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24 May 2022 18:24:02
Simple question.
Is Tavernier given enough credit as club captain and as a player?
Not a loaded question; genuinely curious as to what others think.
I still find myself questioning his mental toughness but i'm measuring him against past captains such as Greig, Gough, Butcher, Ferguson etc and i know that's unfair as different types and eras.
1.) 24 May 2022 18:33:31
Football players are different now, those types of captains are few and far between in the modern game. His numbers are irreplaceable and ofcourse when you are so much of an asset going forward, you require others to aid you defensively. We are only just managing to combine all that together now when we have Jack and lundstram playing to cover. could be doing with finding that perfect right sided forward to compliment him aswell.
2.) 24 May 2022 18:38:19
Both steven gerrard and now gio have made and stated how good a leader and captain tav is within our dressing room and that says it all for meGerrard made tav captain and was an outstanding captain himself and knows what it takes When gio came in he kept tav as his captain and look at the captain's he's played under Like i said says it all that these two think tav is a terrific captain.
3.) 24 May 2022 19:57:10
Tav could walk into most teams in epl other than say city chelsea liverpool …. Maybe not Leicester
He’s be first pick at spurs Man Utd arsenal West Ham villa Everton amd so on
We’re lucky to have him he’s a top drawer player who seems to have improved dramatically defensively under gio.
4.) 24 May 2022 20:24:37
BEEN DISCUSSED A THOUSAND TIMES, OFTEN DAILY FOR A WEEK, he's BEEN GREAT OVERALL, MANY AWFUL GAMES BUT THE HIGHS MOST DEFINITELY OUTWEIGH THE LOWS, , UNLIKE KENT I HAVE TO SAY, A GUY I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO RECIEVE A GOOD OFFER FOR, HIS LOWS VERY MUCH OUTWEIGH THE HIGHS, ONLY MY OPINION OF COURSE.
5.) 24 May 2022 20:48:05
Answer, no!
6.) 24 May 2022 20:49:26
Tav leads with goals energy and drive. He is an excellent example to everyone at the club. Great captain.
7.) 24 May 2022 21:31:04
I have been one of his biggest critics on here but I am turning as what he has done probably not just the last two years but especially two years he has been outstanding.
8.) 24 May 2022 23:53:49
StevieG1 you obviously don’t watch a lot of premiership games if you think he’d walk into those teams and one of them is managed by our former boss who hasn’t come in for him so that alone tells you a lot.
9.) 25 May 2022 06:10:07
I don’t think he walks into the the majority of epl teams too 6/ 7 nope and the bottom 6 want defenders not attacking full backs IMO.
10.) 25 May 2022 07:39:29
He makes to many mistakes for a defender and those mistakes are usually costly to us. Good going forward. And I don't get why he is always on corners and free kicks 9/ 10 are over hit or hits the 1st man. Fit as any defender iv seen and always gives 100%. That's my take on him.
11.) 25 May 2022 10:25:15
The professionals who know football have always rated Tav even though in the past he has had a few mistakes in him (which defender doesn't? ) .
Much of the criticism was directed at his positioning but if the game plan is to have Tav forward of half-way and a midfielder filling in it's hardly Tav's fault if the midfielder does not cover.
It's easy to criticise a player or write him off but where would we be if supporters had their way? No Tav or Goldson, no Morelos, no Bassey - in other words, no 55!
I've always said let the manager make the decisions (assuming we are moving forward) and let the supporters support.
12.) 25 May 2022 10:45:57
Ok guys. We are talking about our club captain here, lost the league by 4 points, due to draws, Lost 3 games out of last 76 league games, got beat on penalties in major European final, won Scottish cup. Top scorer in Europa cup, etc, etc, Tav is doing the job he trusted with imho. So my question is if not Tav who would you give the armband too! And why.
06 May 2022 15:29:42
Afternoon All,
Sorry for a slight change in topic but this is the closest i am to being 'on' social media!
I am in Manchester for work on May 18th so need somewhere to watch the game (please spare me the Canal St recommendations) 😅.
Im staying at the Hilton near the airport so as close to that as possible .
1.) 06 May 2022 17:44:58
I watched the Leipzig away game in the tib street tavern in the northern quarter. Was just a typical sports bar tho mate nothing special, but will definetly show it.
28 Mar 2022 10:06:26
Morning All,
Do you think you could come up with an 'Obscure Gers XI'?
How many times has a name cropped up in the media and you think "ah, i forgot he played for us".
Maybe someone who only played a few minutes for us or just seemed to be a bizarre signing and it didn't work out.
1.) 28 Mar 2022 11:38:12
Dibble
Foster cribari svennsson ( struggling for left back)
Mladenovic sionko black
Gayle ostenstaad jeffers.
2.) 28 Mar 2022 12:02:11
Your left back could be Stensaas Paul?
3.) 28 Mar 2022 12:21:19
Obscure Gers X1 who came from the Premier League!
Roy Carroll
Kevin Muscat
Henning Berg
Gareth McAuley
Olivier Bernard
Andy King
Emerson
Joey Barton
James Beattie
Egil Ostenstaad
Franny Jeffers.
4.) 28 Mar 2022 12:39:56
dan eggen, henning berg, Hamed namouchi, jerome bonnisel, jeremy clement, pippo maniero sooooo many more.
5.) 28 Mar 2022 13:00:48
Or Graham Robert's as goalie?
6.) 28 Mar 2022 13:11:37
There are more obscure options for left back. How about, Oliver Bernard, Paolo Vanoli or Jerome Bonisseli (I think that was his name) .
To be honest if you google Alex McLeish signings, you’ll find an awful lot of very random players that we signed during his time (along with some very good ones as well mind! ) I know we were starting to ‘down size’ during his last couple of seasons in charge but when you see some of the names you really do start wondering, what was he thinking!?! 😂.
7.) 28 Mar 2022 13:20:01
Jbf i always thought jeremy clement was a very good players very tidy on the ball.
8.) 28 Mar 2022 14:02:56
What about the 2 million pound basil boli.
9.) 28 Mar 2022 14:19:04
Stephane Guivarch, Aaron Niguez, Fabrice Fernandez although I think the last one was only on trial.
10.) 28 Mar 2022 14:22:33
Danny never kicked a ball prodan. weiss sebo. vidmar.
11.) 28 Mar 2022 15:03:22
5 players we got from Newcastle and lost came injured 😂😂.
12.) 28 Mar 2022 16:14:01
Mario Jardel.
13.) 28 Mar 2022 17:10:31
Broxi jardel didn’t sign.
14.) 28 Mar 2022 18:32:11
i have a book written by a guy who tracked down every player who played even a minute in our 9iar period, even travelling to warzones to find them, many i completely forgot about.
15.) 28 Mar 2022 19:03:29
Maniero! what a shout that is, McLeish had some stinkers, Federico Nieto another dud striker!
16.) 28 Mar 2022 19:24:49
Charbonnier
Hegarty
Faure
Moshini
Black
Namouchi
Little
Shiels
Daly
McLeod
Sionko.
17.) 28 Mar 2022 19:34:51
Stormtrooper- Kevin Mbabu now with Wolfsburg and a Swiss Internationalist one of the Newcastle Famous.
18.) 28 Mar 2022 19:48:55
Copland and moved for Ten million.
19.) 28 Mar 2022 19:52:00
Copland charbonnier won a treble at rangers and has a World Cup winner’s medal.
20.) 28 Mar 2022 19:56:07
Harris Vuckic.
21.) 28 Mar 2022 20:37:04
Thomas myhre, antoine ponroy, Pierre fan fan, tero pentilla, juanma ortiz, bojan djordic, luigi riccio, Jani kauppila, maktar n'diaye, bajram fetai, mervin celik.
22.) 28 Mar 2022 21:23:08
Some smashing shouts there lads. Some names i totally forgot about. made me chuckle. Big Sebo had no concept of stopping distance . he just ran into people. 🤣.
23.) 28 Mar 2022 23:23:05
CHARBONNIER WAS A CULT HERO AT RANGERS, ALWAYS REMEMBER LE MARSEILLAISE BEING BELTED OUT.
24.) 29 Mar 2022 04:58:37
Stormtrooper Jardel agreed terms, was pictured in training tops and paraded before fans in a game against Raith Rovers in January 96. The problem was that we failed to receive a work permit for him and the move broke down. Having said that surely we could have loaned him out for 6 months and secured a work permit for the start of the following season.
25.) 29 Mar 2022 18:12:01
Sorry misread the original post Obscure Gers X1.
26.) 29 Mar 2022 18:26:33
Paul clement made zunga look like messi.
01 Feb 2022 14:44:12
john25, obviously the deal never got over the line (as far as we know at this stage) . There are so many moving parts in any deal;
A willing seller
A willing buyer
A willing player
Legalities involving agents etc.
It got me thinking - i wonder how many deals bubble away in the background in a transfer window, some even getting to the line before collapsing due to any of the roles outlined above.
For every one that goes through, i wonder how many collapse?
1.) 01 Feb 2022 15:15:14
What deal, Souttar?
2.) 01 Feb 2022 15:21:37
For some reason this post has appeared on here rather than the rumours chat.
Late last night john25 said we were still working on another deal. Unspecified whom.
3.) 01 Feb 2022 15:52:20
Yes we were and I said late on it was Souttar. Obviously hearts had their mind made up and stuck to their guns, I’m pleased we did not pay crazy money late on.
4.) 01 Feb 2022 16:38:16
Absolutely john. I could maybe have just about swallowed the fee but when i hear they wanted add-ons too i'm glad we never gave in.
5.) 01 Feb 2022 17:34:54
Athole that has to be problem. Addons a joke.
23 Jan 2022 17:05:42
Hi All,
First time poster.
Another poster asked a week or 2 ago about favourite rangers memories. It got me thinking.
Funniest one was at the Marseille game when McSwegan's header went in. I was in the Broomloan rear, in amongst the goal celebrations a guy came tumbling down the stairs past us. Everyone seemed to stand still for a moment watching him falling. The guy got to the bottom of the stairs and jumped backed to his feet and continued celebrating the goal. Still makes me laugh almost 20 yrs later.
A fond memory is one that sums up what it means to be a rangers fan.
My friend and i were on Copland Rd trying to buy tickets off anyone selling them. Think it must have been 1990, Aberdeen game. We saw a guy selling 2. As 15 yr olds we never had any spare cash over and above. While we were handing over the cash to the seller this guy said he would give him double for the tickets. Our hearts sank but the seller tore strips off the guy, told him he was a disgrace and he should never do that to fellow rangers fans. Legend whoever he was.
That's my tuppence worth in terms of memories. Following the team over a number of years, you gather a lot of great memories but also some scar tissue but we won't go into that!
Keep up the good work ed and the regular posters. .
1.) 23 Jan 2022 17:17:04
Athole that reminds me Scotland game in wales night jock stein passed away.
One of our group did not have a ticket, so getting one from tout who had a handful.
Next appears this cop, takes his tickets off him hand handed them out to Scotland fans.
Tout gives cop severe verbal, to be told shut up, beat it or go to jail.
Excellent policing.
2.) 23 Jan 2022 17:19:04
Haha brilliant john25.
3.) 23 Jan 2022 17:32:46
Welcome to a great site, AtholeðŸ‘.
4.) 23 Jan 2022 18:02:36
Rangers v Celtic … am sure you all will remember Andy Gorman taking a kick out and it bounces off the back of dicanios head back into his arms… do canio was livid … ran to goram then sheepishly skulked away … goram kick out again and it hit do canio again … priceless… the whole stadium was in an uproar … even the away support.
5.) 23 Jan 2022 19:22:29
Remember that incident well Mols. Laughed the rest of the match and all the way home. Funniest thing I've ever seen at a match.
6.) 23 Jan 2022 20:36:12
Me too seeker, remember that and it always makes me smile just thinking about it.
It's on YouTube and I watch it every so often.
I was in East enclosure that day and the bears were going wild at it.
Poor Di canio didn't see the funny side though🤣🤣🤣
🔴⚪🔵.
7.) 23 Jan 2022 21:34:30
Big Albertz knocking out Lambert’s teeth at Ibrox and the away win at parkhead when one of them fell off the upper tier spring to mind.
8.) 23 Jan 2022 22:05:11
My dog trying to take a bite out of Big Ecks in the street. Following him for an autograph and chat and Got told off for no lead lol.
Then served him at petrol station up the road. Great guy and had time for all. Was great having a Rangers Manager live round the corner.
05 May 2022 08:50:45
Cheers Sir walter. Great signing for St Mirren, even if just for a year. Top professional and doen to earth lad.
04 May 2022 23:00:22
TT, the Goldson situation was what i came on to post about. He will not be signing a new contract as his wife is desperate to return to England.
Secondly, Steve Davis has allegedly signed a pre-contract with St Mirren.
27 May 2022 08:54:00
Great stats mph. that's why i asked the question the other day as to why there is this nagging doubt in people's head still re Tav (mine included) . With each passing season though i warm to him more. I would love to see him reach testimonial status at the club as long as he keeps producing the numbers he does.
06 May 2022 07:56:10
Hi Folks, totally agree re Goldson. He's got a mistake in him at times but its priceless having someone who is always available to play and is a leader on and off the pitch. His and Tav's conditioning is phenomenal.
His wife is desperate to return to England so no matter the financial offer, he is going.
28 Mar 2022 21:23:08
Some smashing shouts there lads. Some names i totally forgot about. made me chuckle. Big Sebo had no concept of stopping distance . he just ran into people. 🤣.
07 Feb 2022 15:27:01
BMG excellent post. One of the main reasons i gave up my season ticket at the front of the govan a number of years ago was because i spent more time arguing with those around me who thought it was acceptable to shout at and abuse our own players for whatever reason on the day but then give up and leave after 75 mins to go to the pub. Nobody sets out to have a bad game and whilst the O. F. result still hurts like a kick to the stomach it was also down to them playing very well on the night and getting us on the back foot right from the off as much as it pains me to say it. they've responded the best way they can. let's see what the rest of the season brings.
01 Feb 2022 16:38:16
Absolutely john. I could maybe have just about swallowed the fee but when i hear they wanted add-ons too i'm glad we never gave in.