25 Feb 2026 20:11:56
Being told tonight we want to extend Butland by two years with a years option.
25 Feb 2026 21:15:04
Seems quite a long extension.
I thought we might sign someone next season, with a view to them replacing him.
25 Feb 2026 21:23:20
Not a long extension for someone his age.
25 Feb 2026 21:32:14
He's a top keeper. We could do worse than Jack. I thought maybe we'd sell in summer due to his wages.
25 Feb 2026 21:51:18
Not for me. Too many mistakes in him, and he has clear limitations. Hopefully all this is a rumour.
25 Feb 2026 22:05:53
I think it would be good business. Yes, he costs us on occasion, but he has saved us so many times we can forgive the odd off days!
25 Feb 2026 22:07:50
Would love someone better, like everywhere, but we have bigger priorities to improve on, so he's fine for now.
25 Feb 2026 22:22:01
Good news, John. Cheers.
25 Feb 2026 22:31:22
I don't believe this is a good decision my friend
25 Feb 2026 23:20:25
Thought they might have gone for someone on a lower wage bracket, but like all goalies, he has a mistake in him. He has saved us this year, and is probably a lot of fans' Player of the Year.
26 Feb 2026 00:24:58
So, troops out of Klos, Woods, Da goalie and McGregor, where do you put Butland?
26 Feb 2026 00:33:13
I think we'll go down the sweeper keep route.
26 Feb 2026 00:33:28
5th on that list, White Horse.
26 Feb 2026 02:38:46
Would you rather have Butland or someone like Schmeichel? Lol. I know who I would have every time.
26 Feb 2026 05:00:04
Jack Butland is a good goalkeeper, but I agree with My Star. He'd be in 5th place for me with the list of class goalkeepers White Horse put out. ?
26 Feb 2026 06:44:19
He's not near the other 4, to be honest. I thought we were after the young Sheffield Wed GK? If Butland and Kelly are staying, I take it that's not happening.
26 Feb 2026 07:20:09
Extension - just another way to secure a better deal for the club should he move on, imo (akin to a potential extension for Raskin) - doesn't mean he will be here for the duration, but it seems a sensible move for someone who would still be wanted down south. It's just insuring an asset.
26 Feb 2026 07:22:39
Defo, no 5 from your list.
26 Feb 2026 08:17:23
Well behind in 5th place.
26 Feb 2026 08:21:09
I decided to have a look and compare the 5, as I thought that the other 4 would be miles better but wanted to check my memory wasn't just of rosier times when we were winning trophies. I used goals per game and clean sheets as a way of showing it, so here is the result of the check:
Player clean sheets goals per game
Goram 43.8% 0.87
McGregor 41.9% 0.90
Butland 39.3% 0.98
Woods 38.7% 0.71
Klos 34.6% 0.81
So, not as far behind as I remembered, even at a time when we are thought to be poor defensively.
Is the main difference that we remember him fondly because the others were part of teams who won trophies? Just thought it interesting.
26 Feb 2026 09:11:20
A lot can affect the stats, though, Angus. Could be a great gk in a rubbish team, or a rubbish gk in a great team. I prefer to judge by what I watch, and while he's a good shot stopper, he's nowhere near them in my opinion. I'd throw Charbonnier ahead of him too in my list. He was class before his injury.
26 Feb 2026 09:20:28
Snelders. ? ? ?
26 Feb 2026 09:53:54
Kaiser, I agree that stats are only one element, but I thought it interesting and they show that he isn't as bad as he is made out to be on goals lost, at least. Given your input, I could argue that he is a good keeper in worse teams than the others. That is the difficulty with comparisons across generations.
How would Butland have looked with our defences of those eras in front of him? How would the others be with Souttar, Djiga, Aarons and Tavernier. ?
However, I do know the other four didn't make mistakes, were excellent at cross balls, and all played like the sweeper keeper we seem to feel we need as well. ?
26 Feb 2026 09:57:34
If anyone doesn't think this is a good idea, then they are genuinely clueless.
If you cut his 3 or 4 mistakes a season to 1, he'd be an upper-mid-table Prem keeper.
The disrespect he gets, purely because he followed one of our best ever and one of our own, is pathetic.
As said, we'd be 5th or 6th without him.
We should sign Pierce Charles or Callan McKenna and loan them out until Butland is ready to go.
26 Feb 2026 10:16:21
I would put JB behind Charbonier Niemi Ginsburg.
26 Feb 2026 10:53:43
Well, that sabbatical never lasted long. ????
26 Feb 2026 11:20:05
Lately, there is the issue: a good football discussion is taking place and someone posts on another poster. ?
26 Feb 2026 11:23:07
Klos played in an era when Scottish football was at a high standard. Butland is playing in an era at its lowest ever standard. Stats can lie at times. Klos was a million times better than Butland ever will be.
26 Feb 2026 11:27:58
Great news about Butland, hope it happens.
26 Feb 2026 11:49:38
Goram was my absolute hero, so I won't accept he made any mistakes, Angus. ? And, personally, I hate the sweeper keeper stuff too, but if we're going to persist with it, then Butland wouldn't be my choice.
Fork, I nearly put in Snelders and Waterhorse, but that was maybe going too far. Charbonnier was brilliant before Klos took over though.
26 Feb 2026 11:49:47
What I see people saying about Butland not being as good as McGregor, Goram, Klos or Woods, etc., is that we could go through the whole squad and not one of them could match what we have had before.
For me, Butland is as good as we can get for now without spending millions upon millions to replace him, and any out of contract gk better than Butland won't be coming to play in Scotland.
26 Feb 2026 12:13:42
Just a wee bit, bud. ??
26 Feb 2026 12:28:47
Glad I seem to have dodged your ignore list for now. ?
Watp, he wasn't an upper-level Prem GK tho, he was at Stoke, then a backup GK before joining us. I do agree, though, we should keep him, as I doubt we'll get better just now and we have bigger priorities.
It does make for a good debate, though, where he compares with other keepers, because we've had some great ones.
26 Feb 2026 12:33:17
Waterreus was a superb gk. If he could run, he would have been a midfielder; his touch and passing were that good.
26 Feb 2026 12:33:31
Strange that Butland has been offered 2 years and a year's option, yet captain-elect Souttar only signed a one-year deal with a one-year option.
26 Feb 2026 13:00:42
Kaiser-Pierce Charles (Sheffield Wednesday) gk is currently out with a shoulder injury.
Probably linked to us due to Danny Rohl previously being the manager at SW.
26 Feb 2026 13:05:17
APH, who, in your opinion, would be a good signing for the No1 position (gk)?
26 Feb 2026 13:11:22
He was Borna, but I think Butland maybe just edges it. Good debate tho, we've had some superb stoppers.
26 Feb 2026 14:17:22
No doubt, Aph, has a few Scandis or Germans in mind, but considering how much his previous tips have struggled at Ibrox, it would be worth triple checking them on YouTube.
26 Feb 2026 14:58:45
Butland's limitations are there for all to see. He has had a great season, but how many would have agreed with a deal ext at the end of last season?
We need to progress and improve the squad, and not keep players just because we have done so consistently.
26 Feb 2026 15:51:52
Not even close, Kaiser, you're one of the good guys who actually debates and listens to others' viewpoints.
26 Feb 2026 16:18:37
Aye, he's behind a few more than those four mentioned in the list of our keepers. I like him, but I would have Niemi etc in goal before him.
26 Feb 2026 16:57:09
Was surprised how few games Niemi actually played for us, Coully, so never included him, but yes he was another top class keeper. How he never played for Scotland I'll never understand. ?
26 Feb 2026 17:10:59
Kaiser, I agree with Fork and enjoy our debates. I, of course, never listen to others' views, but still like to read them. ??
My childhood keeper was Peter McCloy, the Girvan Lighthouse. An excellent keeper, and the only one of them who has a European winners' medal in his cabinet for us.
26 Feb 2026 17:34:28
Look at the defenders Goram, McGregor, Kloss, etc. had in front of them. Now look at Butland's!
26 Feb 2026 17:40:31
Angus, before my time, unfortunately.