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14 Nov 2021 07:42:34
heard Frank lampard is preferred option now.

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1.) 14 Nov 2021 08:36:24
Heart and Hand say differently, time will tell.


2.) 14 Nov 2021 09:56:37
GVB is still the favourite. He certainly gets my vote.


3.) 14 Nov 2021 10:03:08
I heard Frank is not in the frame anymore.


4.) 14 Nov 2021 10:16:57
Who is all in the frame as i'm beginning to think that it's been a one horse race all along🤔.


5.) 14 Nov 2021 10:23:01
I hope that horse has a Dutch accent and called Gio🐴🇳🇱🍊🌷.


6.) 14 Nov 2021 10:48:34
Heart and hand podcast apparently with links to the club said Lampard isn’t in our radar.


7.) 14 Nov 2021 10:52:10
I think you're right SGL. It looks like it's been GVB, and GVB only.
If he does come in mate, you have to change your username to The GVB Loyal. If you don't, someone will.


8.) 14 Nov 2021 11:03:43
Or you could change it to Steven Gerrards no loyal.


9.) 14 Nov 2021 11:11:07
BMGH01 hearing ronald koeman very much in the running to become our new manager mate🤔.


10.) 14 Nov 2021 11:38:38
I hope it isn't Koeman mate. Ed001 you have mates and family who are Everton fans. From what I hear, Koeman was terrible during his time there, and is hated by the fans. Is that right?

{Ed001's Note - family and friends that worked for the club while he was there and he was an arrogant prick by all accounts. He refused to sign a contract unless he was given freedom from any kind of community work or appearances, which is something Everton always insisted on before him. They see themselves as a family club, but he was distant and had no interest in becoming involved in the club at all. That is why he never got the fans onside. From what I am told, there was a huge number of people at Southampton who were relieved when he left as well, he was not well liked there but got results.}


11.) 14 Nov 2021 11:50:57
There you go guys! Would anyone want a fud like like near our club after what Ed001 just told us? Guys like Koeman, and Terry ( a fud of the highest order) should be nowhere near our club. I'm actually taken aback that anyone would want, or mention, a racist massive tool like Terry when discussing our next manager. Mental!


12.) 14 Nov 2021 12:17:07
No fuds at our club to hell with that.


13.) 14 Nov 2021 12:22:19
Koeman is a hell no for me.


14.) 14 Nov 2021 12:32:16
Please no koeman my heart is set on GVB.


15.) 14 Nov 2021 14:12:47
Koeman is yesterday's man.


16.) 14 Nov 2021 20:49:34
fud fee, forever.


 

 

11 Jul 2021 21:13:24
Anyone know how airfield not been involved in pre season yet? Also john 25 any info regarding offerborh? You indicated he was doing well at training but not involved in games so far?

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1.) 12 Jul 2021 07:29:02
Yep I was told he was doing very well. Seems to then have aggravated an injury.


2.) 12 Jul 2021 12:12:09
Lets hope its not another injury prone signing!


 

 

08 Jul 2021 22:19:33
John 25 do we get 200k for Jamie barjonas from kelty hearts?

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1.) 09 Jul 2021 06:17:28
lucky if kelty have £20 never mind 200.


2.) 09 Jul 2021 06:25:30
Punter. that's what i thought but john says we are due 200k small money in his words for any of these boys we released that haven't made the grade so didn't earn a new contract?


3.) 09 Jul 2021 07:44:45
Is the fee not decided between both clubs because he is under 24 and its not cross border? Was there not a rule that we had to have offered him a contract aswell that he rejected to get a development fee? 👍.


4.) 09 Jul 2021 08:49:28
Yes we get a development fee. Listen if you can’t be bothered reading the rules it’s up to you. what you r saying Craig Mullholland and Wilson r wrong.
Barjonas fee less than that based on when we signed him.


5.) 09 Jul 2021 09:02:04
John25, is spot on as that's the way it works!


6.) 09 Jul 2021 09:15:26
Was that reply to me John? Did anyone say that wilson and mulholland were wrong? I asked questions, hence the?


7.) 09 Jul 2021 09:55:21
Infact did anyone mention wilson and mulholland? Couple of people on follow follow saying that we had to have offered him a deal to get compensation. 👍.


8.) 09 Jul 2021 09:57:33
Kelty are probably the most well off club in the lower leagues right now. If you think that Kelty don't have cash, how do you think they can attract managers like Barry Ferguson and Kevin Thomson?


9.) 09 Jul 2021 10:22:35
Hope we get the development fee, does anyone know if we get development fees for the many players wee recently released? Thanks in advance 👌💙.


10.) 09 Jul 2021 10:56:49
Kelly have decent cash to fling around esp at that level.


11.) 09 Jul 2021 12:31:31
Why don’t you guys read the rules, it’s easy.
Coldo my response to bears den,
Broxi development fees were introduced to stop Man City, Chelsea Bayern Barcelona hoovering up players for nothing
It’s very well explained on epl or spfl site.


12.) 09 Jul 2021 13:25:00
Its a discussion John. Can you confirm that to get compensation then we had to have offered him deal? 👍.


13.) 09 Jul 2021 13:53:18
Coldo the answer is no, please go read the rules and why they were changed.
It was to protect smaller clubs. They develop players from early age 8 and don’t keep them . They get money pretty simple.


14.) 09 Jul 2021 14:52:50
Why would clubs get money for players they don't want? Makes no sense at all. But if that's the rules then it works out well for us. 👍.


15.) 09 Jul 2021 15:29:43
Coldo please read and give me your opinions, interesting Watford have just said on fans site they have signed mebude for a small development fee.


16.) 09 Jul 2021 16:11:10
Yeah John but was mebude offered a contract to stay? 👍.


17.) 09 Jul 2021 16:15:20
John put it this way. let's say I develop a player for 10 years and I realise when that player is aged 22 that I don't want them as they aren't good enough. So I let their contract expire and I don't offer them a new deal to stay. It doesn't make sense that I should be compensated for that if that player signs for another club. 👍.


18.) 09 Jul 2021 16:35:23
I just read what mulholland said and they way he was talking it sounded as though a lot of the boys including mebude were not offered contracts and there was no mention of compensation either👍.


19.) 09 Jul 2021 16:40:00
Just read on the official watford website, no mention of a development fee👍.


20.) 09 Jul 2021 16:42:57
We got 200k for charlie telfer development fee years ago.


21.) 09 Jul 2021 17:08:31
We offered telfer a contract though rfc92👍.


22.) 09 Jul 2021 17:31:46
Coldo I think you’re right here! It’s crazy, how can you get money for a guy yo don’t want and didn’t offer a contract to!


23.) 09 Jul 2021 17:40:41
It doesn't make sense bgate. 👍.


24.) 09 Jul 2021 18:03:47
Was never going to make it at Rangers anyway.


25.) 09 Jul 2021 18:07:18
John has this wrong! He's normally right but miles off with this.


26.) 09 Jul 2021 18:21:55
Cool Bearsden, can u quote what rules say.


27.) 09 Jul 2021 18:57:29
John your rules could put players out the game. we let a player go as he's not good enough but he can't sign for someone as the only clubs that want him can't afford him. this could be a scenario. Madness.


28.) 09 Jul 2021 19:27:40
Bearsden not my rules. Rules on spfl website. I may be totally misunderstanding them as does Wilson.
I would appreciate your read them and post a reply.


29.) 09 Jul 2021 19:57:24
Bears sadly I reread the rules.
Development fee, training costs are mandatory according to fifa, adopted by spfl.
As u suggest players could be priced out off game which is covered by all clubs, players, association being preset in specific categories.
This it states prevents a player who is released being priced out off game. Ie a rangers player going to Kelty would attract a category 4 fee applied to calculations
A rangers player going to say Chelsea attracts a category 1 fee applied to calculations.
It’s a great read only 87 pages, no wonder it is complicated.


30.) 09 Jul 2021 20:31:29
They have to refuse a new contract prior to their original contract expiring for us to get compensation John. Medube, barjonas were not offered new deals and were released so we are not due compensation. You were wrong all along. 👍.


31.) 09 Jul 2021 21:50:36
If u say so coldo,


32.) 09 Jul 2021 21:52:13
87 pages so forgive me for asking a question but i suppose we will get a development fee if we never offered a contract as we did develop them for years, would tht be correct 🤔💙.


33.) 09 Jul 2021 22:22:38
Wilson never misunderstood the rules either. 👍.


34.) 09 Jul 2021 22:47:32
No broxi. They were released. 👍.


 

 

30 Jun 2021 06:25:01
Anyone have any info regarding Lindstrom? Read on here he was at a Glasgow hotel for talks last week but its all went quiet? Probably want to much in wages/ signing on fee etc.

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1.) 30 Jun 2021 08:58:11
Might be wrong but read in the paper he's not actually a free agent until tomorrow. a lot of contracts finish last day in june.


2.) 30 Jun 2021 09:12:07
Out our price range, seems we can hardly keep our own players happy with wages.


3.) 30 Jun 2021 10:14:04
Every player signs a contract and therefore they must have been very happy to sign at the wage they are offered. What players is it that we can't keep happy with regards to their wages?


4.) 30 Jun 2021 10:14:13
Bgate wisen up mate. That's what happens now. People come here, they make their name and they move on. We're never going to be the final destination for players except rangers fans.


5.) 30 Jun 2021 11:22:23
Paul yes lundstrum free agent tomorrow but he could have signed pre contract deal to leave English football since January.


6.) 30 Jun 2021 12:01:59
I see him staying in England. Burnley, Newcastle, that kind of level.


7.) 30 Jun 2021 12:30:42
John Lundstrum wants to join but I was also hearing he wants at least 35k a week! He'd he a decent signing.


8.) 30 Jun 2021 14:17:35
Wouldn’t give him 35 k no chance.


9.) 30 Jun 2021 16:27:20
If your getting someone like Lundstrum on a free and 35k wages what's the difference say if you buy someone for 3 million on a 3yr contract and pay them 20k a week. That works out you've paid nearly 40k a week over 3 yrs.
Look at Roofe reportedly on 35k and also cost around 4 million so he's costing around 55k per week.


10.) 30 Jun 2021 17:11:59
Totally on the button three cheers. It always surprises me people can’t work that out.


11.) 30 Jun 2021 21:35:01
It could cause disharmony in the dressing room i would say, lead to majority of players agents asking for a wage increase. Someone walking in the door n becoming our highest paid player when it can't be guaranteed he would be one of our best, I'd say sign for a lower salary with the option of a wage increase performance related/ dependant. Hopefully roofe is available a lot more this season thn last as tht is a wage tht could have bn better spent considering we all knew he was injury prone, class player on his day however👌💙.


12.) 30 Jun 2021 22:46:42
Don’t want to upset the harmony with 1 higher earner than the rest. Be better to give him a lump sum and a more level playing field of a contract.


13.) 01 Jul 2021 00:27:33
Sure his contract runs out tomorrow. Can see an announcement maybe by the weekend. Hoping we land him as I have saw some clips of him and he looked a cracking player season before last. Would bring something extra to our midfield.


 

 

13 May 2021 20:23:37
John 25 did you not say goldson would be signing a new deal a few weeks ago? Has there been a problem or is the deal off?

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1.) 14 May 2021 07:24:56
Bears yes I said deal had been agreed. Can’t always be correct. My source says problem appears to be a clause that allows him to talk to other teams.
Who knows.


2.) 14 May 2021 08:23:28
Was that not several weeks ago john? If he wants to talk to other teams would that mean he is angling for a move? If that's the case surely we would want fully committed players? This being the case he should be the asset we should sell as some say we will sell an asset? I do like goldson but if he wants away.


3.) 14 May 2021 09:11:01
No idea. He and his agent will decide.


4.) 14 May 2021 10:59:16
Maybe rangers should decide now John.


5.) 14 May 2021 11:08:00
Bears den are you haven’t a go at John He gave info he can only say what he has heard.


6.) 14 May 2021 11:11:02
Remember this is a rumour site, i'm only say what I’ve heard.
I want him to stay, but what will be will be.


7.) 14 May 2021 11:21:02
No not having a go, just got a feeling goldson holding out for a return to England was hoping john could shed light as he is a respected poster whom is usually correct in my opinion.


8.) 14 May 2021 12:30:49
The issue is over his buy out clause. Rangers want it higher than he wants. As in rangers may be pricing him out of a potential move.


9.) 14 May 2021 15:50:54
I’d sell goldson for 8m no problem he’s done fine but he’s caught wanting in Europe all the time and I think with some good scouting £8m would easily get us a better defender from the continent.


10.) 14 May 2021 16:23:15
I agree with that, Connor is not irreplaceable.


11.) 14 May 2021 17:29:51
Goldson been good but is replaceable.


12.) 14 May 2021 21:29:33
How much was boumsong years ago
Central defender with his ability for around same price
would take it lol
hate too see Connor go though in all seriousness he’s been a great defender for Us and amount of games he’s played is unreal
Great professional and doesn’t get credit he deserves
no matter what happens I’ll be forever grateful for his services to our club guys no doubt.


13.) 14 May 2021 22:11:36
Tierney has set a new bar now ladies. We have quality international players (I know goldson isn't one) but helander and Kamara have been spoken about at possibly leaving and the prices are not even close to what I think we should be asking. Helander is an international - and if PREM clubs want him (leic and villa) then 15 minimum! If he's good enough to play for two of the top 6 clubs in England then we should be asking for a lot more. Same applies for Goldson in my eyes.


14.) 15 May 2021 10:17:21
The stig boumsong was a free.


15.) 15 May 2021 11:53:19
Think he means we sold him for £8m Paul.
I also agree that £15m would be my asking price for an under contract goldson. Obviously with one year
Remaining we won’t get that so £8-10m would be fair.


 

 

 

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03 Jan 2022 09:49:39
Right if Patterson goes we stand to gain 10 million up front. potentially 16 million if targets are met and he's sold? I'm led to believe Patterson currently earns around 5k per week. say we get only 10 million I can't see us spend all that in transfer fees alone as any replacement or additions will undoubtedly demand more than 5k per week so unfortunately we won't want to increase wage bill and I suspect most of the fee will be put towards wages. Poor decision again considering we don't need to sell.

Bears den

1.) 03 Jan 2022 09:54:32
I’m actually lost for words bears den 🙈🙈.


2.) 03 Jan 2022 10:00:32
It was an offer to good to refuse considering our £23m losses. £10 million up front still leaves losses of £13m. The hope is champions league money but not guaranteed. When you factor in C.V. losses we had no option but to bite Evertons hand off. Don’t think the £10m is spending money, expect another big player sale before we splash out.


3.) 03 Jan 2022 10:01:22
To have kept Paterson we would have had to put his wages up for a start to say £15/ 20k as he is a Scottish International and how long could we expect to get £12/ 16 million for him paying him a low wage? We are getting a fair deal and the only thing I find surprising is no other clubs are bidding ✌️.


4.) 03 Jan 2022 10:14:56
Poor decision? Think its a great move by the club for someone sitting on the bench the next 2 or 3 seasons.


5.) 03 Jan 2022 10:18:28
Good realistic post Bears den mate.

Also three good realistic reply's (so far), without the usual accusers of being negative repliers getting stuck into you for real facts.

Long may it continue in this new year guys.

Nothing worse than seeing our fellow Rangers supporters getting slagged off for their opinions on here.

Cheers all.


6.) 03 Jan 2022 10:21:08
Yately I'd rather have given Patterson a pay rise than sell him after all we have players like barker earn more, we have sold ourselves short again.


7.) 03 Jan 2022 10:44:18
Vast majority of that debt is loss of gate money and soft loans by our share holders! I expect 5 to 6 million of the money for Patterson to go to New additions this month with maybe a couple of loans to buy.


8.) 03 Jan 2022 10:46:30
Bears Den, I totally respect your opinion but you have to admit it’s some deal we are getting? Good luck to the young man✌️.


9.) 03 Jan 2022 10:49:09
There might be a reason why Tav is picked over Patterson, its not ability.


10.) 03 Jan 2022 10:56:34
DEEB explain why 2 consecutive managers have picked Tav then?


11.) 03 Jan 2022 10:57:03
I think that your missing one vital part of this situation bears den and that is do you honestly think that Nathan Patterson would sign a new deal for a wage rise because i dont. Do you think he would be happy sitting on the bench for a few more years getting very little game time watching Tav getting picked every week. No way he would and now he's got the chance of a lifetime to play in one of the biggest leagues in the world getting paid millions of pounds. I know what option i would be taking. he's fulfilled his dream and played for the club he loves and now is the time for him to further his career and show the world what he can do.


12.) 03 Jan 2022 12:09:06
Everton were always going to come back for Patterson and sadly, Patterson wanted to go. Benitez has made it clear that he wanted him as a replacement, (not backup) for Coleman. Patterson will earn at least £30k a week which is a massive increase, well above what he could have expected at Rangers, and he will be playing in the EPL.
At the same time, we have secured what will inevitably become £16m, since barring disaster, he will cement his place in the Everton first team very quickly.
I would also expect GVB to secure some of the funds received to bring in a couple of players that he wants to strengthen the Team. Transfer Deals, (including local to buy options), are not just about the fee agreed. It is also about the terms of the deal. For that reason I would like to think that we will secure some of the players that GVB wants and that they are available to play when the Winter Shutdown ends.


13.) 03 Jan 2022 12:54:58
Barrowlad Rangers posted an operating loss of £23m to 30 June 21. An increase of £7.5m over previous year. Director loans although they are a debt to the directors are held within the balance sheet and are not part of the £23m operating loss. You are correct in that gate receipts were down, £17m in fact, a huge loss to a club like Rangers. Overall total revenue was down £11m. The effects of the Sars 2 C.V. cannot be understated. Government need to take their head out the sand before serious problems arise.


14.) 03 Jan 2022 13:07:46
Who had Patterson sitting on the bench for most of the time Three Cheers mate? .

Gio has been with us for only a few weeks so is probably still sussing out the squad.

Cheers guys.


15.) 03 Jan 2022 14:10:42
2blue Douglas Park himself stated that "Initial estimates are that the adverse effect on revenues was over £20m, and the effect on the net loss over £10m, regarding the damage C.V. had on the operation of the club.


16.) 03 Jan 2022 16:07:37
Barrowlad figures quoted are taken directly from Rangers FC own accounts, therefore should be accurate and not something I have made up.


17.) 03 Jan 2022 18:16:06
2blue this is also taken from the AGM direct quote from Park.


 

 

31 Dec 2021 11:40:30
With transfer window looming here is my thoughts
Kelly I wanted to see more of him but not to be, he needs games loan him out
Firth out
Barker out
Simpson out
Defoe out
Katic stay in Croatia
Itten stay in Germany
Some of the b squad loan out to higher level
Would prefer to keep all contributing players in this window but understand if terrific offers come in they could be sold as long as its early enough to get replacement in.
Maybe also bring in one or 2 to enhance first team.

Bears den

1.) 31 Dec 2021 15:11:54
The other players to add to the list would be
Middleton
Hastie
Itten gave 100% when he played and so did Katic but if the money is right ( transfer fee ), then you might expect them to leave.
Is there an option to buy in the loan deals?


 

 

02 Dec 2021 04:52:03
McGregor clean sheet 6
Tavernier 6
Goldson ropey 5
Basset solid 7
Barasic 6
Davis poor 5
Kamara 6
Hagi 5
Aribo 6
Kent 5.5 frustrating
Morelos 4.5 not doing it.

Bears den

1.) 02 Dec 2021 07:37:24
Every player goes through a bad game. You trying to say Davis and morelos aren't good. Carried us for long enough.


2.) 02 Dec 2021 07:44:13
why such a high mark for Morelos? I would give him a 2 a mark each for the two passes he managed to complete. I was going to deduct another 0.5 for missing the target with the easy header that he missed but as it came off his head and not his shoulder then he's clearly improving so i will be forgiving and he can stay on 2.


3.) 02 Dec 2021 08:37:12
Morelos got no service.


4.) 02 Dec 2021 09:23:03
Need jacko back fit he gives us a solid platform to build from.


5.) 02 Dec 2021 09:34:16
Always negative about Alfie. I thought we support our team how wrong i am. Man single handed dismantled Antwerp top European scorer. When he doesn’t play we look disjointed up front.


6.) 02 Dec 2021 09:36:33
Alfredo got one chance and he missed it that was it but your strikers need service and he certainly didn’t get that last night.


 

 

02 Dec 2021 04:45:48
Good 3 points, some players must improve though. what's happened to Morelos again? Was good against Prague but poor last two games and that chance just before half time! Free header but his head's like a sheriffs badge! Kent worked like a Trojan but decision making and final ball poor. goldson had a few wobbles, Davis getting caught in possession,

Bears den

1.) 02 Dec 2021 09:37:16
Check back and see how many he has scored with his head.


2.) 02 Dec 2021 10:00:28
The one against Prague was a peach lol!


 

 

10 Nov 2021 22:34:42
Russell martin I'd rather Steve martin!

Bears den

1.) 10 Nov 2021 23:02:02
Who knows mate, he could be Utd or city gaffer in a few years, we just don’t know do we
Ferguson or Paisley weren’t exactly world class players.


2.) 10 Nov 2021 23:08:05
Martin Short his mate.


 

 

 

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10 Nov 2021 22:35:45
God help us!

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07 Nov 2021 07:49:53
That be sarcasm john?

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05 Nov 2021 22:23:28
John 25 who is the good ch at Stranraer? Probably just afford him! is he Scottish?

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03 Nov 2021 22:47:49
Scotty do you take the training? How else would you know this?

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02 Nov 2021 22:37:02
Well that's a relief, wee happy can hardly get a start at Norwich and they are mince.

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05 Jan 2022 21:26:21
Mph you're in danger of being classed as obsessed with that mob.

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03 Jan 2022 10:21:08
Yately I'd rather have given Patterson a pay rise than sell him after all we have players like barker earn more, we have sold ourselves short again.

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03 Jan 2022 09:32:53
Couldn't get a start for Patrick then went to brechin.

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03 Jan 2022 09:31:40
Sugar coat this all you like but our team should be built around our own homegrown players, patterson has huge potential and will be worth more in a year or two. if its 10 million up front that's too low imo.

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23 Dec 2021 08:10:08
Rules not broken, jzer lunatics run our country unfortunately.

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