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18 Mar 2026 13:04:12
Rangers are Keen on Signing Motherwell RW and New Zealand International Elijah Just according to Andy Newport the Daily Record



18 Mar 2026 13:38:36
Cheers, Rangers, I was told Celtic were interested in him a little while ago.



18 Mar 2026 14:05:13
Just had a look at his stats, 27 league games, 7 goals, 7 assists, probably get him for a couple million.



18 Mar 2026 14:33:19
We can buy him for the couple of million we get for our Belgian international with less goals and assists than that, then. ;)



18 Mar 2026 14:47:35
Thanks for the information, Rangers man.
As things stand I personally have not heard anything in relation to anyone in the Motherwell squad.



18 Mar 2026 15:28:39
Defo has the ability, very tidy when I have seen him.



18 Mar 2026 16:39:44
I would be ok with this move, but my tinfoil hat is telling me it's media PR from that lot, so they can say 'gazumped', 'stole a march', 'beat them to it', etc.



18 Mar 2026 19:09:14
From what I have seen of Just I wouldn't describe him as a right winger. I would have thought he was an attacking midfielder, so I just hope, if we do sign him, fans won't expect a player that gets to the byline and puts crosses in.



18 Mar 2026 19:56:02
It's the same sort of thing when certain people say Mikey Moore is a left winger as opposed to a more central no.10 attacking mid. 🤔



18 Mar 2026 20:52:09
SWS, but Moore has scored all his goals playing off the left, and has all his assists from there. He is at his best starting there and drifting inside. Figures for Transfermarkt say he has played 14 times coming off left (lw or lm), and has actually played 1 more time on rw than he has at am (5/4).


I like him doing that, as he has less players around him to receive the ball and more room to run into when he does get it. It seems to be where he is most effective as well for goal contributions.



17 Mar 2026 21:26:09
Are any of you guys hearing that Cornelius has been told to train with the youth team for remainder of his loan?



17 Mar 2026 22:10:39
I did hear that at work today.



17 Mar 2026 22:20:29
Supposedly, though, on other sites to get him back fit and up to speed to allow him to play for Canada at WC.



18 Mar 2026 13:00:32
Do any of the rumours say why?



18 Mar 2026 13:22:34
Wsl. The rumour I read quotes both Cornelius and Antman told Rohl that they were going on international break in March.

Rohl wanted them both to remain here to fully regain their fitness for the run in.



It's not clear they have been banished to train with youth. Training pics for Saturday should help clear things up.

It's felt that we r close to an injury crisis for the run in.



18 Mar 2026 14:38:06
An injury crisis with 1 player missing?



18 Mar 2026 15:20:18
Watp.

There is concern re individuals playing 8 in a row.
Sterling
Souttar
Tav
Arrons
Barron
Naderi
Antman
Cornelius
Bajrami
Diomande
Moore
Asgard
Three are taking injections to play and require minutes managed.



18 Mar 2026 16:25:05
If all those are having their minutes managed, it could explain a lot about selections, subs, etc., recently. That must be half the squad.



18 Mar 2026 19:13:56
I thought if international players were called up by their countries they had to go and prove to their countries they weren't fit to play.
If what is being said is true, is Antman banished to the youths as well, and if they are, how does this help? It's just taking two players out the squad for no real reason.

Sounds like bad management to me, if it's true.



18 Mar 2026 20:56:00
Wsl, I see that Antman is being asked to train with the youths due to the size of our squad, which can't be true. I think we need to treat these with a pinch of salt. Remember the Souttar operation story, which people got hot under the collar about. I am sure the press will ask at the presser on Friday, and it will become clearer.



18 Mar 2026 22:25:12
No, don't think a loan player would be put in with the youths.



17 Mar 2026 20:09:10
Some rumour going about Diomande could be out for the rest of the season due to a shoulder injury he got during the Old Firm game.may need surgery



17 Mar 2026 20:40:10
Looks like Barron came back just at the right time.



17 Mar 2026 22:00:55
Barron could win us Old Firm, he and Chucky in mf, and pref to me Raskin too. We win that game with 3 in attack.



18 Mar 2026 08:08:40
Said it was a small injury.



18 Mar 2026 13:02:43
Rangers Review saying he could be in the squad for Saturday.



18 Mar 2026 15:21:19
Wsl, I understand if he has a heavy fall on his shoulder, it could become an issue.



17 Mar 2026 15:09:39
John, are you hearing anything different regarding Moore?

My understanding that any idea of signing him permanently is fanciful.



17 Mar 2026 15:49:45
Aphe. I was out for dinner Friday. The table included a boardroom member, and it was felt Spurs want 20 million. Make of what u will.

Some very interesting things in the pipeline.

I'm again told Doehki has till the end of March to commit. He wants CL football. As I said in December, I'd be stunned if we could get a deal done.



17 Mar 2026 15:55:07
I have a feeling that deal is probably dead now, my friend.
We certainly will not spend £20 million on any single player.

Everything about Rangers is exciting at the moment other than results and performances on the pitch.



17 Mar 2026 15:58:24
Seems very unlikely then. Would think that's way outside our price range.



17 Mar 2026 16:12:48
Deals can be made, 20/30 percent sell-on, 40million buy-back clause, and I bet we could get that down to 12-14million.



17 Mar 2026 16:18:46
Great info, guys. Keep it coming. 👍



17 Mar 2026 16:35:54
I don't think paying £20m for a player is beyond us. You only have to read about how Chelsea managed to sign Madueke for £80 odd million. Spreading the costs over a longer period can help avoid breaking FFP rules.



17 Mar 2026 16:43:45
Maybe we could Klarna him.



17 Mar 2026 16:52:06
Doehki couldn't lace big Manny Fernandez's boots. 🤔



17 Mar 2026 16:54:54
We cannot be buying prospects from the EPL in my opinion. The risk is far too high, and our scouting system should be identifying similar prospects at a much more reasonable financial level.



I don't rate Moore because he has minimal end product, but it's not him in particular; it's shopping in a market that we don't have the finances to be competitive in that I have more of an issue with.



17 Mar 2026 17:23:45
Really, fool? You think we're going to start splashing out £20m on individual players???

Hey Tommy, can you name a single teenager over the last 40 years or so that's been as promising as Moore??



17 Mar 2026 17:24:11
Moore will play for England. He's a shining light in a poor team and we need to get him, Chermiti and Naderi all working together to see the best of all 3. We have enough central deep players to let the full backs get forward, and I think the reason we are so awful is that isn't happening to accommodate the atrocious Gassama or the brutally awful Olsen.



Anyway, I know for a fact that an Italian team are watching Moore because I am in regular contact with someone from that team at board level. I had a 20 min call yesterday with them about him. Sounds like the sort of thing I'd say someone else is making up. But it isn't.



17 Mar 2026 17:30:54
Moore has goals and assists, but even when not, he beats men and occupies others, etc.

Dunno if we have 20m to spend on a player, especially as we need to spend in other areas tho.



17 Mar 2026 18:08:35
Mikey Moore is a superb young player with a massive career in front of him, but unfortunately it won't be with us beyond this season. ☹️ Our current loanee at Kilmarnock, Findlay Curtis, will be Moore's replacement I feel for next season. 🤔



17 Mar 2026 18:22:11
Rostosto, how about Wayne Rooney or Michael Owen?

Foolmonty, UEFA closed the amortisation loophole so that the value can only be written down over 5 years max, no matter length of contract. Mainly because of Chelsea.



17 Mar 2026 18:34:55
Loan with an obligation in Summer 2027 of £14-15m + 20% sell on is what I'm hearing, offer wise.

Allows us to spend more in prominent areas this summer.



17 Mar 2026 19:20:38
I would love that to be true, Bear1986, but just can't see it, pal. ☹️



17 Mar 2026 19:28:07
Spurs could be playing Championship football next season. Moore is worth more to them as a player than that £20m. They won't even make any decisions on this lad before the season has ended, and they will have a look at him in pre-season. This is standard for these EPL clubs.

I wouldn't want Rangers spending £20m on a player who has only given us 5 goals this season. I'd rather see the summer budget spent bringing in 5 players for £4m each.

Rangers need major surgery in the summer, and blowing the budget on one guy won't happen.

I'd go even further and say I'd rather have Sima or Cerny back before Moore. Sima is worth a lot less than Moore, and delivered so much more. Tillman scored 18 goals in his debut season for Rangers, and the fans said he wasn't worth £5m, but Moore, who has scored 5 goals, is worth £20m? Makes no sense.



17 Mar 2026 20:21:26
Moore is a player with huge potential. He will be a regular England international. My only criticism of his game at present is he doesn't know when to release a pass, but that's youth, and it will come with time & experience. I think the best we can hope for is to get him on loan for another season.



17 Mar 2026 20:50:01
As it seems from your conversation, John, Moore at 20 million may be out of our price range unless we can negotiate his price down.
Do you think there's any possibility of us extending his loan deal into next season? I always thought this might be the only way of us getting him, and I think it could benefit all parties.

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17 Mar 2026 21:05:17
If we took him in laim again they'd want £2m again, so that's £4m in loans. We then would pay £16m, whether that be £10 and 6 in achievable add ins, or whatever. They want £20m n not a penny less.

He's worth that all day in England, but for us. How do we profit on him at that price?

We're not going to sell him for £30m if he does well, that's just not going to happen.

His numbers aren't high enough for that figure.

We'd need to agree £10m fee with 50% sell on total price, not profit.
So, sell for £20m, we'd get £10m back, they'd get £10m on top of our original £10m.

That's the only way it would work.

Can anyone tell us if the £2m this season and the possible £2m next season would come off the fee we'd pay?



17 Mar 2026 22:03:35
Tommy, how many 18-year-olds are the finished article? Your take on Moore is outrageous.



17 Mar 2026 22:14:38
That's not how a sell-on usually works, Stevie. It's a percent of the profit, so over and above what we paid. In this case, they would get 50% of anything over the 10m we hypothetically would pay. So, they would get 50% of 10m.



17 Mar 2026 22:40:25
Orange, I know that, mate, but what I wrote above was: for us to make a deal we'd need to agree to something like that, as they want £20m.

We're not going to pay £20m for someone we might only get £15-20m back for.

If we do what I suggested, they'll get £20m if we sell for £20m, plus the £2m loan fee we paid this season.

If it's loan with obligation again, they'll get £2n, so possible £24m.

We'd get our £10m permanent fee back. That's the only way it will happen. We're not paying £15-20m for anyone when we're likely to get £15-20m from a sale.



18 Mar 2026 05:54:15
If we pay 10 and sell for 20, then they will only receive 15m in total. If you're then adding in loan fees, then that's 19m, not 24m. Like I said, it's 50% of the profit, so that would be 5m.



18 Mar 2026 06:17:08
I don't want him. Not as good as some say. He may develop into a cracker. Too many blind endless product runs, not passing when he should, passing when he shouldn't. He'll go and continue to develop elsewhere.

Like others, I don't think he'll be here, and also like others he's not the finished article. Oh, and less goal contribution than Curtis in more games, as someone posted. Not worth what Spurs would want, imo.



18 Mar 2026 07:46:50
Moore has had a good run of late, and played well, but I've got to take into consideration the 3rd rate league he's playing in. At this time, I've no idea if he'll make it to the elite levels and play for England.

I feel he's a bit lightweight and doesn't have blistering pace, so, against these big athletic defenders in the PL, I think he'd struggle just now. Still young thou, and will probably fill out a bit.



18 Mar 2026 07:47:59
Stevie, it is a contract, and we/they can write the terms of it in any way we choose, I imagine, just like any other business contract. So, it normally works on percentage of profit, but if we choose to agree to 50% of total price we get, then that could be agreed and signed for.



These things aren't written in stone, even if it won't happen, imo.



18 Mar 2026 07:55:58
Stand corrected, whoever posted the goal contribution thing may have been incorrect, bit rusty. 😉



18 Mar 2026 08:09:35
If they want £20m, we can't afford him. Whilst he looks very promising, we can't take that risk. He could go on to be a world-class winger/10, or he could get injured and be worth nothing / no sell-on like Kent.

Would love to keep him, but we can't be paying that.



18 Mar 2026 12:11:32
Stevie, sorry, your maths ain't mathing.

We'd need to agree £10m fee with 50% sell on total price, not profit.
So, sell for £20m, we'd get £10m back, and they'd get £10m on top of our original £10m.

That means we get nothing. We might get 10M back, but we paid 10M, so the net result is 0. Not great business doing that.



18 Mar 2026 13:26:10
Stevie, imo a key issue re Moore, Djiga et al is fsr; deal u suggest does not help parent club, especially one relegated.



18 Mar 2026 13:38:05
Orange, it's not a rule that u must only do a sell on of profit, although it's the norm.

I've written that because I think it's not allowed that a player can be part owned in Britain, so instead of them keeping 50% of rights to the player (£10m), we'd agree 50% of total transfer fee, not profit; it's not hard to do, mate.



Geesa, I agree, mate, we'd not make a profit, but that's kind of my point, his value is that high that we're unlikely to sell for any higher.

John, Spurs won't miss the money if they did that; their parachute payment dwarfs our budget by about £100m.

They're still £10m up at the end of the day, he's an academy product.



18 Mar 2026 13:52:14
Stevie, get where you're coming from, Spurs not likely to go down, Wolves will, they r in the mire if relegated.



18 Mar 2026 13:58:04
We shouldn't be chasing players who overlook the need for domestic success. We should move on if Champions League is a deal breaker.



18 Mar 2026 14:58:39
It's not hard to do? I know that, mate, don't worry about maths. I clearly stated in my original reply that the majority of the time it's usually a percentage of profit, and then made my point. At no point did you think to say you meant it was of the full transfer.

If you had, then there would have been no interaction from me. But you don't need to be condescending in future. Especially with maths, mate. 👍



18 Mar 2026 17:50:58
Orange T, I thought u had been nippy to me in that msg before, so I probably was nippy there, mate.
Sorry. Just thought u had nipped at me first lol.



18 Mar 2026 18:35:00
Is that a couple of 'you started it' posts. 😂😂



19 Mar 2026 00:11:37
Aye, Angus, it wasn't me, it was u haha.



17 Mar 2026 13:50:02
Diogo Travossos, John?

This would be an excellent long term Tavernier replacement.

Hampus Skoglund would be another high on my list.



17 Mar 2026 14:03:12
We r very interested, as are others, aphe.



17 Mar 2026 14:31:53
Exactly the type of player we should be looking at imo, Aphe.



17 Mar 2026 15:08:02
Definitely BBJ, both players very similar to Rommens.



17 Mar 2026 15:59:10
If he's like Rommens that'd be great. Been really impressed so far. Liking the rumours, guys.



17 Mar 2026 21:05:47
Cheers Aphe, mate, appreciate the info.



17 Mar 2026 21:48:18
No problem at all, my friend. It was John who did the hard yards, I only had to dig a little.



17 Mar 2026 22:04:23
I know nothing of him, maybe, and I won't know anything of anyone we sign in all likelihood.

We're not in for players anyone knows.

Even old pros we used to get, Jonas Thern, Nerlinger, the De Boers, Prso, Caniggia, Kanchelskis, Porini, Waterues, Mendes and many more, we wouldn't get these days due to Saudi and the money in Championship.



17 Mar 2026 22:14:14
Stevie, that is a major issue going forward.

Seasoned professionals are looking for a pay day in the sunshine now, and the tax havens are where a player can set his entire family financially comfortable for life.



17 Mar 2026 22:15:45
First I saw it was the post below from Rangers-man. 🤔



17 Mar 2026 22:24:40
John mentioned him this morning, Orange.



17 Mar 2026 22:44:01
Not a chance we get them nowadays, Aphe. Can u imagine us signing, say, Lewandowski (De Boer) or Goetze (Nerlinger)? No way.



18 Mar 2026 12:13:04
How we can dream though, eh, Stevie.



17 Mar 2026 13:15:56
I seen something that Rangers have sent scouts to Portugal to look at a few players such as Diogo Travassos 21 year old RB from Portugal from Sporting Lisbon to Replace James Tavernier



17 Mar 2026 16:44:30.
Good info Rangers-Man. 👍



17 Mar 2026 17:34:18
Good pedigree if he's from lisbon mate, replacing Tav is vital imo



17 Mar 2026 21:06:02
What would the fee be?



16 Mar 2026 17:54:01
We're going to begin talks with Spurs over a permanent deal for Mikey Moore. This could be a second loan with obligation depending on if they will agree to it but either way we will be breaking our transfer record.

Skov Olsen deal is on hold for now. Will be looked at agan after the season ends but as it stands is unlikely to be pursued.

Talks with Wolves for a permanent Djiga deal will take place after Wolves relegation is confirmed.

Meghoma, Cornelius and Aarons will all return to parent clubs.



16 Mar 2026 18:15:01
Bear, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

It does completely contradict what I have been told regarding Moore and Djiga.



16 Mar 2026 18:49:45
Would be good if we could use the Skov money towards Moore instead.



16 Mar 2026 19:11:16
I think we should sign Moore too. I think he's going to be some player. The problem is the £20m valuation.

We'd need to offer them a massive sell on, something like £10m upfront and 50% sell on.

I expect us to bid for Shiva if he keeps up his form till summer.



16 Mar 2026 19:22:07
Stevie, could it be the reverse of the discussion we had re Manny earlier? They may start with the £20m valuation but end up lower, with a higher sell on. So your guess on the deal could end up being what we pay.



16 Mar 2026 19:28:35
Let me say, firstly, I would love us to be able to sign Mikey Moore on a permanent deal for Rangers, but I honestly doubt it very much. ☹️ Our best chance of having Moore still at Ibrox next season will be another loan deal, which I would also love to be possible, but I also have my doubts about that happening also.

☹️ I think Findlay Curtis, when he comes back from his loan deal with Kilmarnock, will be Mikey Moore's replacement next season. 🤔 For the record, I really rate and like young Curtis. 👌 🇬🇧



16 Mar 2026 19:43:35
Moore has looked good in flashes, but I haven't seen enough to be worth paying a record fee for. For over £12million we could get someone who is much better right now, and maybe even more than one player. His numbers aren't that good, and if it was Ryan Kent producing those numbers in goals and assists, he would be getting pelters.



16 Mar 2026 20:24:15
Aphelion, I was told up until last week we were unlikely to go for Moore and Djiga permanently, but this is new info from a good source who I trust.



16 Mar 2026 20:30:57
Very well could be the case indeed, Angus.



16 Mar 2026 20:44:12
I actually liked the look of Cornelius before he got injured. Pity he got injured; he looked a goal threat from set pieces. Him and big Fernandez would have been a handful.



16 Mar 2026 21:21:29
Big T, I liked Cornelius too.

I preferred him as a left back though. He had a bit of Papac about him, for me. He wasn't excellent at anything, but he was solid at it all. He's good back up for Rommens if the price isn't too high. Doubt we'll take him, though.



16 Mar 2026 22:24:21
If Djiga is true, then I'm delighted. I reckon he and Fernandez would be an excellent partnership to build upon.



16 Mar 2026 22:30:15
Guys, these new opinions of Djiga are the reason why I am even more certain that we should not write Olsen off.

It has taken Djiga 8 months, including a full preseason, to be comfortably amongst our best central defenders.

I said all season, and was slaughtered, that Djiga is twice the player of John Souttar.



16 Mar 2026 23:04:04
You may have been slaughtered for rating Djiga, but not in comparison with Souttar, because no one rates him. Still got huge question mark over him, and unless Wolves vastly reduce their valuation, I wouldn't be following it up.



16 Mar 2026 23:35:31
Aphelion, very good points you make on Djiga and Olsen.

You know far more about Olsen than me; I only knew he was a Danish international that Rangers had been interested in for a few years.

I so much hope you are right about him, as he clearly has the skill, poise, and technical ability.

The one worry I have is his personality and nature, which is difficult for anyone to change. I saw that a previous manager had described him as introverted, and I saw a reference to an interview he gave some time ago where he said he had "fallen out of love with football" and he just regarded it as a job.



On Sunday he didn't look too enthusiastic about coming on to the pitch, which was in very poor condition on a wet and windy day, when little football was being played.

Do you think he has it in him, personality-wise, to embrace Rangers, Scotland, and the SPL, with its own unique brand of football, and even all the madness that surrounds the game here?

I would love him to make a good contribution to 56 this season.

I hope you can reassure my friend Aph. Then we could both celebrate together.



17 Mar 2026 00:14:18
Aphe, that's a more than fair point u make regarding how opinions have changed on Djiga.

The thing now is, Olsen has 8 games to make us change our view about him. He's also likely to start, maybe, only half of them at most, so it's not looking good for him.



Best he could hope for, imo, is another loan next season, but we wouldn't pay that much again as we did this half season.

Personally, I don't think we'll take it up.

Too big a gamble.



17 Mar 2026 01:13:10
Mikey Moore has less goal contributions than Findlay Curtis this season in double the gametime btw.



17 Mar 2026 02:10:12
But he's good at ole ty og other things. Numbers will come.
Good at taking the ball and carrying it 50-60 yards. He's great at dragging defenders about. He's technically very good, and for an 18yo I think he's doing just fine.



17 Mar 2026 07:35:34
Once a Ranger. I think that's a valid concern. Yes, he's had great ability, and I think most of us were excited and wanted him in the past too. But it never worked out for him at a couple of different clubs now for some reason.

And, while it takes time to regain match sharpness, he doesn't seem to show a desire to make a difference or to impress in the time he's been given. Sometimes even good players don't suit certain clubs or leagues.



17 Mar 2026 08:02:31
Once a Ranger, he definitely has it in him, personality-wise, and I don't think it is fair to call into question his character.

He is taking time to get match sharpness, but what I do not like is the fact that we are not providing him with the platform to increase his confidence.



His performances have been dictated by confidence, not talent.

I think he will regain his confidence and be a star player, but I do believe we will see the best next season.



17 Mar 2026 08:23:47
I did read negotiations have already started a few weeks back. Reports stated that Spurs were happy to let Moore join Rangers, but any deal would require a big sell-on clause, so it would reduce initial cost and give Spurs first option on a buy-back. Very tactical from Spurs.

Remember, a sell-on clause is only on the profit of the initial transfer, so Spurs are making it affordable for us but still kind of retaining rights on a buy-back option. Moore supposedly loving life in 🏴 with his girlfriend, so he himself may try to push this also.



17 Mar 2026 10:11:15
Aphelion, I don't think we should be writing off Olsen either.



17 Mar 2026 10:27:42
I would love Micky Moore being a Rangers player, but that will never happen. Well out of reach.



17 Mar 2026 10:34:59
Once A Ranger - that's why I don't want us signing Olsen. Seems to have a temperamental personality that affects his game. No doubt he has talent, and if he feels like showing it, he'd look a player.



That's the problem with this type, though. We can't hope he feels like it when we need consistency week in and week out. For me, at the price quoted and based on what we've seen, he'd be a firm no.



17 Mar 2026 11:04:20
Kasier, that isn't true, as there are still some fans on here who think Souttar is good enough.

Djiga would sign if price is right. Young, big CH, only going to improve.

Moore, I can't see us buying him.

Absolutely no chance, imo. Again, would sign if price is right.

ASO.
We just shouldn't be signing him based on what we have seen, I want a playmaker in the middle of the park, not out in the wing.



17 Mar 2026 12:14:57
If the people who run the club front up the cash to buy Mikey Moore, then there is no doubt that we should do it. Yes, put in a huge sell-on fee, yes, give Spurs first dibs on him, but what a signing and a statement that would be.

With regard to Skov Olsen, I would look to get another loan deal in, with an option at the end of it. Give him the pre-season he needs, and the players around him to let him see we mean business, and I firmly believe we will get this guy back to his brilliant best.



As for Djiga, I just don't see the player that many on here seem to see. I still don't rate him at all. We need better than him, and the best I would do is a similar deal to what I have mentioned above for Skov Olsen - an extended deal with an option to buy at the end.



17 Mar 2026 12:16:19
I'm told, if we win the league, then Skov will be signed, if we don't, then he won't.



17 Mar 2026 19:41:34
Derek Cornelius, I believe would be a good signing for us, although his age is a problem for ROI. It was not our fault he got injured. Would Marseille be open for another loan but with obligation to buy?

I know we were burned with obligation to buy before, but I believe in this case, we have a quality player who would only enhance the team. Aso, I have not seen enough in to pay the fee wanted, personally, and Djiga, I still get the fear at times, but way less than before.

Worth trying to get permanently if he continues his improvement.

I asked previously about Spurs relegation and a clause in the newly signed contract by Moore, so if there is one, then I'd definitely be up for signing him, but I still doubt we could afford to.



17 Mar 2026 20:27:14
Super, I've always said no re Cornelius, he won't be signing if he's been sent to train with academy.



17 Mar 2026 21:06:36
Why's he been sent to train with kids, John?



 


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