looking at Finances.

I think we'll be holding off any major transfer moves until we know the end game for Aribo, Kent and Morelos.

28.) 30 Jun 2022 13:53:50
With regard to people making money out of football clubs, I believe Simon Jordan hit the nail on the head. The best way to make a small amount of money from a football club is to invest a huge amount of money! Having said that, there are plenty companies and investors putting money our way just now so maybe just maybe there is something happening here!

{Ed001's Note - Simon Jordan is just a moron. Plenty of people make money out of investing in football, just not him. That old adage is out of touch with the modern era and dates from a time when the running of football was amateur. There is a reason so many investment houses are now buying chunks of football clubs around the world and it isn't because they want to lose money.}

29.) 30 Jun 2022 13:58:40
@2Blue

What figures are u calculating a profit of £18.6 mil

Would love to see all your guesstimates on a spreadsheet

Unless your our accountant then u have no basis in relaying that figure.

30.) 30 Jun 2022 14:23:09
A wee reminder of the new financial rules replacing the Financial fair play rules the books will be scrutinized every Quarterly to make sure the bills are being paid we will be spending less from 2023 season we can spend 90% 2023/ 24 season 80% 2024/ 25 season 25/ 25 season of our revenue the rules are in place as of now. That would explain why we have been restraint in the last few windows and will be for some time which is why we have targeted Youth.

31.) 30 Jun 2022 14:32:45
I forgot to say 25/ 26 season it's 70%.

32.) 30 Jun 2022 14:42:01
2blue what loans weren’t paid back then?

33.) 30 Jun 2022 14:46:07
Sydney 2 blue is guessing just like we all are.

2 blue I didn’t say all loans were repaid by loans maybe read slower.

I said why would loans that were converted to shares have to be paid as well.

34.) 30 jun 2022 15:31:43
very noticeable to me

the op hasn’t said another word
the 2 posters who have supported his theory have scarcely, if ever had a good word to say about rangers, ever.

35.) 30 Jun 2022 15:36:17
No DK the site is full of people with different opinions in which you disagree with.

36.) 30 Jun 2022 15:58:32
Sydney Ger i have worked in UK top ten accounting firm for 17 years and worked for corporate companies so i'm not talking garbage, problem being I do not work for Rangers so do not have access to all the financial information hence I stated its a rough estimate based on what i do know. Storm loans converted to shares do not have to be repaid but there are loans which have not been converted to shares and do have to be repaid. As stated I am estimating profit with a blindfold on so its to be taken with a pinch of salt.

37.) 30 Jun 2022 16:03:13
Sweep, everyone entitled to their view and I, like everyone else is entitled to comment.

My point is that you and others ALWAYS take the glass half empty position even when there is no EVIDENCE to validate your opinion.

The transfer window is barely open, players and staff have mostly just returned from holiday and yet because we haven't made a big signing you and others automatically take the view that we are not going to spend BECAUSE we have no money or the board are keeping is for themselves.

Just my opinion but I think your (and others) pre-judged, uninformed and baseless opinion is wrong and not indicative of someone who supports the club in the manner that the club deserves.

38.) 30 Jun 2022 16:56:24
RG I said pretty much the same thing and was laughed at too sell before buy. but I'd be ok with it if it means giving Lowry and co a shot rather than sub standard players. You don't have to pay big fees to get good standard players but you have to do your homework early and take a few gambles.

39.) 30 jun 2022 17:42:56
imo

this post was put here to encourage undertoughts of impending doom, a couple, who never need any encouragement to bring the devil to the door have been quick to endorse the op opinion

he has no evidence and hasn’t said anything more

il trust the people who have taken us from a basket case to european finalists, thanks.

40.) 30 Jun 2022 19:14:17
Without these baseless supporters which they are many for football clubs around the world the clubs may not survive without there baseless financial support ?
Maybe there baseless financial support is really not needed therefore should we all stop spending our baseless money and stop our baseless opinions on sites like this and see how long they all survive without it?
Just a thought? ?.

26 Jun 2022 08:08:46
Morning bears, first time post, in terms of new signings everyone better hold their breath as there will be no business unless one or all of the "famous" 5 move on or sign new deals, F5= Aribo, Buff, Kent, Barasic, Kamala.
In addition to this Gio is looking to access several existing players from Monday onwards to determine their future, Katic being the most well known but a number of the kids will be given a chance to impress with Lowry being groomed for the number 10 position to rotate with Hagi,
So immediate signing will depend on the above.
We tampered with our formation with Gio last season which worked well at times, it is my understanding that he will be working heavily on a 3 - 5 - 1 - 1 formation.
Hopefully we can push on and have a great season, but remember making up a CL squad will be difficult with the players trained at club rule and players trained in nation rule, this is why Gio is so keen to see what some of our talented kids are about.
Before some people shoot this done you must recall other Liam spells that were unsuccessful, Beckham at Preston for example
WATP.

1.) 26 Jun 2022 08:55:35
What Lol.

2.) 26 Jun 2022 09:05:06
Be better selling kent them no wingers in that team 3 cb and rwb lwb.

3.) 26 Jun 2022 09:15:45
how can anyone believe these bold statements you’re making when this is your first post. I don't believe it mate.

4.) 26 Jun 2022 09:28:34
John what do you have to say to that? No signings?

5.) 26 Jun 2022 09:30:12
Your famous 5 doesn't even include bassey but it includes a wrestler from the early 90’s stop talking mince.

6.) 26 Jun 2022 09:32:57
Could be correct, it is not a case of no cash to spend we made loads last season, must be transfer funds in the bank, but it does not make sense to add additional salries to the payroll without offloading a player or two first, and this depends on offers coming in, so wouldn't trash his post.

7.) 26 Jun 2022 09:44:16
Don’t agree, so far have signed Souttar, Arfield, Davis McGregor Lowry Lovelace
More to come.

8.) 26 Jun 2022 09:51:31
It's a Rumours page mate so I'll go with you. I think you're right with the youth being looked at its the path that dutch have taken at other clubs hope we do look at bringing 2 maybe 3 up to full squad. Money saved and from what John and the rest on here that have been watching the b team it sounds like they are better prepared to do so. We have a player trading model so I think it would make sense to cash in on Aribo or kamara I still have a feeling buff might go this window just because he's getting to the age where if he wants a crack at one of the big leagues times ticking and he's last year of contract hope not though. Players in Gough I think we were a couple of players light last year it was probably the difference between winning more silverware and not. I think we ll bring in another striker rw and cb if helander and katic don't make the grade. Possibly a gk too depending on how much game time mcgregor us expecting. It'll probably be a couple of new players and replacements for anyone who leaves.

9.) 26 Jun 2022 09:54:20
Not sure if this rumour is true or not

But it’s been worrying me that we have a squad to get together for the qualifying rounds and we haven’t managed to bring any new signings yet
Gerrard always done his business early
I’m worried Gio is not getting same backing?
We don’t seem to be showing we have money to put in solid transfer offers for anyone Gio might want

Now if I’m wrong then the club playing a dangerous game by waiting so long to go for anyone surely we had a list of potential players Gio wanted to improve the squad? Why are we waiting so long
A lot of folk I know are saying we don’t have a lot of money to spend? That we do actually have to sell to bring in new players

So does anyone know for a fact? What our financial situation is?

And does anyone know for a fact we can bring players in without the famous 5 as it out above need sold to finance new signings?

10.) 26 Jun 2022 10:07:09
It’s nonsense. Signings will be made no matter what happens with they 5.

11.) 26 Jun 2022 10:09:57
When rangers sign a player. We are the last to know. In recent years, wilson has proved to be a discreet operator.

The social media articles are all clickbait. That’s players out and players in.

Remember we all knew Goodson was away lol.

Who saw Ramsay or Diallo coming?

McGregor was definitely retiring.

People coming on here pretending they know what’s happening behind the scenes lol.

12.) 26 Jun 2022 10:21:31
I think this is a very sensible post apart from Kamara who signed a new contract the other 4 mentioned could easily leave if new contracts don't get signed. It's clear as day we don't have much money to spend and most of our business will be done be selling players.

13.) 26 Jun 2022 10:30:07
Stop panicking, plenty of activity over next 12 days in and out.

14.) 26 Jun 2022 10:49:00
With Morelos, Aribo and Kent its not about needing to sell them so we can add to the squad. Its about needing to sell them as they are entering final year of contract and if they don't sign new deals, they can leave us for free! There is no way we will allow all 3 of them to play out the season then walk away for free next summer. If they don't commit to new deals then we need to try and shift them this summer.

15.) 26 Jun 2022 11:07:07
Made me laugh there Colshy ?

Not sure how Barasic is one of the five because we really wouldn't get a big fee for him if he goes.

16.) 26 Jun 2022 11:11:02
Sorry sweep1 I don't really understand your " it's clear as day we don't have much money to spend " comment, On what basis can you judge our budget on? Without meaning to be rude comments like that I'd expect from Celtic fans, again no disrespect meant but I'm guessing you have absolutely no idea what our budget is but just presuming cause we aren't shouting our business from the rooftops or signed anyone as quick as you'd hoped.

17.) 26 Jun 2022 11:18:09
Before signing anyone new I'd rather we got Alfredo signed up along with kent.

18.) 26 Jun 2022 11:28:22
Would have to agree, don't believe we will make a first team signing unless we get series money from a player sold first, believe it will be new contracts and players for the future until then as we have being doing since the window opened.

19.) 26 Jun 2022 11:51:10
John, Soutar was signed last season, lovelace is unlikely to feature in the first team this season, Lowry, Arfield and Davis were all here last year, we are looking for new quality signings to boost the first eleven and take us to a new level. On that basis we have not as yet signed anyone.

20.) 26 Jun 2022 12:00:47
There will be signings… I would rather we get the right players rather than over paying and panic buying… I would think there must be discussion with Morelos, Kent, Aribo regarding new deals before any business will be completed… as if signing new deals they will be getting a significant signing on fee… that’s the way it works ….

21.) 26 Jun 2022 12:02:24
GJD83 I see things differently from you but doesn't mean you need to throw the celtic comment in. We are only interested in frees or bargain basement signings of 2 million. It's not exactly rocket science that we don't have money to spend.

22.) 26 Jun 2022 12:07:10
Until I see a change in our transfer dealings of bargain basement and free transfers then I'll believe we don't have much money to spend.

23.) 26 Jun 2022 12:17:26
We will not sign anyone of note until we qualify for the chap league. Unless we sell then may.

24.) 26 Jun 2022 12:53:24
Where is all the European money for the past 5 years season ticket sales kit sales sponsorship money the board are taking the p. and need removed like the snp not fit for purpose there taking the fans for a ride.

25.) 26 Jun 2022 12:58:02
2 blue Souter, becomes a rangers player eligible to play after 1/ 7
We will see what happens re Lowry Lovelace
Others u mentioned took us to Seville
Sweepif we sign a 20 million pound player we will have no money.

26.) 26 Jun 2022 13:01:14
Guys chill out lol every club deals with current squad first before spending from budget, when that’s all sorted ie who is going and whose renewing then targets already drawn up are prioritised. Players 100% will be coming in.

27.) 26 Jun 2022 13:02:25
We need starters John not old age players who are finished. We don't need to spend 20 million on one player but filling the team up with bargain basement and free transfers ain't the way to go unless the funds are short.

28.) 26 Jun 2022 13:02:45
Sweep bargain basement as u call it has served us well
Morelos
Kamara
Aribo
Bassey
Tavernier
Lundstrum
Barisic
Arfield
McGregor
Davis
McLaughlin
Not exactly rocket science to think we operate well in that market.

29.) 26 Jun 2022 13:03:50
What's the snp got to do with this Stephen? Since your talking politics what's your thoughts on the Tories trying to change our human rights act?

30.) 26 Jun 2022 13:08:36
I have thought we won't sign anyone untill Alfie, Kent an Aribo contract situations have been dealt with, either sign or sell for me it's that simple, ill be sad to see any one of them go but we cannot afford to let their contracts run down, for me that is the reason we have not put any significant offers in for players at this moment, obviously it's just my opinion an you could well be right sweep but I firmly believe we do have cash to spend and we will have money available for targets that's been identified be it plan A or Plan B.

31.) 26 Jun 2022 13:12:47
Stephen go read accounts, that post is not even worthy of a response.

32.) 26 Jun 2022 13:14:32
John that's fair enough but this squad needs 1st team starters now. Most of them were projects that had time to settle in. We need players to hit the ground running. Celtic ain't starting as slow as they did last season and seem to have their squad together for this season. We don't know what direction we are going in going into July.

33.) 26 Jun 2022 13:24:55
Gio has been in the job 8/ 9 months surely he'll know by now who he wants or needs. Our squad as it stands will not regain the title so the club need to make money avail.

34.) 26 Jun 2022 13:41:51
Here here Livibear ? that's the same 2 i'd be busting a gut getting them to sign a new deal ?Aribo will be sold imo and i've always said this on here ?.

35.) 26 Jun 2022 13:43:09
One Walter, I'm choking for us to sign new players but our squad practically as it stands were denied being Europa League champions on penalties last month, we actually have a good squad I feel it just needs a couple of right good signings and were good to go ( provided no big players leave that is )

36.) 26 Jun 2022 14:04:35
StephenRfc1872 without this board we might not have a club.

37.) 26 Jun 2022 14:20:31
Thestingo I think you will find it was the club and Wilson that did the business early not Gerrard and that was simply because it was mostly free signings or nominal fee. sadly it has very little to do with the manager these days I say manager should say coach. If you think about it he could be right we only really shelled out when we realised squad was not going to be good enough to stop 10. I fear getting to final was one of worst things for gio going forward and directors will penny pinch until middle of coming season to asses both our position in league and gio as a coach and are also maybe waiting to see if we make champions league. To be fair I can understand Thier thinking but I couldn't understand the false loyalty giving Davis and arfield new deals. It was the right time to invigorate the squad with fresh players we already have enough squad midfielders. It also suggests to me if we sell and like aribo or kamara that they will not be replaced. Which I'm ok with this if its intended to give the likes of Lowry a shot. Board will also be thinking of they are good enough to make final will be good enough to qualify but doesn't always work that way.

38.) 26 Jun 2022 14:26:51
Mark44 you give them too much credit the fees we get seem to be constantly lower than what the other side of Glasgow get for transfer fees and that's nothing to do with standard of players. look at sportsound the other night bigging up Celtics chance of getting 10+ for Julien in last year of contract even with the injuries and at same time they belittle Morelos and even our own business taking lower fees than expected over the years trust me rangers will take something like 6 for aribo I don't trust Wilson or Robertson to back gio the way he deserves.

39.) 26 Jun 2022 14:31:46
Mark44 this is a board that didn't build when there on top that let celtic back in and get straight into the group stages and when they get jota that 50 million they have spent in 3 windows.

40.) 26 Jun 2022 14:50:38
2blue how was souttar signed last season When he isn’t officially signed yet? Can you explain that?

41.) 26 Jun 2022 14:55:43
What 50milloon you talking about Stephen Also what has the snp got to do with anything on a football page?

Goforbig you and a few fans have short memories on what this board have done for the club.

Coops with the amount you say on here you are sure to get one right at some point and I agree that aribo will leave.

42.) 26 Jun 2022 15:55:43
Yes that squad came within a pen of winning a euro trophy but also dropped points at Ross County Aberdeen motherwell Dundee utd it needs refreshed as much for players as for fans.

43.) 26 Jun 2022 16:21:47
I stand by my post reg the board Stephen although i do agree with you that our board should have bought better last summer.

44.) 26 Jun 2022 16:32:52
Now now Stormtrooper don't be nasty pal you have a lot to say yourself on here that never happens and is wrong my friend ?.

45.) 26 Jun 2022 16:58:05
Don't see anyone saying Celtic are skint etc when apart from converting their loans all they have done is sign free back up GK Siegrist. By current positions we have each added 2 additional player to squad from last season. Stephen you don't seem to understand that the board can only spend what they have, Celtic had cash in the bank for last season and we didn't.

46.) 26 Jun 2022 17:16:12
Totally agree with John again here a few doesn't mean he's a good player in fact there prob isn't much diff we could easily have been having to pay 10 million for likes of aribo we have to be smart with deals no point paying big fees and players flop look at itten relatively big fee compared to what we've spent in recent years and he still flopped. It's all about scouting and timing.

47.) 26 Jun 2022 17:28:27
I have to say John with Robertson saying we brought in more money from the Europa League than we could expect to get from the group stages of cl, Patterson money, Gerrard money, merchandise etc I would be seriously concerned if we had to sell before buying. In saying that I don't think that is the case and I can see us buying someone in the next couple of weeks.

48.) 26 Jun 2022 17:47:10
I could have maybe believed that if you could have managed to spell atleast half of the names correctly.

I will give you credit for your imagination though.

49.) 26 Jun 2022 17:48:20
Some bargain based signings will hit that's a fact but also easy to list a great number that don't hit that's the joys of signing someone on there potential but think John what some are saying is that it would be nice to sign a provin first team player. But no point in arguing when we all are just giving our opinions.

50.) 26 Jun 2022 22:06:21
Storm I'm not forgetting but they have Thier own agenda too they are there to make money if they are so called saints would they have not put Thier money up before plc was bust. They are business men and opportunist. The fans are what helped our club other director options could have helped lead us back to where we belong it was not possible without fans. What I'm saying is it's not exactly a huge risky when they are getting season tickets sold out regardless of how we are playing or what division we are in. I respect that people have an opinion but it would maybe be nice not to insult your fell fan for said opinion.

51.) 26 Jun 2022 22:19:08
Stormtrooper sorry if my hesitation in trusting boards is a problem but you got to admit we have been let down heavily by ours in past weather it be Murray, white, green, or current. But even you must see why I find it hard to trust our board.

52.) 26 Jun 2022 22:20:28
And to be clear I'm not one of the ones expecting them to run out and spend money we don't have. You can find just as good bosmans out there if you scout properly.