23 Mar 2026 06:48:49
Rangers and Rangers only is my agenda here when i say this guys ?We've got to hope spurs stay up to have any chance of getting Mikey Moore back on a second season loan deal ?If spurs go down, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that our slim chances of keeping Moore for another season will be gone, because then spurs will cut their wage bill heavily and sell a few of their better players and it's more than likely they'd have Moore playing in their first team, in the english Championship ☹️ Even if spurs do stay up i doubt very much there's any chance of us keeping him permanently and our only hope would be another season long loan deal ? There's a lot of interest in Mikey Moore and there also was before we managed to do the deal with spurs, to get him on loan in the first place and that was only after he signed a 5 year deal with spurs ?
23 Mar 2026 07:33:41
Don't want him, sorry and I don't care, get Curtis back, also we could allow our own left winger to actually play on the left wing instead of papped to the right where he's mince. Gd player, who may be great or not, but no for me.
23 Mar 2026 07:51:37
That is the issue, isn't it. He is a good player, but atm nothing more. He is spoken about sometimes as if he is prime Messi. I too would like us to play our own players first. Bring back Curtis, give Gassama game time on the left and Antman time on the right.
23 Mar 2026 07:57:05
I just want whichever option wins us the league. Don't care who's on the left wing as long as we get three points.
23 Mar 2026 08:11:50
Sws, Would love Moore signed permanently, can't see that happening though, so another loan does me, mate.
23 Mar 2026 08:42:07
Why would anyone not want Mikey Moore back, boy lights Ibrox up and gets us off our seats.
23 Mar 2026 08:42:52
Gassama has had plenty of gametime. Antman hasn't done much. Mikey Moore wants another season for us, and I think we will get him. He would rather European football with us than a season in the English 2nd tier. Moore, Moore, Mikey Mikey Moore.
23 Mar 2026 09:38:43
That is clear, Aphelion, but a player wanting to return can only help, hopefully, we can sign him permanent, buy back and big percentage of next transfer could swing it, Rangers should be trying anything that is possible to make this happen.
23 Mar 2026 09:42:50
I disagree entirely. They have a valuation that we should not even contemplate reaching.
No one is getting sold for 40+ million pounds playing in Scotland.
23 Mar 2026 09:47:39
I take it you're not a big fan of Rohl then, Fork, given he moved Curtis and Cameron out on loan.
I wanted Cameron and Curtis both to stay and get game time, but seems Rohl doesn't seem to fancy them at the moment, hoping that changes in the future.
However, I do like Moore too, think there's space for Curtis and Moore in the team.
2 players who like to be direct and attack, which I like, both quick and both have skill, and still plenty of time to be stars.
I'd take Moore permanently if we could get him.
If we want a player trading model, then Moore definitely fits the bill. He will make the club plenty down the line if we signed him.
But as others have said, as long as whoever players helps us win this league this year.
23 Mar 2026 09:13:39
Moore is a cracking wee player, usually lacks the final ball/bit of quality, but, at only 18, he has loads of room to grow. If we could sign him permanently, then I'd be all for it, even at the likes of £8-10m, as he'll be worth a lot more in a few years.
However, I wouldn't really want another loan deal.
Would rather get someone in permanently that's actually our player to develop.
Curtis and Cameron should be given more time at Rangers for sure.
23 Mar 2026 09:17:35
Hagi, to be frank, it does not matter one bit what he wants.
23 Mar 2026 09:21:58
Aphelion, but it helps very much.
23 Mar 2026 09:28:36
It helps absolutely nothing, Star. If Tottenham decide they don't want to loan him back to Rangers, then he has to deal with it.
23 Mar 2026 09:49:21
What is the Spurs valuation then, Aphelion? Do we ever know that?
23 Mar 2026 09:54:19
Even know that.
23 Mar 2026 09:56:22
Latest understanding is £20 million, will likely rise if Spurs get relegated as he will likely be seen as a first team player.
23 Mar 2026 09:58:43
Moore only makes us money in the future, Aphelion, you're wanting a player signed that we have a far greater chance of losing money on.
23 Mar 2026 10:01:34
That 20m only gets a good return, Aphelion.
23 Mar 2026 10:02:26
How much money can we make when you want a substantial percentage of future fee to go to Tottenham?
We should not spend £20 million pounds on anyone. Period.
23 Mar 2026 10:11:29
Aphelion, we don't even know if it is 20m, wouldn't the money for Spurs be after his fee? Moore would make Rangers money. Olsen will lose Rangers money imo.
23 Mar 2026 10:14:43
Stig, I think Rohl wanted Curtis and Cameron to get regular starts for a club and probably knew they wouldn't get it with us for whatever reason. Moore had played 20 or so games for Spurs last season so had already gone through that initial game time dilemma.
In general though, re buying Moore, yes I would, and then he would be our player. However, our budget last few years has been around £20M, so does anyone want to spend the whole budget on 1 player on the off chance he fulfils all his potential.
If they want £20M, there will be someone willing to buy him and still give them a sell on fee.
On balance of risk, we would be better buying ASO at £6M, giving him a good pre-season and getting profit there. All opinion, but at £20m we ain't buying Moore. Don't think that is even a valid discussion.
23 Mar 2026 10:18:19
My star, that is your opinion. I note you have had to shoehorn Olsen into the debate to get support.
Let's use the £20 million as an example, with a 50% cut on future profits.
We sell for no more than £30 million, as it is my opinion that no one in Scotland will sell for any more than that.
Having paid him a salary befitting a player of that valuation, we would lose money in real terms.
So, in my opinion, your opinion does not hold water.
23 Mar 2026 10:32:12
No Stig, I like Rohl, would rather have our own players at Ibrox than pay to develop another team's player, nothing other than that, but I get it, our own may not get the minutes, give them Moore's minutes, he's not, and may well never be ours, as you allude to, bud.
23 Mar 2026 10:37:04
Nope, Aphelion, just a simple fact, imo mate, we make cash on Moore, where we'd lose cash on Olsen. Happens we sign him for 15m and sell him for 40m, Aphelion? 30% of the 25m for Spurs. Good profit.
How much does Olsen earn and cost? We will only lose on him, highly unlikely any profit from him, where Moore is money in the bank.
23 Mar 2026 10:38:04
Fair play, Fork, and of course you have your opinion on Mikey Moore, mate, and I certainly respect that, it's your entitlement. ? However I think he's a cracking, talented young footballer and will only get better and better, and if we could get him for a second season loan deal, then I'd definitely want that for Rangers.
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I also rate and like our talented forward currently at Kilmarnock on loan, Findlay Curtis, and do think he'll get better and better and have a very good career, hopefully at Rangers. ???
23 Mar 2026 10:42:08
Your opinion, not a fact. Simple.
23 Mar 2026 10:49:52
Again, you bring Olsen into the debate.
I am not talking about Olsen, I am talking about Moore.
It is lunacy to consider paying up to £20 million pounds on a single player in Scotland.
It is also, in my opinion, a complete fantasy to think anyone is paying £40+ million pounds for a player in the SPFL.
We live in a world of financial regulations, not computer game economics.
23 Mar 2026 10:53:37
Yes, my opinion, or it wouldn't have been posted, Aphelion. Where did the fact come into play, mate? Simple did bring a smile. ?
23 Mar 2026 11:02:40
Coops, I like the boy, gd player, may or may not get better, just would rather use ours, bud. ?
23 Mar 2026 11:07:22
I agree to some extent with Aphe on Moore. £15m is about the cap of where we should spend in Scotland. Even then that's high.
This is despite the fact market forces allow teams in the English Championship to spend that occasionally and in similar sized leagues.
Spurs would really squeeze us on the profits, then you've got the injury and form risks to evaluate.
I rate Moore highly and he could be a £100m player one day, but not transferring from our league.
I also disagree with people who don't want him on loan for another season. If he could help us win the league this season then he could do the same next season. Curtis isn't on his level yet, and quite a different player.
23 Mar 2026 11:11:18
Star, you were the one who originally stated "fact". ? Glad you smiled, my friend, as you have made me laugh.
23 Mar 2026 11:15:43
Much did O'Riley sell for a couple of seasons ago, Aphelion?
Moore at 18 is a different level from Olsen at Rangers right now.
Only bringing him into it because you brought wages into play. Is he worth the wage he earns, or worth his transfer fee? If you want him signed, I'd prefer we signed Moore.
He loves Rangers now, the fans love him, Rohl wants him staying. We wouldn't even be talking to Spurs right now if we don't want him playing for Rangers next season.
23 Mar 2026 11:20:21
Yes, the simple fact we'd make cash on Moore, Aphelion. Enjoy your laugh, am enjoying mine. ?
23 Mar 2026 11:24:22
I think it was really poor letting Curtis go out on loan.
I think he showed far more than Gassam, Antman together.
I really think he could have come on had we played him throughout this season.
23 Mar 2026 11:32:19
Agreed Stig. ?
23 Mar 2026 11:33:52
Stingo, I'm the complete opposite on Curtis, mate, glad he's out getting experience, that will only help us, see Curtis starting a lot of games for us next season.
23 Mar 2026 11:40:08
Star, that isn't a fact, simple or otherwise. You have an opinion that he will. That is fine, but don't claim it is a fact.
We aren't going to spend £15-£20M on any player, but that is just an opinion. I think my opinion is closer to the truth, as even when we were throwing money at winning the title, the most we spent was £12M on a player. Also, we don't just need one player to improve, so do you suggest we spend almost our entire budget on 1 player at the detriment of the whole team on the off chance that Mikey Moore does reach his potential.
btw O'Riley cost Celtic £1.5M and not £20M. Would Celtic have spent the latter amount on O'Reilly knowing they were going to make a 25% profit on him? I think not, but again an opinion.
So Moore could develop into a very good player, but it won't be as our permanent signing, as we aren't spending £15-20M on him and Spurs aren't doing a PCP finance deal on him. Not fact, but as close to one as you can get for an opinion.
23 Mar 2026 11:56:46
Angus, cool, a fact in my eyes.
23 Mar 2026 12:00:31
Angus, Moore will play for England imo.
Moore is a very good player at 18 years old, mate.
23 Mar 2026 12:04:21
Angus, good post, but there is no help when dealing with someone who states his own hypothesis as hard facts.
No surprises though, as it is the same person who argues against hard facts because it does not fit in with his personal opinion.
23 Mar 2026 12:11:52
Star, a fact in your eyes is an opinion. Let me see if I can help:
Fact - a thing that is known or proved to be true.
Opinion - a thought or belief about something or someone.
So they are not interchangeable. In your eyes is automatically an opinion and not a fact.
I don't have an issue with anyone's opinion, but don't say it is a fact.
Not saying he isn't very good, but so were Ravel Morrison and Freddie Adu amongst many others. Being good at a young age doesn't automatically mean you will continue in that growth. These are facts.
23 Mar 2026 12:15:13
We will not be buying any player for £15-£20 million in the summer.
No player in Scotland will be sold for £40 million in the next couple of seasons.
I would have rather given Curtis the minutes that Moore has got or even the minutes Olsen has been given.
We need to show our youngsters there is a pathway to the first team and not get discarded at the first opportunity to develop another team's player.
23 Mar 2026 12:19:13
Aphelion, a simple fact in my eyes, is we'd make money on Moore and lose money on Olsen. Moore right now is a different level of player for Rangers.
What you talking about now, ie hard facts? Hopefully not. Bodo are a bigger club than Celtic again.
23 Mar 2026 12:22:45
I'd love us to be able to sign Moore. I don't see it as Moore or Curtis tho. It'd be Moore and Curtis. Replaces Gassama, Antman Bajrami or Skov for that matter. Could have stayed but the loan deal has worked out perfectly, and hopefully will come back better for it. Couldn't really have sent out any of the others, so game time would have been limited. Re paying 15-20m seems a lot, and not sure we would, but whether or not we make a huge profit isn't that relevant.
Yes, Aph, we won't make £40m, but Spurs would only make from percentage of profit on sale. If we pay eg £15m+ we get a quality player for a few years, then will still get back at least what we paid for, for sure, if not a lot more. If we make more and Spurs do too, then that's all bonus. We'll never make much of a profit on Chermiti either or Skov for that matter if he comes, but if we get quality for a few years and break even then that's fine too.
23 Mar 2026 12:25:27
Angus, that made me laugh, I know what a fact is fgs, yes in my eyes it's a fact, of course my opinion.
23 Mar 2026 12:25:59
Can anyone explain why any club would sell us Moore on the cheap to hopefully gain a couple of million on the cheap. My understanding is the real profit is selling an academy player to another team in the same league, ie it significantly helps re PSR.
Spurs owe us no favours.
Fork, I 100% agree with u, develop our own ie Curtis and Lawson, all we r doing is making Spurs money.
23 Mar 2026 12:27:08
He keeps on making the same progress. He'll play for England, Angus.
23 Mar 2026 12:29:04
Moore has been good, but no way are we paying 20m quid for him.
23 Mar 2026 12:34:10
Now Angus, there was an outstanding, talented footballer, Ravel Morrison, mate, what a talent he was with so much natural ability. ? I remember Sir Alex Ferguson saying that a young Ravel Morrison was the most talented young footballer he ever worked with. ? That's one helluva compliment, going by how many young talented footballers Sir Alex worked with. ?
23 Mar 2026 12:40:12
Honestly, reading this thread is like watching two bald guys arguing about who owns a dropped comb! Agree or disagree, guys, stop arguing about whether something is a fact or not! It's getting boring reading this to and fro. Just let it go!
23 Mar 2026 12:50:21
Dtb, then don't read it, it is the obvious answer (a joke btw). That is a fact in my eyes. ? It is an attempt to finally make Star realise that he should just say in his opinion because so many of these threads end up on those lines. I have now given up btw, as I was always told just to fight the battles you have a chance of winning.
SWS, yes he was, but just shows how much attitude plays a part in footballers reaching their true potential, and that is before you consider whether your Star £20M purchase could get a career threatening injury.
23 Mar 2026 13:02:22
Angus, I get it's my opinion, mate, and injuries are the only way his career will not progress, I better start putting imo on everything I post now.
23 Mar 2026 13:05:20
As much as I like young Moore, like others, I can't see us spending 20m to buy him. Best we can hope for is another season-long loan, based on the prospect of European football.
Going back to your original post, Sir Walter, selfishly, as a Lincoln City season ticket holder, I would love it if Spurs did go down.
Tottenham away ole ole.
23 Mar 2026 13:07:01
Done here anyway, Angus, getting dragged out for a show in Edinburgh, mate.
23 Mar 2026 13:20:57
Angus, attitude is a big thing in a young footballer, as well as being talented, and I think Mikey Moore has both in bucket loads, mate ?
23 Mar 2026 13:25:45
100% John. ??
23 Mar 2026 13:51:56
Do a think we should spend say £20 m on a player NO but do a think we would lose money on Moore then a big NO as well, hopefully we can get him on loan for another season but a few stars would need to align for that to happen plus it would be late in window, a do believe our owners will push the boat out though on various positions in the squad, winning the league would be a great help for this to happen quicker.
23 Mar 2026 13:53:01
Aph, how can you? It doesn't matter what Moore wants, of course it matters. Yes, he's contracted to Spurs, but all Moore needs to do is reject any other deal, then either he stays at Spurs or Spurs cave in and send him back to Rangers. Not sure how you can say it's not Moore's choice lol when it's the player themself, agree or not.
23 Mar 2026 14:06:42
Davie, you forget the other alternative. They sit him in the reserves or the death squad (is that what Chelsea call it?). He would have to sit until the end of his contract to make it his decision.
So Spurs will make the final decision on where and when he goes. Moore may have a say, but it isn't his final decision. If he rejects any other deal he just sits and doesn't play as in what happens in 1st para.
23 Mar 2026 15:38:04
Spurs are not going to kill the boy's career because he won't go on loan to certain clubs, Angus. The main reason they wouldn't be let go to Rangers is not getting game time, or not playing well, or played in the position they want. He gets all them at Ibrox and euro football on top.
Not saying the boy will not go anywhere else, but Spurs know they have a potential star that could play for the club for next decade or make them a fortune. Whatever happens it will drag on all summer, possibly until last day of window, but if he goes out on loan the player has a huge say.
23 Mar 2026 15:39:04
I would want to make Moore ours but no chance at price. I would also bring him back on loan if that is not possible.
This is an easy fix, offer them Matondo, straight swap.
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All we need to do is dig him up on social media as amazing etc. Get typing.
Here to help with all football solutions and to resolve any debates from above. ?
23 Mar 2026 16:04:01
It's amazing, isn't it, how many fans said stop with the loans unless it involves option to buy. Now we want to take a loanee on for another year. We need our own players we can develop and sell.
23 Mar 2026 16:10:45
I just can't believe with your undoubted experience John, that you don't rate Mikey Moore as a very talented, young footballer. ?
23 Mar 2026 16:23:00
Coopers, see, I look at it differently. Is Mikey Moore going to kill his own career by insisting he gets another loan move to Rangers?
I think the main reason they wouldn't let him come back is that they might want him to experience a different experience at a different club in a different country.
Getting experience of a different footballing environment might be considered to be important for the club. Or they might just take him back and play him now he has shown he can handle the pressure.
23 Mar 2026 18:09:59
His value is not going to increase if Spurs get relegated.
24 Mar 2026 09:05:01
I wish the Imps all the very best, Lincolnblue, and hope you guys go up to the English Championship, which I'm sure you will now. ? But you ain't getting your set piece coach back, my friend. ?
24 Mar 2026 13:46:20
Would love for us to sign him, but I don't think we will pay £20 million for anyone. With that said, I think if Spurs sell him to someone for that price, then they would be getting a steal. 18 years old and has the stature, confidence and ability to go very far in the game.